Just have to know!

[Paulaparm]

So many campers parked in the overflow at the Fort. A few have been there almost 2 weeks. I'm sure some of you know the reason, and I'm curious

 

[bama_ed]

Uh .... the max Fort reservation is 30 days?

And under some old rules, they could be here for more than one 30-day reservation? A few folks spend (or used to) all winter at the Fort.

And a very few have been there for years (on back-to-back 30-day reservations).

Bama Ed

PS - I say "old" rules because more recent reservation language seems to say that WDW doesn't WANT back-to-back 30-day reservation guests because (IMO) Disney thinks they don't spend as much as the short-term guests.

PPS - are you still there enjoying your stay, @Paulaparm?

 

[tiggerdad]

I assume you mean they have been on a campsite 2 weeks, not in overflow for 2 weeks.

As Ed typed above, some folks stay whole month at a time. I'm not one of the filthy rich ones that can do that so I have no personal experience with it. Would be nice though.

 

[Paulaparm]

Uh .... the max Fort reservation is 30 days?

And under some old rules, they could be here for more than one 30-day reservation? A few folks spend (or used to) all winter at the Fort.

And a very few have been there for years (on back-to-back 30-day reservations).

Bama Ed

PS - I say "old" rules because more recent reservation language seems to say that WDW doesn't WANT back-to-back 30-day reservation guests because (IMO) Disney thinks they don't spend as much as the short-term guests.

PPS - are you still there enjoying your stay, @Paulaparm?

We just left this morning, but yes, we enjoyed every minute of our 13 days! We have begun to discuss another trip in 2 years. I proposed 3 weeks, with 10 days of park tickets. This time we were 13 nights and 10 days of tickets and we didn't have enough time to just enjoy the Fort!

 

[Paulaparm]

I assume you mean they have been on a campsite 2 weeks, not in overflow for 2 weeks.

As Ed typed above, some folks stay whole month at a time. I'm not one of the filthy rich ones that can do that so I have no personal experience with it. Would be nice though.

Nope, in the overflow parking area that long! Campers just parked there, no one around them. We figured perhaps someone pulls in early in the day, their spot isn't ready and they want to wait for it, so park and head out to a park, shopping, eat, etc. But that didn't seem to be the case.

 

[bama_ed]

If the overflow wasn't that busy, they used to let folks who do a camp/cruise combo (a not uncommon combo) to leave the camper at the overflow then take the bus to the Disney Cruise Line at Port Canaveral. You have to do the camp first. No "I promise I'm camping after the cruise-can I drop it here first?".

Another funny was that recently (I forget who told me this) when the Fort was last emptied during a hurricane and all guests had to leave and take their camper/rv/flat trailers with them, there were a few campers in the overflow lot that never got picked up and taken. So when the Fort allowed guests to return, Disney had those left-behind trailers hauled off somewhere. Some time later an ANGRY man went in the Fort lobby saying someone had taken his camper out of the overflow. Turns out he was a semi-local who tried to just leave the camper in overflow in-between his two Fort visits.

Free RV/Camper storage is a no-no.

Bama Ed

 

[bama_ed]

We just left this morning, but yes, we enjoyed every minute of our 13 days! We have begun to discuss another trip in 2 years. I proposed 3 weeks, with 10 days of park tickets. This time we were 13 nights and 10 days of tickets and we didn't have enough time to just enjoy the Fort!

I've considered the same but the tickets are purposely structured to really restrict this. A 10-day ticket has to be used within 14 days of the 1st day's use. So you can only have 4 Fort days in the 13 days after you use the ticket the 1st time. I'd like to have a day or two between park days. But given only 4 off days, that's hard to do very often. Even if you have a couple Fort days 1st before your 1st park day countdown starts, and a couple days at the end of just Fort days, it's still rest-run:ragged-rest.

I thought choosing the package option was a way around it since ticket usage windows are the length of the package. So I tried to build that and I could book 30 days in August at the Fort but if I wanted to add tickets (to make it a package), the longest stay I could have is 14 days (to match the ticket window). See below:



If I could book a month at the Fort and sprinkle 10-days of parks here and there in that window, I would love to. But Disney wants you on the treadmill of a higher daily spend average then you leave to be replaced by a guest with a similar higher daily spend average.

So your alternative is an Annual Pass (one expensive option only for non-FL guests) or buying multiple tickets in shorter lengths which raises the cost since multi-day savings don't become impactful until at least after the 4-day ticket. Example: instead of one 10-day ticket I could do two 5-day tickets (each ticket must be used within 8 days) but two 5's costs more than one 10.

If there's another way around this problem, I'm all ears, @Paulaparm.

Bama Ed

 

[Disneypeach]

Could it be that some of those campers are the rentals from a third party vendor?

 

[Teamubr]

Nope, in the overflow parking area that long! Campers just parked there, no one around them.

I noticed the same thing the 2 weeks I was at the Fort in January. We would look to make sure our car trailer was still there and noticed the same RVs in overflow for days. A 5th wheel even had the bedroom slide open for 2 days. The overflow was busy, but not completely full.

j

 

[morrik5]

I noticed the same thing the 2 weeks I was at the Fort in January. We would look to make sure our car trailer was still there and noticed the same RVs in overflow for days. A 5th wheel even had the bedroom slide open for 2 days. The overflow was busy, but not completely full.

j

Now that's abusing the privilege of the overflow - slide open is like shining a beacon on it saying let's investigate that no-one is inside camping.

 

[Paulaparm]

I've considered the same but the tickets are purposely structured to really restrict this. A 10-day ticket has to be used within 14 days of the 1st day's use. So you can only have 4 Fort days in the 13 days after you use the ticket the 1st time. I'd like to have a day or two between park days. But given only 4 off days, that's hard to do very often. Even if you have a couple Fort days 1st before your 1st park day countdown starts, and a couple days at the end of just Fort days, it's still rest-run:ragged-rest.

I thought choosing the package option was a way around it since ticket usage windows are the length of the package. So I tried to build that and I could book 30 days in August at the Fort but if I wanted to add tickets (to make it a package), the longest stay I could have is 14 days (to match the ticket window). See below:

View attachment 647154

If I could book a month at the Fort and sprinkle 10-days of parks here and there in that window, I would love to. But Disney wants you on the treadmill of a higher daily spend average then you leave to be replaced by a guest with a similar higher daily spend average.

So your alternative is an Annual Pass (one expensive option only for non-FL guests) or buying multiple tickets in shorter lengths which raises the cost since multi-day savings don't become impactful until at least the 4-day ticket. Example: instead of one 10-day ticket I could do two 5-day tickets (each ticket must be used within 8 days) but two 5's costs more than one 10.

If there's another way around this problem, I'm all ears, @Paulaparm.

Bama Ed

Well, darn!!! Not sure why I didn't think about that...hmmmm. perhaps Fort days at the beginning and end and park days (stretched out as much as possible) in the middle? Of course my idea was 1 or 2 park days, then a rest day

 

[Paulaparm]

I've considered the same but the tickets are purposely structured to really restrict this. A 10-day ticket has to be used within 14 days of the 1st day's use. So you can only have 4 Fort days in the 13 days after you use the ticket the 1st time. I'd like to have a day or two between park days. But given only 4 off days, that's hard to do very often. Even if you have a couple Fort days 1st before your 1st park day countdown starts, and a couple days at the end of just Fort days, it's still rest-run:ragged-rest.

I thought choosing the package option was a way around it since ticket usage windows are the length of the package. So I tried to build that and I could book 30 days in August at the Fort but if I wanted to add tickets (to make it a package), the longest stay I could have is 14 days (to match the ticket window). See below:

View attachment 647154

If I could book a month at the Fort and sprinkle 10-days of parks here and there in that window, I would love to. But Disney wants you on the treadmill of a higher daily spend average then you leave to be replaced by a guest with a similar higher daily spend average.

So your alternative is an Annual Pass (one expensive option only for non-FL guests) or buying multiple tickets in shorter lengths which raises the cost since multi-day savings don't become impactful until at least the 4-day ticket. Example: instead of one 10-day ticket I could do two 5-day tickets (each ticket must be used within 8 days) but two 5's costs more than one 10.

If there's another way around this problem, I'm all ears, @Paulaparm.

Bama Ed

Well, darn!!! Not sure why I didn't think about that...hmmmm.

 

[Part-Time Paradise]

I've considered the same but the tickets are purposely structured to really restrict this. A 10-day ticket has to be used within 14 days of the 1st day's use. So you can only have 4 Fort days in the 13 days after you use the ticket the 1st time. I'd like to have a day or two between park days. But given only 4 off days, that's hard to do very often. Even if you have a couple Fort days 1st before your 1st park day countdown starts, and a couple days at the end of just Fort days, it's still rest-run:ragged-rest.

I thought choosing the package option was a way around it since ticket usage windows are the length of the package. So I tried to build that and I could book 30 days in August at the Fort but if I wanted to add tickets (to make it a package), the longest stay I could have is 14 days (to match the ticket window). See below:

View attachment 647154

If I could book a month at the Fort and sprinkle 10-days of parks here and there in that window, I would love to. But Disney wants you on the treadmill of a higher daily spend average then you leave to be replaced by a guest with a similar higher daily spend average.

So your alternative is an Annual Pass (one expensive option only for non-FL guests) or buying multiple tickets in shorter lengths which raises the cost since multi-day savings don't become impactful until at least the 4-day ticket. Example: instead of one 10-day ticket I could do two 5-day tickets (each ticket must be used within 8 days) but two 5's costs more than one 10.

If there's another way around this problem, I'm all ears, @Paulaparm.

Bama Ed

That's infuriating.