Jon and Kate Plus 8 official Thread, Part 2!!

[KandD]

I only caught the last half, but I saw her fawning all over one of them at the breeder's.

Sorry....I should have clarified.....when they were doing the commentary she didn't say anything nice. I thought after all the complaining at the end she would have said something like, "But now I can't imagine life without them" or something to that effect to make people see that she really does want the dogs but Jon was the one who said that one day they would be saying something like that and Kate said no!! Geesh...I am actually one who usually stands up for Kate (not on this particular board but with friends who can't stand her) but if you don't want a dog....don't get two!!!
I do hope that the puppies grow on the family though...they are awfully cute and the kids would be heartbroken if they had to get rid of them.

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

Sorry....I should have clarified.....when they were doing the commentary she didn't say anything nice. I thought after all the complaining at the end she would have said something like, "But now I can't imagine life without them" or something to that effect to make people see that she really does want the dogs but Jon was the one who said that one day they would be saying something like that and Kate said no!! Geesh...I am actually one who usually stands up for Kate (not on this particular board but with friends who can't stand her) but if you don't want a dog....don't get two!!!
I do hope that the puppies grow on the family though...they are awfully cute and the kids would be heartbroken if they had to get rid of them.

Mom sacrifice. I wanted puppies soooo bad, but my mom wasn't a huge fan of the idea. A friend of her's had puppies she needed to get rid of, and there were two left, and my child mind couldn't stand them being apart, so we got them both.

We ended up having to give them to her co-worker because we ended up having to travel a lot about six months after we got them. Again, my child mind decided they shouldn't be in cages (kennel), so I wanted to give them to someone with kids and a backyard. She wasn't too depressed when I made that decision.

 

[KandD]

Mom sacrifice. I wanted puppies soooo bad, but my mom wasn't a huge fan of the idea. A friend of her's had puppies she needed to get rid of, and there were two left, and my child mind couldn't stand them being apart, so we got them both.

We ended up having to give them to her co-worker because we ended up having to travel a lot about six months after we got them. Again, my child mind decided they shouldn't be in cages (kennel), so I wanted to give them to someone with kids and a backyard. She wasn't too depressed when I made that decision.

At least these pups have a lot of room to run around! I would LOVE to have the land that Jon and Kate have now. (I know....jealous!!)

 

[mamamary]

I think alot of times people rush into getting a puppy because they are cute. I think you really need to research to see what to expect. DIdn't Kate say she looked at a book in the petshop? That's not too much research. DH and I had dogs growing up. As a married couple we had a lab. Two years after our lab died we decided we were ready for another lab. I even researched them again. I got a few books from the library and did research on the internet. And even though I knew what to expect it was still hard. I just don't think she knew what they were in for.

As for the naming: When we knew we were getting our lab we had about 5 days before we could bring him home from the shelter. Between the 4 of us we could not come up with a name that we could agree on. My dd had the hardest time with trying to agree. In the end we went with Baxter which was her choice

Poor Aiden - I thought he was the big animal lover? He really seemed scared of the dogs.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

Owning pets is not a decision to take lightly as it requires a huge commitment as you all know. Why not get the kids some fish to start off with and maybe puppies when they are older? I sure hope she doesn't take the puppies away from them now. Jon said he loves them. They had cats before they had kids, so the two of them have had pets before.

I found it odd that Aaden, the lil animal lover of the bunch, was scared of the dogs.

They sure were cute little pups. I am surprised they didn't go with labs.

 

[Sugardimples]

I think they may have chosen to get German Shepherds because of a need for security. They have become celebrity figures and this make those kids vulnerable, It's a good idea to have a couple of big dogs in the house to help keep them safe.

 

[brockash]

Mom sacrifice. I wanted puppies soooo bad, but my mom wasn't a huge fan of the idea. A friend of her's had puppies she needed to get rid of, and there were two left, and my child mind couldn't stand them being apart, so we got them both.

We ended up having to give them to her co-worker because we ended up having to travel a lot about six months after we got them. Again, my child mind decided they shouldn't be in cages (kennel), so I wanted to give them to someone with kids and a backyard. She wasn't too depressed when I made that decision.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Everyone else in her family seemed to want dogs really badly...I remember them talking about it at the old house, and so if it was just Kate, no I don't think she would have ever gotten them. I think it was a mom sacrifice and compromise to make the others happy. They're living in a larger house now with lots of land, so I'm guessing they decided it was time. I also hope they don't get rid of them, but I wouldn't fault Kate for not saying nice things about the added responsibility, because 2 puppies is a huge responsibility on top of already having 8 kids. I personally am a dog person, and have always had them. Our last dog passed away a little over a year ago, and my kiddo has been begging to get another dog, and I know my husband wants to get another one as well, but honestly it's been much easier not having to worry about a pet while we're at work or when we go out of town ect. that I kinda prefer it this way, but I know when we move I'm sure I'll give in and let us have another dog, but if it was just me, I probably wouldn't at least for a long time, but it's a sacrifice for the others in my family.

 

[JBurke]

At least these pups have a lot of room to run around! I would LOVE to have the land that Jon and Kate have now. (I know....jealous!!)

I guess you dont DESERVE that house.
I usually keep quite about Jon and Kate, but she she ahs mentioned on two of the new house episodes about how the kids "deserve" that house.
That really irks me. Why do they deserve it?
We had 7 kids in our family in a small 3 bedroom house. Why didnt we deserve a big house with tons of land??
I wish she would just say "we are so lucky" or "we are so fortunate" to have this house.

 

[disneychrista]

I was glad to hear that the breeder will take the dogs back if need be, but I really am against that and hope that doesn't turn out to be the case.

I haven't watched the show yet but why did they go to a breeder and not to an animal shelter or rescue? I really wish they had.

There is only one question that I was thinking about the whole episode : Why are they getting puppies when you obviously don't want them I just found the whole thing a little strange.

Because it makes good TV?

 

[puffkin]

I haven't watched the show yet but why did they go to a breeder and not to an animal shelter or rescue? I really wish they had.

The breeder works as a cop or something along those lines and was security at one of their speaking engagements. He was talking their ear off about how great Sheps are and stuff. So when they decided to get dogs they gave him a call.

Jon mentioned that they wanted purebred puppies where they new the lineage and temperment of the parents because of the 8 kids. It also seemed like they would get a lot of support from this breeder. Honestly, I don't blame them for going through a breeder like this.

I know there are a lot of wonderful shelter dogs out there but I just wouldn't want to chance it with their family. My inlaws always get shelter "mutts" and have had some really wonderful dogs, but the two they have now seemed great on paper but they have become overly protective of MIL and I will not let my DS around them without myself or DH anymore. You just never know! Also, my experience with rescues has been that they can be pretty selective with their placement....I don't think many rescues would place a dog with the Gosselins! Their household is just too CRAZY!

I look at it that the breeders are still going to breed their dogs and if they aren't bought they end up in the shelters anyways (or here in PA the puppy mills just kill the unwanted dogs) ....I just never saw the difference between breeder vs. shelter dogs. They ALL still need a home!

 

[DVCisME]

I thought it was really rude when she said that she wished the breeded would stop blabbing in her ear at her speaking engagement. That would really make me hesitant to say anything to her, if I were ever given the chance. She could have just omitted that comment of said something along the lines of: Even though he was telling me alot about the dogs, I didn't think the info. would ever affect me.

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

At least these pups have a lot of room to run around! I would LOVE to have the land that Jon and Kate have now. (I know....jealous!!)

It's ok, I'm jealous of their storage. Weird, I know. I love the Expedit bookcase. They're not expensive, either, but I just can't justify buying it when I don't need it. Ho-hum.

I guess you dont DESERVE that house.
I usually keep quite about Jon and Kate, but she she ahs mentioned on two of the new house episodes about how the kids "deserve" that house.
That really irks me. Why do they deserve it?
We had 7 kids in our family in a small 3 bedroom house. Why didnt we deserve a big house with tons of land??
I wish she would just say "we are so lucky" or "we are so fortunate" to have this house.

I'm sure there are things you think you or your children deserve that others think are a luxury. If she thinks her kids deserve the space, so what?

BTW, she has said several times (in different ways) how lucky they are to have the new house (as well as the other perks they receive).

I thought it was really rude when she said that she wished the breeded would stop blabbing in her ear at her speaking engagement. That would really make me hesitant to say anything to her, if I were ever given the chance. She could have just omitted that comment of said something along the lines of: Even though he was telling me alot about the dogs, I didn't think the info. would ever affect me.

They have said several times that what you see is what you get. Kate seems to be one of those people who says what they're thinking, no filter. Why pretend to be what she isn't?

 

[FoundMyPrince]

I missed the first ten minutes of the show...but why in the last 50 minutes was Jon mute? He looked like he wanted to talk so badly and just kept a smirk on his face or rolled his eyes.

(I just thought it was kind of funny since Kate is always telling him to stop interrupting or she's interrupting him.)

 

[KandD]

It's ok, I'm jealous of their storage. Weird, I know. I love the Expedit bookcase. They're not expensive, either, but I just can't justify buying it when I don't need it. Ho-hum.


You are really going to laugh...after the storage episode I went and bought the Expedit bookcase, it is EXACTLY what I needed but I never go to Ikea so I had never seen them before the episode. Their storage solutions are great though...did you notice the little cubbies they have for the shoes near the front door? You got to give them credit, for having ten people in the house they know how to organize!

 

[longstangetrip]

I'm sure there are things you think you or your children deserve that others think are a luxury. If she thinks her kids deserve the space, so what?

They have said several times that what you see is what you get. Kate seems to be one of those people who says what they're thinking, no filter. Why pretend to be what she isn't?

I think Kate should stop saying it because it makes her sound rude and entitled. If you think you and/or your kids deserve a 6000+ square foot spread for whatever reason, who goes around saying it?

We filter as adults because somewhere along the way we learn if we don't it hurts people's feelings and makes us abrasive and unapproachable. When the kids thanked her for the pups and she said, "You're not welcome" that is hurtful, and a terrible example of manners. When she's talking about the breeder and quotes him with "blah, blah, blah" that is rude and hurtful. You know he watched and probably told everyone he knows to. She has done this before (at the RR).

In this life, most of us are trying to build meaningful relationships with the ones we love; in the end that is all any of us has. She doesn't appear to be working it that direction. I think that is why she is so controversial. She is like a fictional character on a soap opera to me. I don't know anyone remotely like she appears to be.

 

[madge]

I think Kate should stop saying it because it makes her sound rude and entitled. If you think you and/or your kids deserve a 6000+ square foot spread for whatever reason, who goes around saying it?

my thought isn't so much this (although she does tend to sound entitled at times) as these are crappy economic times. Everywhere you look, there are people cutting back. Times are hard. I get that the Gosselins have won the lottery, I do. Bully for them. I don't begrudge them the house, or even the appliances. If I came into the kind of money they have, I'd do the same. There might be a different word to use other than deserve.

We filter as adults because somewhere along the way we learn if we don't it hurts people's feelings and makes us abrasive and unapproachable. When the kids thanked her for the pups and she said, "You're not welcome" that is hurtful, and a terrible example of manners. When she's talking about the breeder and quotes him with "blah, blah, blah" that is rude and hurtful. You know he watched and probably told everyone he knows to. She has done this before (at the RR).

I agree.

In this life, most of us are trying to build meaningful relationships with the ones we love; in the end that is all any of us has. She doesn't appear to be working it that direction. I think that is why she is so controversial. She is like a fictional character on a soap opera to me. I don't know anyone remotely like she appears to be.

I really do think she's become a character or sorts. Kate has come quite a long way from where she was in the first episodes. or maybe she hasn't .. maybe this is the Kate she's always been. Either way, she's a character, all right.

 

[madge]

They have said several times that what you see is what you get. Kate seems to be one of those people who says what they're thinking, no filter. Why pretend to be what she isn't?

I agree, I guess. No need to pretend. What a terrible example for her children.

 

[lucas]

I think Kate should stop saying it because it makes her sound rude and entitled.

Exactly!

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

I missed the first ten minutes of the show...but why in the last 50 minutes was Jon mute? He looked like he wanted to talk so badly and just kept a smirk on his face or rolled his eyes.

(I just thought it was kind of funny since Kate is always telling him to stop interrupting or she's interrupting him.)

The show was only a 22 minute episode.

It's ok, I'm jealous of their storage. Weird, I know. I love the Expedit bookcase. They're not expensive, either, but I just can't justify buying it when I don't need it. Ho-hum.


You are really going to laugh...after the storage episode I went and bought the Expedit bookcase, it is EXACTLY what I needed but I never go to Ikea so I had never seen them before the episode. Their storage solutions are great though...did you notice the little cubbies they have for the shoes near the front door? You got to give them credit, for having ten people in the house they know how to organize!

Absolutely! I'm an organizer/planner, so I'm always glancing in the background to see what bins and bookcases are here and there. Yep, nerd.

I think Kate should stop saying it because it makes her sound rude and entitled. If you think you and/or your kids deserve a 6000+ square foot spread for whatever reason, who goes around saying it?

We filter as adults because somewhere along the way we learn if we don't it hurts people's feelings and makes us abrasive and unapproachable. When the kids thanked her for the pups and she said, "You're not welcome" that is hurtful, and a terrible example of manners. When she's talking about the breeder and quotes him with "blah, blah, blah" that is rude and hurtful. You know he watched and probably told everyone he knows to. She has done this before (at the RR).

In this life, most of us are trying to build meaningful relationships with the ones we love; in the end that is all any of us has. She doesn't appear to be working it that direction. I think that is why she is so controversial. She is like a fictional character on a soap opera to me. I don't know anyone remotely like she appears to be.

Again, that is just who she is. We can all have our opinions on what we think she/they should or shouldn't do, but that's all they are...opinions. I also, seriously, think that the show would not be nearly as popular if Kate weren't, well, Kate.

So, you don't think she's building meaningful relationships with her children based on the 22 minutes a week we see them?

 

[longstangetrip]

So, you don't think she's building meaningful relationships with her children based on the 22 minutes a week we see them?

No, I don't. Nor with her husband, brothers, sisters, parents, in-laws, nieces, nephews, neighbors, etc.

But I feel pretty certain Amy Roloff does judging from her 22 minutes.

On this blog, as a fan or a perplexed observer, 22 minutes is all that we've got! If we say "don't judge from what we see" what is the point of discussion!

I agree, Kate is over the top and probably does increase the show's popularity A LOT!