Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[LoraJ]

Are they actually divorced or is it not yet final?

Inquiring minds want to know.......

Not final yet.

 

[GeorgiaPeach8]

I agree with pp--Jon has been checking out the local high school for fashion advice. And let me tell you--it is NO place to find fashion. I teach about 150 kids per year and I might have 1 or 2 that I look at and think--boy I wish I'd been that put together in HS. The rest are always near misses--the wrong shoes with the wrong purse, etc.

ITA with Madge--Kate has some fashion misses. Mostly in the dress department but I think that is just taste. I LOVE to shop at Gymboree for my kids and my kids often have on some of the pieces Kate has selected for hers but she almost always goes for a dress or one of the pieces I didn't like. I can see her love for dresses reflected in what she picks for the girls--especially the little ones.

I thought Mady looked adorable at the concert. Very hip! Cara on the other hand looks dowdy--shhh! hope no one tells her And Cara seems to always look miserable lately. Mady, on the other hand, seems like she is handling all the changes better especially compared to where Mady was a few years ago.

ITA with PP about whoever the blonde was with the girls. It isn't so much the tabloid pixs but I would be really worried about my child's safety. Especially because the atomosphere at these tweeny concerts is a little crazy.

 

[MichelleVW]

''They already are seeing a psychologist for counseling, who is trying to help them understand their parents' split is not their fault,'' said the source.



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http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/zwecker/1682622,CST-FTR-zp24.article

OT, but my loser ex told my girls who were 7 and 9 at the time that the divorce WAS their fault and if they had done more maybe I wouldn't have left him!!

Reality TV mom Kate Gosselin and her twins get the luxury treatment at the Jonas Brothers show in Philadelphia on Thursday night.

Slideshows: Images Of The Gosselin Estate | Gosselin Top 10 Freebies

Gosselin, the twins and two of the twin's friends took a stretch limo from Berks County to the Wachovia Center to watch the red-hot tween band perform.

By all accounts, the Gosselins were treated like stars and posed for a few photos for the paparazzi.

One person who Twittered about meeting Kate Gosselin called her “super pretty.”

There was no word if the Gosselins paid for their tickets, or if the visit was filmed by TLC camera crews.

Jon Gosselin was believed to be back at the family's estate in Wernersville, Pa., along with a TLC film crew and the couple's sextuplets.

Part of this article: http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/entertainment/television/072409_Jon_Gosselin_dating_scandal

Ok...more OT, but I hate when they call the Jo Bros a "Tween" band...I bought their new cd and I'm far from a tween!!

 

[3prettyprincesses]

OT, but my loser ex told my girls who were 7 and 9 at the time that the divorce WAS their fault and if they had done more maybe I wouldn't have left him!!

Ok...more OT, but I hate when they call the Jo Bros a "Tween" band...I bought their new cd and I'm far from a tween!!

That is really awful. I can't believe an adult would do something like that to his children. I hope your girls didnt believe him. Oh, I'm just so disgusted. Divorce is difficult for children but to say that it was their fault is beyond low and scummy. Sorry for the rant, but I just hate to hear that kind of stuff. Glad you've moved on though and are happily married! Hey, where's the latest pic of your dog? It's been a while since we've seen one!

As far as the Jonas Bros. go, some of their songs are just dang catchy! I find myself singing along and my girls think it's hilarious! But then again I like the HSM soundtrack too! Aren't I hip and current?

 

[OhMari]

finally dd and friends said the one twin (they don't really know thier names, but they said that it was the one who looks more asian, which is Maddy) was crying terrible because she had to go to the bathroom in the middle of the concert and the mom would not take her she cried for about 5 minutes before finally she was taken to the bathroom

I'm sure she had to go, but at that age, she wants her mom's attention.
My dh boss took his dd's and his niece 18 to the Jonas Brother's concert in Milwaukee. He told my dh that he couldn't believe the "banchy" momma's yelling and screaming and having more fun than their daughters. He also said he saw a lot of them. which sort of surprised him.

If Maddy is having thirst/bathroom problems, I sure hope they would check her out for juvenile diabetes. I'm not starting any rumor's, but I sure would check it out if she were my child.

 

[MichelleVW]

That is really awful. I can't believe an adult would do something like that to his children. I hope your girls didnt believe him. Oh, I'm just so disgusted. Divorce is difficult for children but to say that it was their fault is beyond low and scummy. Sorry for the rant, but I just hate to hear that kind of stuff. Glad you've moved on though and are happily married! Hey, where's the latest pic of your dog? It's been a while since we've seen one!

As far as the Jonas Bros. go, some of their songs are just dang catchy! I find myself singing along and my girls think it's hilarious! But then again I like the HSM soundtrack too! Aren't I hip and current?

My ex was horrible. He would tell the kids awful horrible things and they would tell me about it. If I would tell the loser what the kids told me he would deny it then yell at the girls later about them telling me. It was a lose/lose situation for me. If I confronted him about it, he would yell at them later about it and then they would not tell me other things that went on. He was hateful and scary. It was awful for all of us....I lost about 20 pounds or so because he made me so sick to my stomach all the time....he also got physically abusive towards me when I told him I wanted out. It was all verbal abuse before then. At one point I was holding DD16 (who was 6 at the time) trying to leave the room and he was mad at me and tried to stop me from leaving my choking me. Oh wait...he said he wasn't trying to choke me he just had his hands around my neck. He got mad when I went to the lawyer on base to see about a divorce because the lawyer saw all the bruises I had on my arms....uh hello, if he hadn't of hit me the bruises would not have been there...

Thankfully now I have a wonderful husband that the kids adore. DD16 was totally jealous of him when we started to date and was just awful to him, but thankfully she got over it and now they are good buddies. Tuesday night the two of them went to the Rangers/Red Sox game together and that would have NEVER happened in the beginning.

Here's my big boy Jonas!!! He's about 4 1/2 months old and 25 pounds. He's all legs which is funny because he is part corgi and they have no legs!!!

 

[3prettyprincesses]

My ex was horrible. He would tell the kids awful horrible things and they would tell me about it. If I would tell the loser what the kids told me he would deny it then yell at the girls later about them telling me. It was a lose/lose situation for me. If I confronted him about it, he would yell at them later about it and then they would not tell me other things that went on. He was hateful and scary. It was awful for all of us....I lost about 20 pounds or so because he made me so sick to my stomach all the time....he also got physically abusive towards me when I told him I wanted out. It was all verbal abuse before then. At one point I was holding DD16 (who was 6 at the time) trying to leave the room and he was mad at me and tried to stop me from leaving my choking me. Oh wait...he said he wasn't trying to choke me he just had his hands around my neck. He got mad when I went to the lawyer on base to see about a divorce because the lawyer saw all the bruises I had on my arms....uh hello, if he hadn't of hit me the bruises would not have been there...

Thankfully now I have a wonderful husband that the kids adore. DD16 was totally jealous of him when we started to date and was just awful to him, but thankfully she got over it and now they are good buddies. Tuesday night the two of them went to the Rangers/Red Sox game together and that would have NEVER happened in the beginning.

Here's my big boy Jonas!!! He's about 4 1/2 months old and 25 pounds. He's all legs which is funny because he is part corgi and they have no legs!!!

I'm so sorry to hear what you went through. Wow, it sounds like a nightmare. Thank God you got out. What a horrible mess for you and your daughters. You must have been terrified! What is wrong with people?? Geez, that is just insane. I just get so riled up when I hear about an idiot parent making his kids feel the divorce was their fault. My parents divorced when I was young and it was a huge mess and took years for me to accept. Now it's all good but it took some time to get to that point. Anyhow, I think it's wonderful you have a DH you adore now and that your girls accept. And the pic of Jonas is adorable as usual! When I see cute pics like that, I so want to run out and get a puppy!

Oh, to keep this on topic I'll say that I think the Gosselin's dogs are adorable too!

 

[kidshop]

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Makes you wonder if Kate went "hard" because he was a child that wouldn't/couldn't take on the role of adult. Maybe the way she is now is a direct result of him not standing up and her having to take on that role. You can see by her recent comments that she just will have to do things that she didn't have to do before - seems to me like she would have done that before. I don't agree with how she spoke to him before, but in retrospect if this is any indication of what the "real" Jon is like I wouldn't be surprised if her personality was a result of his personality. Know what I mean??

Anyhoo - the PR guy is I think a tad late in the game and I doubt if he can fix this for Jon... I think he is very immature and really just stupid - didn't he realize that all of these people are out for personal gain from him? What a dummy......

Just my rambling thoughts....

Based on what I have read, kate has been the way she is forever. The locals have reports of her as a nurse and before the kids were born and nothing has changed. I have not read one thing that ever said she was nice or gracious or pleasant. anyway, I thought the consenus was that adults are responsible for their own behavior, other people can't make you act a certain way? Or does that only apply to Jon?

I dislike them both equally for what they are doing to their kids.

 

[newtodis]

OT, but my loser ex told my girls who were 7 and 9 at the time that the divorce WAS their fault and if they had done more maybe I wouldn't have left him!!

Seriously - if my DH said something like that he wouldn't be around to be my DH.... So sorry you and your kiddos had to deal with that!

The only thing that surprises me about this post is that Jon has actually introduced the kids to Hailey waaaaaayyyy too soooooonnnn. But knowing the tabloids, that may not be true -- I can't imagine a time when she would have.

I'm not surprised that by all accounts Kate is dishing Jon with the kids -- that is all too common in divorce, and she just doesn't seem like the type who would avoid doing it at all costs. It's not ok, but it's not surprising. Remember she did start the publicity war by doing the People article before the divorce was even announced.

I think it's crazy too and I wonder how Jon introduced the kids to her. I would think Mady and Cara are old enough to understand (at a really basic level) what's going on (mommy and daddy's divorce, Deanna now Hailey now Kate 2.0) and it's got to be a bit shaky for them at best. I'm thinking that if the family were as close to the Gosselins as everyone's saying, maybe the kids already met Hailey just in passing previously (I thought I'd read somewhere the twins had met her before). That's what makes me wonder how she was introduced (by either Jon or Kate or Hailey herself who seems to want to scream from the rooftops that she's in love with Jon) and they reaction the kids had.

I'm sure if the kids asked Kate had to address it somehow. Nothing she says will be "right" right now. I just hope she's not bashing Jon - he's still their daddy despite being a bone head. They'll be able to make their own decisions about the whole thing soon enough.

A source told Star, "Kate told the kids that Hailey is gross because she smokes and drinks and that she makes Daddy do bad things too."

From this article: http://www.timesoftheinternet.com/94851.html

I guess if that's the worst thing that Kate says about Hailey that's not that bad really in the grand scheme of everything. Smoking is gross and both can be bad for you if you're doing them too often. She could have been responding to a question from the kids - especially if the kids had met Hailey. I'm sure Jon and Hailey were out for a smoke break and the kids asked where they were or something and that was Kate's answer. Was it the "right" one? I don't know.....I haven't been there so I don't know how I'd answer.

My ex was horrible. Thankfully now I have a wonderful husband that the kids adore.

Here's my big boy Jonas!!! He's about 4 1/2 months old and 25 pounds. He's all legs which is funny because he is part corgi and they have no legs!!!

Hey Michelle - Glad things are better now!

Little Jonas is getting so big! He's adorable with that stick in his mouth!

 

[Mom2Nick]

I'm sure if the kids asked Kate had to address it somehow. Nothing she says will be "right" right now. I just hope she's not bashing Jon - he's still their daddy despite being a bone head. They'll be able to make their own decisions about the whole thing soon enough.

Kate badmouthed Jon to the kids and others that were around when they were married. I cannot imagine that she had suddenly done a 180 and is now being silent about her feelings for Jon around the kids.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Kate badmouthed Jon to the kids and others that were around when they were married. I cannot imagine that she had suddenly done a 180 and is now being silent about her feelings for Jon around the kids.

And Jon never did, right? Remember when he told Kate (with the kids around) to take the stick out of her butt? Or how about when he yelled at her (with the kids around) at the hotel room on the way to Disney? He told her she was completely incapable of helping him. Or how about when he jokes with people on the show (ie that green episode guy with the solar panels) about Kate being horrible? Or how about all the mocking faces he made behind Kate's back? He's not innocent either.

 

[Mom2Nick]

And Jon never did, right? Remember when he told Kate (with the kids around) to take the stick out of her butt? Or how about when he yelled at her (with the kids around) at the hotel room on the way to Disney? He told her she was completely incapable of helping him. Or how about when he jokes with people on the show (ie that green episode guy with the solar panels) about Kate being horrible? Or how about all the mocking faces he made behind Kate's back? He's not innocent either.

Must have missed the part where I said he was innocent.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Must have missed the part where I said he was innocent.

I didn't say you said that. I was just pointing out that Jon could give it too. IMO it's not healthy for either of them to treat each other that way, badmouthing or mocking especially in front of their kids. I'm sure they (especially the twins) picked up on it.

 

[whitneyNC]

I hate hearing the reports of the kids not seeming to enjoy the concert. The pics sure did not show them looking happy or excited. Dad in box seats beside theirs; how weird. They are nearly nine, how embarrassing to be crying over the bathroom in front of the friend. I wish they appeared to be happy doing something with their mom at least sometimes. I have seen them looking happy and relaxed with Jon. I don't know why this seems to be the case. I hope it's only the way it looks in all of these crazy pics. If things are how the appear, boy are they going to have interesting middle school years. Cara sure looks grown up. They are such pretty girls.

 

[MM27]

Do you know who their friend is?

I don't know if anyone answered yet because I'm not all caught up, but that girl that went with Mady and Cara is the same girl that was at the sextuplets birthday party. I think she's a friend from school.

 

[whitneyNC]

Kate badmouthed Jon to the kids and others that were around when they were married. I cannot imagine that she had suddenly done a 180 and is now being silent about her feelings for Jon around the kids.

ITA, she never seemed to filter for the sake of his feelings or the kids feelings toward Jon before the split and likely isn't talking nicely about him now.

For those of you who always say "he gave it too," what should he have done after ten + years of her talking to him the way we all saw on TV? When you are immasculated, demeaned, degraded in front of your kids, people at a toy store, the tv audience, the camera crew, friends, etc., what should one do? I don't know. I have never heard a woman talk to her husband the way Kate did, and would be totally humiliated (for him) if I did.

I think if the tables had been turned and we saw Jon talk about Kate's weight, hair loss, inabilities to breath right, put the kids down for a nap, stay where he wanted her while shopping, load the van, etc. People would have yelled "verbal abuse." Can you IMAGINE an episode where Jon encourages solicits, lines up, and takes Kate for cosmetic surgery that she really doesn't seem that keen on?! (Like the hair plugs). People would have gone crazy!

Yes, I think he's lost his marbles and has handled this whole dating thing completely inappropriately. I feel sorry for the kids to have gone from parents married and fighting and being documented on TV, to this.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

OT, but my loser ex told my girls who were 7 and 9 at the time that the divorce WAS their fault and if they had done more maybe I wouldn't have left him!!



Ok...more OT, but I hate when they call the Jo Bros a "Tween" band...I bought their new cd and I'm far from a tween!!

How awful, what a jerk! I am so sorry you and your children had to endure such abuse.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I hate hearing the reports of the kids not seeming to enjoy the concert. The pics sure did not show them looking happy or excited. Dad in box seats beside theirs; how weird.

Actually, the poster that said Jon was there later said that she was mistaken and it was just Kate and the girls.

 

[madge]

Actually, those are different yellow dresses.

I don't think they are different .. although I could be mistaken. A lot of Gymboree's lines look very similar.

The dress is from the Lady Daisy (2008) line:

here's a picture from Saturday:
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20292151,00.html

and the older picture:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/the...kate-major-tricked-jon-gosselin-shocking.html

 

[momrek06]

I thought Mady looked adorable at the concert. Very hip! Cara on the other hand looks dowdy--shhh! hope no one tells her

I agree! That was a cute outift..esp for a concert with the JB! So can I ask..someone posted on here that one of the twins is more asian...which one is that? And is Cara taller than Mady?


As far as outfits go...I personally think that Kate has done a great job dressing the 'tups. They always look so adorable and Kate seems to co-ordinate the boys polos/t's with the girls sundresses.