Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[GeorgiaPeach8]

IMO Jodi & Kevin didn't really have much choice to come out and, yet again, say 'their piece' on camera. After all they came out and gave interviews saying how it was all Kate's fault and Jon was so nice....blah, blah, blah. Everyone agreed because that was the commonly held belief.

Then Jon goes and starts acting like he's auditioning for 'Celebrity Love Island', and many people now have totally different opinions of him.

Result - Jodi & Kevin look like they've been played by Jon.

I saw the new interview as a way to try to claw back some dignity (IMO way too late for that), and they did change the focus slightly - less about Jon & Kate and a bit more about the 'poor kids'.

I know I'm slightly biased with these two, but IMO the only problem they have with the show now is that they're not on it.

I think Jodi and Kevin have another choice--be quiet! I'm always amazed that adults can't figure that out. Jodi has to be the worst about it. Hopefully, Kate will figure that out as the 45 days ends. Quiet is the moral high ground.

I slightly biased too about Jodi and Kevin--I think you are exactly right about their "problem" with the show. Also, TLC must be making sure they are super careful about filming kids when they are being good. All this bad behavior Kevin and Jodi talk about from the kids because of the show is not something I see. Too me, the kids are actually better behaved now than ever (not that I thought given their situation they were ever bad). Even Mady, who J and K freely admit had more problems adjusting seems to be much more at peace with their very unique situation.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I don't find it strange, because I don't know if that is true. I just know about the few hours they tape..not the other hours. Maybe when Kate or Jon are on the phone, they are talking to family. They have said family doens't want to be taped..well, with the paparazzi, it's hard to get together, if you don't want to be taped. Yes, K & J were part of it, and while they didn't get 'paid' they did have some reimbursement money, and they had no problem being on camera.

If my family were doing a reality tv show I can guarantee you that I would be no where near them when filming was going on. I don't even like being on home movies. Jon said recently that his family feels the same way.

Can't someone like Carla be a friend and paid help as well?

I do not trust Kevin & Jody at all.

 

[redrosesix]

I actually wondered if Jon's kitchen job was a college job but that is still only adds a few years to the equation.

pp--I don't know what to say about the huffington interview excerpt. Other than Jon saying he had to ask Kate's "permission" to hang out with his friends is really annoying. How many men with twins, then six more don't have to ask their wife's permission to go out. Personally, I would be chomping at the bit for my husband to get home from work if I had been home with 8 kids. Even if I had some help during the day. If DH called to tell me he was stopping at a bar to watch the game and have a few beers, I might break down in tears.

Just going back to this point: IMO, Jon's situation wasn't the same as your husbands, at least not in Oct. Jon was the stay-at-home dad then, and Kate was doing the book tours. So, really Jon's situation was more like yours at that time. I think that a lot of times with the J + K issues, we forget that Kate isn't staying home all day with the kids, that Jon doesn't have long days at the office, etc, etc -- they have a really unique family life even without talking about the 8 kids.

JMHO, but every parent needs to get out once in a while. I also think having to "ask permission" as opposed to negotiating some downtime feels really degrading to many people.

 

[GeorgiaPeach8]

Oh, I totally agree. The last year Jon has been a SAHD. And I think it is far more important actually for the stay at home parent. The parent who has worked all day as had some adult conversation Really, both parents need to get out.

I wasn't totally clear in my post or maybe I was reading Jon differently. When he said he had to ask "permission" to go out I kind of thought he was referring to their whole marriage not just the time since he has been staying home more. Also, given Jon's recent whiny behavior (i.e. whining about photog and then doing stuff to make yourself a target or whining about having no privacy but sucking up all the motorcycles, free shirts and new cars out there) I thought when he said "permission" is was probably closer to my idea of negoiatating. But I can see how many men, especially one that has been criticized all over the internet for being a weenie, would be sensitive about their time being planned for them.

 

[DreaGirl]

If my family were doing a reality tv show I can guarantee you that I would be no where near them when filming was going on. I don't even like being on home movies. Jon said recently that his family feels the same way.

Can't someone like Carla be a friend and paid help as well?

I do not trust Kevin & Jody at all.

I think it changes the dynamic of a friendship when you start to pay someone for their help. Helping out a friend to be nice or exchanging services (I'll babysit for you if you do it for me) is totally different than paying someone to help. All of a sudden your friend is "your boss" and that changes things. JMO

 

[redrosesix]

Oh, I totally agree. The last year Jon has been a SAHD. And I think it is far more important actually for the stay at home parent. The parent who has worked all day as had some adult conversation Really, both parents need to get out.

I wasn't totally clear in my post or maybe I was reading Jon differently. When he said he had to ask "permission" to go out I kind of thought he was referring to their whole marriage not just the time since he has been staying home more. Also, given Jon's recent whiny behavior (i.e. whining about photog and then doing stuff to make yourself a target or whining about having no privacy but sucking up all the motorcycles, free shirts and new cars out there) I thought when he said "permission" is was probably closer to my idea of negoiatating. But I can see how many men, especially one that has been criticized all over the internet for being a weenie, would be sensitive about their time being planned for them.

Yes, I see your point -- but when I read the original post, I understood him to be saying he didn't like to have to ask permission to spend any time with his friends.

 

[madge]

Don't get me wrong..I think it's irresponsible that the kids don't have helmets on..but I'm curious..is it a law if it's on your own property?

I don't think so? I looked up the Pennsylvania laws once, and don't remember it saying anything about personal property. by now, I'm sure someone else has checked, though. LOLOL

 

[longstangetrip]

http://nova.pasenategop.com/brochures/bike-helmet-adult.pdf

cute little coloring book kind of explaination...! 11 year old in my neighborhood at 9:00 yesterday morning heading to swim practice on his bike swerved into a passing car. He's okay, probably only because of his helmet. I came upon him laying in the street, surrounded by emergency workers, helmet still on. It was frightening. People who don't insist their kids always wear a properly fitting helmet are the same to me as improperly or inconsistently using car seats and seat belts. Why? Adults who ride with their kids and don't wear a helmet also bug me. Why are they not as vulnerable? Important? Craziness.
I wish they'd get the tups new bikes. They are riding the 12" ones Ellen DeGeneres gave them when they were two. They are too big for them and some showed an interest last year in riding two wheelers. Now the training wheels are all back on? Do Maddy and Cara have bikes?

 

[WaltD4Me]

I don't find it strange, because I don't know if that is true. I just know about the few hours they tape..not the other hours. Maybe when Kate or Jon are on the phone, they are talking to family. They have said family doens't want to be taped..well, with the paparazzi, it's hard to get together, if you don't want to be taped. Yes, K & J were part of it, and while they didn't get 'paid' they did have some reimbursement money, and they had no problem being on camera.

I have to admit I do find it strange. I really don't think they have much if any contact with family. And even if the family doesn't want to be filmed. Which is totally understandable, they are never even mentioned. I've been watching the show pretty much from the beginning and you have never heard Kate say, "Let's make a present for Grandma." (when they are doing crafts) or "Tomorrow we are going to Grandma's house." .... "We were at my sister's last week and the kids loved her new puppy." // "Grandpa came over yesterday to watch the kids ride their new bikes." or mentions the girls are wearing the dresses Aunt Mary sent them. Nothing like that...ever. And I'm not bashing Kate for it, I have no idea of the circumstances, I'm just saying I don't think she has a relationship with her family.

 

[madge]

Divorce equals he said, she said, my friend did this, my friend did that.

exactly, which is why I believe they are both at fault in the breakdown of the marriage.

 

[madge]

I wish they'd get the tups new bikes. They are riding the 12" ones Ellen DeGeneres gave them when they were two. They are too big for them and some showed an interest last year in riding two wheelers. Now the training wheels are all back on? Do Maddy and Cara have bikes?

I was just thinking about you today .. hadn't seen you posting for a while!

I've thought the same thing about the bikes being too small.

the only thing I ever see Cara riding is a scooter.

 

[madge]

http://www.celebuzz.com/kate-gosselin-lonely-s124611/


ETA: here's a little longer version of the story.
http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/2009/08/933-cover-inset---kate-gosseli.html

 

[kidshop]

http://www.celebuzz.com/kate-gosselin-lonely-s124611/

Her friend has a name! Has that name been heard or noted before? Uh, I thought she went to Wyoming with Steve? I'll just reiterate what you said before Madge.....as you sow, so shall you reap.

I'm not buying!

 

[southernbelle5672]

Her friend has a name! Has that name been heard or noted before? Uh, I thought she went to Wyoming with Steve? I'll just reiterate what you said before Madge.....as you sow, so shall you reap.

I'm not buying!

Yeah, the article looks like something anyone could have said after watching Monday night's show. Not many details just "kate has a heart"

 

[madge]

Uh, I thought she went to Wyoming with Steve?

link? was this in one of the stories that came out today?

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I have to admit I do find it strange. I really don't think they have much if any contact with family. And even if the family doesn't want to be filmed. Which is totally understandable, they are never even mentioned. I've been watching the show pretty much from the beginning and you have never heard Kate say, "Let's make a present for Grandma." (when they are doing crafts) or "Tomorrow we are going to Grandma's house." .... "We were at my sister's last week and the kids loved her new puppy." // "Grandpa came over yesterday to watch the kids ride their new bikes." or mentions the girls are wearing the dresses Aunt Mary sent them. Nothing like that...ever. And I'm not bashing Kate for it, I have no idea of the circumstances, I'm just saying I don't think she has a relationship with her family.

You make very good points, they don't ever mention family members. And you would think that after this many seasons, Grandma's name or whomever would pop out once in a blue moon.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

link? was this in one of the stories that came out today?

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/exclusive-kate-gosselins-secret-camping-trip-her-boys-bodyguard

Kate supposedly took the boys camping and bodyguard Steve was there too and it was filmed for TLC. On the link, there is even a picture of Steve's wife, Gina.

 

[madge]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/exclusive-kate-gosselins-secret-camping-trip-her-boys-bodyguard

Kate supposedly took the boys camping and bodyguard Steve was there too and it was filmed for TLC. On the link, there is even a picture of Steve's wife, Gina.

thanks!

kids go back to school tomorrow .. I've been a little busy getting ready for that, and I have to go to bed now. early morning tomorrow!

 

[kidshop]

thanks!

kids go back to school tomorrow .. I've been a little busy getting ready for that, and I have to go to bed now. early morning tomorrow!

Lucky! I have a few more weeks to go! I think the kids are ready to go back to.

 

[madge]

Lucky! I have a few more weeks to go! I think the kids are ready to go back to.

I know my kids are ready. the weather has been lousy this summer .. I think I can count on one hand the number of times we've been in the pool since July 4. It's crazy. They're bored, getting on each other's nerves ... getting on MY nerves ... and it's time.

now I can count down to Fall Break. LOL!