Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread--Part 7

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Next to Jon's wedding ring?



I hope he didn't, but please..she didn't know enough to lock it up?

Well--since we're all speculating...

We don't know that she didn't "not" lock it or the bedroom up.

I know we can pick locks in our house.

Just sayin'.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

And if even half of what she says is true, why is she staying with him???

And oh yeah, he definitely needs a clean sweep in the "friend" department. Of course, I'm not sure he knows how to pick them.

B/c she's "winning" and I would dare say--a gold digger.



(Serioulsy--on one hand if he was seriously abusive, she would not be admitting it so soon and so publicly while still in a problematic relationship. On the other hand, he likely isn't "abusive"--but she's just frustrated with his antics and she applied a very strong word without thinking of the repercussions of that. On the latter--it really waters down true abuse which is said for abuse victims everywhere.)

 

[Eeyore'sthebest]

B/c she's "winning" and I would dare say--a gold digger.

I completely agree. But I still couldn't strap myself to him no matter how much cash was involved.

 

[Eeyore'sthebest]

(Serioulsy--on one hand if he was seriously abusive, she would not be admitting it so soon and so publicly while still in a problematic relationship. On the other hand, he likely isn't "abusive"--but she's just frustrated with his antics and she applied a very strong word without thinking of the repercussions of that. On the latter--it really waters down true abuse which is said for abuse victims everywhere.)

I believe he has a temper and I'm sure this entire divorce has brought out the worst in both J&K. Has he thrown "mantrums" (what a word )? I'm sure he has. But I agree that saying someone is emotionally abusive but refusing to leave him seems to water down the argument. Especially since she is telling the news media. It's not like its coming out after she fled the relationship through those "unnamed sources". Nope, I believe this is probably a way for her to make some cash.

And if she thinks he got upset previously, just wait until he sees this crap.

 

[redrosesix]

I'm not saying he did steal it--

But I am puzzled as to how you can justify it and essentially cast it off as no big deal.

Actually--I would be apalled at anyone who feels this is "okay" in any way IF TRUE.

I don't see where that statement was at all justified -- maybe you need to read my post again

Next to Jon's wedding ring?



I hope he didn't, but please..she didn't know enough to lock it up?

With all the nannies coming and going (not to mention 8 kids), I'd be locking everything up.

Anger, "mantrums" and lies--not exactly a good thing to publish and certainly something Kate could use against him.

Perhaps Jon should rethink his circle of "friends".

Wow--I don't think it was appropriate at all for Hailey to mention that to the press.

Certainly can tell she's still naive in many ways.

Sounds like Hailey wasn't crazy about missing out on weekend dates with Jon -- stuff like this is great ammunition for Kate to use in the custody hearings.

Now I'm thinking her next interview will be about how Jon broke her heart when he dumped her. And I'm not feeling sad about that -- it will give him more energy to focus on his kids. IMO, he's not at the right place in his life for a serious relationship.

 

[madge]

this article originated in Star Magazine .. I don't put alot of faith in it's truthfulness. LOL

Kate Gosselin reportedly fears her estranged husband Jon Gosselin stole her diary and will release it to the media. Sources say Gosselin’s diary consisted of her most intimate thoughts on her troubled marriage to Jon, their sex life and her feels about having 8 children.

“She left the diary on her nightstand by accident and was praying it’d still be there when she got back, but it wasn’t,” says a source. “The kids told Kate they didn’t steal it, so she thinks Jon might have. She’s flipping out!”

Kate is “distraught,” the insider says, and fears Jon will “sell it so he could make some money and embarrass her at the same time.”

“Some of her deepest thoughts were in there,” adds the source.

Meanwhile, the former Jon and Kate Plus 8 stars seemed to have worked out their financial problems with the help of court orders and a divorce arbitrator. Jon recently complied with a court order to return $180,000 to their joint bank account while Kate accounted for $55,000 she spent on household expenses.

http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=133972&cat=2

 

[WaltD4Me]

Part of me is wondering why this guy's not on TLC anymore? I never really watched his show on TLC but clearly he likes being in the public eye and wants to bring some attention to something. If he didn't, why would he publicize Jon being there and all this "help" he's giving him? Why not just do it quickly and leave us all scratching our heads as to how it happened??? This will be the third time that he's talked with Jon and honestly, I haven't seen a drastic change in him other than the lack of fence interviews lately (which isn't a bad thing!). I understand these changes don't take place over night and all but part of me's just screaming that this rabi guy is either trying to get back at TLC for him not being on their network anymore (not sure how that panned out - who ended that deal or whatever) or what he's trying to bring attention to by blabbing about when and where Jon will be and making sure the world knows!

I never even heard of Rabbi Schmuley until Michael Jackson. Apparently he was counseling him too and we know how that turned out. I was very put off by him discussing his private conversations with Michael Jackson (as he is a Rabbi and I'm sure Michael believed the conversations would remain private)and showing pictures of him in his home with his chilidren. Then I heard Jon had hooked up with him too and I just ...

 

[madge]

But we never trust Kate's words when her actions don't match. I am unclear as to why Jon's words are given so much credibility over his actions when they don't match.

I think they're both full of it. Desperate to keep the spotlight on them.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I never even heard of Rabbi Schmuley until Michael Jackson. Apparently he was counseling him too and we know how that turned out. I was very put off by him discussing his private conversations with Michael Jackson (as he is a Rabbi and I'm sure Michael believed the conversations would remain private)and showing pictures of him in his home with his chilidren. Then I head Jon had hooked up with him too and I just ...

In rabbi's defense--MJ was quite healthy in his autopsy (aside from the OD) and his death is being investigated as a homicide.

But not in his defense--I'm guessing that Rabbi doesn't have a big influence on getting his "patients" away from bad people.

 

[Promomx2]

Maybe the person who cleans the house, took the diary and is just saving it for the right time to release it. Plus, I'm not putting the blame on the kids, but how many times have you asked "who took this or who broke this?" and you get "not me" from everyone in the house?

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I don't see where that statement was at all justified -- maybe you need to read my post again

IF IF IF she is a victim of theft.....


this statement seems to really cast off the seriousness of someone's diary getting stolen:

And what could be in her diary that we haven't already heard about from one side or the other.

 

[madge]

What the heck?? This just gets wierder.

no kidding. she's going on The Insider and this is what she says?

Is Jon Gosselin the world's worst judge of character, really?

 

[redrosesix]

IF IF IF she is a victim of theft.....


this statement seems to really cast off the seriousness of someone's diary getting stolen:

No, it doesn't. I wrote it -- I should know.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I believe he has a temper and I'm sure this entire divorce has brought out the worst in both J&K. Has he thrown "mantrums" (what a word )? I'm sure he has. But I agree that saying someone is emotionally abusive but refusing to leave him seems to water down the argument. Especially since she is telling the news media. It's not like its coming out after she fled the relationship through those "unnamed sources". Nope, I believe this is probably a way for her to make some cash.

And if she thinks he got upset previously, just wait until he sees this crap.

That brings an interesting thought to my mind....

While I don't justify Kate's behavior towards Jon in that it was "right" or "correct" for her to do what she did, I could kind of understand it b/c Jon's demeaner had suggested a level of immaturity (in my observations, others may disagree) and that surely can get frustrating for a partner who may not understand those differences.


The thought that I had--well Jon has several years and more life experience than Hailey--perhaps in their relationship, she is behaving with a level of immaturity that Jon doesn't get.

Almost sounds like--his mantrums with Hailey, may be like Kate's tantrums with Jon.

I NEVER thought Kate "abused" Jon in the true sense of abuse. I think the term was used in a watered down manner to describe Kate's mean reactions to her husband. Some people are less patient than others--by a little...or by a landslide.

What I think we may have just witnessed (or heard about ) a role reversal for Jon. He is now reacting to Hailey as Kate did to him. At least that is what it sounds like.

(and for some to suggest it is learned--usually it is youth victims of abuse who "learn" to abuse later in life. It is not usually an adult who then takes it out on another adult.)

It truly is a shame--but I just found that very interesting.

 

[DMRick]

Plus, I'm not putting the blame on the kids, but how many times have you asked "who took this or who broke this?" and you get "not me" from everyone in the house?

I used to think I had a child named 'Not Me' in the house LOL.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

No, it doesn't. I wrote it -- I should know.

Can you explain what you meant then?

 

[redrosesix]

this article originated in Star Magazine .. I don't put alot of faith in it's truthfulness. LOL

It's been a slow week (well, at least it WAS until Hailey decided to speak for herself). And without MJ around to write stories about, they had to come up with something.

Maybe the person who cleans the house, took the diary and is just saving it for the right time to release it. Plus, I'm not putting the blame on the kids, but how many times have you asked "who took this or who broke this?" and you get "not me" from everyone in the house?

Exactly

I gave the accusations against Jon about as much credence as him saying Kate had taken his wedding ring. Without video footage, there is no way of knowing.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I used to think I had a child names 'Not Me' in the house LOL.

On the episode with the dresser knob--it didn't Kate long to track down the culprit.

I don't see her kids having effective use of "not me" at all.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I gave the accusations against Jon about as much credence as him saying Kate had taken his wedding ring. Without video footage, there is no way of knowing.

Cameras are banned from the house, so no such luck.

 

[newtodis]

New article on Jon on People.com with quotes from Hailey. Per Hailey, Jon is emotionally abusive! But she's not going to leave him.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20315943,00.html

Poor Hailey - she sounds like she's got some kind of confidence issues or something. The thing about not hurting her friends at the end seems like maybe she's prone to picking the "bad" boys and trying to "fix" them?? I don't know...