Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 8

[walden]

Why was the famous lawyer, Gloria Allred at the hearing? I saw her sitting behind Kate's brother.

She gave testimony -- expert testimony -- at the hearing. I presume she was invited by the State Senator who convened the hearing

 

[WaltD4Me]

John's new lawyer was just on Jane Velez Mitchell on CNN. He was either quoting Jon or he is another idiot lawyer.

Jane was asking him why shouldn't Kate be out earning money, especially since Jon doesn't have a job and the lawyer said there are other ways for her to earn money (not his business IMHO) and that she is also doing interviews and you know she is getting paid for those and the children don't need that much money, they could live with less money.

I just thought it was weird how he was talking, if it were Jon talking I would say he sounded jealous. But for the lawyer to talk like he was, it was just odd.

 

[WaltD4Me]

Why was the famous lawyer, Gloria Allred at the hearing? I saw her sitting behind Kate's brother.

Because she will do anything to get her mug on TV. Because she is an "train wreck chaser" attorney.

 

[madge]

in the interviews, both filmed and published and in the blog that Jodi's sister--who could do nothing about anything!!!!--nothing was ever mentioned that they tried ot handle anything privately.

They are full of their ego and nothing more.

they ALL are. Jon, Kate, Kevin, Jodi, Jodi's sister ... the ones who haven't spoken are the only ones with any real sense.

 

[madge]

LA Times blog ... this blogger gets it! (IMO)

 

[OhMari]

I saw Kate on Joyce Bahr's show and Kate getting interviewed by Billy on Access Hollywood. Both of them, were really kind to Kate. Especially Joyce. The interview with Joyce was done by satellite. Kate wasn't in her studio. She did ask Kate if tv doesn't work out, what would she do. Kate told her, she would go back to nursing, and the only way she could really support the kids would be to do 12 hour shifts, 6 days a week. Then she said, most of her pay would then be taken, to pay the babysitters for 8 kids. Kate said, this is why she is trying to stay in the tv industry, because it pays a lot more, than nursing right now.

So, at least she was honest with that answer. She also said, she would be gone those many hours working as a nurse, and right now, she is gone with DWTS, but she says, it is her job right now and it pays better and she can afford the babysitters. I was surprised that Joyce didn't say anything about Jon staying with the kids. Joyce did ask her about the custody agreement, and Kate said, in the beginning the arrangement was fine, but now it is going to get ugly, and she was saddened by that.

 

[kidshop]

I saw Kate on Joyce Bahr's show and Kate getting interviewed by Billy on Access Hollywood. Both of them, were really kind to Kate. Especially Joyce. The interview with Joyce was done by satellite. Kate wasn't in her studio. She did ask Kate if tv doesn't work out, what would she do. Kate told her, she would go back to nursing, and the only way she could really support the kids would be to do 12 hour shifts, 6 days a week. Then she said, most of her pay would then be taken, to pay the babysitters for 8 kids. Kate said, this is why she is trying to stay in the tv industry, because it pays a lot more, than nursing right now.

So, at least she was honest with that answer. She also said, she would be gone those many hours working as a nurse, and right now, she is gone with DWTS, but she says, it is her job right now and it pays better and she can afford the babysitters. I was surprised that Joyce didn't say anything about Jon staying with the kids. Joyce did ask her about the custody agreement, and Kate said, in the beginning the arrangement was fine, but now it is going to get ugly, and she was saddened by that.

Uhhh, no! No nurse would ever work six 12 hour days a week. That would be an 'untruth'. Did they mention the 20,000 a month she gets from Jon?

I am reading Kate told a few other lies during this interview. Did you catch any? She claimed Jodi and Kevin haven't seen the kids in 2 years and we have pictures of a reunion with Jon from oct 09, and that they sold stories to the tabloids while they (jodi and kevin) were still on the show. I didn't see the interview, I am reading comments about it, so if anyone here saw let us know.

 

[Dee77]

The other day on the Today show, Kate said "in her heart she's at home in her kitchen baking cookies" this is her response to being asked about being away from her kids while doing DWTS.

On ET last night Mary Hart (right after showing the clip of her and Tony discussing the custody issues) confirmed that the kids watch her on DWTS and asked her if they know about the custody problems and she answered "I shelter them from all of that"

On Joy Behar she mentioned that Kevin and Jodi made a lot of money off of them with their concerns and allegations but yet it appears that Jon/Kate and the network were in the wrong with all the taping, finances etc...

I think she must be really jet lagged or something because these statements didn't make any sense to me.

 

[DMRick]

Uhhh, no! No nurse would ever work six 12 hour days a week. That would be an 'untruth'. Did they mention the 20,000 a month she gets from Jon?

She said, to support her family she would have to work '
only way she could really support the kids would be to do 12 hour shifts, 6 days a week"
I think she is right..to bring in enough money for her brood, she would have to work long hours. Since that would be almost impossible, then she's prob better off doing the TV work while she can.
My daughter is a nurse earning great money, but it wouldn't go far with 9 people, and a sitter to pay for. There are nurses who grab all the overtime they can, because they do need the money.
We all know that Kate is 'performing' for Kate. But I do believe that doing this now and holding onto her money (we really seldom see anything that says Kate is squandering the money) is smart. Who knows when her 15 minutes are up, and she will have to downsize and go back to nursing. I think the kids will see her a lot less when that happens. I also have doubts that once Jon's money put aside runs out, that she will see much in the way of support. I hope she is saving all she can for now.

 

[kidshop]

She said, to support her family she would have to work '
only way she could really support the kids would be to do 12 hour shifts, 6 days a week"
I think she is right..to bring in enough money for her brood, she would have to work long hours. Since that would be almost impossible, then she's prob better off doing the TV work while she can.
My daughter is a nurse earning great money, but it wouldn't go far with 9 people, and a sitter to pay for. There are nurses who grab all the overtime they can, because they do need the money.
We all know that Kate is 'performing' for Kate. But I do believe that doing this now and holding onto her money (we really seldom see anything that says Kate is squandering the money) is smart. Who knows when her 15 minutes are up, and she will have to downsize and go back to nursing. I think the kids will see her a lot less when that happens. I also have doubts that once Jon's money put aside runs out, that she will see much in the way of support. I hope she is saving all she can for now.

Ok, what about the 20,000 a month from Jon? I know no one likes to mention that b/c it takes away from 'poor me' and makes Jon look better. And if he wasn't paying it, she would be on the Today show crying about it.

I don't think it's possible for the kids to see her less.

 

[DMRick]

The other day on the Today show, Kate said "in her heart she's at home in her kitchen baking cookies" this is her response to being asked about being away from her kids while doing DWTS.

And maybe in her heart she is home baking cookies.

On ET last night Mary Hart (right after showing the clip of her and Tony discussing the custody issues) confirmed that the kids watch her on DWTS and asked her if they know about the custody problems and she answered "I shelter them from all of that"

They know now, unless she erased the part of the tape where she mentioned it, before they watched the show. And even if she hasn't told them, I'd guess they know. Kate sometimes lives in a dream world, where she thinks her kids are well protected from the media.

On Joy Behar she mentioned that Kevin and Jodi made a lot of money off of them with their concerns and allegations but yet it appears that Jon/Kate and the network were in the wrong with all the taping, finances etc...

It's been reported that Kevin and Jodi recieved $30,000 for their tell all. They did not deny it in one of the interviews.
As for being in the wrong with all the tapping, they were not really charged with anything. The state said they should have had permits, and TLC denies it. Once the state decided to not charge them/fine them, in my mind, the state lost credibility. Don't tell me someone did something wrong, and then not make them own up to it. I think the state couldn't prove it and so they just told them to get permits next time and put money in the trust fund.

 

[madge]

She said, to support her family she would have to work '
only way she could really support the kids would be to do 12 hour shifts, 6 days a week"
I think she is right..to bring in enough money for her brood, she would have to work long hours. Since that would be almost impossible, then she's prob better off doing the TV work while she can.
My daughter is a nurse earning great money, but it wouldn't go far with 9 people, and a sitter to pay for. There are nurses who grab all the overtime they can, because they do need the money.
We all know that Kate is 'performing' for Kate. But I do believe that doing this now and holding onto her money (we really seldom see anything that says Kate is squandering the money) is smart. Who knows when her 15 minutes are up, and she will have to downsize and go back to nursing. I think the kids will see her a lot less when that happens. I also have doubts that once Jon's money put aside runs out, that she will see much in the way of support. I hope she is saving all she can for now.

1. Kate is not the sole breadwinner. She gets $240,000/year in child support.
I get that she doesn't want to go back to nursing .. and that she enjoys what she's doing. IMO, Kate needs to leave it at that. Kate is not on television because she HAS to be. She WANTS to be. And really, how Kate Gosselin spends her time (we're on day 12 away from the kids, I think ...) is none of my business, but don't tell me that you have to slave away on DWTS to provide for your family like it's a chore. Please.

2. squandering? like Jon did? no. But, Kate has done a fair share of spending on herself.

3. If Jon & Kate weren't putting away money in a trust for the children until November, were they saving for themselves? Kate claimed money was set aside and we learned yesterday that it hadn't been .. so who knows?

 

[DMRick]

I don't think right now she is poor. I always get the impression that she is planning for the future. She was on the Today show after Jon took money out of the account. It worked going on and complaining, because she got it back LOL.

Everyone knows about the $20,000. It's mentioned a lot. It's in the papers he filed. Yes, it's possible he's giving that now, but when the money they put aside for that is gone (as he's now saying it will soon be and he'll be broke) that will be a thing of the past. I hope she is banking as much of that support as she can.

Ok, what about the 20,000 a month from Jon? I know no one likes to mention that b/c it takes away from 'poor me' and makes Jon look better. And if he wasn't paying it, she would be on the Today show crying about it.

I don't think it's possible for the kids to see her less.

 

[Dee77]

She said, to support her family she would have to work '
only way she could really support the kids would be to do 12 hour shifts, 6 days a week"
I think she is right..to bring in enough money for her brood, she would have to work long hours. Since that would be almost impossible, then she's prob better off doing the TV work while she can.
My daughter is a nurse earning great money, but it wouldn't go far with 9 people, and a sitter to pay for. There are nurses who grab all the overtime they can, because they do need the money.
We all know that Kate is 'performing' for Kate. But I do believe that doing this now and holding onto her money (we really seldom see anything that says Kate is squandering the money) is smart. Who knows when her 15 minutes are up, and she will have to downsize and go back to nursing. I think the kids will see her a lot less when that happens. I also have doubts that once Jon's money put aside runs out, that she will see much in the way of support. I hope she is saving all she can for now.

I agree that we don't see her squandering money.... because she gets so many freebies?
Who pays for her hair extensions, clothing and bodyguard? What about vacations? Do the kids really go to private school? Who actually pays for the childcare? I think there's a lot more to their financial situation that is unclear.

I am of the belief that where there's a will, there's a way. In the current economic downturn, I believe most families would agree that certain extravagances need to be re-evaluated. Why is she above doing the same? I think she is making a mockery of her fans who so dutifully vote for her on DWTS and buy her books.

 

[DMRick]

Kate claimed money was set aside and we learned yesterday that it hadn't been .. so who knows?

Where did we learn that? I only learned that they didn't have a trust set up. My kids had plenty of savings without a trust. There are lots of ways to save for your kids college without a regular trust including college funds.

Yes, she is getting support from Jon..Madge, do you think that will last, once the money they put aside for that is gone?

You are right, Kate does not HAVE to be on TV at this time to support her children. But I'm thinking her 15 minutes will soon turn to dust, and I hope she is banking what she is earning now.

As for not seeing the kids much..nope, she isn't, while she is away on DWTS, and prob once she does the book signings (if anyone buys it). Looks like she is running about 50% away..I do hope Jon is with them a good chunk of that time, and that her time with them will be more once her life settles.

 

[Dee77]

I don't think right now she is poor. I always get the impression that she is planning for the future. She was on the Today show after Jon took money out of the account. It worked going on and complaining, because she got it back LOL.

Everyone knows about the $20,000. It's mentioned a lot. It's in the papers he filed. Yes, it's possible he's giving that now, but when the money they put aside for that is gone (as he's now saying it will soon be and he'll be broke) that will be a thing of the past. I hope she is banking as much of that support as she can.

When she went on the Today show last year after Jon took money out of the account, she said she had bills in her pocketbook that needed to be sent out but she couldn't because there was no money. I personally believed that to have been a joke because she and Jon after all the money that was made could not have been down to just $200K in the bank and if that is the case then that means that they have no mortgage left on the house. It was reported that they made over $2 Million from the show alone so I think she did that entire interview for sympathy.

 

[DMRick]

Yes, she does get a lot of freebees, including the extensions. I don't know or care who pays for her clothing and bodyguard. For what she is doing for a living right now, she may need both.

If she can afford to send her children (and that's what a lot of us worked for, me included) to private school by working, that's her choice. I'm happy to not see the kids uprooted from what they know. Their school is great about keeping the paps away. The prob feel safe there. I assume that she can afford the day care right now, since she is making good money. It will be a bit harder to pay for it if she goes back to nursing.
Why do you think she needs to reevaluate? She can afford extravagances at this time (if you mean the kids school and boydguard, if she is in fact paying for the bodyguard). She does have a well paying job right now and can afford the 'extravagances'. When the time comes (when her 15 are gone) I would assume she would downsize. She would have to. Right now she doesn't..just like any other women out there earning a great salary. I just hope she is banking a good share for the future.
I don't vote for her or buy her books, but even if I did, I don't have a problem with her working at her job, and I don't think she is making a mockery of anyone. Again, I think she is looking towards the future, and I hope she is saving, because the 15 minutes just can't last much longer.

I agree that we don't see her squandering money.... because she gets so many freebies?
Who pays for her hair extensions, clothing and bodyguard? What about vacations? Do the kids really go to private school? Who actually pays for the childcare? I think there's a lot more to their financial situation that is unclear.

I am of the belief that where there's a will, there's a way. In the current economic downturn, I believe most families would agree that certain extravagances need to be re-evaluated. Why is she above doing the same? I think she is making a mockery of her fans who so dutifully vote for her on DWTS and buy her books.

 

[madge]

Where did we learn that? I only learned that they didn't have a trust set up. My kids had plenty of savings without a trust. There are lots of ways to save for your kids college without a regular trust including college funds.

I read more from than one source (source meaning website, not source meaning unnamed person, LOL) yesterday that November was the first that money was set aside for the children. We know that were other accounts, because Jon & Kate fought over them, but they were all accounts that could have been touched with "good" (in the eye of the behold, I think) reason. The skepticism over what's been put aside for the children will always be a part of this story, at least it will for me.

Yes, she is getting support from Jon..Madge, do you think that will last, once the money they put aside for that is gone?

I'm not sure I follow and may have missed something .. who has put money aside for Jon's child support?

I believe Kate's lawyer will make darn sure (as well he should!) that Jon is paying support until the children are 18. Will it be $20,000/month? That's for the court to decide, but I do think that Jon will be paying child support for the next 12 years.

You are right, Kate does not HAVE to be on TV at this time to support her children. But I'm thinking her 15 minutes will soon turn to dust, and I hope she is banking what she is earning now.

I don't think Kate thinks her 15 minutes will be over soon, though.

Do you think that she's working and saving so she can be a SAHM when the 15 minutes are up? That just occured to me, LOL.

As for not seeing the kids much..nope, she isn't, while she is away on DWTS, and prob once she does the book signings (if anyone buys it). Looks like she is running about 50% away..I do hope Jon is with them a good chunk of that time, and that her time with them will be more once her life settles.

I read yesterday reports that she's not letting Jon stay there while she's gone .. no idea if that's true or not.

 

[DMRick]

When she went on the Today show last year after Jon took money out of the account, she said she had bills in her pocketbook that needed to be sent out but she couldn't because there was no money. I personally believed that to have been a joke because she and Jon after all the money that was made could not have been down to just $200K in the bank and if that is the case then that means that they have no mortgage left on the house. It was reported that they made over $2 Million from the show alone so I think she did that entire interview for sympathy.

I thought she said when she went to pay the bills from her checking account she found the money gone. That was a lot of money to have gone, and to have to replace.
Say they made $2million from the show, then paid 50% in taxes, which leaves $1mil. Then they bought the house. She may also have money in investments. They did say they had set some aside for the kids college. That was a lot of money to be gone..and she did get it put back in.
Did she do the interview for sympathy? Prob, but the money had been taken and it got replaced. Kate isn't the smartest person when it comes to keeping her mouth shut. That, IMO, is stupid stuff. I still think she is smart for taking advantage of her 15 and gathering up the money while she can.

 

[Dee77]

There's a big difference between providing for your children and maintaining a very lavish lifestyle at the expense of the children's well-being. Does anyone here think that TLC will want a nice, normal non-drama format for either of the new shows? So with that said, I think that to bring in the ratings there will be some element of controversy with the new shows and I believe that the kids well being will be compromised yet again.