Jon & Kate plus 8 budget?

[mousetravel]

As far as the kid's clothes (and her spazing out about them getting dirty), is no more than her wanting to make sure she gets top dollar at the consignment shop. Since they have been been so blessed with this show that gives them the opportunity to receive all these freebies, she should donate those clothes instead of making $$ off of them.

 

[CherylA]

Nobody else thinks it would be horrible to have to clean up 8 little children? I think that would so not be fun, and she's so busy already. Plus she'd have to stain stick all those clothes if they got dirty. I know she has help but that woman's workload in incredible. I haven't ever seen an episode where she is relaxing. She is working all the time. I really admire what she does even though she may be unpleasant sometimes. She seems better if she has planned for the mess, like put the kids in play clothes or has smocks on them etc. Why are moms so tough on other moms anyway? Does it make us feel better about ourselves if we can point out what another mom is doing wrong?

 

[dis-happy]

What's wrong with being clean, neat and organized? Growing up our house was clean and neat, my mom taught us how to clean thoroughly, but she certainly wasn't OCD or made our lives miserable. The Duggar house is neat and clean too, but they have older kids to help (and then get criticized because their children do the laundry). With a large family it's either orderly or it's a disaster, and it just takes a few hours for things to fall apart; I have enough trouble keeping our home with 4 children somewhat in order. Watching how people live on Clean House is more of a concern to me re. the well-being of the children.

As far as the hissy fits at WDW, I'll admit that I can relate. Heat, lack of sleep, sensory overload....my dh and I have had our moments and at least one teen has been threatened to be sent back to the room for the day. Glad no one was there to film the exchange.....

 

[madge]

Nobody else thinks it would be horrible to have to clean up 8 little children? I think that would so not be fun, and she's so busy already. Plus she'd have to stain stick all those clothes if they got dirty. I know she has help but that woman's workload in incredible. I haven't ever seen an episode where she is relaxing. She is working all the time. I really admire what she does even though she may be unpleasant sometimes. She seems better if she has planned for the mess, like put the kids in play clothes or has smocks on them etc. Why are moms so tough on other moms anyway? Does it make us feel better about ourselves if we can point out what another mom is doing wrong?

really? Kate working? I haven't seen Kate working since season 1 or 2... working, as in mopping, scrubbing, etc.

Cleaning up after 8 little children may be horrible, but that's her (and Jon's) responsibility as their parent.

Good question about moms, though .. it seems to be an never-ending battle that really makes no sense.

 

[Kycha]

Why are moms so tough on other moms anyway? Does it make us feel better about ourselves if we can point out what another mom is doing wrong?

I've often wondered that in relation to well known moms like Kate Gosselin or Michelle Duggar.

 

[madge]

I've often wondered that in relation to well known moms like Kate Gosselin or Michelle Duggar.

I think it's easy to take shots at people in the public eye. Especially on message boards full of strangers.

But, you know.. they made the choice to put their lives out there for the world to see and are being paid quite well for it.

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

Mom's are tough on other moms!! I never realized it until I became part of the club. Of course, I was thrown into it, so I didn't have time to get my armor. I think it's a confidence issue. As we know, those adorable little squirts don't come with manuals, and we just go into it with what we have and hope we're doing the right thing. That said, I don't think there's one "right" way to parent (I do think there is a wrong way, though, if that makes sense). Every family does what works for them. I try really hard not to judge other moms. It's excruciating sometimes, but I try...

 

[TroyE]

Like everything else in life, from the outside looking in you cannot imagine how you would do it, but when you are in it, you just make it happen.

Sure it is tough, but you are not given more then you can handle.

Nobody else thinks it would be horrible to have to clean up 8 little children?

 

[Ms_Butterfly]

IF (and I, of course, have no way of knowing what she has or doesn't have) she is OCD she should be working with a dr to see IF she can use the tools my co-worker used to live a semi-normal life and to allow her kids to be normal kids.

The other IF being if she actually desires to get better. Nobody can force her to get help (even if it is just a personality issue and not OCD). And since her issue is about cleanliness, that's one that can be harder for somebody to want to get help for (as opposed to something like obsessive thoughts or other meaningless, very interruptive things) because most ppl in the western world do enjoy a certain level of cleanliness. There's no problem with kids being clean, it is her anxiety and reaction that sometimes might be out of place for normies.

(OCD is an anxiety disorder.)

 

[Ms_Butterfly]

Glad to know that we are all doctors, bx specialists, mortgage brokers and such...

That is why we are saying IF she has OCD. Some of us here have personal experiences with OCD (some have it, some have had family members with it, some have had co-workers/friends with it) and so can see things from our experiences. Even a doctor on this board could not give a diagnosis to Kate because there is too little information to go on (a highly-edited show, no psychological testing/evaluating, not knowing her in person, etc.). Just in the same way nobody on this board can "diagnose" her as high-maintenance, a bad influence on her children, etc. because none of us have all the facts.

 

[Ms_Butterfly]

Sorry--bx specialist is a coding that I use at work---it is a behavior specialist.

And here I was thinking you knew Kate was a BMX specialist!

 

[Ms_Butterfly]

As far as the kid's clothes (and her spazing out about them getting dirty), is no more than her wanting to make sure she gets top dollar at the consignment shop. Since they have been been so blessed with this show that gives them the opportunity to receive all these freebies, she should donate those clothes instead of making $$ off of them.

Statements like that are disgusting. You don't know what happens to those clothes after the kids outgrow them. Maybe she donates them to her church's clothes closet, maybe she gives them to others at her church, maybe she sells them in a church yard sale that benefits the church or one of their charities, maybe she gives them to Goodwill, maybe she sells them, maybe she throws them out, maybe she saves them for the memories or in case they do adopt a child like some ppl have said they heard them thinking of doing, etc.

She has the right to do whatever she wants with those clothes just like you have the right to do whatever you want with the things you own.

She also has the right to keep her children clean. Many mothers want clean kids - not every mother wants their kid running around with stains down their shirt, dried food on their face, and sticky/dirty hands! My hat is off to Kate for actually being able to keep that many kids clean!

 

[Ms_Butterfly]

Anyway, I wonder if Kate hasn't sought therapy.

If she has, good for her. It is a private matter either way, so I can see why they wouldn't talk about it if she has. I know you were in no way asking to know or thinking we should know, so I'm just stating the following for a general tidbit: nobody's, whether they are famous or not, personal medical information/history is any of our business. If they choose to share it, they generally have a good reason, such as bringing awareness to the issue (like cancer or drug/alcohol addiction).

Or, in one case, totally grossing their audience out showing a hair transplant operation in exchange for "free advertising". (Did that episode creep anybody else out?!?! Why did they have to show his head?! Did they think that would really sell ppl on the idea, "Hey, I should get a hair transplant, too!" That would sooooo make me NOT want to do it!)

The episode where she took the girls to the pottery place comes to mind.

Don't forget about the body paint/body chocolate fun at the vacation house!

 

[thistle922]

She also has the right to keep her children clean. Many mothers want clean kids - not every mother wants their kid running around with stains down their shirt, dried food on their face, and sticky/dirty hands! My hat is off to Kate for actually being able to keep that many kids clean!

But at what cost? I can recall several occasions, shown onscreen, where her quest for cleanliness has directly interfered with her children enjoying an activity. (Crayola episode, anyone?)

I'm all for keeping my kid's clothing stain free, but you know what? A kid will remember being denied a fun time in the name of laundry management much more than they will remember *gasp* wearing a shirt with a crayon or marker line on it. Sheesh.

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

If she has, good for her. It is a private matter either way, so I can see why they wouldn't talk about it if she has. I know you were in no way asking to know or thinking we should know, so I'm just stating the following for a general tidbit: nobody's, whether they are famous or not, personal medical information/history is any of our business. If they choose to share it, they generally have a good reason, such as bringing awareness to the issue (like cancer or drug/alcohol addiction).

Or, in one case, totally grossing their audience out showing a hair transplant operation in exchange for "free advertising". (Did that episode creep anybody else out?!?! Why did they have to show his head?! Did they think that would really sell ppl on the idea, "Hey, I should get a hair transplant, too!" That would sooooo make me NOT want to do it!)



Don't forget about the body paint/body chocolate fun at the vacation house!

Some people just think they know everything about this family from the hours they've seen on tv. They still have personal, private lives that viewers (and I'd imagine no one outside of their home) knows anything about and has no right to know anything about.

I agree about the surgeries.

 

[momx2]

As far as the kid's clothes (and her spazing out about them getting dirty), is no more than her wanting to make sure she gets top dollar at the consignment shop. Since they have been been so blessed with this show that gives them the opportunity to receive all these freebies, she should donate those clothes instead of making $$ off of them.

ITA! I said this very thing to my husband last night when he remarked on her spazing again with the clothes and he remembered the WDW ice cream scene and commented on it again. BTW, I think this may have been the only 2x he has watched it and can't believe how Kate acts.

 

[BusyMom2Three]

Yeah she stopped all contact with her parents after they took care of the twins while she was in the hospital all that time and her parents and their church did a huge fundraiser thing and Kate had a fit that they had gotten them all used things. She refused all those gifts and only wanted new things.
Kate really has some serious entitlement issues.

I don't have a link, but I remember reading some explanations about their parents, some of which came out of interviews on the show. I know Jon's dad is deceased and they were very close and Kate also said he was very supportive. Not sure about his mom. I have read that Kate's family lives close by but are religious zealots and were very harsh with discipline when Kate was younger. I also read that they disapproved of Kate having fertility treatment. The article pretty much said they were hicks. I will try to find it on google. Kate has also mentioned on the show when discussing discipline (putting kids in the corner for timeout) that her parents were very harsh in their discipline style and that she didn't want that for her kids. Not that there aren't other issues--just thought I'd chime in on this one.

ETA: I cant find that link, although I didn't look very hard! I found a lot more speculation--that Kate's parents are strict Mennonite or PA Dutch & disapproved of her marrying a Korean & someone of a diff religion and having IVF. But like all the rest, it's just speculation and we probably won't know what the facts are.

 

[luvsJack]

But at what cost? I can recall several occasions, shown onscreen, where her quest for cleanliness has directly interfered with her children enjoying an activity. (Crayola episode, anyone?)

I'm all for keeping my kid's clothing stain free, but you know what? A kid will remember being denied a fun time in the name of laundry management much more than they will remember *gasp* wearing a shirt with a crayon or marker line on it. Sheesh.

I agree. It does seem sad for the kids if they can't have the fun other kids have with "getting dirty" activities. I have seen kids that have ended up being anxious and worried all the time, even not playing like a normal kid all because of a parent's hang ups; it just seems sad.

I have wondered if perhaps Kate is a bit more relaxed when the cameras are not around. Maybe the confusion of all the production people and cameras and such makes her feels this need for everything to be neat and tidy at all costs.

 

[TroyE]

I can't believe how she acts either. Way more then I would put up with.

ITA! I said this very thing to my husband last night when he remarked on her spazing again with the clothes and he remembered the WDW ice cream scene and commented on it again. BTW, I think this may have been the only 2x he has watched it and can't believe how Kate acts.

 

[pweyl36]

Statements like that are disgusting. You don't know what happens to those clothes after the kids outgrow them. Maybe she donates them to her church's clothes closet, maybe she gives them to others at her church, maybe she sells them in a church yard sale that benefits the church or one of their charities, maybe she gives them to Goodwill, maybe she sells them, maybe she throws them out, maybe she saves them for the memories or in case they do adopt a child like some ppl have said they heard them thinking of doing, etc.

She has the right to do whatever she wants with those clothes just like you have the right to do whatever you want with the things you own.

She also has the right to keep her children clean. Many mothers want clean kids - not every mother wants their kid running around with stains down their shirt, dried food on their face, and sticky/dirty hands! My hat is off to Kate for actually being able to keep that many kids clean!

Hate to tell,but she does say that she has yard sales and gives the items to consignment shops. Trust me she would love to be saint if she gave to charity, but kate is all about kate. And as for help look at the dilleys and the mccoughs, they had help in the begining,but now both parents work full time jobs to keep there families going.