Thoughts on the Adventure?

[wendlle]

Sounds like I would enjoy this cruise then. We're going to try next year.

Good that you have this option close to you, now that the Wonder isn't sailing to Australia! I had really wanted to the a trans-Pacific and/or the special longer itineraries from Sydney that went to NZ, but never got around to it. Oh, well.

I really wanted to do the Honolulu to Sydney but never got to it either

 

[leeleemurph]

I was on the maiden voyage, we travelled from Ireland to Singapore. Also spent five days in Singapore to experience that. Absolutely phenomenal city, would go again in a heartbeat.

In terms of the Adventure, I loved it. The theming just blew me away, it's so beautiful. San Fransokyo is so, so cool and the imagination garden is gorgeous, especially at night. They just completely crushed it with the themed areas, so stunning.

We had a deluxe inside stateroom themed to Frozen and it was perfect for us. Loved the shower though can see that it could be an issue for families needing a bathtub. We actually barely spent time in the room as we were always out and about exploring.

I wasn't overly bothered by the lack of an adults only pool as we don't spend much time at the pool anyway. We were moreso disappointed in the lack of adult only trivia or things like that. In saying that, on such a short sailing we found it hard to see everything!

Food was fantastic and loved the wider variety of foods than what we get on the other ships. Any staff we encountered were so lovely and helpful and very excited to be there and to help you out.

Only real queues we had were to pay for merch on the first night and one day to get into the sit down lunch in Navigators Club. We got a meet and greet with Baymax but couldn't get any of the others, they were always booked out. So if characters are a priority for you then just temper expectations there and be prepared to be on the app a bit to try and get a spot.

Disappointing to not get to try the rollercoaster but it didn't ruin it for us. Really enjoyed all of the shows, the Avengers and Remember show were great! Also really liked the Moana show, more than the Treasure version actually.

Like any ship there were pros and cons, but overall we had a blast and were so glad that we did it. I'd definitely sail on her again and tie it into a wider Asia trip. They've done a great job with it.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

Also really liked the Moana show, more than the Treasure version actually.

Wow, high praise for that show!

 

[leeleemurph]

Wow, high praise for that show!

I just didn't really the Treasure version, I felt it dragged on a bit and we had a Maui that wasn't great! (Puppetry was great though) The Adventure one was a nice condensed version of the story, short and sweet That's just my opinion though!

 

[wendlle]

We had a deluxe inside stateroom themed to Frozen and it was perfect for us. Loved the shower though can see that it could be an issue for families needing a bathtub. We actually barely spent time in the room as we were always out and about exploring.

I wasn't overly bothered by the lack of an adults only pool as we don't spend much time at the pool anyway. We were moreso disappointed in the lack of adult only trivia or things like that. In saying that, on such a short sailing we found it hard to see everything!

Food was fantastic and loved the wider variety of foods than what we get on the other ships. Any staff we encountered were so lovely and helpful and very excited to be there and to help you out.

I also have booked a Frozen themed inside deluxe, I've seen pictures and looks perfect for us. I do wish that they kept the magic portholes from some of the other ships, but that's not a huge issue for us.

Oh bummer about lack of adults only trivia, I enjoy those but I think this ship is really focusing on families and a lot of Asian families really do almost everything together, so they really aren't into dropping kids off at the club and doing things without the kids so can see why they are more focused on the entire family with the entertainment and offerings, but maybe as they see more adults asking for adults only options they may (hopefully) add some more in the future - the lack of adults only pool isn't a bother for me, If I'm at the pool it's with my kids so never used the adults only areas really anyway.

 

[leeleemurph]

I also have booked a Frozen themed inside deluxe, I've seen pictures and looks perfect for us. I do wish that they kept the magic portholes from some of the other ships, but that's not a huge issue for us.

Oh bummer about lack of adults only trivia, I enjoy those but I think this ship is really focusing on families and a lot of Asian families really do almost everything together, so they really aren't into dropping kids off at the club and doing things without the kids so can see why they are more focused on the entire family with the entertainment and offerings, but maybe as they see more adults asking for adults only options they may (hopefully) add some more in the future - the lack of adults only pool isn't a bother for me, If I'm at the pool it's with my kids so never used the adults only areas really anyway.

Yeah the demographic is definitely a lot different on the ship, a lot more large family groups who are doing everything together. So that explains the lack of adult only activities and spaces. It may evolve over time when they look at their data around who is booking. It's such a short sailing that we wouldn't have even had time to do the pool if there was an adults only one so we were fine with that.

Hope you have the best time! It's a beautiful ship and it is different but I liked that it was a brand new experience. I think some of the negativity is unwarranted, not every ship needs to be the exact same and every ship will have its pros and cons.

 

[Wedgeout]

I get the different ship style experience. I don’t understand the all out at sea. So far haven’t seen much on what the “cruising” looks like.

They sure say it’s quite warm. So I checked its routes, since a moving ship usually has a cooling breeze. It doesn’t appear moves much once it out. Not sold on this type itinerary. Probably a fuel saver but has to be a bore for the captain & crew.

 

[wendlle]

I get the different ship style experience. I don’t understand the all out at sea. So far haven’t seen much on what the “cruising” looks like.

They sure say it’s quite warm. So I checked its routes, since a moving ship usually has a cooling breeze. It doesn’t appear moves much once it out. Not sold on this type itinerary. Probably a fuel saver but has to be a bore for the captain & crew.

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I get the different ship style experience. I don’t understand the all out at sea. So far haven’t seen much on what the “cruising” looks like.

They sure say it’s quite warm. So I checked its routes, since a moving ship usually has a cooling breeze. It doesn’t appear moves much once it out. Not sold on this type itinerary. Probably a fuel saver but has to be a bore for the captain & crew.

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The point is that there is no Disney park here so the ship is the park essentially.
Eventually I’m sure there will be port stops but people are going on this ship for a ship experience so no need to go anywhere - it’s not about saving fuel or money it’s about giving people from this area of the world a Disney experience that they normally don’t have.
Same has been done with the wonder in Australia and the first cruises done in the UK

 

[Wedgeout]

The point is that there is no Disney park here so the ship is the park essentially

If talking Singapore. Not even close to a floating park. Those attractions rides onboard are less than even fair like. Just a ‘Disney experience’ and a real strength calling it a cruise. Asia has 3 Disney Parks. The most in the world. Plenty of real park opportunities. See how long the 3 & 4 day sailings to nowhere last.

 

[wendlle]

They’re here to stay for quite a few years just like the other sailings I mentioned and yes this is their answer to a park
Singapore was supposed to get a park but it went to Hong Kong instead so this is their answer to that - Singapore has some pretty die hard Disney fans, the most in any country per capita.

 

[Wedgeout]

Disney isn’t running a charity. Docking the Adventure in Singapore has to be some Chapek blunder deal. IMO they received a bait & switch. If that’s the way Singapore likes to cruise…they need to get out more and see the other ‘Disney Way’ options.

Back to the Adventure thoughts. Ship itself looks fun. The market differences and deck plans/food locations is unique. When it sails closer to home, I’d try it out. Probably a one & done ship unfortunately.

Doesn’t matter how they prefer to sail and the culture. There should have been a Grand Atrium. Entry onto any ship shouldn’t be at some random elevator bank. What’s even close to an atrium area is just clutter. Don’t like the main activity area stage being placed outside in the valley of the sun, requiring multiple sail always..No.

Having the immersive San Fransokyo being tied into the Vibe & Edge locations was very imaginative.

 

[wendlle]

Well I’m sure Disney would have loved an atrium but when they purchased the ship for pennies on the dollar they had to make do with what they got and that means no atrium

I’ll be on this ship a lot I’m from Australia it’s the closest ship to where I live and I’m not going back to the USA anytime soon now that the orange one is in charge so the adventure will get my business for many years to come and I can’t wait.
I love the look of it and am looking forward to having no ports and to just enjoy the ship.

To each their own.

 

[Bad Pink Tink 2.0]

Doesn’t matter how they prefer to sail and the culture.

Wow, just Wow

I need to be careful as this isnt the controversy section. Im at a loss at how to respond to this. So Disney should only be Americancentric..... ok then... righty....

 

[Wedgeout]

Wow, just Wow

I need to be careful as this isnt the controversy section. Im at a loss at how to respond to this. So Disney should only be Americancentric..... ok then... righty....

Doesn’t matter how they prefer to sail and the culture. There should have been a Grand Atrium.

I’m not going back to the USA anytime soon now that the orange one is in charge

Any ship is usually designed with a central atrium. It’s not an “American” concept. Only one cruise ship is even flagged & registered to the USA. The company originally designed it without an atrium. A Hong Kong company. (Usually a cost measure). Their choice…went bankrupt.

Should focus your desire to start controversy in the proper direction.

 

[FWRR3]

In an early discussion about the Adventure (which I can't find) I think it was predicted that there may be problems with guests removing gratuities due to cultural habits. I am wondering if anyone has heard of this being an issue.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I’m not going back to the USA anytime soon now that the orange one is in charge

Likewise this comment belongs on the Controversial board not a thread talking about a Disney cruise ship in Singapore.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

In an early discussion about the Adventure (which I can't find) I think it was predicted that there may be problems with guests removing gratuities due to cultural habits. I am wondering if anyone has heard of this being an issue.

It could be a tad too early to know if that is widespread enough to get a norm but I am also interested in that to see if it mimics Australian cruises. My experience with Seabourn the Australians are the primary target market to Singapore outside of the Asian market. The proximity being the main reason.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

don’t understand the all out at sea.

It's a very specific type of cruising that's for sure but I would also look at it no differently than a transatlantic or transpacific cruise where normally the number of ports are pretty limited and it's majority sea days. Being on the Seabourn FB pages there is a big market for people who love doing those, they aren't my cup of tea, but it is certainly something people enjoy.

However, the main difference is Seabourn doesn't just run those types of cruises they are designed as the repositioning cruises (like many lines) it's just a very popular choice for passengers, that only thing I add as the caveat is because this ship is so large with so many passengers they will have to diversify....eventually...what they do as at some point it won't be enough to sustain on a profit margin with all the costs that go into operating a ship, when that happens could be a decent far off time away or not who knows. They don't have the private island thing the same as the Caribbean is quickly becoming filled with to just easily add though.

 

[peder]

The point is that there is no Disney park here so the ship is the park essentially.

I think we all understand the idea, but pitching Pym Quantum Racers as some sort of equivalent to a land-based theme park ride is really dishonest. Singapore already has a great Universal theme park. Disney's market theory here is frankly wrong and as soon as excitement fades over this ship they're going to take massive price cuts and have trouble filling the ship.

I'm not a hater of the ship, it's just that Disney insists on cramming their specific style into the industry in a way that hasn't worked for anyone else. Majority of the industry doesn't do just 3- and 4-night sailings, and they sure as heck don't do port-less sailings. They don't have the hubris to think that everyone else is wrong about what the consumer has said they like over the course of decades.

The bigger issue in all of this is that Disney doesn't want to take families to Pa Tong because it's not seen as family-friendly, and other ports like Malacca and Klang maybe aren't ready for the primetime with a giant 200k+ GT ship and 8,000 passengers. There's just not a lot of places nearby that the typical Disney family would find picturesque enough or that feel safe enough TBH. And some of these ports in that area are really far! Disney would likely need to offer 8-night sailings to reach some of the ports in Vietnam. And lol, they'll never do that, because Disney knows best and Disney knows that customers would never book an 8-nighter when a 3-nighter would do the trick!

So all of this is to say that Disney intentionally narrows their market by insisting on short sailings, by insisting on not visiting ports, and they're going to find that by limiting the size of their market so far, they will have trouble filling such a large ship. Remember, Singapore only has something like 73,000 hotel rooms. And the Disney Adventure has 2,100 staterooms. The Adventure now comprises something like 3% of all hotel capacity in the entire country!