Just a vent about people on the buses

[cassiez76]

before i had my son, we'd stand on the busses. when we were there last week, we had good karma and we'd be 1st or near the beginning of the line.

there were 2 times we were pretty far back and waited for the next bus. one older gentleman saw me get on the bus carrying thomas and said take my seat. i want to show you the courtesy that nobody showed my daughter and dgd this morning.

my mouth was on the floor with shock that somebody offered me a seat and that he was so vocal about why.

it was much needed too!

i could have really used it on the bus from the poly to dtd. i swear she just wanted to see how far the people standing could sway and fly when she'd hit a speed bump with many of us holding small children.

 

[DisDarling]

I sympathize with you.

We have been in that position where you have been waiting for the bus for 20 mins or more, your feet are tired, your kids are cranky, and you just want to sit and relax on the way to the parks. It is YOUR right to do so. It is NOT your responsibility to make sure everyone on that bus has a seat, or are secured, or have their belongings secure with them.

Common sense people, if you board a bus that is PACKED and you have kids, strollers, etc.. wait for the next one. You are now guaranteed a seat on that bus, but you will save yourself a ton of stress standing on a crowded bus. Im never sure WHY people would want to squeeze in when you could just wait. I get it, the wait is an unknown, but you will at least have the peace of mind of getting a seat.

I dont feel ANYONE should feel bad for not wanting to give up their seat, first come, first serve. Dont like it? Rent a car.

 

[jade1]

I hate the busses.

Agreed, cant beat BCV from EPCOT.

 

[PIRATEGIRL007]

I don't have kids and sorry to say I don't sympathize with people who do.
1) That is your choice to have kids.
2) I'm tired also.
3) It is your choice to stay until you are bone tired and have to deal with grumpy kids.
4) If I've waited for 30 minutes for a bus and you run up the last minute and think you're getting my seat, you've got another thing coming.
5) You can always sit on the curb and wait for the next bus.

I will offer my seat to elderly or people with mobility issues, but just because you have kids, no way.

It's like at my husbands work they want him to be on call Christmas because he doesn't have any kids, no way he told them. That's our choice so don't try to push the "I have kids" thing with me. That's right you do have kids deal with it, don't ask me to.

Before I get flamed here the people who don't have any kids get the short end of the stick all the time. I've got to leave work my kids sick, am I now suppose to do my job and yours? I can't stay late I have kids, I'm suppose to because I don't? You get tax breaks for having them, we don't. We choose not to so the money we put into taxes which goes to your kids schools, isn't important to us? We couldn't use that extra tax break that the people with kids get? Why shouldn't we get a tax break for not having them because we don't have kids that use the school system.

I have nothing against kids, I think they are most of the time cute, sweet, funny, adorable.... I'm just against the parents using them as an excuse and burdening me with their choices. It's not fair.

I say good for you.

No flames from me, I feel your pain, I have gotten the short end of the stick for years b/c I didn't have kids. I was the ONLY one in my department that didn't have them and once had a superior tell me my life wasn't important and I was going to be forced to work weekends so others could be with thier kids b/c that's more important (oh it didn't happen, I don't take stuff like that lightly). Even now that I have kids (steps, for about a year now) I flat out refuse to use the 'kid card' in any way, shape, form or fashion.

OP I'm glad you stood your ground, I would have tried to as well, and keeping quiet was best too, the ride could have only been more awkward if you would have said something back to her. Taking the high road always feels good and you deserve kudos for being the polite adult.

 

[KellyNY]

I totally understand you. BTW, this rude woman could offer her seat instead of holding stroller for them. I really cannot stand people who try to play a teacher of manners, mind your own business. I understand giving seat in a real life, when we all rushing to work, schools and mothers rush to drop kids to day care, there is no option to wait for another bus, subway. However at Disney you can always wait, so what it will take another 10 min, you will sit. I'm sorry but if parents do not care for their kids standing or holding newborns on a busy highways, why should I. Sorry but I think it is dangerous to stand on a bus, that is why we wait another bus if we see we will not get a seat, why cannot they

 

[fairestoneofall]

I have never expected anyone to give up their seat for me.

On our last trip, DS and I were standing. It was not a big deal, but I picked him up to hold him because he wasn't really steady. A man offered me his seat and I told him "no thank you." But then, the bus lurched and I almost fell. At that point, he stood up, insisted I take his seat and refused to sit down. I think he was more afraid I was going to fall into him. So, I sat down at that point. But I never expected anyone to give up their seat for me. Yes, it's nice when someone offers, but I never expect it.

And why did we get on a crowded bus? Because we had been standing at the bus stop for almost an hour. And for some reason, the POR buses that night were few and far between. We were afraid for how long we'd have to wait if we didn't get on that bus.

 

[famsen]

I am with you 100%!

We just returned on Saturday and Disney really needs to increase the frequency of their bus transportation. There are too many guests and too few buses. I can't believe Disney allows people to be packed in to the buses the way they do. It is sooo dangerous.
We too were in a situation many times where we waited our turn patiently for a bus for at least a half hour, then the driver begins squeezing everyone in and of course I feel guilty because a man holding a 14 week old came on late and can only stand holding the infant. Other people were shouting out to people sitting down to give the man with the baby a seat. I agreed, he should be standing with an infant.
I'm sorry, I gave up my seat many times for people but a time has to come where I also need to consider my own well-being. If I had stood on that bus after my shoes were soaking wet from a rain storm and my legs were exhausted, I would probably would have lost my balance on one of those sharp turns and fallen. I couldn't do it. I had to let someone else step up and offer a seat or maybe the family with the 14 week old could have waited for the next bus. We have had to wait for another bus whenever we have felt it was too crowded or we would be too uncomfortable.

 

[mariepapa]

I don't have kids and sorry to say I don't sympathize with people who do.
1) That is your choice to have kids.
2) I'm tired also.
3) It is your choice to stay until you are bone tired and have to deal with grumpy kids.
4) If I've waited for 30 minutes for a bus and you run up the last minute and think you're getting my seat, you've got another thing coming.
5) You can always sit on the curb and wait for the next bus.

I will offer my seat to elderly or people with mobility issues, but just because you have kids, no way.

It's like at my husbands work they want him to be on call Christmas because he doesn't have any kids, no way he told them. That's our choice so don't try to push the "I have kids" thing with me. That's right you do have kids deal with it, don't ask me to.

Before I get flamed here the people who don't have any kids get the short end of the stick all the time. I've got to leave work my kids sick, am I now suppose to do my job and yours? I can't stay late I have kids, I'm suppose to because I don't? You get tax breaks for having them, we don't. We choose not to so the money we put into taxes which goes to your kids schools, isn't important to us? We couldn't use that extra tax break that the people with kids get? Why shouldn't we get a tax break for not having them because we don't have kids that use the school system.

I have nothing against kids, I think they are most of the time cute, sweet, funny, adorable.... I'm just against the parents using them as an excuse and burdening me with their choices. It's not fair.

I say good for you.

I hope you never get pregnant by accident. I think you are quite prejudiced against kids, from the way you sound.

Back to the topic, the woman who bemoaned that the OP did not give up a seat should have offered her seat. She was being quite rude herself. And as others have said, vulgar for publicly denouncing the OP.

The buses are akin to public transportation and they will pack as many people on to them as possible. My children can handle standing up since they can hold on to the bars. It's not like they haven't been walking around all day anyway, what is a few minutes more? When you get back to the resort you still have to walk to your hotel room anyway so it is not like you are getting that much of a rest.

 

[mefordis]

Why didn't that woman give up HER seat? She was sitting, right?

It is my personal belief that people should give up their seats to 1) pregnant women 2) anyone holding a small child 3) Elderly 4) small child

But that is my personal belief. No one should attack anyone for not doing it, however. Because they don't know if that person has a disability.

Just wanted to share a situation we had on our trip at the end of September. Sorry for the length of this.
It was later in our week and we were headed back to the resort after a very long very hot day at Epcot. We got to the bus stop and no one was waiting which made us happy to know that we would most likely get seats on the bus this time. Well, we waited, and waited and waited almost 30 minutes for a bus. For about the first 10 or 15 minutes it was just us at the stop but then the line got longer and longer and longer. And we watched bus after bus stop at all the other stops until finally one came to us!
After standing there for 30+ minutes we were so glad to take our seats quickly on the bus. Taking care to stay away from the handicapped seats. My husband was across the aisle with the two girls sharing tow seats between the three of them and my mom sister and I sat together across from him.
So the people keep piling on the bus one after the other to a point beyond comfortable and finally two last people squeeze on there with a huge stroller and two kids in their arms one probably about 2 ½ and the other about 1.
Now before everyone thinks I’m the worst of the worst, I had given up my seat more times than I can count over the course of the week. I gave it up to the elderly both male and female, I gave it up to pregnant ladies, mothers carrying children or just standing with children next to them. I never once had anyone offer a seat to me or my child but I didn’t expect anyone to either and would never have complained.
That being said, a woman sitting across the aisle offered to hold the stroller for them. Which I would have gladly done as well but she beat me to it. Then she continued to very loudly tell them that maybe one of the “healthy adults” across the aisle would like to give them their seats. And normally I would although I would never let my mom. She has fibromyalgia and arthritis and needs a seat although she looks perfectly healthy. I also have arthritis and have joint issues but you wouldn’t be able to tell that by looking at me. I look like a normal 32 year old woman. Anyway, the people said they were fine and never even really looked at us although the woman continued on. And I continued to ignore her. And the man holding the younger child looked annoyed at her persistence.
Finally her husband who was standing in front of us also turned and asked me didn’t I want to give them my seat and I said no thank you that I had stood at the bus stop for 30 minutes waiting for this bus. and I preferred to sit. Had I been at the end of the line and needed a seat seeing how full the bus was, I would have waited for the next one. I also told him that I had given up my seat many times this week to many different people but that today I was exhausted and needed to sit. The woman continued on saying “how rude some people are”.
And one point the woman standing with the 2 ½ year old swayed a little and my sister got up and gave her the seat because she was afraid the woman would fall with the child. The man holding the younger child continued to hold her even when the woman offered to hold both on her lap. I think they should have waited for the next bus. If you don’t feel comfortable standing and holding your child, I think maybe you should consider waiting for a less full bus. I’m all for giving my seat to people that need it, but I think sometimes people need to be courteous to others. Granted these people never once asked for our seats or even looked at us. It was these other people getting involved who were the real problem.
I don’t expect men to give up their seats to women or children on the buses when they are full. And as we all know, most of them don’t. It’s really nice when they do, but we’re all tired together in my opinion and for the most part first come first serve.
I just couldn’t believe this woman across from us. And to think my husband had given up his seat to her earlier that week. I thought about reminding her of this, but decided to bite my tongue and try to ignore her and her nosy husband.

I'm sure I will get flamed for this....

 

[ncmickeyluvr]

While I am not an advocate of giving up my seat to someone who ran onto the bus at the last minute, I do wish that people would take up as few seats as possible. If anyone is standing we always sit our children and belongings on our lap and take up 2 seats for the 4 of us....and my 9 yr old weighs 75 lbs!! I usually choose to wait for the next bus if it's crowded....sweaty tired people are not my cup of tea...but there have been times when I've stood on a lurching bus while someone's backpack enjoyed a seat!!

 

[kmk1180]

I don't have kids and sorry to say I don't sympathize with people who do.
1) That is your choice to have kids.
2) I'm tired also.
3) It is your choice to stay until you are bone tired and have to deal with grumpy kids.
4) If I've waited for 30 minutes for a bus and you run up the last minute and think you're getting my seat, you've got another thing coming.
5) You can always sit on the curb and wait for the next bus.

I will offer my seat to elderly or people with mobility issues, but just because you have kids, no way.

It's like at my husbands work they want him to be on call Christmas because he doesn't have any kids, no way he told them. That's our choice so don't try to push the "I have kids" thing with me. That's right you do have kids deal with it, don't ask me to.

Before I get flamed here the people who don't have any kids get the short end of the stick all the time. I've got to leave work my kids sick, am I now suppose to do my job and yours? I can't stay late I have kids, I'm suppose to because I don't? You get tax breaks for having them, we don't. We choose not to so the money we put into taxes which goes to your kids schools, isn't important to us? We couldn't use that extra tax break that the people with kids get? Why shouldn't we get a tax break for not having them because we don't have kids that use the school system.

I have nothing against kids, I think they are most of the time cute, sweet, funny, adorable.... I'm just against the parents using them as an excuse and burdening me with their choices. It's not fair.

I say good for you.

All I can say is....wow, where did that come from?

To OP,
I totally understand your vent. That woman was rude.
Glad to see your not getting flamed here. Personally I always feel it's worth paying for a rental car. Just to avoid that and that 30 minute wait.

 

[Rainkiss]

That was the one thing I had problems in Disney over and over again was parents that had their kids with them thought they deserve everything because of the kids. We waited at least 30 min to have a good spot in the parade and someone will come and stand right in front of us and when I say I am sorry I been waiting so I can have this spot they will say but the kids won't be able to see like it was my problem I am short and that is why I made sure I had a good spot getting there early. I will always say I am sorry next time come earlier. Not only was this in the parades but the lines for the monorail and even in some of the rides. I never let one go because I couldn't believe how rude this people were also what are they teaching to their kids.

Gah. "Well, then, the kids are more than welcome to sit on the curb, here, and you can stand just behind us so you can see them, between us. Me, I don't think it's a great idea to use Disney as an excuse to be rude."

I gave up my seat more than once... and had a seat given to me once or twice. And I did NOT appreciate the nasty looks my husband (who was recovering from an Achilles tendon surgery, full tear, they had to splice in a chunk taken from the bottom of his foot) got when he kept his seat. You never know who's hurt.

 

[lynnebla]

Yes, it's nice to give up a seat for anyone who seems to need it more, but it's definitely not a requirement. And, since no one can tell by looking at someone else exactly who needs it more, it's only the business of the person making the choice. Though this has somehow turned into childless against those with children, that's not actually the issue here. The people standing seemed fine with it. It's the rude woman trying to make choices for others who was the problem. If I get on a crammed bus w/ all my kids because it seems easier to me than the alternative of waiting for another bus, I would certainly accept a seat if someone offered, but not expect to have one. It was my choice to get on at that time.

This is the main reason I make sure I have a car in Disney. When it was just me & hubby, the buses were great. But now, with kids and their related stuff, the buses are just too much of a hassle. I've made the choice to always drive to parks so that when everyone is exhausted, I can put the kids in their seats & we can all sit and rest back to the hotel. Well worth giving up the convenience of having someone else drive us around the World!

 

[bgohre]

I don't have kids and sorry to say I don't sympathize with people who do.
1) That is your choice to have kids.
2) I'm tired also.
3) It is your choice to stay until you are bone tired and have to deal with grumpy kids.
4) If I've waited for 30 minutes for a bus and you run up the last minute and think you're getting my seat, you've got another thing coming.
5) You can always sit on the curb and wait for the next bus.

I will offer my seat to elderly or people with mobility issues, but just because you have kids, no way.

It's like at my husbands work they want him to be on call Christmas because he doesn't have any kids, no way he told them. That's our choice so don't try to push the "I have kids" thing with me. That's right you do have kids deal with it, don't ask me to.

Before I get flamed here the people who don't have any kids get the short end of the stick all the time. I've got to leave work my kids sick, am I now suppose to do my job and yours? I can't stay late I have kids, I'm suppose to because I don't? You get tax breaks for having them, we don't. We choose not to so the money we put into taxes which goes to your kids schools, isn't important to us? We couldn't use that extra tax break that the people with kids get? Why shouldn't we get a tax break for not having them because we don't have kids that use the school system.

I have nothing against kids, I think they are most of the time cute, sweet, funny, adorable.... I'm just against the parents using them as an excuse and burdening me with their choices. It's not fair.

Eeyore?

 

[kmk1180]

Eeyore?

 

[claryche]

No flames here. The busy body woman should have shut up. And the couple with the kids should have waited if they didn't want to hold the kids while standing. We did that once and actually the bus driver was really rude to us, because he was like well the trip isn't that long (and it was only 5-10 min) and he said we would be waiting longer than that for another bus. This was at closing of a park, so we knew another one would be along soon. But standing in line while your 18 month old is in the stroller as opposed to standing holding that 18 month old on a moving bus, is a no brainer to me. So of course we ignored the rude bus driver and stayed in line and waited.

Now I will admit, that last time we were at Disney World, I was kinda shocked that no one offered a seat to me, because my almost 3 year old had to stand on the bus. And it was a case where I wasn't expecting that we would have to stand, because it didn't look that full, but it was a case where there were just a few too many, it wasn't packed. I think someone did offer my son a seat with their child, but he wouldn't sit there. So I was a little worried on the trip, but he did great. But since it wasn't that packed, I kinda thought someone would give up a seat, but I didn't demand it and I sure didn't give anyone dirty looks or anything like that. I mean it would have been nice to have a seat, but we survived and all turned out fine.

 

[khertz]

I think your actions and responses were totally appropriate in that situation. And the lady who was griping about you not giving up your seat was sitting as well?!?! That's just ridiculous, and I think I would have had to make a comment on that being she was so vocal about OTHER people not giving up their seats.

 

[Anglefan]

I'm a male in my mid 20s and I'll give up my seat to pretty much anybody. Couldn't care less if I'm standing. That being said, I would have put the woman in her place. Never been one to bite my tongue when people don't know how to behave.

 

[mefordis]

It doesn't sound like those people were expecting a seat. The people sitting across from them were asking them to give up the seats, not the family.

If someone doesn't want to give up their seat, that is their decision. If a family wants to ride standing that is their decision as well.

I sympathize with you.

We have been in that position where you have been waiting for the bus for 20 mins or more, your feet are tired, your kids are cranky, and you just want to sit and relax on the way to the parks. It is YOUR right to do so. It is NOT your responsibility to make sure everyone on that bus has a seat, or are secured, or have their belongings secure with them.

Common sense people, if you board a bus that is PACKED and you have kids, strollers, etc.. wait for the next one. You are now guaranteed a seat on that bus, but you will save yourself a ton of stress standing on a crowded bus. Im never sure WHY people would want to squeeze in when you could just wait. I get it, the wait is an unknown, but you will at least have the peace of mind of getting a seat.

I dont feel ANYONE should feel bad for not wanting to give up their seat, first come, first serve. Dont like it? Rent a car.

 

[nicki.momof3]

Sorry double post