Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[Disneynut5]

I can't defend him anymore either BUT everyone involved has stated he did not cheat on Kate. He did leave her (although she filed for divorce), and her treatment of him was probably a big reason. They are no longer together since the filing for sure, so he can date anyone of legal age and it is not cheating.

eta: this wasn't directed at you, but to the posters who keep saying he cheated and how kate couldn't make him cheat no matter how awful she was etc. They are both awful for the record.

I completely disagree. Ask any of those 8 kids if Mommy and Daddy are still married and they would say "yes." They still see Kate with her wedding ring on. Most children hope that their parents will get back together even after the divorce is announced to them. They need transition time and Jon is not giving it to them. Yes, this is hurtful to Kate but it is just plain wrong to do to those children. They are NOT legally divorced yet!

And to me it does not matter how Kate treated Jon or how Jon treated Kate - neither of those justify cheating. If your marriage has MAJOR issues you work on them, not cheat or give up, or start acting like a drunk college student...I truly believe that Kate wanted to work on their issues but Jon wanted out so he could go have FUN! I have zero respect for him adn I really hope that someday Kate finds a real man that will show those children what an ADULT father with integrity acts like!

 

[LoveDopey]

Let's hope we can get Jon to never show us his round, pregnant looking belly again.

Yeah, no more belly. It's bad enough I have to see that at home....

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I can't defend him anymore either BUT everyone involved has stated he did not cheat on Kate. He did leave her (although she filed for divorce), and her treatment of him was probably a big reason. They are no longer together since the filing for sure, so he can date anyone of legal age and it is not cheating.

eta: this wasn't directed at you, but to the posters who keep saying he cheated and how kate couldn't make him cheat no matter how awful she was etc. They are both awful for the record.

After seeing the latest pics, I think Jon most definitely cheated, but that really doesn't matter. What matters now is him not thinking of his children or putting them first. How about giving them time to adjust to mommy & daddy getting divorced before being photographed holding the hand of another woman?

I remember when my parents divorced and my mother introducing me to her boyfriend all within one week. Parents seperating or divorcing is painful enough without adding some else to the mix. Odds are that Mady & Cara have seen the photos of him holding this girl's hand or heard about it. It is just incredibly selfish to even take the chance. But Jon is all about being Jon.

 

[katieam1]

After seeing the latest pics, I think Jon most definitely cheated, but that really doesn't matter. What matters now is him not thinking of his children or putting them first. How about giving them time to adjust to mommy & daddy getting divorced before being photographed holding the hand of another woman?
Parents seperating or divorcing is painful enough without adding some else to the mix. Odds are that Mady & Cara have seen the photos of him holding this girl's hand or heard about it. It is just incredibly selfish to even take the chance. But Jon is all about being Jon.

I totally agree with you!!!
He does seem to be all about himself. Even the pics from around there home he is out playing while who knows where the kids are. Maybe he is different inside the house?

 

[momrek06]

I completely disagree. Ask any of those 8 kids if Mommy and Daddy are still married and they would say "yes." They still see Kate with her wedding ring on. Most children hope that their parents will get back together even after the divorce is announced to them. They need transition time and Jon is not giving it to them. Yes, this is hurtful to Kate but it is just plain wrong to do to those children. They are NOT legally divorced yet!

Well Kate better not take any of those kiddos, esp Mady and Cara grocery shopping because every single tabloid will have those pictures of Jon and Hailey in St. Tropez on their front covers.....and that will be very sad for those two girls if and when they see those pictures.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Well Kate better not take any of those kiddos, esp Mady and Cara grocery shopping because every single tabloid will have those pictures of Jon and Hailey in St. Tropez on their front covers.....and that will be very sad for those two girls if and when they see those pictures.

That would be ridiculously hurtful if Cara & Mady saw that picture. Why couldn't Jon have realized that? Oh wait, maybe he thought they must not have cameras in St. Tropez right? And it's not like he's been in the news lately right? Idiot. I wish he'd have had the foresight to realize that stepping out with his new GF might hurt his kids or even Kate. Totally insensitive and IMO shows he's self-absorbed and cares only about himself right now. But I guess it's ok since he's been abused by Kate all these years. I'm being sarcastic.

 

[Promomx2]

I guess we should be glad Jon hasn't visited any nude beaches.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I guess we should be glad Jon hasn't visited any nude beaches.

.....

 

[MM27]

Nope -- not model material.



they're reading us again

first we got Kate to wear crocs
then we got Kate to cover up a bit after seeing her bikini-- which explains wearing the dress to the store.
now we got Ed Hardy to cancel the kids' clothing idea.

We rule the world

What next?

The funny thing is, Ed Hardy already has a kid's and baby collection
and they have bibs too. That would make Kate happy http://www.edhardyshop.com/Ed-Hardy-Kids-and-Babies-s/280.htm

 

[LoveDopey]

I guess we should be glad Jon hasn't visited any nude beaches.

I have tears rolling down my face.

 

[live4christp1]

All their kids look so incredibly sad or angry in recent photos. I'm sure they are hurt, scared, confused.......

But if you look back even further they look sad in a lot of pictures, especially the twins.......

I think this family got sucked into being a production and not really a family.

I'm sure they have gotten some great things out of doing the show (material things) but what they really needed was just to be a family, spend time together (really to just enjoy each other, not for some camera crew and to boost ratings).

So very sad for them.

 

[mhsjax]

Well, well, well, Seems Jon's new sweetie has a rap sheet. He just called me in to show me. Seems she was arrested back in 2005 for drug possession. It was settled out of court, but still. Also some pretty raunchy pics to go along with it. Seems she is a wild party girl.

 

[redrosesix]

I can't defend him anymore either BUT everyone involved has stated he did not cheat on Kate. He did leave her (although she filed for divorce), and her treatment of him was probably a big reason. They are no longer together since the filing for sure, so he can date anyone of legal age and it is not cheating.

eta: this wasn't directed at you, but to the posters who keep saying he cheated and how kate couldn't make him cheat no matter how awful she was etc. They are both awful for the record.

no worries -- I guessed that. I also don't think he absolutely had an affair before, or that he had to shoulder all of the blame for the failure of their marriage.

I completely disagree. Ask any of those 8 kids if Mommy and Daddy are still married and they would say "yes." They still see Kate with her wedding ring on. Most children hope that their parents will get back together even after the divorce is announced to them. They need transition time and Jon is not giving it to them. Yes, this is hurtful to Kate but it is just plain wrong to do to those children. They are NOT legally divorced yet!

And to me it does not matter how Kate treated Jon or how Jon treated Kate - neither of those justify cheating. If your marriage has MAJOR issues you work on them, not cheat or give up, or start acting like a drunk college student...I truly believe that Kate wanted to work on their issues but Jon wanted out so he could go have FUN! I have zero respect for him adn I really hope that someday Kate finds a real man that will show those children what an ADULT father with integrity acts like!

But, then again, we don't know how long they've actually been separated -- some reports say it's already been a year or more. So, I don't have a problem with him having a girlfriend 2 weeks after the divorce was announced (geez, maybe the kids even knew a long time ago) but I do think Jon needs to be completely discreet until it's absolutely serious...

Well Kate better not take any of those kiddos, esp Mady and Cara grocery shopping because every single tabloid will have those pictures of Jon and Hailey in St. Tropez on their front covers.....and that will be very sad for those two girls if and when they see those pictures.

...and this is the reason. But if they don't see it for themselves, their classmates likely will.

I guess we should be glad Jon hasn't visited any nude beaches.

Too funny...

 

[redrosesix]

Well, this is interesting if it's true...

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...mors-about-kate-and-her-bodyguard-says-source

EXCLUSIVE: Jon Gosselin Started The Rumors About Kate And Her Bodyguard, Says SourceEXCLUSIVE: Jon Gosselin Started The Rumors About Kate And Her Bodyguard, Says Source
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Posted on Jul 09, 2009 @ 02:35PM
Jon Gosselin intentionally started the rumors that his now-estranged wife was having an affair with their bodyguard Steve Neild, a well-placed insider has told RadarOnline.com.

“Jon wanted a divorce and he also wanted to throw attention away from himself, so he spread that rumor,” the source said. “Jon doesn’t like Steve so he didn’t care about the repercussions.”

Kate ended being the one who filed for divorce on June 22. “She didn’t want to, and in fact on the day the papers went in, Kate was with her attorney crying and sobbing. She was very, very upset,” the source added.

“Kate definitely did not want the divorce. She did it because she felt she had to protect herself.”

Steve, who is married, hasn’t been publically seen with Kate for several weeks although RadarOnline.com has learned he is still a “consultant” on the family’s security issues.

Kate has recently been travelling with another of the bodyguards. She arrived in Los Angeles on July 6 and stayed at the Hotel Bel-Air, where she was spotted relaxing by the pool. On Wednesday, Kate had a business lunch with two women at the hotel, before taking a car to the Warner Brothers lot in Burbank. She took in a two-hour meeting and then returned to her posh hotel. She returned home to PA on Thursday.

Speculation is rampant that Kate is actively pursuing several options to further her career as a TV personality and author. New episodes of “Jon & Kate Plus 8” are scheduled to return on TLC August 3.

Somebody posted this item before -- I think it's the same one, just a different date.

FTR, I don't believe Jon did start the rumours -- I think it was the tabloids trying to get more mileage out of an old story -- I never believe stories when they're attributed to a "a source". I also don't believe Kate and the bodyguard had an affair.

I can absolutely understand why that bodyguard no longer travels with her -- the guy is married, and his poor wife had to see pictures and stories about her husband having an affair with Kate Gosselin If I was the guy's DW, I'd be demanding a job change.

 

[happygirl]

I believe that Jon did start the whole Kate and the bodyguard rumor. I think he told one of his friends they told a friend and bam they whole world is believing it

 

[ksjayhawks]

I think their marriage has been over for a long, long time --possibly even when they did the vow renewal in Hawaii. (as has been discussed here many times) The move to the new house may have been made because the master was downstairs and out of the way of the kids bedrooms and there was also the apartment over the garage where jon could live. Remember the big production Kate made of the kids taking a look at the room because that was the last time they would see/be in it, she went on about them not being allowed to just barge in "their" bedroom, that they needed to knock? Maybe that was so the kids wouldn't know that Jon and Kate were no longer together, no longer sharing a bed.

 

[katieam1]

The People article is interesting. Hopefully she will not spend much time with the kids.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20291160,00.html

 

[katieam1]

I think their marriage has been over for a long, long time --possibly even when they did the vow renewal in Hawaii. (as has been discussed here many times) The move to the new house may have been made because the master was downstairs and out of the way of the kids bedrooms and there was also the apartment over the garage where jon could live. Remember the big production Kate made of the kids taking a look at the room because that was the last time they would see/be in it, she went on about them not being allowed to just barge in "their" bedroom, that they needed to knock? Maybe that was so the kids wouldn't know that Jon and Kate were no longer together, no longer sharing a bed.

That is an interesting thought!

 

[happygirl]

It seems like when people are having marriage problems it seems like they usually do things like buy house or renew marriage vows to try to save the relationship I have even know people to have another baby to save a marriage. We all know they were talking about adopting a baby for Korea sp?

 

[happygirl]

The People article is interesting. Hopefully she will not spend much time with the kids.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20291160,00.html

They sure seem like a match made in heaven. She li kes to party so does he. No wonder he doesn't want be with Kate. Kate want's to be a grown up. Jon wants to be a child again