Jodi Arias Trial Part 4, starting with redirect of "expert" Dr Samuels, March 19

Update .., Now they are saying on Facebook that the Motion for Protective Order that was filed by the DT has to do with preventing some sensitive information from being presented in court ... One person said it has to do with the document that JM was questioning Sammy about at the end of day on Thursday (the one that the DT was having a fit about and then court was recessed for the day) ... But another person said that the motion has to do with preventing the disclosure of the detailed defense billing records that they have to submit to be compensated by the state ... So I don't really know what the protective order is about but I don't think it's against the woman who said "wanted her dead" which was originally thought ... I guess we will find out Monday if it's really important ... :)

It deals with sensitive material, which could include anything that would hurt her case, and those videos will certainly be damaging. Even though they apply for the application does not mean it will be kept out. The DT is doing all they can now as the state has blown everything to bits they tried to hide. If Juan isn't worried about it , I wouldn't be. He has done this long enough to know what a DT will try to do. I hate to think what he may find on the next expert.
 
Have a lot of catching up to do here since Thursday, but I'm catching up on HLN shows and they showed Jodi in the interrogation room singing and this is the song (she also sang O Holy Night at some point):

Here with Me (Dido)

I didn't hear you leave
I wonder how am I still here
I don't want to move a thing
It might change my memory

Oh I am what I am
I'll do what I want but I can't hide
I won't go I won't sleep
I can't breathe until you're resting here with me
I won't leave I can't hide
I cannot be until you're resting here with me

I don't want to call my friends
They might wake me from this dream
And I can't leave this bed,
Risk forgetting all that's been

Oh I am what I am
I'll do what I want,
But I can't hide
I won't go, I won't sleep,

I can't breathe,
Until you're resting here with me
I won't leave, I can't hide,
I cannot be until you're resting here with me.
 
Did any of you see the CA trial? They had two outbursts in the court room, Perry dealt with them right there and then. One woman yelled she is guilty, she got sent to jail and pay a fine. The second one got caught flipping off the prosecutor, he also got dealt with right there. He was sent to jail for a week. And I know there was a third guy. This is why some of us really like Perry. He was no nonsense. This judge should have dealt with her right away.

Don't worry about it

I watched maybe a grand total of 20 minutes of the CA trial, but one of the things I did see was the guy who flipped somebody off. I was at my grandpa's house and that guy was called out right away and I remember looking at my grandpa and saying "Holy crap, that judge means business, I'd be terrified!". But that's how it should work, this judge is so wishy washy and has let this trial drag on. She doesn't look like she wants to be there and doesn't seem to take into consideration that nobody else wants to be there either (except Nurmi and Sammy with what they're making per hour). Sigh, if everybody was like JM, it would have been over in a week.

It deals with sensitive material, which could include anything that would hurt her case, and those videos will certainly be damaging. Even though they apply for the application does not mean it will be kept out. The DT is doing all they can now as the state has blown everything to bits they tried to hide. If Juan isn't worried about it , I wouldn't be. He has done this long enough to know what a DT will try to do. I hate to think what he may find on the next expert.

At this point, the DT is grasping at straws and is doing anything and everything to preserve a little hope for Jodi. It isn't working. And like you said, if JM doesn't appear to be worried, neither should we. I was trying to find out how long JM has been a prosecutor and how long Nurmi has been a..umm...child molester protector? (haha one of those attorneys who has the cheesy commercials promising to get you off)


While I was looking for information, I ran across a facebook page and a few things were brought up. (Before I contine, I'd like to thank everybody here for being able to type a sentence and avoid a million spelling errors and making sure what you type makes sense. These facebook posts- OY! :eek:)

Okay, so one thing brought up was why wasn't the bullet casing tested for prints? There was an area that wasn't in blood. If she put the bullet in, her prints would be on it. Another person pointed out her premeditation in the past when she was in school and thought she might possibly be kicked out of her house at some point so kept everything at Bobby's house. Yet another person said that the reason there was a knife and a gun is to go along with the story of the two intruders. Each would need a weapon. Holy crap I hadn't even thought of that possibility!!! She was creating an illusion to match the story she would end up telling.
 
Ahhhh yet another thing! Men's clothes were found in the laundry-somebody suggested that Jodi wore Travis' clothes to prevent getting blood all over hers. Oh my!
 

I never thought of testing the bullet for a finger print. But that doesn't mean they haven't done so. She wasn't wearing Travis' clothes as the one picture showed she was wearing her clothes in the picture of her dragging Travis back in the shower. She was questioned and told the detective she has pants like that but they were at home.

I think this woman has used just about every story she has heard to her benefit. I can't wait til Monday.:cheer2:
 
Have a lot of catching up to do here since Thursday, but I'm catching up on HLN shows and they showed Jodi in the interrogation room singing and this is the song (she also sang O Holy Night at some point):

Here with Me (Dido)

I didn't hear you leave
I wonder how am I still here
I don't want to move a thing
It might change my memory

Oh I am what I am
I'll do what I want but I can't hide
I won't go I won't sleep
I can't breathe until you're resting here with me
I won't leave I can't hide
I cannot be until you're resting here with me

I don't want to call my friends
They might wake me from this dream
And I can't leave this bed,
Risk forgetting all that's been

Oh I am what I am
I'll do what I want,
But I can't hide
I won't go, I won't sleep,

I can't breathe,
Until you're resting here with me
I won't leave, I can't hide,
I cannot be until you're resting here with me.


She is creepy, sleeping under his christmas tree is really creepy!:crazy2:
 
Is this son of yours single? I could go for some airline perks!! We could go to the trial together!!

HAHA! He is not. He has been dating the same girl since the end of 10th grade. They graduated in 2010.
She has already been listed as his significant other and has all the same benefits as me and my husband. And it really upsets his sister too.
 
HAHA! He is not. He has been dating the same girl since the end of 10th grade. They graduated in 2010.
She has already been listed as his significant other and has all the same benefits as me and my husband. And it really upsets his sister too.

2010! Oh my, he's too young for me! His perks aren't, but he is! I guess I'll just let him get on with his relationship and I'll get on with shelling out too much money for airline tickets!:lmao:
 
2010! Oh my, he's too young for me! His perks aren't, but he is! I guess I'll just let him get on with his relationship and I'll get on with shelling out too much money for airline tickets!:lmao:

Dang! You thought you had it made..:rotfl2:
 
I was sitting here thinking to myself "Umm, just go out and pick an apple or orange when you want one!"....but 10 acres is a lotta fruit pickin'!!! What kind of fruit trees do you have? I want to come eat from them (that sounds disturbing)

I'd love for you to come down and eat as much as you want, anything to get folks to come pick it. :teeth:
I've got peaches, plums, apricots, grapes later in the season and pecans in the fall.

Alright fess up, how many are you reading? No wonder we don't hear from you for a while. You diss cheating...:rotfl2:

Oh lordie, sometimes I wonder what the record is for how many open tabs a computer can handle. :rotfl:

Saw this tonight ... Thought I'd share in case it hasn't been posted yet ... :)

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/22/was-jodi-booked-cancun-trip-travis
Reference Jodi having a ticket to Cancun: On one of those receipts shown in court (think it's the bank statement) there's a transaction with Orbitz or something of the like for what appears to be a flight.

Oh wow! That's the first I've heard that she was supposed to go originally. Can you say jealousy = motive?

I hope they don't take the cameras out - we're all too invested now. What would we do with ourselves 4 days a week?

Seriously, wouldn't have been really easy to track down flight information? Maybe see if Jodi had ever posessed an airline ticket. There are some things in this trial that don't add up but when it all comes down to it, Jodi has shown her jealousy and anger over things...including her curt attitude and demeanor when Mimi is brought up. Why is so much stuff just coming to light now? It's not like this is a recent incident that they're still investigating, they have it all...hopefully JM will bring it all up in closing (if he's allowed to)

Forgot to add about courtroom cameras. I wouldn't think they could pull cameras mid-trial (I bet UR knows). And how do "they" determine which cases should be televised live? Or was it because TRU tv had originally picked it up as they have for many trials and then somebody ruined our lives by getting rid of the live court sessions, so HLN figured they'd yank up some ratings?

One would think that someone would have checked for airline tickets, hotel reservations, etc. that may have originally been in JA's name and then changed to Mimi's ... So if what this "source" is saying is true, I hope JM gets to use the info ... Got to remember that sometimes not everything is allowed to be used during trial for one reason or another :guilty: ...

Probably the most important post in this thread!!!! :thumbsup2

Interesting updates about the protetive order, anxious now to see what it's really about.

And they better not cancel our live stream of this trial, I'll be hiring an attorney for us to stop that trial until we get our coverage! :lmao:

By the way, good morning, it's in the 40's here. :headache:
 
I'd love for you to come down and eat as much as you want, anything to get folks to come pick it. :teeth:
I've got peaches, plums, apricots, grapes later in the season and pecans in the fall.

All right, send off your address and I'll be there in a few weeks to get some peaches and plums. (No idea what apricots taste like?) and if they're purple grapes I'll wait around for those. If they're green, I'll pass.

It's in the 40s here too!! MELT SNOW, MELT!!!!
 
That is so disturbing. And not being that knowledgeable about legalities, I never understood sentences like "15 years to life"...seems like a wide span IMHO.
Isn't it the best???
How old is she?

I spent the day with my 2 lovies today, now I need a nap.
My DGD is 16 months and a bundle of energy. The night before I go to babysit, I start to think "I can't wait till she naps. " LOL Yesterday I had to go later than usual, and she was just getting UP from her nap. I was one sleepy grandma by the time I got home at 9 PM. But she's just so incredible...such a joy. I asked my DH quizzically "Did we like our own kids this much??" LOL
I didn't read the thread about all that but based on what I read a few minutes ago from KatieCoolLady, she and the Dr. Drew's Juror Katie Wicke, are friends. I don't think there is any competition based on what I have read. In fact, today KCL said that she was sitting with Katie Wicke the day she was "discovered" by the media. I also don't believe KCL is a groupie. She has, dare I say, compassion(not the Dr. SCAMuels kind) for the family due to her sister being a murder victim similar to Travis Alexander. Her sister was murdered by her husband and BIL for life insurance money. They are currently on death row. She has become friends with Travis' family and even sits with the family at trial. She has been with Travis' sister at an event outside of court. As far as the other people, I don't know. I am sure there are groupies on both sides, I just don't think KCL is one. All this is IMHO. And this may sound groupie like and my husband says I am crazy but I have thought about flying out to Arizona for Spring Break to see if I could get in the courtroom. I figured he could take the kids to go do something fun while I sit the courtroom. I really want to see Juan Martinez and Detective Flores in person. Heck, I would even want to see Willie and Nurmi. Jodi would scare the carp out of me.
I see that perky Katie person on Dr Drew, but really have no idea how she came about to be on the show. Was she just in THIS courtroom and someone from HLN interviewed her and then "the rest is history" as they say...they stuck with her? Who's KatieCoolLady from WS? Was she on WS before this trial? But now they're both in the courtroom? A Reader's Digest Condensed version would be good, thanks. :) Don't send me to WS...it gives me anxiety attacks...so overwhelming. :crazy:
MTE!
AND I am glad I am not the only groupie that wanted to fly out and attend the proceedings.... I would love to see them in person :)
Me too! I have a sister who lives near there who I could stay with, but I don't like her. :blush: :laughing:
My son works part-time for an airline so I can fly stand-by on many airlines.

He asked me if I wanted to go to Arizona and go see the trial... LOL

I think it would be so cool, but I heard Jingasaurus say there are people lined up waiting to get in every day.
Just pretend you're 12 and going to see Justin Bieber and camp out the night before.
Ok, I posted this question on WS to the attorneys on the board but I doubt I would get a response since those threads move so fast.

If premeditation can happen in an instant and saying that JA's gunshot first story is correct(which I do not believe) couldn't it go from self defense with the gunshot to premeditation with the knife to finish him off? So that way her self defense story is useless due to the extreme circumstances to kill him instead of rendering him helpless so she could get away. I hope this makes sense.
Yes, it does make sense, and I wondered about that too.
All I can say is, I hope Jodi was worth it, because his career is pretty much over.
Would love to know how this turns out for him. OK, with a certain degree of glee, I'd love to know.
Seriously, wouldn't have been really easy to track down flight information? Maybe see if Jodi had ever posessed an airline ticket. There are some things in this trial that don't add up but when it all comes down to it, Jodi has shown her jealousy and anger over things...including her curt attitude and demeanor when Mimi is brought up. Why is so much stuff just coming to light now? It's not like this is a recent incident that they're still investigating, they have it all...hopefully JM will bring it all up in closing (if he's allowed to)
Don't know who the source of the info is, but maybe nothing was actually booked, but that Travis had "planned" to take Jodi? Or Jodi planned to BE taken? :confused3 Interesting tho. I definitely think that trip was the final straw for Jodi.
Okay, so one thing brought up was why wasn't the bullet casing tested for prints? There was an area that wasn't in blood. If she put the bullet in, her prints would be on it. Another person pointed out her premeditation in the past when she was in school and thought she might possibly be kicked out of her house at some point so kept everything at Bobby's house. Yet another person said that the reason there was a knife and a gun is to go along with the story of the two intruders. Each would need a weapon. Holy crap I hadn't even thought of that possibility!!! She was creating an illusion to match the story she would end up telling.
I would think they tested everything for fingerprints. And I think the gun was already loaded. Maybe this is one gun her grandparents kept loaded just in case of an intruder, and maybe this is the gun she took because it WAS loaded. I know NOTHING about guns. But is there a way to tell, just looking at it, if it's loaded and if there are other bullets in it?

I have a new theory. :p Jodi shot him in the shower so the crime scene would be easy to clean up. But he didn't die and he DID lunge at her, and that's where she's getting her story from. I don't think he was in any way threatening with his lunging, because he's been shot. Then, she had the knife with her as back up because she either didn't know now many bullets were in it, or she knew there was only one. Once he was out of the shower, she was frantic and in a frenzy to kill him, and that's why the scene was so horrific. While he was standing at the sink, she stabbed him in the back.

In the frenzied activities of getting him back to the shower, and then trying to clean up, the shell casing got kicked to its final spot, on top of the blood. At first I thought it would have had to roll in the blood (so would have blood on all sides) but if the blood had thickened, the casing may have landed there and stopped.

And now, she's in a frenzy to clean up. She goes around frantically collecting everything, and scoops up Travis' clothes (which may have been left on the floor before getting in the shower and gotten bloody during the attack) and the camera and threw them in the wash. If she thought about the missing camera later, she may not have realized where it might have gone, and at this point, just needed to get out of the house.


:confused3
2010! Oh my, he's too young for me! His perks aren't, but he is! I guess I'll just let him get on with his relationship and I'll get on with shelling out too much money for airline tickets!:lmao:
I :lmao: at this!
 
I'd love for you to come down and eat as much as you want, anything to get folks to come pick it. :teeth:
I've got peaches, plums, apricots, grapes later in the season and pecans in the fall.

Reference Jodi having a ticket to Cancun: On one of those receipts shown in court (think it's the bank statement) there's a transaction with Orbitz or something of the like for what appears to be a flight.
When my DH gets home from work, I'm going to shame him about not keeping up with our 4 fruit trees. Which I guess could mean that *I* should. :scratchin

Can you post that receipt? I'll take a look for it too. I was thinking, per that HLN report, that it only says that Travis had listed Jodi as his guest, so maybe nothing had been official, and it was just a matter of changing the name with the organization he was traveling with. It also wouldn't surprise me if Jodi booked the flight herself with the intent of getting Travis to change his mind to taking her...you know...work her "magic". :rolleyes:
 
I have a new theory. :p Jodi shot him in the shower so the crime scene would be easy to clean up. But he didn't die and he DID lunge at her, and that's where she's getting her story from. I don't think he was in any way threatening with his lunging, because he's been shot. Then, she had the knife with her as back up because she either didn't know now many bullets were in it, or she knew there was only one. Once he was out of the shower, she was frantic and in a frenzy to kill him, and that's why the scene was so horrific. While he was standing at the sink, she stabbed him in the back.

In the frenzied activities of getting him back to the shower, and then trying to clean up, the shell casing got kicked to its final spot, on top of the blood. At first I thought it would have had to roll in the blood (so would have blood on all sides) but if the blood had thickened, the casing may have landed there and stopped.

And now, she's in a frenzy to clean up. She goes around frantically collecting everything, and scoops up Travis' clothes (which may have been left on the floor before getting in the shower and gotten bloody during the attack) and the camera and threw them in the wash. If she thought about the missing camera later, she may not have realized where it might have gone, and at this point, just needed to get out of the house.[/COLOR]

Exactly!! If you look at the picture of Travis on the floor of the shower (during the supposed photo session), that's the point I think Jodi shot him abover the right eyebrow, slightly to the right. And Jodi not being too well versed in weapons didn't realize that little pea shooter wouldn't kill Travis right off and especially since she aimed downward which put the round thru his sinus cavity going to his cheek, may have tried to get off another round and the weapon jammed (letting her use some of the truth for her ninja story the gun jammed). I think Travis came up outta that shower, looked in the mirror to see what she'd done and ended up spitting blood all over the sink and she started the numerous stabbings to his back. He ran down that hallway and she followed. Struggling (crawling) down that hallway, she finally cut his throat at the end and that definitely was all he could take.

All in all, there's no way this wasn't premeditated to some degree, she took that .25 there with the intentions to use it. If she used it to threaten him, she intended to use it and she ended up using it to kill him and did kill him with all the injuries he suffered.
 
Here is a thought, would all bullets be the same? Meaning if they took that bullet and compared it to the bullets from any of the boxes at her grandmothers home. Wouldn't each box of bullets may different from the manufactures ?
 
When my DH gets home from work, I'm going to shame him about not keeping up with our 4 fruit trees. Which I guess could mean that *I* should. :scratchin

Can you post that receipt? I'll take a look for it too. I was thinking, per that HLN report, that it only says that Travis had listed Jodi as his guest, so maybe nothing had been official, and it was just a matter of changing the name with the organization he was traveling with. It also wouldn't surprise me if Jodi booked the flight herself with the intent of getting Travis to change his mind to taking her...you know...work her "magic". :rolleyes:

Oh yeah!! :thumbsup2 I'll look for the reciept, it's in that bank statement, my problem is I get sidetracked reading even more stuff. :rotfl:

Listen, even four fruit trees can be work if you're doing everything suggested for them and we ain't got time for that! ;)
 
Is this the bank statement you were talking about UR?

gasbankrecord.jpg


It looks like the Priceline charge comes after the murder. Do we know where she went in the month following her arrest, or any mention of plans to go somewhere? (Besides camping with two guys she barely know and therefore needing another gun. :rolleyes: )

Unless I've just got the wrong bank statement altogether.
 
Is this the bank statement you were talking about UR?

gasbankrecord.jpg


It looks like the Priceline charge comes after the murder. Do we know where she went in the month following her arrest, or any mention of plans to go somewhere? (Besides camping with two guys she barely know and therefore needing another gun. :rolleyes: )

Unless I've just got the wrong bank statement altogether.

I was trying to figure out why she was at the Sac airport. Ugh near my home...
I can't see a date for it.
 
All this talk of meeting-up to see the trial - don't you guys dare plan one without including me!

When my DH gets home from work, I'm going to shame him about not keeping up with our 4 fruit trees. Which I guess could mean that *I* should. :scratchin

Can you post that receipt? I'll take a look for it too. I was thinking, per that HLN report, that it only says that Travis had listed Jodi as his guest, so maybe nothing had been official, and it was just a matter of changing the name with the organization he was traveling with. It also wouldn't surprise me if Jodi booked the flight herself with the intent of getting Travis to change his mind to taking her...you know...work her "magic". :rolleyes:

That's what I was thinking as well, that nothing was written in stone which made it easier for him to switch who he took.

Jodi seems to have worked her "magic" on so many men involved with this case it literally makes my head spin. It makes me wonder which direction her life would have taken and how many other men she would have ruined if she hadn't have been caught.
 















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