Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 6

[madge]

Is he doing anything new that he didn't do before? He's had Kate's luggage in his hand before, and he's carried stuff for her. I know we call him her bodyguard, but it appears he's more an all around person. He seems to be a nice guy...and maybe he doesn't mind all he's doing. He's prob earning a pretty penny, since it appears he wouldn't have time to hold another job.

we call him her bodyguard because he was hired through a security agency. http://www.prudentrisk.com/bios/bio-Neild.html

I wonder who else was in that picture. They always crop them so tight, so it would appear to just be the two of them.

when she was here, there was an assistant, as well.

I think Kate travels with security and her publicist.

 

[madge]

Is it me or is the DIS painfully slow tonight?

not just you. it's awful.

 

[DreaGirl]

I can't even comment because it is soooo slllloowww tonight.

I might have to watch the rerun...

 

[Buckalew11]

I thought Kate was fine on the View. I've seen worse co-hosts, for sure. I also find her easier to take than Elizabeth. However, I don't care for the show so I'd hate for this the place that she was to end up. I do not like Joy. Sheri seems like a dingbat and while I like Whoopi, she tends to take over and she acts like her opinion is the be all, end all of anything said. She is too domineering IMHO.
I thought Kate's question for Victoria beckham (something like, "do you still feel sexy?' or something like that...) was just a stupid question , LOL. This woman definitely feels sexy--look at her! Geez, you do not dress like that, carry yourself like that etc. if you don't feel sexy. I thought she might as well have asked her "Are you rich?" LOL

I haven't watched tonights show yet.

 

[DMRick]

But if she is paying for him, (or even TLC) and that is their agreement (bodyguard/helper/babysitter/stuff carrier), what difference does it make if he carries her luggage, or dress, or whatever? I guess I just don't care if he carries her stuff. Maybe it's because I'm old as dirt and I don't see anything wrong with him doing it. Maybe it's the gentleman in him. I wonder, if she was carrying it and he was empty handed, would that also be noted ?
If she needs him to protect her, I'm pretty sure he would drop the stuff to be there for her. In the mean time, good job Steve in helping her out (if you are reading this LOL!)

Yes, slow slow slow!

we call him her bodyguard because he was hired through a security agency. http://www.prudentrisk.com/bios/bio-Neild.html


when she was here, there was an assistant, as well.

I think Kate travels with security and her publicist.

 

[madge]

But if she is paying for him, (or even TLC) and that is their agreement (bodyguard/helper/babysitter/stuff carrier), what difference does it make if he carries her luggage, or dress, or whatever? I guess I just don't care if he carries her stuff. Maybe it's because I'm old as dirt and I don't see anything wrong with him doing it. Maybe it's the gentleman in him. I wonder, if she was carrying it and he was empty handed, would that also be noted ?
If she needs him to protect her, I'm pretty sure he would drop the stuff to be there for her. In the mean time, good job Steve in helping her out (if you are reading this LOL!)

I guess, ultimately, the arrangement would be made between whoever has contracted the security company to work with the Gosselins and the security company. There have been other guards with the family. Whatever works for them. I just thought it looked funny to see Steve walking behind Kate holding a flimsy garment bag. Not terribly menacing from a security standpoint. LOL.

I'm sure you're right, though. I'd say he can jump into protection mode very quickly!

 

[barkley]

That confuses me too Maybe the poster meant it has no additional nutritional value. But IMO organic food is soooo much better for you and definitely tastes better (but sometimes it's pretty ugly -- you have to put up with a few bruises if you want to forgo the preservatives)

i'm guessing it's additional nutritional value as well.

i will suggest as someone who lives around (now) lots of people who sell items at farmer's markets as 'organic' and having lived in an area with "organic" commercial farms, that people, esp. those with allergies and health issues such that "organic" needs to mean for them truly devoid of chemicals and pesticides: realy research the source of your products. an organic farm that is adjacent to a non organic that engages in crop dusting pesticides does have exposure (we can/could see the pesticides wafting onto the organic fields) or shared water sources (the weed control board monitors and requires myself and my immediate neighbors to use certain chemicals which do contaminate the ground water which many of my organic farming/livestock raising neighbors use for their products). i'm sure there are large scale operators that use some types of water filtration and purification mechanisms but those local to me that sell at farmer's markets or to specialty stores do not appear to do so.


buyer beware.

 

[DMRick]

We know the growers, so that might make a difference. One local farmer has used my land for his beans, and by the amount of bugs I've picked off them, and the weeds I've pulled, I'd say they were organic enough for me.

I'd rather have something that someone tries to keep as organic, than something sprayed the heck out of with chemicals. To be organic in our area, is a pretty protected thing..I doubt there would be plantings next to a filed that sprays...but then it's not large commercial here..more for farmers market, and you don't have a neighboring field next door in most instances. I'd love to be completely organic, but the cost stops me...and luckily I don't need to be organic because of any auto-immune problems (however family members do, and they are careful).

In any case, Kate does seem to know the difference between junk food and organic..she says she tries to stay organic and not feed her family a lot of junk food. Who knows how long that will last now.

i'm guessing it's additional nutritional value as well.

i will suggest as someone who lives around (now) lots of people who sell items at farmer's markets as 'organic' and having lived in an area with "organic" commercial farms, that people, esp. those with allergies and health issues such that "organic" needs to mean for them truly devoid of chemicals and pesticides: realy research the source of your products. an organic farm that is adjacent to a non organic that engages in crop dusting pesticides does have exposure (we can/could see the pesticides wafting onto the organic fields) or shared water sources (the weed control board monitors and requires myself and my immediate neighbors to use certain chemicals which do contaminate the ground water which many of my organic farming/livestock raising neighbors use for their products). i'm sure there are large scale operators that use some types of water filtration and purification mechanisms but those local to me that sell at farmer's markets or to specialty stores do not appear to do so.


buyer beware.

 

[Debbie]

Not sure if it is editing or just a power game kids play in these situations.

I found it interesting that Mady seemed to disappear with Grandma during Jon's "fun" activities. Wonder how much she knows about what is going on.

Kate said it was tough being a single mom. Jon says the kids exhaust him but he does miss them when he is in NYC.

Mady didn't enjoy the rock climbing with Jon, and she's not really the outdoorsy. I can imagine that she wouldn't want to go fishing. It wasn't just for the 'day' though, was it, since Jon took them fishing the following day, too.

Ash was with Kate. There was a helper with Jon, not sure who it was. And Grandma had Mady when Jon was in town.

ETA:

Is it me or is the DIS painfully slow tonight?

I finally shut down last night, it was so sssssssssssslllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww.

I guess, ultimately, the arrangement would be made between whoever has contracted the security company to work with the Gosselins and the security company. There have been other guards with the family. Whatever works for them. I just thought it looked funny to see Steve walking behind Kate holding a flimsy garment bag. Not terribly menacing from a security standpoint. LOL.

I'm sure you're right, though. I'd say he can jump into protection mode very quickly!

I don't have an issue with him carrying things, anymore than I have with someone else staying at the car while they carried kids into the motel, or setting up the projector, or helping figure out the popcorn machine.

I enjoyed the show last night. I do wonder, though, how long Kate will be able to stand having to 'put the house back in order' after Jon's stays. (I know that I would hate that, and would probably be grumbling....loudly! )

 

[MAKmom]

Ash was with Kate. There was a helper with Jon, not sure who it was. And Grandma had Mady when Jon was in town.

ETA:

Is it me or is the DIS painfully slow tonight?

It was & I could not post last night.

That confuses me too Maybe the poster meant it has no additional nutritional value. But IMO organic food is soooo much better for you and definitely tastes better (but sometimes it's pretty ugly -- you have to put up with a few bruises if you want to forgo the preservatives)

i'm guessing it's additional nutritional value as well.

i will suggest as someone who lives around (now) lots of people who sell items at farmer's markets as 'organic' and having lived in an area with "organic" commercial farms, that people, esp. those with allergies and health issues such that "organic" needs to mean for them truly devoid of chemicals and pesticides: realy research the source of your products. an organic farm that is adjacent to a non organic that engages in crop dusting pesticides does have exposure (we can/could see the pesticides wafting onto the organic fields) or shared water sources (the weed control board monitors and requires myself and my immediate neighbors to use certain chemicals which do contaminate the ground water which many of my organic farming/livestock raising neighbors use for their products). i'm sure there are large scale operators that use some types of water filtration and purification mechanisms but those local to me that sell at farmer's markets or to specialty stores do not appear to do so.


buyer beware.

That must be what she meant. When my kids were small we ate as Organic as possible for many reasons. Now I still try to buy organic but I will buy thick skin fruits that are not organic. I am not buying organic meats anymore for financial reasons. But I try to buy meats that are not treated with hormones or antibiotics.
We joined an organic farming co-op that was not near other farms one year. I had a sick child & we were trying to figure out what was wrong.

 

[MAKmom]

Mady didn't enjoy the rock climbing with Jon, and she's not really the outdoorsy. I can imagine that she wouldn't want to go fishing. It wasn't just for the 'day' though, was it, since Jon took them fishing the following day, too.

I finally shut down last night, it was so sssssssssssslllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww.

I don't have an issue with him carrying things, anymore than I have with someone else staying at the car while they carried kids into the motel, or setting up the projector, or helping figure out the popcorn machine.

I enjoyed the show last night. I do wonder, though, how long Kate will be able to stand having to 'put the house back in order' after Jon's stays. (I know that I would hate that, and would probably be grumbling....loudly! )

I would loose my mind if I had that arrangement. I could never do it for 1 day if he was bringing his friends over.

 

[DreaGirl]

I don't have an issue with him carrying things, anymore than I have with someone else staying at the car while they carried kids into the motel, or setting up the projector, or helping figure out the popcorn machine.

I enjoyed the show last night. I do wonder, though, how long Kate will be able to stand having to 'put the house back in order' after Jon's stays. (I know that I would hate that, and would probably be grumbling....loudly! )

The bodyguard did all those things? I thought they didn't show him on camera?

Was this on last nights show? If so, then how do we know that Jon doesn't have to put the house back in order? Editing?

 

[MAKmom]

We know the growers, so that might make a difference. One local farmer has used my land for his beans, and by the amount of bugs I've picked off them, and the weeds I've pulled, I'd say they were organic enough for me.

I'd rather have something that someone tries to keep as organic, than something sprayed the heck out of with chemicals. To be organic in our area, is a pretty protected thing..I doubt there would be plantings next to a filed that sprays...but then it's not large commercial here..more for farmers market, and you don't have a neighboring field next door in most instances. I'd love to be completely organic, but the cost stops me...and luckily I don't need to be organic because of any auto-immune problems (however family members do, and they are careful).

In any case, Kate does seem to know the difference between junk food and organic..she says she tries to stay organic and not feed her family a lot of junk food. Who knows how long that will last now.

It is really hard when the kid become tweens. My kids only had Burger King if we had a DR appointment growing up. It was so not mainstream. We rarely had take out....we still do not do it but that is a cost thing with me. I figured out how much money I was spending on things & how to get to Disney every year by cooking my own meals.

 

[MAKmom]

The bodyguard did all those things? I thought they didn't show him on camera?

Was this on last nights show? If so, then how do we know that Jon doesn't have to put the house back in order? Editing?

We really do not know unless Jons tell us. But he he is not as uptight as Kate so my guess is as long as his tasty beverages & "nanny" is there he is copacetic.

 

[mhsjax]

I am really on the fence with Kate. Over all I really don't like her, but I am liking Jon even less, so I guess she is the lesser of two evils at this point. What I want to know is why she seems to stretch the truth about what she feeds her kids. I know she says she tries to eat organic and I believe her on that, but she says over and over again that she doesn't allow junk food. I have seen eggo waffles in her shopping cart and I have seen Ruffles potato chips in her cart as well. I am not judging because as we speak I have 3 different kinds of chips in my pantry, but for her to sit there yesterday and say her kids don't know what Doritios are when I have seen her kids eating chips in crazy.
It is her stretching of the truth and her sometimes holier than thou attitutude that bothers me. Oh and I guess marshmallow fluff because it was organic is ok, HELLO( as she says) it is still pure sugar and therefore junk food. Sorry for so many typos, haven't had first cup of non organic coffee yet

 

[longstangetrip]

Yes, I meant the ACT of farming organically provides no nutritional value. Obviously, the food is what it is. There have been tons of articles about this research over the last month and 1/2 or so. I don't care if one chooses to eat organic or not, but don't mistake that choice as eating healthy. I don't think Kate is very savy about nutrition. She said when they went to WDW in 07 that they had packed lots of vitamins and supplements (chemically processed in a lab) because they wouldn't be eating organic while on vacation and didn't want to get sick. huh? The Gosselin kids were also seen drinking cup after cup of Juicy Juice when it was free. Not good. A little juice, milk and lots of water. Never saw them drink milk; many times they even wanted their cereal dry. My kids have and do eat a bunch of junk. We just try to balance it out with plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables and as many foods as possible close to their original form! What part of the chicken does a nugget come from anyway?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/f...al-health-benefits-reveals-food-watchdog.html

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/30/2640448.htm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ea...ional-benefit-says-Food-Standards-Agency.html

 

[newtodis]

I don't think she looked like an idiot, I really don't. But I don't think she was ready for a full hour of live TV. She did turn every conversation around to being about her, that is true. I think her best moment was when she was speaking about the issue of having so many pregnancies & what it does to the body. She seemed poised and confident for those few seconds. Outside of that, it really was a non-event. Whoopi didn't really even address Kate or engage her in the conversations, Joy was only slightly more interested, and Sherry was the fan who doesn't even know how many kids Kate has.

I'm waiting until tomorrow before I decide whether or not I think Kate is talk show material. She may be, just not at this format. I don't think the pace was good for her, the focus wasn't on Kate, and she seemed really nervous and uncomfortable.

I'm sure the ratings for the show were through the roof, which may give the false impression that she was that good. I wonder if anyone is doing test marketing for Kate's appearance, like a focus group?

I did DVR The View yesterday (must have been before Disney???) so I got to watch last night! I think she did ok but kind of "watched" instead of jumping in and when she did it was sometimes hard to hear over the others so you couldn't tell what she was saying. It kind of looked like she was checking her cards a lot too - even during her interviews with Victoria Beckam - do they each have a list of points to bring up or questions to ask? I'm not sure how that works (I did watch the video this morning but still not 100% sure - I don't watch the View that often....). I also think that if she's trying to get into talk shows and such she might have been trying too hard to do and say the "right" things instead of just letting what she was thinking come out.

One thing I noticed though is that when she was talking to Dr Oz that she said something like (I can't recall the exact quote) "I'm organic, natural, blah blah blah". To me it sounded like the "brand" of Kate Gosselin - I think I would have said something like "I try to feed my kids healthy, organic foods.". Just the way she phrased it sounded like we should know her line from the grocery store or something like that.

I don't think today's show will be as interesting as I'm sure it will focus on Patrick Swazey's passing and I'm guessing Kate didn't know him any more than I did as opposed to someone like Whoopi.

Also, from the link this morning before the show, I thought it was REALLY weird that Kate said Leah looked at the pictures of her (Kate) in People - does that mean Kate's keeping these copies of the magazines??? Do they send you one if you're on the cover? I gues I would have thought regardless of if Kate's buying every one to keep them off the shelves that they wouldn't be out laying around for the kids to pick up and flip through.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/09/exclusive-jon-gosselin’s-girlfriend-meets-his-kids

I'd thought the kids - at least the twins - had met her before. It seems like awhile back the twins had commented on her clothes or something like that according to Jon.

Why is Jon 'Octodad' which is a negative connotation/designation thanks to Nayda, but Kate is not Octomom1.0? Does make you wonder. IMO, all of them are equal in the world of marketing kids for money. Nayda's kids have the laws of CA on their side however, so they may in fact be better off.

There have been articles that referred to Kate as an "octomom" as well - it's not just directed towards Jon.

Do you have a link to support this? How is it possible that organic food has no nutritional value I have a garden but without pesticides it has no nutritional value? Why?

Did you ever wonder why Chinese drink only hot tea? They boil it to kill the bacteria. Most local Chinese farming uses organic methods, in that the only fertilizers used are human and animal waste: Without being boiled, it's basically a nice cup of E. coli. In the case of China and other poor Asian nations, the reason for organic farming has less to do with ideology and more to do with lack of access to modern farming technology.
The National Review reports that Americans believe organic food is healthier by a 2-1 margin, despite the lack of any evidence supporting this. When you take the exact same strain of a plant and grow it in two different ways, its chemical and genetic makeup remain the same. One may be larger than the other if one growing method was more efficient, but its fundamental makeup and biochemical content is defined by its genes, not by the way it was grown. Consumer Reports found no consistent difference in appearance, flavor, or texture. A blanket statement like "organic cultivation results in a crop with superior nutritional value" has no logical or factual basis.
Some supporters of organic growing claim that the danger of non-organic food lies in the residues of chemical pesticides. This claim is even more ridiculous: Since the organic pesticides and fungicides are less efficient than their modern synthetic counterparts, up to seven times as much of it must be used. Organic pesticides include rotenone, which has been shown to cause the symptoms of Parkinson's Disease and is a natural poison used in hunting by some native tribes; pyrethrum, which is carcinogenic; sabadilla, which is highly toxic to honeybees; and fermented urine, which I don't want on my food whether it causes any diseases or not. Supporters of organics claim that the much larger amounts of chemicals they use is OK because those chemicals are all-natural. But just because something is natural doesn't mean that it's safe or healthy — consider the examples of hemlock, mercury, lead, toadstools, box jellyfish neurotoxin, asbestos — not to mention a nearly infinite number of toxic bacteria and viruses (E. coli, salmonella, bubonic plague, smallpox). When you hear any product claim to be healthy because its ingredients are all natural, be skeptical. By no definition can "all natural" mean that a product is healthful.
Consider the logical absurdity proposed by those who claim conventional growers produce less healthful food. To the organically minded, conventional growers are evil greedy corporations interested only in their profit margin. What's the best way to improve the profit margin? To buy less pesticides and fertilizer. This means they must use far more advanced and efficient products. The idea that pesticides leave dangerous residues is many decades out of date. Food production is among the most regulated and scrutinized of processes, and today's synthetic pesticides and fertilizers are completely biodegradable. They're supported by decades of studies that demonstrate their total safety.
In the United States, 2006 brought two major outbreaks of E. coli, both resulting in deaths and numerous illnesses, ultimately traced to organically grown spinach and lettuce. According to the Center for Global Food Issues, organic foods make up about 1% of all the food sold in the United States, but it accounts for 8% of E. coli cases.

http://preesi.lefora.com/2009/09/04/more-organic-food-nonsense/page1/

I'm sure - as with anything - you can find the research that supports your thoughts and beliefs (general you - not you! .

Wow -- that was very interesting to watch. She was totally not like that on the show today.

She was briefed? Sure didn't help much.

She seemed much more relaxed. Like I said before, I think she kind of got "caught up" yesterday like always looking for a spot to get her points in from her cards.

I guess, ultimately, the arrangement would be made between whoever has contracted the security company to work with the Gosselins and the security company. There have been other guards with the family. Whatever works for them. I just thought it looked funny to see Steve walking behind Kate holding a flimsy garment bag. Not terribly menacing from a security standpoint. LOL.

I'm sure you're right, though. I'd say he can jump into protection mode very quickly!

On the way home from Disney we stopped at a rest stop in FL. There was a "security guy" who was about 80 years old and could hardly walk. DH asked if I thought the guy could take him out. My guess is he'd skip the chasing part and just shoot you - lots less energy! I'd take Steve over him any day!

In any case, Kate does seem to know the difference between junk food and organic..she says she tries to stay organic and not feed her family a lot of junk food. Who knows how long that will last now.

Yes she does seem to know and enforce the healthy habits - hopefully that's something consistant regardless of who they're with.

I don't know that they'd be able to continue to eat organic as it's very expensive especially for such a large family.

 

[Buckalew11]

I thought it was interesting how the man who was briefing her and asking those questions beforehand was saying that she needed to talk--to jump in there and talk because it is so easy for a guest co-host to start watching which it seemed sort of havppened yesterday. HOWEVER, I think it would be hard to sit there with 3 other women who are talking over one another, interrupting, etc. etc. (one of the things most people hate about watching The View) and jump in while everyone is yacking. I can see how that would easily happen. And then you have Whoopi, who when she speaks thinks her is the most imprtant and the end of the discussion, Joy joking and putting in her 2 cents (0r .10 maybe) and Sherri who doesn't seem to even know what she is saying. Ugh.

newtodis, my DH tells the story of entering college as a strapping 18yo smart a$$ who upon meeting the 60+ yo security guard, mouthed off to the man and made a smart remark about being able to outrun him etc. etc. Next thing DH knew, he was pinned to the ground! He didn't even remember how he got there, LOL. The old man took him down so quickly. 25 years later, he and that ol' man still carry on a wonderful friendship! I love that story!

 

[DMRick]

I did DVR The View yesterday (must have been before Disney???) so I got to watch last night! I think she did ok but kind of "watched" instead of jumping in

I wonder if she was doing what they told her not to do in the briefing..watching the show LOL.

One thing I noticed though is that when she was talking to Dr Oz that she said something like (I can't recall the exact quote) "I'm organic, natural, blah blah blah". To me it sounded like the "brand" of Kate Gosselin - I think I would have said something like "I try to feed my kids healthy, organic foods.". Just the way she phrased it sounded like we should know her line from the grocery store or something like that.

I agree..that would have been a better way to put it.

Also, from the link this morning before the show, I thought it was REALLY weird that Kate said Leah looked at the pictures of her (Kate) in People - does that mean Kate's keeping these copies of the magazines???

I hope not. I hope she just saw the picture..as in a copy of the picture, not the magazine.

The National Review reports that Americans believe organic food is healthier by a 2-1 margin

I never thought it was nutritionally better, but I do know with the reseach my family has done, the lack of chemicals seems to be very important when you have auto-immune diseases. But I'm sure everyone can find something for and against.

 

[redrosesix]

i'm guessing it's additional nutritional value as well.

i will suggest as someone who lives around (now) lots of people who sell items at farmer's markets as 'organic' and having lived in an area with "organic" commercial farms, that people, esp. those with allergies and health issues such that "organic" needs to mean for them truly devoid of chemicals and pesticides: realy research the source of your products. an organic farm that is adjacent to a non organic that engages in crop dusting pesticides does have exposure (we can/could see the pesticides wafting onto the organic fields) or shared water sources (the weed control board monitors and requires myself and my immediate neighbors to use certain chemicals which do contaminate the ground water which many of my organic farming/livestock raising neighbors use for their products). i'm sure there are large scale operators that use some types of water filtration and purification mechanisms but those local to me that sell at farmer's markets or to specialty stores do not appear to do so.


buyer beware.

We're really lucky here in that we have a system which certifies farms as organic -- they look at all of the issues you mentioned and then some. It really takes the guess work out of it for us.

But it's also an occupational safety issue where we live too, especially where we spend our summers -- people are pretty happy that we don't have so many chemicals floating around in the air while we're producing food for other people to consume. So we try to support the organic farms. Pesticides and weed killers have also been banned in the city where we live.

I am really on the fence with Kate. Over all I really don't like her, but I am liking Jon even less, so I guess she is the lesser of two evils at this point. What I want to know is why she seems to stretch the truth about what she feeds her kids. I know she says she tries to eat organic and I believe her on that, but she says over and over again that she doesn't allow junk food. I have seen eggo waffles in her shopping cart and I have seen Ruffles potato chips in her cart as well. I am not judging because as we speak I have 3 different kinds of chips in my pantry, but for her to sit there yesterday and say her kids don't know what Doritios are when I have seen her kids eating chips in crazy.
It is her stretching of the truth and her sometimes holier than thou attitutude that bothers me. Oh and I guess marshmallow fluff because it was organic is ok, HELLO( as she says) it is still pure sugar and therefore junk food. Sorry for so many typos, haven't had first cup of non organic coffee yet

ITA! She makes it sound like her kids eat better than mine. They don't.

One thing I noticed though is that when she was talking to Dr Oz that she said something like (I can't recall the exact quote) "I'm organic, natural, blah blah blah". To me it sounded like the "brand" of Kate Gosselin - I think I would have said something like "I try to feed my kids healthy, organic foods.". Just the way she phrased it sounded like we should know her line from the grocery store or something like that.

Also, from the link this morning before the show, I thought it was REALLY weird that Kate said Leah looked at the pictures of her (Kate) in People - does that mean Kate's keeping these copies of the magazines??? Do they send you one if you're on the cover? I gues I would have thought regardless of if Kate's buying every one to keep them off the shelves that they wouldn't be out laying around for the kids to pick up and flip through.

IMO, Kate won't be able to do a talk show like The View or Ellen -- it doesn't sound like she's interested in what other people have to say, and often sounds like she thinks she knows more than they do. It may not be the case, but it comes off that way. Even Martha Stewart is better at not trying to upstage her guests.

And I'm really shocked about the magazine issue. And we were worried about the kids' friends telling them what their mom said about their dad in those articles.

I do wonder, though, how long Kate will be able to stand having to 'put the house back in order' after Jon's stays. (I know that I would hate that, and would probably be grumbling....loudly! )

Well, now that they're no longer together he can run the house however he likes when it is his time. Yes, she would hate that since she was used to having everything her way even when he was there every day. But IMO, she shouldn't necessarily plan to have full custody of the kids and the house to herself just yet -- he was a SAHD so this may not be a case where the mother automatically gets the kids even if she asks for full custody.

But sadly, I don't think that Kate would be willing to work with Jon to come up with ways to do things that they can both agree on ie. it's her way or the highway, probably now more than ever. IMO, they're going to spend a lot of time in court negotiating everything down to the smallest detail.