Johnny Depp Fans Are Petitioning To Bring Him Back For 'Pirates Of The Caribbean' Reboot

[Tattylou]

Reboot?
POTC movies aren't even that old yet. It is too soon for a reboot.

 

[umichigan10]

Why are they even looking to make more movies? Forget the Depp stuff, the last one was awful. I feel like they should’ve called it after 3, but I know money’s money and they still made a good chunk overseas. But the quality was certainly lacking in 5, and 4 was meh at best

 

[luvsJack]

I actually liked 5. Loved 1, Liked 2, did not like 3, hated 4. I think I liked that some of the action with JD in 5 was more like it was with him and Orlando Bloom in 1.

BUT, I think POTC has run its course and I don't think a reboot right now or a 6th one or whatever they want to call it without Jack Sparrow is a good idea. I mean, if Johnny Depp had not created this great character way back in the first movie, how many people would have actually watched the second movie? He made that movie what it was. Well, him and Orlando together.

 

[BrianL]

I actually liked 5. Loved 1, Liked 2, did not like 3, hated 4. I think I liked that some of the action with JD in 5 was more like it was with him and Orlando Bloom in 1.

BUT, I think POTC has run its course and I don't think a reboot right now or a 6th one or whatever they want to call it without Jack Sparrow is a good idea. I mean, if Johnny Depp had not created this great character way back in the first movie, how many people would have actually watched the second movie? He made that movie what it was. Well, him and Orlando together.

Yeah, I actually like 4 & 5 more than 2 & 3 which I feel were too long and focused mostly on Will and Elizabeth, not to mention 2 has no Barbosa really, who is my favorite character.

 

[luvsJack]

Yeah, I actually like 4 & 5 more than 2 & 3 which I feel were too long and focused mostly on Will and Elizabeth, not to mention 2 has no Barbosa really, who is my favorite character.

That was my thoughts exactly on 2. The first one was a great mixture of some great characters and actors. Barbosa was perfect as the villain to Sparrow's anti-hero (not sure how to describe those two LOL). But they played off each other well. There seemed to be some great friendship/chemistry with JD and Orlando Bloom that made their characters really do well together. I really thought the second movie was too soon to change up the perfect combination they had going.

The third movie, I liked parts of it. When all the pirates came together. Keith Richards' cameo. Scenes with Elizabeth finally becoming a pirate. But the whole Calypso story was just a bit too much for me. And I HATED the scenes with Sparrow in Davy Jones' Locker. Just a bit "out there" even for a crazy pirate. LOL

Something else for me was that in the first movie, Johnny Depp was creating this character. He added in so much to it. And a lot of it was subtle. For 2 and 3 it was like they wanted him to play up the craziness more and more and for me, it became too much. I much prefer the Jack Sparrow of the first movie. With 4 and 5, it seemed to go back to the original Jack.

 

[BrianL]

That was my thoughts exactly on 2. The first one was a great mixture of some great characters and actors. Barbosa was perfect as the villain to Sparrow's anti-hero (not sure how to describe those two LOL). But they played off each other well. There seemed to be some great friendship/chemistry with JD and Orlando Bloom that made their characters really do well together. I really thought the second movie was too soon to change up the perfect combination they had going.

The third movie, I liked parts of it. When all the pirates came together. Keith Richards' cameo. Scenes with Elizabeth finally becoming a pirate. But the whole Calypso story was just a bit too much for me. And I HATED the scenes with Sparrow in Davy Jones' Locker. Just a bit "out there" even for a crazy pirate. LOL

Something else for me was that in the first movie, Johnny Depp was creating this character. He added in so much to it. And a lot of it was subtle. For 2 and 3 it was like they wanted him to play up the craziness more and more and for me, it became too much. I much prefer the Jack Sparrow of the first movie. With 4 and 5, it seemed to go back to the original Jack.

Yeah, I still enjoy all of them, but 2 & 3 are lower on my list. 3 at least had Barbosa more, and working with "the good guys" so that was fun. It is way to long though and the scenes in the white space are exactly where it should've been trimmed - a lot!

 

[jkh36619]

For me it went downhill after 1

 

[PaladinButters]

For me it went downhill after 1

1 -was great!
2 -was good on basis of Davy Jones only.
3 -well I won't watch that again but that should be the end, right/ trilogy?
4 - what's even happening with these?
5 - did not bother because I had seen 4.

 

[Sakiki]

Love them all, I have to say. And no reboot needed - all they need to do is tell the story from the after-credits scene in 5...

”Do you... fear... death?” (Tentacles thrashing madly).

Any excuse to get Bill Nighy up on screen is OK by me...

 

[Val56]

No. First, we really don't need any more Pirates of the Caribbean movies. (If they want to film a ride, how about a time travel version of the Carousel of Progress or a bunch of teens on Seeker's quest from Dinosaur?)
Second, Johnny Depp's personal problems go so far beyond the domestic violence thing that I understand why Disney wouldn't want him representing them any more.

 

[SgtTibbs]

I think they should reverse the trend and make an animated version of Pirates.

(Not really, I'm actually quite happy with the "Curse of the black pearl" and Disney's decision to never make a sequel.)

 

[BrianL]

I think they should reverse the trend and make an animated version of Pirates.

Now, THAT I could get behind!

 

[Micca]

how about a time travel version of the Carousel of Progress

I love this! Maybe we'd find out if Uncle Orville every got any privacy!

 

[luvsJack]

No. First, we really don't need any more Pirates of the Caribbean movies. (If they want to film a ride, how about a time travel version of the Carousel of Progress or a bunch of teens on Seeker's quest from Dinosaur?)
Second, Johnny Depp's personal problems go so far beyond the domestic violence thing that I understand why Disney wouldn't want him representing them any more.

Not sure which personal problems you are talking about, maybe the money he spent? But they have more and more proof that the domestic violence was Amber not Johnny.

 

[CampbellzSoup]

So I just watched the first three this weekend funny enough and the first two are really quality good fun movies....I don’t know what they did in the third....

 

[SeanWM48]

a few thoughts from a big POTC movie series fan

-huge risk by disney if they were to do one of these films without Depp. reboot or not they are very expensive to make and have big shoes to fill without him involved. he's a proven draw. i don't think they'll make it without him
-on that topic, i think they want to wait out this whole situation. obviously there's 3 sides to the story, we got amber's early, now depp's side seems to be out

-first trilogy is excellent and aged well IMO. rewatch and follow along and you really see how every character's motivations and decisions are mapped out properly. i thought it was a bit of a masterpiece but gets overlooked because of the length of 2 and 3.
-4 and 5 didn't live up to it. with 5, you go back and look at the production of it all and you aren't surprised. delays, rewrites, drama with johnny and amber heard and their dogs on the airplane, etc etc. i think all that got in the way of what could've been a bounceback film.

we've seen sequels come out that are strong and fair to the original story instead of being blatant cash grabs. i loved toy story 4, i loved bad boys 3. it isn't impossible.

 

[CampbellzSoup]

a few thoughts from a big POTC movie series fan

-huge risk by disney if they were to do one of these films without Depp. reboot or not they are very expensive to make and have big shoes to fill without him involved. he's a proven draw. i don't think they'll make it without him
-on that topic, i think they want to wait out this whole situation. obviously there's 3 sides to the story, we got amber's early, now depp's side seems to be out

-first trilogy is excellent and aged well IMO. rewatch and follow along and you really see how every character's motivations and decisions are mapped out properly. i thought it was a bit of a masterpiece but gets overlooked because of the length of 2 and 3.
-4 and 5 didn't live up to it. with 5, you go back and look at the production of it all and you aren't surprised. delays, rewrites, drama with johnny and amber heard and their dogs on the airplane, etc etc. i think all that got in the way of what could've been a bounceback film.

we've seen sequels come out that are strong and fair to the original story instead of being blatant cash grabs. i loved toy story 4, i loved bad boys 3. it isn't impossible.

three is a total over bloated mess...

- The Story is way too bloated
- Barbosa was turned from a perfect villain to unnecessary coming back,
- the pirate lord Story was lame.
- Elizabeth as the pirate king I’m rolling my eyes now
- Epic battle but Barbosa, the most villainous pirate ever, marry us
- The Kracken dieing off screen instead of shelving the whole unnecessary pirate lord storyline could have had that.
- The whole afterlife thing is so so so lame

really jumped the shark as the first two are just so fun.

the last two are awful because jack isn’t a hero and is fun in segments the movies still love a good hero and Will was perfect.

 

[SeanWM48]

three is a total over bloated mess...

- The Story is way too bloated
- Barbosa was turned from a perfect villain to unnecessary coming back,
- the pirate lord Story was lame.
- Elizabeth as the pirate king I’m rolling my eyes now
- Epic battle but Barbosa, the most villainous pirate ever, marry us
- The Kracken dieing off screen instead of shelving the whole unnecessary pirate lord storyline could have had that.
- The whole afterlife thing is so so so lame

really jumped the shark as the first two are just so fun.

the last two are awful because jack isn’t a hero and is fun in segments the movies still love a good hero and Will was perfect.

a lot of this is opinion, not that yours isn't valid, everybody's is. i was, and still am, a diehard fan of the series so i overlook a lot of the warts.

i found the conversational writing to still be as sharp as the first two so maybe i didn't mind the overblown story. agreed the pirate king thing went on and on and looking back at it, there had to be a better way to get to the end of the story than having Elizabeth get that role.

i don't mind the turn of barbossa at all really, pirates are pirates and everybody's switching sides all the time throughout the films

what killed me even more about 5 was that the writers in charge seemed like they didn't really know the storyline from the first films, yet they wanted to reference them. the timeline of Carina being Barbossa's daughter doesn't work. the story of Jack's compass completely contradicts its origins from the second film w/ Tia Dalma (a weak explanation was given afterward when everybody noticed).

 

[maverik85]

Yea I do feel like 3 could have been reworked some or condensed a little as itdid drag on a little at times but overall I liked it pretty well and the finale was a lot of fun. Really the Kraken dying off screen was the one main complaint but storywise it made sense for what they did and having it happen.

4 was the only one i found pretty meh overall, but still liked it to a degree just wasn't as good as the others. I felt 5 was a good return to form to the first couple and a nice set up for a new cast if they wanted to do more without the originals. If you ignore the post credit teaser it does work as a good ending as well with them breaking Will's curse and reuniting the family.

 

[BrianL]

Yea I do feel like 3 could have been reworked some or condensed a little as itdid drag on a little at times but overall I liked it pretty well and the finale was a lot of fun. Really the Kraken dying off screen was the one main complaint but storywise it made sense for what they did and having it happen.

4 was the only one i found pretty meh overall, but still liked it to a degree just wasn't as good as the others. I felt 5 was a good return to form to the first couple and a nice set up for a new cast if they wanted to do more without the originals. If you ignore the post credit teaser it does work as a good ending as well with them breaking Will's curse and reuniting the family.

I generally agree. I like all of the films, but I think they suffer from what many movies suffer from these days, being just a tad too long. Most movies, especially genre films, I feel like they could trim about 20 minutes off (maybe even 30) and it would tighten up their pacing. It's one thing when the movie is really good and you don't mind that extra time, but when it's just decent, well, that extra 20 minutes can start to drag and it makes the movie feel worse for it.