Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 4

[DMRick]

Now I will let you know when I get my PHD in pyschology.

You don't need to get a degree to give opinions. If so, I'd be in hot water. Now, if you told me the future of these kids and that that is how it is going to turn out, and you stated it as fact..well, I'd be asking for that paper you have framed on your wall LOL.

 

[jpaxton1118]

I agree, the video is very blurry and the face cannot be clearly seen. However, I do think it is suspect for Jon to be having a 23 year old sunbathing in the yard and then leaving a bar at 2am with her. It doesn't look good for him but we really can't be sure can we? I wonder, who took that sunbathing photo anyway?

I agree that it does not look good but there are other people there so we can not say that she is with him. She could be there with the other guy. Before anyone flames me I know he has a 23 year old at his home sun bathing and it is so so wrong but once again that does not mean he cheated. I think he likes the attention that she gives him and he went to far with it but still no hard proof he actually did the deed with her.

 

[DMRick]

Who is the guy sitting in the picture with them? Could she have come with him and they are all friends? And the video does look like him but you can not see his face and this guy has a criminal past. How do we know that he did not stage this. I know I am reaching but I really could not see his face. It looked like his hair. I believe that Jon is acting stupid and being a kid but I still need to see him clearly.

I don't think he's been id'd. She could have, and maybe she just wanted to use the pool and now she is drying off. I couldn't tell if it was him from the video. Might have been staged.

 

[DMRick]

I especially ... agree with the bolded part.

So no one thinks I condone Jon's behavior .. I don't. (I'm not as much of a JK8 hater as I am a JK8 debater, sometimes ) And because no pictures of Kate cheating have surfaced yet, people say there's NO way she could be cheating .. even though the same tabloids say she has.

That would not be me. I just haven't seen any pictures of her at 2 am coming out of a bar with someone other than her husband. I understand the radio guy who said they were holding hands is supposed to be on the up and up, but who know adays doesn't have a cell phone in that type of business..and why was there no picture taken. Maybe the body guard threatened him, or Kate paid him off LOL.

As far as their contract goes, IIRC, Jon said they were contractually obligated for season 5 (40 episodes?) and there was an option for seasons 6 & 7. I wonder if there's a clause for separation or divorce.

Are you kidding..this is making the ratings go nuts..why would they want to put that clause in. I happen to think that TLC has really edited this in such a way that it has caused stress on their marriage. I actually give them a good chunk of the blame. But saying that, I still believe it wasn't a good marriage to begin with (yep, a vibe).

Will people want to watch Jon and Kate in therapy, or more tension while they figure out who's spending time with the kids when? That's crossing a line to me. I would hope that wouldn't happen.

I would not want to watch the therapy, although I hope they allude to having it and trying to work it out.

 

[jpaxton1118]

Jon has admitted to doing stupid things and doing stuff he should not be doing, and please do not think I am excussing him because if it were my husband he would be sleeping on the couch until we worked it out and I trusted him but I really believe that he knows he was wrong and he regrets it. The opening show, he looked so beat down, not drunk or drugged but just beat and I could tell he knew he was wrong and I could tell he was sorry.

I know I have done things in my past and I thought they were great idea's at the time and they would not effect anyone and after it did effect people I was so sorry I did it and regretted every minute of it and I actually felt so stupid for doing it to the people that I loved and wished I could take their pain away. I wished I could go back to the time before and do it differently. I believe that is how he feels.

Once again I will be taking appointments if anyone needs me to analyze them

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

I don't know if they were paid, but Radar On-line did admit to paying Nayda Suleman. That doesn't mean they paid Jodie and Kevin, it just means that they do pay. IMHO if you want to be taken seriously you don't go to Radar On-line. I feel pretty confidant that other more legitimate media sources would have told their story too...but they tend not to pay.

Does anyone know when Radar was established? It seems like it popped up overnight and C-listers are using it as their official mouthpiece.

You don't need to get a degree to give opinions. If so, I'd be in hot water. Now, if you told me the future of these kids and that that is how it is going to turn out, and you stated it as fact..well, I'd be asking for that paper you have framed on your wall LOL.

Amen, sister!

 

[jpaxton1118]

Does anyone know when Radar was established? It seems like it popped up overnight and C-listers are using it as their official mouthpiece.



Amen, sister!

I agree about Radar, I have never heard of it before. Right now on HLN they are talking about Jon and Kate

 

[DMRick]

do we know that they weren't offered before now?

No, we don't. But I can't imagine why they would have been if Jon hadn't been seen out before the college girls. But I'll give you that, maybe they were and the money wasn't enough, er I mean and they wanted to wait and see if Kate would stop working from home and be with the kids full time.

 

[DMRick]

I wonder, who took that sunbathing photo anyway?

It was prob taken a mile away with a high powered lens.

 

[jpaxton1118]

On HLN they just said that TLC said that they only film 2 hours a day 2 days a week. I don't think I believe that. And they said that if a kid does not want to be filmed they are not, I don't think I believe that either

 

[madge]

So I guess my question is, didn't she already try and say something? People are saying that they are just now coming forward, but they say they have tried to talk to the family and then she went public with it last August which is almost a year ago.

and the reality is, Julie has been talking about Jon and Kate for over a year. From my limited understanding, Julie was an active participant in a Aunt Jodi fan group (I think?) on Facebook. The blog evolved from there. She's been sharing information for longer than people may realize.

Truth Breeds Hatred was the first blog I ever stumbled on after trying to learn more about Jon and Kate last summer. Julie's blog and Gosselins Without Pity were both started around the same time. GWOP was born after the Television Without Pity JK8 message board thread was closed.

I honestly feel like Kate's brother is trying to speak out to the public because he loves his sister and her family and wants it to be fixed. Do I think he is right? NO. but I think he thinks it is right and has there been proof that they have been paid anything? I know that the mags do pay for that stuff but do we know for sure that they were paid

I don't think we have any more proof than Jon saying "people" were paid, and threw out a number. It's common for tabloids to pay for interviews, though. I'd say it's safe to assume many people have been paid for their story over the past few months.

 

[MoniqueU]

Jon has admitted to doing stupid things and doing stuff he should not be doing, and please do not think I am excussing him because if it were my husband he would be sleeping on the couch until we worked it out and I trusted him but I really believe that he knows he was wrong and he regrets it. The opening show, he looked so beat down, not drunk or drugged but just beat and I could tell he knew he was wrong and I could tell he was sorry.

I know I have done things in my past and I thought they were great idea's at the time and they would not effect anyone and after it did effect people I was so sorry I did it and regretted every minute of it and I actually felt so stupid for doing it to the people that I loved and wished I could take their pain away. I wished I could go back to the time before and do it differently. I believe that is how he feels.

Once again I will be taking appointments if anyone needs me to analyze them

See I totally thought he looked and sounded more angry thrn anything. I know Kate said she was but she seemed more remorseful and beaten down then Jon did to me.
I am totally not taking sides here as I have been in both shoes to a certain extent minus the cameras and I am lucky to still be married myself.

 

[jpaxton1118]

Now on HLN they just said that the production crew is looking for an apartment for Jon that is cameral ready.

Just for people who do not know, HLN is Headline News on CNN. Now in all honesty I will take it like it is coming from a tabloid show, that is how much a I believe CNN. No flames please, just my opinion and I guess can tell you other things about me.

 

[jpaxton1118]

See I totally thought he looked and sounded more angry thrn anything. I know Kate said she was but she seemed more remorseful and beaten down then Jon did to me.
I am totally not taking sides here as I have been in both shoes to a certain extent minus the cameras and I am lucky to still be married myself.

I think she looked broken too. I really think they both did. Now I will say that I thought he changed when they were together. He did seem to become more angry but I think it was both of them and I am sure they both have anger towards each other.

 

[madge]

Are you kidding..this is making the ratings go nuts..why would they want to put that clause in. I happen to think that TLC has really edited this in such a way that it has caused stress on their marriage. I actually give them a good chunk of the blame. But saying that, I still believe it wasn't a good marriage to begin with (yep, a vibe).

I don't know, a marriage/divorce clause really wouldn't surprise me with these two.

but seriously, it's a show about a married couple. is it not possible for there to be some sort of wording in the contract about how many episodes Jon and/or Kate would be expected to film? Or what divorce would do to that shooting schedule? I don't know about TV contracts, which is why I am asking.

 

[jpaxton1118]

I don't know, a marriage/divorce clause really wouldn't surprise me with these two.

but seriously, it's a show about a married couple. is it not possible for there to be some sort of wording in the contract about how many episodes Jon and/or Kate would be expected to film? Or what divorce would do to that shooting schedule? I don't know about TV contracts, which is why I am asking.

TLC is eating this up and their numbers from the last show are showing that their marketing worked. If they end up getting divorced, well you have a new concept to the show. The kids are cute but really it was the drama from the parents that drew the ratings. I am sure they will have no problem filming them and the effects of the divorce on the kids.

 

[jpaxton1118]

and the reality is, Julie has been talking about Jon and Kate for over a year. From my limited understanding, Julie was an active participant in a Aunt Jodi fan group (I think?) on Facebook. The blog evolved from there. She's been sharing information for longer than people may realize.

Truth Breeds Hatred was the first blog I ever stumbled on after trying to learn more about Jon and Kate last summer. Julie's blog and Gosselins Without Pity were both started around the same time. GWOP was born after the Television Without Pity JK8 message board thread was closed.



I don't think we have any more proof than Jon saying "people" were paid, and threw out a number. It's common for tabloids to pay for interviews, though. I'd say it's safe to assume many people have been paid for their story over the past few months.

See I took that as the girls brothers were paid.

 

[madge]

TLC is eating this up and their numbers from the last show are showing that their marketing worked. If they end up getting divorced, well you have a new concept to the show. The kids are cute but really it was the drama from the parents that drew the ratings. I am sure they will have no problem filming them and the effects of the divorce on the kids.

given some of the content on other TLC shows, I have no doubt you're right.

 

[madge]

See I took that as the girls brothers were paid.

exactly .. Jon's comment was not specific about who was getting paid, which leads all of us to speculate. LOL.

 

[Erin1700]

Just curious, a magazine headline at the supermarket said Kate stayed out at dinner while her son was at the ER. Do we know which kid and what happened? Yes, I know this may be just a tabloid rumor, but I didnt get to pick up the magazine and check.