Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[3prettyprincesses]

I'm not really taking sides in this divorce thing at all, but I find Kate's comments in the article just "eye-rolling". I know I just posted this, but I just keep shaking my head, going "WTH?"

Maybe I read that wrong, but she basically said that her kids love her and love being around her and they only love Jon because he's "daddy". I haven't seen Jon out there bashing Kate, YET. We'll see what's to come, but I don't believe Kate in the victim role. Like I said, I think they are both responsible.

I didn't interpret it that way. To me it sounded like she was just talking about how the kids love both her and Jon regardless of what's going on. From the People Mag. interview with Kate:

"They're just very resilient, adjustable kids. They're social and happy and so forgiving. I feel guilty because I look at them and I beat myself up because I don't have enough time in the day to give to them. But they love me, they love hugging me while I'm doing laundry. Jon's changed before their very eyes, but they love him, they just love him, because he's their Dad."

 

[madge]

\Sheesh, I'm away for a couple of hours and come back to close-ups of Kate's 'girls' in a bikini.

you're saying that like it's a bad thing and I'm sitting here under a tree in my back yard thinking they add a certain something to the thread ... what it is, exactly, they add .. I have NO idea .. but they're cracking me right up. LOLOLOL ....

 

[DrCavin]

Kate sure is making an effort to be a hot lady lately. Does anyone think she is trying to attract a new husband? If so, do you think anyone would marry her after seeing her relationship style on the show? Maybe she learned her lesson? Maybe she would be a better wife to someone with more backbone than Jon? Opinions?

Kate is attractive, minus that hair. NO WAY I would marry her, reminds me of my ex!!

 

[mickeyboat]

I'm not really taking sides in this divorce thing at all, but I find Kate's comments in the article just "eye-rolling". I know I just posted this, but I just keep shaking my head, going "WTH?"

Maybe I read that wrong, but she basically said that her kids love her and love being around her and they only love Jon because he's "daddy". I haven't seen Jon out there bashing Kate, YET. We'll see what's to come, but I don't believe Kate in the victim role. Like I said, I think they are both responsible.

I had to respond to this, too. Sometimes I feel like between DH and I, he is "fun Daddy" and I am "mean Mommy" because I am the one who is always telling the kids what to do and he is the one who wants to have fun all the time. Maybe that's what she means.

 

[MICKEY4EVER!]

I didn't interpret it that way. To me it sounded like she was just talking about how the kids love both her and Jon regardless of what's going on. From the People Mag. interview with Kate:

"They're just very resilient, adjustable kids. They're social and happy and so forgiving. I feel guilty because I look at them and I beat myself up because I don't have enough time in the day to give to them. But they love me, they love hugging me while I'm doing laundry. Jon's changed before their very eyes, but they love him, they just love him, because he's their Dad."

Reading that quote outside of the article itself, I can see what Kate is saying now. Combined with everything else, it just looked like another Kate praising herself moment. I see her saying here that they love her even though she feels she isn't spending enough time with them. And she sees Jon changing in front of them, but kids still love him, too.

Thanks. I thought I might have misinterpreted that. That would be a horrible thing to say, so I wanted to be wrong!!!

 

[3prettyprincesses]

you're saying that like it's a bad thing and I'm sitting here under a tree in my back yard thinking they add a certain something to the thread ... what it is, exactly, they add .. I have NO idea .. but they're cracking me right up. LOLOLOL ....

I was remarking over the LARGE picture someone posted. It was all b**bs. If I was a dermatologist, I'm sure I could've examined her skin for moles from that picture alone! Madge, you know we all love your links, you really should pursue investigative journalism.

 

[DMRick]

I just took it to mean, they love us both, no matter what..and if they hear us argue, they are forgiving. I am not in their home, when the camera's are not rolling, so I don't know what is really going on, but I do think this will be one of those divorce's that will be better for the kids, since they apparently have a break down and won't be getting any counseling.

I did just have another thought..maybe the kids know more about the 2 am photo's than we do (and remember this girl at their house), and that's what she meant by Jon has changed but they love him, because he's their dad.

Sometime's I think we all read more into everything than is there to read.

I didn't interpret it that way. To me it sounded like she was just talking about how the kids love both her and Jon regardless of what's going on. From the People Mag. interview with Kate:

"They're just very resilient, adjustable kids. They're social and happy and so forgiving. I feel guilty because I look at them and I beat myself up because I don't have enough time in the day to give to them. But they love me, they love hugging me while I'm doing laundry. Jon's changed before their very eyes, but they love him, they just love him, because he's their Dad."

 

[MICKEY4EVER!]

I had to respond to this, too. Sometimes I feel like between DH and I, he is "fun Daddy" and I am "mean Mommy" because I am the one who is always telling the kids what to do and he is the one who wants to have fun all the time. Maybe that's what she means.

I feel that way, too! I'm always the one who sounds like she's "nagging" and DH is the fun one.

 

[mousetravel]

I think she would definitely be a better wife to someone who stood up to her more. Jon was a passive-aggressive wuss, and I think over time, Kate lost respect for him, which made her behavior towards him worse, especially in high stress situations such as the births of premie sextuplets.

I have to agree with you on this, especially the part I bolded.

 

[Mom2Nick]

I didn't interpret it that way. To me it sounded like she was just talking about how the kids love both her and Jon regardless of what's going on. From the People Mag. interview with Kate:

"They're just very resilient, adjustable kids. They're social and happy and so forgiving. I feel guilty because I look at them and I beat myself up because I don't have enough time in the day to give to them. But they love me, they love hugging me while I'm doing laundry. Jon's changed before their very eyes, but they love him, they just love him, because he's their Dad."

She has also changed before their very eyes but is not mentioning that.

 

[DMRick]

Reading that quote outside of the article itself, I can see what Kate is saying now. Combined with everything else, it just looked like another Kate praising herself moment.

Really? I guess we all have to draw our own conclusions. In any case, I think we'll see a lot of each of them placing blame on the other. Isn't that what happens in most divorces when there is money and kids? Wouldn't they both think the other is wrong?
Of course if Kate didn't have an affair and Jon did, and the only thing that Kate did wrong, was, well, being Kate, then I guess Jon would be a big part of the blame. But it will be a while to see how this will happen..if they will try to keep it quiet and just divorce.

edited to add..oh wait, I think we agree now LOL. And you don't think it was a Kate praising herself moment LOL!

 

[MICKEY4EVER!]

Really? I guess we all have to draw our own conclusions. In any case, I think we'll see a lot of each of them placing blame on the other. Isn't that what happens in most divorces when there is money and kids? Wouldn't they both think the other is wrong?
Of course if Kate didn't have an affair and Jon did, and the only thing that Kate did wrong, was, well, being Kate, then I guess Jon would be a big part of the blame. But it will be a while to see how this will happen..if they will try to keep it quiet and just divorce.

edited to add..oh wait, I think we agree now LOL. And you don't think it was a Kate praising herself moment LOL!

He, He! Well, not that particular comment about the kids loving Jon because he's Daddy. There were lots of other moments in the article that maybe weren't so "self-praising", now that I read it again, but definitely she doesn't give Jon ANY credit.

I don't give either one of them any credit, for that matter, but she doesn't really seem to place a lot of blame on herself, does she? If Jon had an affair and she didn't, well then the blame's mostly on him. But she contributed to the marriage also, and she has to accept some responsibility. If my DH had an affair and we divorced, well, then I realize that there must have been something wrong the marriage and because I am PART of the marriage, then I should have some responsibility for it. But that's just me. I don't really want to get into a debate over it...

 

[3prettyprincesses]

I feel that way, too! I'm always the one who sounds like she's "nagging" and DH is the fun one.

No kidding! I am ALWAYS saying that to DH, that he's the 'fun' one and I'm the big ol' meanie who makes them do their chores.

Reading that quote outside of the article itself, I can see what Kate is saying now. Combined with everything else, it just looked like another Kate praising herself moment. I see her saying here that they love her even though she feels she isn't spending enough time with them. And she sees Jon changing in front of them, but kids still love him, too.

Thanks. I thought I might have misinterpreted that. That would be a horrible thing to say, so I wanted to be wrong!!!

That was how I took it and I certainly hope you don't think I was going at you!

I just took it to mean, they love us both, no matter what..and if they hear us argue, they are forgiving. I am not in their home, when the camera's are not rolling, so I don't know what is really going on, but I do think this will be one of those divorce's that will be better for the kids, since they apparently have a break down and won't be getting any counseling.

I did just have another thought..maybe the kids know more about the 2 am photo's than we do (and remember this girl at their house), and that's what she meant by Jon has changed but they love him, because he's their dad.

Sometime's I think we all read more into everything than is there to read.

Agreed.

She has also changed before their very eyes but is not mentioning that.

I'm sure this will illicit all manner of answers from everyone but how has Kate changed?

Really? I guess we all have to draw our own conclusions. In any case, I think we'll see a lot of each of them placing blame on the other. Isn't that what happens in most divorces when there is money and kids? Wouldn't they both think the other is wrong?
Of course if Kate didn't have an affair and Jon did, and the only thing that Kate did wrong, was, well, being Kate, then I guess Jon would be a big part of the blame. But it will be a while to see how this will happen..if they will try to keep it quiet and just divorce.

edited to add..oh wait, I think we agree now LOL. And you don't think it was a Kate praising herself moment LOL!

I'm sure there will be blame throwing going around and I would hope they would try not to do that in front of the kids. I agree though, that if Kate did not have an affair and Jon did that would be a reason for a lot of anger/bitterness on Kate's end that I'd hope she could control to some degree. You know, maybe J&K will surprise all of us and come out of this thing respectable and amiable so they can keep the peace for their kids sake. Stranger things have happened...

 

[Promomx2]

Did no one else catch that Kate said when she does the laundry. I thought I read she has someone who does her laundry.

 

[madge]

I was remarking over the LARGE picture someone posted. It was all b**bs.

I know! it's hysterical!

 

[Promomx2]

In the last picturem the one she's walking away, they is something HUGE wrapped in plastic. Maybe a hottub??

 

[Mom2Nick]

I'm sure this illicit all manner of answers from everyone but how has Kate changed?

Not sure why the eye roll was necessary as it's very clear to many that she is not the same person she was just a few years ago.

She used to be a "frumpy" stay at home mom that was more focused on her children then on her appearance. Sweats, manageable hair do, little make up and no sense of style as she admitted herself.

Now she is completely aware of how she is dressed, is styled to the nines most times(think dog "shopping"), goes to the spa, gets her nails done, tans, has begun working out and has lost weight and is now a career woman that travels for days on end.

I am not saying that in any sort of a negative way but she has definitely changed as well and is definitely MUCH different then she was 2 years ago.

 

[LoveDopey]

if Kate starts wearing Crocs, look out

I had to come out of lurkdom --

 

[WaltD4Me]

I don't have a problem with her (or anyone else) parading around with a bathing suit on.......if it fits!!

She needs to go up a size or two. I can't believe with everyone commenting on her top, and NO ONE has mentioned her butt cheeks hanging out!

Have to agree. Those bottoms on that suit are way too small, doesn't even look comfortable, it is going to creep up and turn into a thong at any minute!

I don't see the big deal about her being outside in a bikini at all. Even if she knew her picture would be taken...so what? We just saw a bunch of bikini pictures from when they were in North Carolina, what difference does it make if she is on a beach or at her house?

I'm kinda wondering about the hats too though. Not that they are ugly, but that they cover all her hair, she has worn baseball type hats before, I do wonder if she got a bad cut? Or maybe Jon shaved her head in her sleep!

 

[kidshop]

No kidding! I am ALWAYS saying that to DH, that he's the 'fun' one and I'm the big ol' meanie who makes them do their chores.



That was how I took it and I certainly hope you don't think I was going at you!



Agreed.



I'm sure this will illicit all manner of answers from everyone but how has Kate changed?



I'm sure there will be blame throwing going around and I would hope they would try not to do that in front of the kids. I agree though, that if Kate did not have an affair and Jon did that would be a reason for a lot of anger/bitterness on Kate's end that I'd hope she could control to some degree. You know, maybe J&K will surprise all of us and come out of this thing respectable and amiable so they can keep the peace for their kids sake. Stranger things have happened...

Well, she did used to be the primary caregiver and has since last fall gone out on book tours for weeks at a time. She dresses differently (high heels with the kids) as does Jon. She is on that pink phone all the time (Jon is on his as well). They have a bodyguard that went on vacation with them. She doesn't hang out with Kevin/Jodi or Beth it appears anymore. How has she NOT changed in the last year or so?

All of the dirty laundry throwing will be in public via People it looks like! Stay tuned!