Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[happygirl]

http://justjared.buzznet.com/galler...selin-belly&pic=jon-gosselin-belly-rub-06.jpg

In this pic does Jon still have his wedding ring on?

 

[happygirl]

http://justjared.buzznet.com/galler...r&pic=jon-kate-gosselin-together-again-05.jpg

I would have kicked his butt as we walked past

 

[momrek06]

Sources tell RadarOnline.com that Kate doesn’t want Jon’s new girlfriend anywhere near her kids. Hailey has a previous arrest for multiple drug charges

I wouldn't want her around my children either. In fact, at this point I wouldn't want his girlfriend around my children no matter what she was like. Give the kids some time to adjust.

Interesting article I read online:


Criminal Record - Stigma For Life
By Michael Russell
If you've ever been convicted of a crime, no matter how small, you know the stigma that you carry with you because of that conviction. Unfortunately, even something as minor as a shoplifting charge or disorderly conduct conviction can make life difficult in so many areas.

Probably the area where a criminal record has the most impact is in applying for and getting a job. While there are laws against discrimination, and yes, not hiring somebody because of a past criminal offence is considered discrimination, these laws are constantly being broken and are almost impossible to prove.

If you look at any typical job application there is almost always a section that asks if you've ever been arrested or convicted of a crime other than a motor vehicle offence. Many ex-convicts are hesitant to fill out this section because they are afraid that it will cost them the job. Ultimately, it doesn't matter because if the employer checks, the conviction will turn up unless it was while the person was a juvenile, in which case the records are sealed. If ever there is a question of whether or not discrimination occurred the employer will always fall back on the standard answer, "There were other applicants more qualified". Yes, discrimination against an ex-convict is very hard to prove.

Gaining employment isn't the only place where an ex-convict has problems. There is the social aspect of his or her life that probably gets the biggest beating. Imagine a guy meeting a nice girl, taking her out for a drink or maybe dinner, they get to talking and the girl asks what he's been doing with himself. Now if he's been out of prison for a long period of time this can be fairly easy to get around. But if he's just been newly released from jail and has been out of society for a while getting around the issue is close to impossible.

In the same situation, hardened criminals who have been serving a long sentence and are just not used to being in society, have a hard time fitting in as it is. Their appearance will be different from most. Their actions will seem strange. They will seem ill at ease with their surroundings. This isn't opinion. There are studies that show how difficult it is for an ex-convict to get back into normal society. Ultimately, the girl will either find out he was in prison or he will have to tell her. Studies show that the percentage of relationships that actually succeed under these conditions is very small. In most cases the girl will break it off as gently as possible.

There is an old saying that goes, "Once a con always a con". While this isn't always true, unfortunately, it is the perception of most people. We have a very hard time trusting somebody who has been convicted of a crime. Why? Simple. If they stole or injured or did something unlawful once, what's to say they won't do it again? In our troubled world as it is, it's hard to know who to trust, even if they don't have a record. Certainly someone who has already gone down that road can't be a good risk for getting into a relationship with.

Yes, unfortunately as much as we like to think of ourselves as a forgiving species, having a criminal record is usually a walking death sentence for ever having a normal life again.

 

[Buckalew11]

Yes, but it is an old picture of him.

He does have a thing for rubbing his big belly though. One finger in his belly button, lol. ewwww

 

[JBurke]

http://justjared.buzznet.com/galler...selin-belly&pic=jon-gosselin-belly-rub-06.jpg

In this pic does Jon still have his wedding ring on?

Sure looks like it. Maybe its some new Ed Hardy promise ring or something

Since we have determined Jon is a dog, maybe he has fleas and thats why he keeps scratching his belly.

Never been a Kate fan, but the photos of her packing up and leaving make me sad. The whole sharing the house thing is weird.

 

[DreaGirl]

OK TLC this is supposed to be a "reality show". In what reality does a divorcing couple with issues like this - him flying off to Europe with a 22 year old, holding hands, declaring he is dating her and "moving on" - come together so they can film another episode and it look normal? If I was her I wouldn't want to be in the same state with him let alone the same front yard. The tension must be massive and you know the kids can sense it.

This is how I feel too.

Some of those pics are so sad. He's home less than a day and he can't stay off the phone. Hey Jon, she had you for a whole week, give the kids a turn now

If you look at pictures of Kate with the kids she is also on the phone a lot. Just the other day when they had a picnic the kids were eating and she was checking her phone (checking this thread I'm sure. ). They both can't seem to disconnect and enjoy their kids.

Sure looks like it. Maybe its some new Ed Hardy promise ring or something

Since we have determined Jon is a dog, maybe he has fleas and thats why he keeps scratching his belly.

 

[Hollywoodhaha]

always thought that she had reasons to be aggravated with him on the show because he’s like a lazy, man-boy who refuses to accept his age. Seriously. He’s behaving like a raving idiot. You’d think he’d show a TAD bit of respect (for his kids at least) and not flaunt a relationship with some gross looking 22 year old.



That was a comment on the just jared boards and I 100% agree with it.

 

[purplegirl247]

To me, brushing the dog outside just makes good sense. (1) As someone mentioned, she'd definitely a neat freak and brushing outside means the fur doesn't stay inside. (2) We've already determined that the kids like to be outside riding their bikes and such, so if she's going to keep an eye on them, that's where she'd be too.

I guess it can be said that we've never seen her brush them before, but Jon was around before, so maybe he did it. Or maybe she did do it and the paps just weren't around to capture it. It's only fairly recently that they've started camping out outside the house; for years and years the Gosselins just had the tv show, without us really seeing them any other time, y'know?

 

[madge]

Well, It doesn't appear that Kate is going to hang out with Jon for filming. Here is a link to a story on Radaronline that shows her leaving.... http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/kate-gosselin-packs-leaves-home

and, as we all expected and completely agree with ... Kate doesn't want Jon's new friend around the children:

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/entertainment/television/071609_jon_gosselin_kate_gosselin

 

[purplegirl247]

Well, It doesn't appear that Kate is going to hang out with Jon for filming. Here is a link to a story on Radaronline that shows her leaving.... http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/kate-gosselin-packs-leaves-home

Awww, that main pic of her holding Cara (I think it's Cara) close with the big ol' suitcase next to them is just heart-wrenching! Such a sad situation for the kids.

 

[madge]

Nothing she can say or do..darned if she does, darned if she doesn't.

you're exactly right... and it's been that way for a long time. add Jon to that statement, too. He's certainly no different than Kate. They've opened their lives up to the world, and this is the result.

I had no idea pointing out that something seen in the blogs turning up in pictures (again) would create so much discussion.

 

[madge]

Awww, that main pic of her holding Cara (I think it's Cara) close with the big ol' suitcase next to them is just heart-wrenching! Such a sad situation for the kids.

I think it's Mady, and I agree. This is the part of the story that's so sad. Those sweet children. They certainly didn't ask for this at all.

and as a side note: if anyone reads these boards and blogs looking for something to take a picture of ... please buy some bike helmets for those children! ugh!

 

[momrek06]

Awww, that main pic of her holding Cara (I think it's Cara) close with the big ol' suitcase next to them is just heart-wrenching! Such a sad situation for the kids.

I agree.

 

[madge]

Us Weekly


People Magazine

 

[madge]

In Touch

Star Magazine

National Enquirer

 

[tinkgurl]

Us Weekly


People Magazine

In Touch

Star Magazine

National Enquirer

Thanks for those!

 

[GeorgiaPeach8]

Wow those pixs of Jon and Hailey in US Weekly are just gross. It is really disappointing that some men have a hard time seeing when they look absolutely idiotic. Really, another Ed Hardy shirt? Maybe Ed Hardy can donate some shorts too...I think he has worn those tan cargo ones all summer.

My brother has a German Shepherd mix and my mom always makes him brush it outside. He often does this on days when he is watching my kiddos--as an overlap.

I thought the photos of Kate leaving were just so sad. But I think in light of the shear number of kids and the amount of stuff they would need to pack for a traditional custody arraignment, the kids having costody of the house is the best solution. Although, it seems like neither adult will have a "home" which would be really hard.

 

[kidshop]

I can find no actual facts on if this is from her PR people. And of course as usual, we would not want to give Kate any of the credit for laying back and just being a good mom. No, doesn't matter what she does, it's never because she does love the kids and is doing what she thinks is best for them..which is keeping quiet right now. I'm not so sure I could, no matter what my PR people may say. But Kate can never win, even when it's Jon all over the mags. She's at fault even when she does nothing LOL.
I have no idea if it's PR or Kate..but I'll save the judging until I know for sure. Until I see the pictures of her out partying, I'll hold back on if it's PR and assume she is trying to do what is best for the situation.

Kate has to keep quiet right now, they have 45 days where they don't talk about each other. kate gave the last People interview about the divorce about a second after it happened and 2 seconds before they decided to keep things 'private'. When the 45 days are up we will see if she keeps quiet still, we will see what kind of person she is. She has talked about Jon a lot so far (publicly), and Jon has said nothing about Kate...yet. time will tell how ugly it will get. I think they both should keep quiet for another 45 months!

 

[purplegirl247]

I've been thinking about it, and technically, Kate traveled quite a bit when she was on her book tour. So while it will be hard to explain to the kids that she isn't working (I wonder how honest they'll be to the tups, btw; it would be so much harder to explain to them why it's different when Mommy is leaving this time and where she's going), at least they won't be totally taken aback, like when she first started travelling.

 

[lilybrooke14]

I read this thread a lot, but I don't post often. I find the whole scenario vile. The pictures of Kate leaving are terribly sad. Poor kids. I've been back and forth on being a fan of Kate. At the moment though, I think she's well rid of him. Her next journey is going to be keeping the little girl he's shacking up with away from her children. I wish her luck in that.