Just back--you win some, you lose some

After our morning at Animal Kingdom, we opted to relax for the rest of the day and decided to go to Downtown Disney for dinner.

We chose WOLFGANG PUCK EXPRESS for dinner. We hadn't been there in years--I think it used to be in a different location, or at least they changed it enough so it seemed like it. Or maybe it's just my 40-year old memory.

Anyway, I read so many good things about this place that I was looking forward to it.

I had the mediterranean focaccia melt. I was thrown off because I was going to get the roasted vegetable pizza, but they said it is pre-mixed with eggplant. I am not a fan of eggplant. I like to say I am allergic to it, because it makes my mouth itch. My mother says I say that about things I don't like as an excuse. Maybe she's right. I did not, however, want eggplant on my pizza. So I made another choice. It was really good and I was happy with it, and the chips were warm and great. I also had a small ceasar, which was good. Sometimes I crave salads when we have been eating frequently in restaurants.

DH and DS17 each had the barbeque chicken quesadilla and they didn't talk at all while they were eating it, which means they really liked it. DS17 had a side of the four-cheese macaroni. He liked it--and he also couldn't keep his fingers out of my potato chips!

DS13 had buttered noodles. Every time we order buttered noodles for him, we have to make sure to tell them no herb garnish, no parm cheese. He won't eat it if it has been touched by either garnish, no matter how hard you try to camoflauge it. I know, I am not going to win any parenting awards over his eating habits. But he is nothing if not stubborn, and we have sought medical attention for it. As I said before, His Pickiness is generally healthy (though he did come home this time from WDW with pneumonia, but that's another story) and is a good student, athlete and kid, so I guess it is just a waiting game. Trust me, he has been exposed to many kinds of foods and he even ate well until he was three, so I don't know what happened to him. I pity the woman who marries him and has to deal with him ordering kid's chicken strips and white rice when he is 30--let alone cooking for him.

Sorry for the aside. He liked the buttered noodles and they arrived just that--plain. We rounded out the meal with the famous creme brulee. DS17 ate most of it and threatened to stab anyone with a spoon who came near it.

I didn't put up much of a fight, because I knew we were going to go to GOOFY'S CANDY KITCHEN. Neither DS was very interested in the process, which shocked me, because DS13 is all about chocolate and DS17 is a bottomless pit. Once they watched a couple people make their choices, they got a little more into it. DS13 had pretzels dipped in milk chocolate and then in order: oreos, M and M's and Reese's Pieces. He liked the ones with Reese's Pieces best. DH and I shared pretzels with milk chocolate, peanuts and a caramel drizzle and DS17 had a rice krispie treat with chocolate and Butterfingers. He didn't eat it right then because he was too busy texting.

That's another major aside: texting. He was having SERIOUS withdrawal from his girlfriend and spent the majority of the trip texting. We didn't allow him to text at the table during meals, so his phone would vibrate like crazy and then he would spend the next hour after the meal texting. I like his girlfriend, but all the texting drives me crazy! I told him he needs to live his life and have fun on his own vacation, not text it!

After all that, we went to a movie at Downtown Disney--I was mad at them because they didn't want to go back to a park--but I was overruled. Of course, even after the huge meal and double desserts, we had to get popcorn and Cokes to go with the movie, which turned out to not be a bad choice. It was nice to relax in the dark!

After the movie, I talked them into going to POP CENTURY to try the tye-dyed cheesecake. DH was not thrilled, but he will generally go along with my crazy ideas. I wanted to see POP, too, since we have never stayed there and I've read so much about it. We got one piece of cheesecake and a water, and took the requisite pics of the cake and the colored tongues before we called it a night. I won't say the cheesecake was great, but it was one of those things you have to do.

Next up:We finally make it the MK and split our dining choices. Thumbs up for Columbia Harbor House, egg rolls, and corn dogs; Thumbs down for The Wave.
 
I have to figure out how to 'quote' and then I can reply.

If you want to multi-quote several people, click on the box with the quote marks for each person you are responding to; when you get to the last person you want to quote, hit the box with the "quote" word in it.
 
Hi
Your reviews are great!! I don't eat any meat, so I'm happy to hear about your vegetarian choices. Thanks for sharing!!
 
I'm really enjoying your reviews! And sitting here laughing so hard :rotfl2: over your DS13's eating habits!!!
 

Really enjoying the reviews! I am surprised though you didn't do the dining plan with all the Disney centered dining. In hindsight do you think it would have saved you any money?
 
If you want to multi-quote several people, click on the box with the quote marks for each person you are responding to; when you get to the last person you want to quote, hit the box with the "quote" word in it.

Thanks! We'll see if this experiment works.

Hi
Your reviews are great!! I don't eat any meat, so I'm happy to hear about your vegetarian choices. Thanks for sharing!!

I always like reading about the non-meat choices, too!

I'm really enjoying your reviews! And sitting here laughing so hard :rotfl2: over your DS13's eating habits!!!

Thanks! I wish the parts about his eating habits weren't true. I would be shocked to read that about another kid, but unfortunately they really are true. Even the part about two rolls and a dill pickle on Easter. That is becoming a family legend.

Really enjoying the reviews! I am surprised though you didn't do the dining plan with all the Disney centered dining. In hindsight do you think it would have saved you any money?
I saved all the receipts and meant to try and add them all up after the trip to see how we came out. Haven't quite gotten around to that yet--best laid plans! We have never done the DDP and I did consider it this trip, but the fact that I don't eat meat and that DS13 is so darn picky but would be charged as an adult contributed to the decision not to do the plan. Where I do think it would have saved us money was for DS17. He could have eaten DS13's appetizers and probably mine as well and then ordered the biggest steak at every meal along with a milkshake. As it was, we were stopping to pick up snacks like corn dogs, etc., for him when he was hungry 20 minutes after we had a sit-down meal.
 
Okay. I think I have the quoting down now. Yay, me!

Can't wait to hear about MM, we're trying it for the first time in October!

I would definitely leave it on your list. I was skeptical about it because not only had I not liked it in the past, I had also read bad reviews. I'm glad we gave it a chance.

im glad you enjoyed the Penne at MM i loved that :thumbsup2

Yum! That's actually what I had for dinner tonight, but the sauce was out of a jar. Not as good, but as my neighbor says, 'it'll do."

MM sounds good. We did the same thing as you for our breakfasts last year - I would pick up pastries and fruit in the morning and the kids would devour it on my return to the room :)

The morning walks to OPR were one of my favorite parts of the day, even if it was to get nasty coffee. They would also 'devour' the cereal and pastries when I got back!

I really wanted to fit Tokyo Dining into our Oct trip but not looking likely. Just need to start planning the following year's trip!:thumbsup2

I really do recommend Tokyo Dining. It was probably THE highlight of our trip.

Yum! I am enjoying your report.:thumbsup2

Thanks. I have never written one before, though I write for a living. Go figure.

:goodvibesGreat reports we are going in
June and trying to decide where we want to eat. I'm thinking of changing a few now. I also have a very picky 11 year old sounds like they are on the same diet. I do appreciate that he still only eats from kids menu's it's way cheaper. I was wondering how long that would go on...I keep thinking his taste buds will expand...maybe not.:lmao:

I probably changed my mind 100 times about where we were going to eat. I didn't have trouble getting ADR's for most of the places. I'd say we kept about half of our ADR's and made the rest at the last minute, depending on what we felt like at the time. Sorry, I am not giving anybody who has a picky child much hope. I am in the same boat. My DS17 did used to be pretty picky, though never as bad as DS13 and he started to expand his eating when he was around 15. So I guess there is always hope!

Great reports, thanks for sharing:thumbsup2

Thanks. Vegas is my next food planning trip--we are combining a trip to visit family in CA this summer with a short trip to Las Vegas. Talk about food overload planning!
 
Thanks for sharing! I am working on our dining plans (yes, my sig is correct and I have over 6months lol) and your report is helpful. I think I will try to do one when I return so I can like you, return the favor. So, thanks!

Dawn
 
Really enjoying your report. Love your "Holy Grail of ADR's" line! :thumbsup2

I felt so smug when I got lunch at Le Cellier with no problem! Even though we have eaten there several times, I get all competitive when it comes to getting ADRs. Silly, I know! Especially when we didn't even end up eating there.

Pefect on the quoting. Enjoying your reviews immensely.

Glad you are enjoying the reviews--thanks for the technical assistance!

Good job kizzy!:thumbsup2

Thanks for reading!

Thanks for sharing! I am working on our dining plans (yes, my sig is correct and I have over 6months lol) and your report is helpful. I think I will try to do one when I return so I can like you, return the favor. So, thanks!

Dawn

I felt it was the least I could do after how much time I spent reading food reviews from December to March. I would wait anxiously for any new reviews to pop up. I will look forward to reading yours--six months will go by very quickly.
 
Thanks for all of the reviews! I know how it is with a picky eater, and hopefully he will grow out of it like most kids, but at least it isn't hot dogs and queso 24/7 like a friend of mine...
 
After three days at WDW, we finally made it to MK. As a quick, non-food aside, we didn't get park hoppers this time around. I didn't think we'd need them and it would make for a more relaxing trip. In reality, it stressed me out not to have hoppers. I focused more on getting back into the park earlier in the evenings and we couldn't hop to EPCOT to eat each night like we usually do. I felt like it limited our time in each park because we had only one park choice per day. Just my two cents on hoppers. The one good part of hoppers was that we would collect FPs and then use them that night.

I didn't make any ADRs for lunch at MK because we tend to prefer counter service there and unfortunately, both boys are not into character meals anymore. Teenage boys can be so not fun sometimes.

We were hungry by 11 a.m. and the HM was down due to 'spiritual interference,' so we decided to get lunch at COLUMBIA HARBOR HOUSE while we waited in hopes it would be back up and running again. Actually, I should say I ate at CHH. My favorite sandwich, aside from one at Captain Cook's at the Poly is the Lighthouse Sandwich. I love the hummus and broccoli slaw and the bread--perfect sandwich! At least some things at WDW never change. Along with the sandwich, I had vegetarian chili and a Coke. It wasn't busy at all and I got the food quickly. DH and both boys set off to find corndogs. They, for some reason, preferred to walk in the rain to find lunch instead of getting it at CHH. The official reason they offered was 'we don't feel like chicken or fish.' Whatever. I think the real reason was the boys wanted to walk past the shooting arcade. I think we could fund an entire future WDW trip with the money they have both spent at the arcade over the past ten years.

They came back with corndogs they got from a cart in Frontierland and pronounced them old, dry and stale. See what happens when they deviate from my plan for self-serving reasons? Of course, they were still hungry and not satisfied at that point, so we needed to find lunch #2.

You may notice that we have been eating multiple meals or meals and then snacks. That's due to a couple of reasons: first, I have to fit in all the foods at WDW I have been fixated on due to research and past preferences; DS13 never eats much in one sitting because he is so picky and DS17 is simply always hungry because he is a teenager. DH just likes to eat. He has been hitting the gym since we have been home in an effort to work off all those extra meals.

So for lunch #2, we first went to the eggroll cart at MK, which is my absolute favorite. I LOVE their vegetable egg rolls. DH had to get a pork and shrimp one and liked it.

Lunch #3 was a round of cappuccino floats from Sunshine Seasons. I really miss the old citrus swirl--I was one of the odd ducks who preferred them over the Dole Whips and floats. DS13 had a Coke float. I made them wait while they enjoyed their floats to get a pineapple float.

And to top it all off, we hit Casey's for not one, but two orders of mini corn dogs. Guess DH, DS13 and DS17 hadn't hit the corn dog quota for the day. They intended to share one order, but that degenerated into chaos when
DS17 attempted to hoard them and they sent me back to the counter to get two more orders. Talk about holy grail--apparently these are the holy grail of food items in the MK, at least according DS17.

Next up: The Wave does not get a stamp of approval
 
We eat like that at WDW too. You know ... fish & chips here ... churro there! That's one reason why I don't think we are getting the dining plan.

I'm enjoying your report so far. We have Yak & Yeti booked (DD wants to dim sum) and Tokyo dining for the sushi.

Maggie
 
thanks for taking the time to do this food report.

we never get tot ry anywhere wlse at AK cause hubby can't miss Flame tree. (It IS goo, and we esp. like all the di.f tables around the lake

can you explain dim sum to me? thanks!
 
Thanks for all of the reviews! I know how it is with a picky eater, and hopefully he will grow out of it like most kids, but at least it isn't hot dogs and queso 24/7 like a friend of mine...

Yeah, I guess it could always be worse! Fingers are definitely crossed that he will grow out of it someday.

We eat like that at WDW too. You know ... fish & chips here ... churro there! That's one reason why I don't think we are getting the dining plan.

I'm enjoying your report so far. We have Yak & Yeti booked (DD wants to dim sum) and Tokyo dining for the sushi.



Maggie

Yum--Churros. We had a couple of those in EPCOT. Thanks! Don't miss the dessert wontons at Yak and Yeti.

thanks for taking the time to do this food report.

we never get tot ry anywhere wlse at AK cause hubby can't miss Flame tree. (It IS goo, and we esp. like all the di.f tables around the lake

can you explain dim sum to me? thanks!

Some day, I want to get to Flame Tree. Dim sum is like appetizers or small bites. So basically, it is kind of a sampler served at Yak and Yeti in a steamer basket. There were pork dumplings, steamed buns (with pork), shrimp and a few other things. DH loves dim sum. At some places, you can order it piece by piece from a cart.
 
DS13 had buttered noodles. Every time we order buttered noodles for him, we have to make sure to tell them no herb garnish, no parm cheese. He won't eat it if it has been touched by either garnish, no matter how hard you try to camoflauge it. I know, I am not going to win any parenting awards over his eating habits. But he is nothing if not stubborn, and we have sought medical attention for it. As I said before, His Pickiness is generally healthy (though he did come home this time from WDW with pneumonia, but that's another story) and is a good student, athlete and kid, so I guess it is just a waiting game. Trust me, he has been exposed to many kinds of foods and he even ate well until he was three, so I don't know what happened to him. I pity the woman who marries him and has to deal with him ordering kid's chicken strips and white rice when he is 30--let alone cooking for him.

:rotfl: I think I have married the adult version of your DS13. He likes pasta and vegetables, bread and apples. Raw apples. No beef, no pork, no soup, no sauces (except on pasta), no peaches, only seedless oranges and grapes, no fruit in a chicken dish, no chili, dislikes all breakfast foods such as pancakes, omlettes, bacon, french toast. Yes, he is generally healthy and is a good husband, athlete and father, so I guess I'm keeping him, :rotfl2:
He does make dinner a challenge though!
And I never never go to a breakfast buffet - not paying adult price for a man who eats two pieces of toast and coffee for breakfast!!!
 
On to The Wave. I forget where we were planning to eat this night. I think it might have been Kona Cafe. That's our standby place--we know we like it and we can usually get in on short notice.

I had read the menus for The Wave and the reviews had been pretty positive. We are always up for trying new places, so I got an early ADR so we could eat and then head back to the MK. I hit up the ATM in the CR lobby before dinner, because I figured it would be expensive. I was not wrong about that! DS17 was already eyeing the steak on the menu! This is one place the DDP would have been nice.

The entrance is very cool, but IMHO, the inside of the restaurant, while nice, is nothing like the entrance and bar area make it seem like it will be. In fact, and keep in mind this is simply my humble opinion, it reminded me greatly of the way the restaurant at the Hyatt Regency in Chicago used to look. Not that there is anything wrong with the Hyatt restaurant, but The Wave just didn't seem that exciting or impressive to me. Kind of dark. Lots of kids--which is fine, because I have two of them myself and it is Disney after all, but it was very loud. Expectations were too high, maybe.

They had a little bit of a line at the check-in desk and said it would be a few minutes before we would be seated. It seemed slightly unorganized. We went into the bar area and started eyeing the drink menu. Before we could order, they came to take us to the table. I liked the bar area better than the restaurant. Must have been the blue light.

Not a big fan of our server. He was somewhat condescending and he would disappear for long periods of time. We ordered drinks--passion fruit mojito and organic beer flight--both good--especially the passion fruit mojito. Kids had Coke. The service was just not attentive or seamless like I would expect in a restaurant like this.

I had the butternut squash soup accompanied by a small grilled cheese. Good, but the soup was a touch sweet and the cinnamon was too strong. The grilled cheese was very dry. The soup was not as good at the butternut squash soup at Wolfgang Puck. I also had the seasonal salad, which I really liked. I have never had spaghetti squash (novel idea) in a salad, but it was good and worked well with the edamame and mozzarella. There just wasn't enough the salad, but that wasn't their fault, since it was an appetizer, not an entree. The dressing was great and spicy.

DS17 had the grilled beef tenderloin with celery root mashed potatoes. He liked his dinner quite well. He is all about beef.--and tenderloin, all the better. DH had the cinnamon rubbed pork tenderloin with roasted vegetables. He never orders pork in restaurants when he can order seafood, but something about the description appealed to him. He said it sounded better than it tasted, but that it was 'okay.'

DS13 had kid's cheese pizza and roasted potatoes on the side. Honestly, the roasted potatoes may have been the best part of the meal. Since DS13 won't eat any potato that is not a french fry or chip, the rest of shared (er, fought over) his potatoes. His meal came on a Mickey-shaped plate, which made DS17 tease him incessantly for the rest of the night. We told DS17 that you are never too old for a Mickey plate, most especially at WDW.

For dessert, which was in all honesty the reason I wanted to eat here: the pictures of three small delicious desserts were calling to me. In reality, I didn't like them. You could blame my choices or the fact that our server mixed it up and brought one wrong dessert out of three. But we all thought they had a trace of that cold 'refrigerator' taste. Where was the 'wow' factor I was expecting? We ordered two sets of three and I can't even remember which ones we ordered. Nothing stood out like I expected it to. On a bright note, coffee was great. Finally--real coffee!

I wrote in my trip journal that night 'okay food, but definitely not amazing. No wow factor at all. Not worth the price.' It was pretty pricey--which we expected. But I can think of many other places I would have rather spent money to eat a really good meal.

I know others have had much better experiences there. That's just ours. Now we know. There is no concrete reason that we didn't like The Wave. Rather, it was a combination of factors that just missed the mark with us.

Next up: Double victory with Kona Cafe and Tutto Italia
 
Thanks for giving us your reviews, looking forward to your double victory, I've got ADRs for both Kona and Tutto's. :woohoo:
 





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