Job ideas?

I agree with this 100%. I get so sick of hearing all the teachers complain about their jobs around here (btw most of DH's family is educators). In PA, teachers get paid VERY WELL. They have every holiday off. They don't have to drive to work when the weather is bad. They get awesome health and retirement benefits. Maternity leave benefits are unmatched. Most school districts pay for continuing education. They have wonderful hours, especially if they have a family (ie they are off when their kids are off). Sure teachers may have to bring some work home in the evenings/weekends, but so do many of us. At least they have that option.

Whenever DH's family complains, I want to yell WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD! Sure there are a lot of bad things about teaching and most of us aren't cut out for it. But there are a lot of great things too. I work 45-50 hours a week, have to pay for all my classes to keep up my license (CPA), pay a hefty portion of my health benefits, have NO state pension, get off 7 holidays and 2 weeks vacation with no sick days, 6 week maternity leave, have to drive to work in the snow, etc, etc, etc. I can't go on strike if I don't like something...its either accept it or find a new job. I don't know anyone who LOVES work. Most of us try to find a position that we can live with :goodvibes I appreciate my current position and think the benefits here outweigh the negatives, but it is nowhere ideal.

OP- I think you need to look at what is good about your job/career and decide if you are willing to give up a lot of the things teaching provides. Maybe investigate some other school districts. But I wanted to point out that the grass isn't probably going to be greener on the other side!

Sorry to have to agree to this but I second Puffkin's statement. I work for a school district as a managerial/confidential employee. In my opinion teacher's have it made. They made GREAT money with GREAT benefits. TONS of time off. Remember a teacher makes their salary for essentially 9 months of work, not 12. So while their salaries may not seem as high they really only work 9 months. Also, how much time is actually spent teaching. Kids have at least 2 specials a day plus lunch. Kids go to school for 6 1/2 hours/day, not 8. So the amount of time a teacher is actually doing their job is about half compared to others. Yes I get they take work home. Guess what so does EVERYONE else!! My husband pretty much works 16 hours/day as he is always responding to his blackberry.
Teacher's also have lots of opportunity to make extra money. It's crazy what a teacher gets paid to chapperone a 2 hour sporting event. And don't get me started what they make to coach.
They get help with furthering their education. We are still paying for my husband's MBA and he graduated 6 years ago.
I could go on and on and on.
With that said I also feel that if you really don't like your job (most people don't) you need to look elsewhere. As a parent I want my children with teacher's who love what they do and love them.
 
I've been there! But I realzed sooner than you that teaching was not for me! Actually I did get a job in corporate training for a local bank after leaving grad school after 1 year.

I agree with the PP who suggested training as a good fit for you.

It's ok to realize you are not doing what you want! I applaud you for realizing this and taking the time to try and figure out what will be right for you. In the long run this will save you!!
 
I have taught off and on since 1991. I stayed home with my 3 sons when they were young - had 3 in 3 years! - and have worked full time with my 4th son. My husband and I worked opposite times so the youngest always had a parent with him.

I don't understand why people love to bash teachers. I love my job - it's more a life choice to be exact. I love working with kids and parents but it can be frustrating and stressful. The op was asking for ideas and I am all for people who don't view teaching as their life's work to not teach. Until you spend a year teaching and doing all the things that are uncompensated, thankless at times, parents who won't take responsibility for their child - don't bash or complain. We all choose to do what we do. If you want all summer off - go back to school and teach. Teachers need to teach by choice and for the love of children and when they are not, it is time to go.

Book publishers are a great starting point. There is always a need for trainers and workshop presenters. It would not be my cup of tea right now but who knows in the future. Currently, I am working on my TESOL certification to work with ESL children. I have found it to be intensely rewarding.

edited to add:Seriously, 2 specials a day plus lunch? Where is this at?

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I hated teaching in a classroom setting, but more for personal reasons. I am a germ-o-phobe... I have anxiety issues about being trapped (aka not being able to leave a classroom to go to the bathroom or something like that)... among other things.

BUT I LOOOOOOVE being a private tutor. It's really fun, kids behave because you're in a one-on-one setting with them. And, being in my own home, I am most comfortable. I make $30 an hour... where in my previous classroom setting, including all of the outside activities and everything else a band director has to do... I made about $4 per hour. Yes, that's right folks.

So, to the OP- don't get yourself down. I TOTALLY understand your pain. Seriously. You should look at working at a college- which is also something that I do while I'm not tutoring. College kids are great, so fun, and are coming into their own and it's really fun to watch. We get an extra 2 weeks vacation over the holidays, though we don't get summers or spring breaks off. Retirement is pretty good and even all the way around (professors, staff, administration, etc). And, you're still in education somehow.
 

Seriously, 2 specials a day plus lunch? Where is this at?

My thoughts too. Not all school systems have the money to pay for specials for every subject. The school where I currently teach does have specials in Science, Art, Music, Computers, Library, and PE. But I have also been in schools where the teacher (me) taught Science and computers (if you even had access to the lab, usually older grades were the ones who had access to it), Library was once every other week as were Art and music. Don't forget that at many schools teachers don't get their lunch and recess hours to themselves anymore. Due to budget they are often supervising during lunch, recess, and pick-up time.

Yes, teachers do make their money in a shorter time frame than a standard employee elsewhere, but under my contract it's distributed over 12 months not 9 or 10. Am I complaining, no. I like having an income over the summer months. As for only teaching a small portion of the day, there is a considerable amount of time spent lesson planning, preparing for the next day/week, and grading. If you are under the impression that every lesson that is taught by every teacher is canned (read word for word from an instructors manual) than you are mistaken. Yes, there are teachers who will do this, but many don't. If you want to create a lesson that best fits your classes needs, is meaningful, creative, and personal then you invest your own time in creating it.
 
I'm a teacher as well and would not want to work under the conditions you are facing. I looped one year - 5th to 6th - and was miserable. I like having a new group every year. :)

I also know the guilt, having two kids.

I don't have any answers for you, but I will say that there are few things worse than a teacher that hates teaching and still does, so good for you for reflecting. :)

I do very much appreciate the time off. I am currently off for two weeks, looking at another week in March, and two and a half months for the summer. It gives me time to recharge and spend time with my kids.

Anyway, I won't debate whether or not it is the easiest job known to man, as some seem to think. I do know that it is just not for some.

I hope that you find something that you can be comfortable with as you begin your family.

Take care. :)
 
Do you have credentials to teach middle or high school math?

I am a high school teacher (and have taught middle school as well) and went down to part time when I had my babies. I worked the first 3 periods of the day (7:40am-11:40am) and still was able to get my benefits. Now, that was in another state. Here in NC I would not get benefits unless I work a min. of 80%.

But I was home by noon and still had energy for my own children.

Dawn

I am certified only through 6th grade. In the district I work for, my personal safety is important and I will not go into the higher grades.

Why not try another district?

I am looking at other districts in the area. The one that I would love to work for, I was told, has a no hire clause with my district. So I would have to completely quit my job and HOPE I got one in the new district. Not very smart for me to do right now. I wish I could. I might jsut apply anyways and see what happens. The other district I looked at makes 10k less than I do now, and unfortunately I can't take that kind of a pay cut.

Woo wooo let's seperate some issues.
Ok, you know you want to start a family. Do you have kids right now? No. Then why are you feeling guilty over some thing that has not even happened. :confused3?

As for your friend, do you have any idea about the stress of running your own business? My family owned it's own restaurant for 40 years, Believe me, she is probably earning every dime of her money. Ask your friend how many hours she spends in that Burger King, how she feels about dealing with teenagers as employees? Lose the jealousy girlfriend. Your friend is working her tooshie off.

I think you need to sit down and make some long term goals. If starting a family is your priority then stick with teaching and save every dime so you can be a stay at home job. Are you planning on switching careers and then leaving after 6 months to have kids?

What do you like to do? You can go back to school while planning for your family.

Ok 1.. I am not feeling guilty now about the kids I plan to have, but I am 6 months married and am feeling pretty guilty about the lack of time I can spend with my husband. I can only imagine how I will feel once I have kids. 2. I never said I was jealous of my friend, I just said it is not ok that at BK mgr is going to make more than me when she didn't need a degree of any sort for her job.

I agree with this 100%. I get so sick of hearing all the teachers complain about their jobs around here (btw most of DH's family is educators). In PA, teachers get paid VERY WELL. They have every holiday off. They don't have to drive to work when the weather is bad. They get awesome health and retirement benefits. Maternity leave benefits are unmatched. Most school districts pay for continuing education. They have wonderful hours, especially if they have a family (ie they are off when their kids are off). Sure teachers may have to bring some work home in the evenings/weekends, but so do many of us. At least they have that option.

Whenever DH's family complains, I want to yell WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD! Sure there are a lot of bad things about teaching and most of us aren't cut out for it. But there are a lot of great things too. I work 45-50 hours a week, have to pay for all my classes to keep up my license (CPA), pay a hefty portion of my health benefits, have NO state pension, get off 7 holidays and 2 weeks vacation with no sick days, 6 week maternity leave, have to drive to work in the snow, etc, etc, etc. I can't go on strike if I don't like something...its either accept it or find a new job. I don't know anyone who LOVES work. Most of us try to find a position that we can live with :goodvibes I appreciate my current position and think the benefits here outweigh the negatives, but it is nowhere ideal.

OP- I think you need to look at what is good about your job/career and decide if you are willing to give up a lot of the things teaching provides. Maybe investigate some other school districts. But I wanted to point out that the grass isn't probably going to be greener on the other side!

Well... the PA teachers have it nice... here it isn't so swell like you think it is for all teachers. My benefits are not all that great, and if I want to get insurance for my husband and children when I have them, that will be more than I pay for our 2 cars for a month. Maternity leave... yea we get 6 weeks off... unpaid. So I have to pay for disability insurance just so I can have 6 weeks off. We have to pay to continue education and in fact are required to in order to keep our license. So that perk doesn't exist everywhere either. I realize people think teachers have all the vacations the students have, but sadly, we work. At least, I do. And I feel terrible when I am not working because I feel like I should be.

Sorry to have to agree to this but I second Puffkin's statement. I work for a school district as a managerial/confidential employee. In my opinion teacher's have it made. They made GREAT money with GREAT benefits. TONS of time off. Remember a teacher makes their salary for essentially 9 months of work, not 12. So while their salaries may not seem as high they really only work 9 months. Also, how much time is actually spent teaching. Kids have at least 2 specials a day plus lunch. Kids go to school for 6 1/2 hours/day, not 8. So the amount of time a teacher is actually doing their job is about half compared to others. Yes I get they take work home. Guess what so does EVERYONE else!! My husband pretty much works 16 hours/day as he is always responding to his blackberry.
Teacher's also have lots of opportunity to make extra money. It's crazy what a teacher gets paid to chapperone a 2 hour sporting event. And don't get me started what they make to coach.
They get help with furthering their education. We are still paying for my husband's MBA and he graduated 6 years ago.
I could go on and on and on.
With that said I also feel that if you really don't like your job (most people don't) you need to look elsewhere. As a parent I want my children with teacher's who love what they do and love them.

I also would like to know where kids have 2 specials plus lunch every day... I get lunch daily and then a break on Monday, Thursday, and Friday. And while most people in corporate jobs get an hour for lunch, we are lucky to shove our food down our throats before we have to get our kids.

I don't want people to get me wrong. I love kids and I do love teaching in the respect that when I see the students succeed I know it is because I helped them. But with the way things are changing in my school I am afraid I won't be able to be the best I know I should be. Maybe it is inner guilt and I feel like it is my fault when my students don't pass, even though I know it goes a lot further than the hours I spend busting my butt with them in class. Then there are other teachers that in the year and a half I ahve been in this school I have NEVER walked by their room to see them teach, they are just sitting at their desk. That makes me want to keep teaching because the kids need someone to teach them that will really teach.
 
I work with a lot of federal employees (as a contractor) and the one thing my career taught me is that the grass is always greener on the other side.

I see the benefits federal employees get (pension, raises, almost guaranteed employment, etc) and feel a bit jealous, yet they aren't happy because they think they could be making tons of more money in the private sector (99% of them couldn't, or they'd be paid less for the same job they're doing now).

If you really don't like teaching, get out - you've gotten a lot of good advice on this board, but think hard of what you're getting out of and for goodness sakes, DO NOT quit unless you have another job lined up.
 
Have you looked into applying at a private school or charter school? Often, they are able to make their own rules, so you could find one that doesn't do looping, and see if they're hiring for next year.

Also, try local preschools. Most preschools will pay more for teachers who are actually degreed and certified. (Especially the high-class "little-genius" type preparatory preschools.) You work part-time, so you still have time for your family, and the lesson-planning and prep are a lot easier. You're still utilizing your degree, but with a lot more freedom.
 
I almost quit in my 3rd/4th year of teaching. Our administrator was difficult, I'd had 2 difficult groups of kids in a row, and there were massive cuts going on. We had a new principal in 2006 and it's like a different place now. There are days I don't want to work, like anyone, and it's tough to work full time, run an extracurricular (I am the drama director), and go to school part time (I'm halfway through my Master's in Education). I'm taking advantage of this vacation to take a few days to decompress, then I have to do homework for class and grade a batch of stories I didn't get to before break.

It sounds like your school isn't a good fit for you. Don't give up on teaching all together. Try a different school, or grade. Even schools within a district can be very, very different.

When I was ready to quit, I looked for jobs that could utilize my English teaching skills. I looked into librarians (need a Master's and pay in our area was not good), journalism, copyediting/proofreading, local college, etc. I also sent my info to Sylvan Learning Center. As a math teacher, you might have luck in accounting, bookkeeping, or other areas of finance. As a teacher, corporate training might be a good fit, or adult education. My sister taught elementary school a few years and didn't like it much. She moved to the business world where she started as a corporate trainer and moved up to become a VP of Education in a large company. Unfortunately, her company merged with another company and her position was cut. Now she's working on her Ph.D. (Her former company paid for her to get her Master's a few years ago) while she's job hunting.
 
I am in my sixth year teaching third grade and teaching is NOT for everyone.
I still love it, but will quit at the time when I no longer feel that way. If you feel it is not for you, I applaud you for looking elsewhere.

I don't have any advice for another job, but I wish you lots of luck.
 
I had a post that was growly, changed my mind. LOL

My dh teaches at an urban middle school , it's frustrating but has its rewards too.
Good luck with whatever you decide. :)
 
Why not try another district?

Maybe its just here in Florida, but there are a lot more teachers looking for work than there are jobs to be had. Its not easy to just move to another district. The last job my DH applied for there were people interviewed with pHD's and 20 years experience...hard to compete with that!
 
Ok... For what it's worth, here's my story:

I got my BS in ECED in 1992. Taught 3rd grade in a private school from '95-2000 and LOVED it! During that time, I went back and got a M.Ed in Instructional Technology. I was offered a job as a technology coordinator in a public district which was almost double my pay. I took this position and worked from 2000-2008. My position was eliminated at the end of the 07-08 school year.

I was so mad, hurt, burned out that I did not want to continue working in education. I collected unemployment all summer and looked around. I took a position as a trainer for a software company in September of 2008. It meant a $7000 a year pay cut but in actuality, it is MUCH more than that "per diem" as I used to work 190 days a year and now I get a week's vacation and a handful of holidays off each year.

I love my "new" job. There are a lot of things that I miss about working in a school district - days off are what I miss most of all - but my kids are grown now (18 and 21) so those last couple summers off were actually rather boring since my kids were always off doing their own things. I didn't miss the summer off as much as I thought I would.

This Holiday season has been hard. I used to use those days off to get ready for and clean up from gatherings. Now I work on both Christmas Eve and NYE.

The things I DON'T miss are the POLITICS!!!! And I don't miss planning and report cards and conferences and _____ and _____ and ______...

My current job entails a small bit of traveling. I spent 12 nights on the road last year traveling to conduct "on site" trainings. I have already been to two cities that I have never been to before in my life and I hope to add many more!

I would just say - consider all your options wisely. I am happy with my new job but, honestly, the teaching schedule that I had was FANTASTIC when my kids were younger. I'm SO glad that we had those summers together to spend at the pool or hiking or just hanging out around the house.

I'll be thinking of you and I will be hoping that the best opportunity for YOU comes your way. Take Care!!!
 
I think the next best thing to being a stay at home mom would be being a teacher. You'll be spending way more time with your future family as a teacher then working in the corporate world. If I could stand the kids I'd go back to school and be a teacher. Think about this long and hard before quitting your job. In fact maybe you could work at something in the summer months when your off to see if a new job would be for you. Good luck.
 
One idea: Start a tutoring service and try to get your name out in the homeschool market.
Certified teachers -- well, those in the big four: English, math, science, and history -- CAN find tutoring work fairly regularly, and it pays well; however, I see that as a sideline, not a career. It would come without benefits of any type. It's also fairly easy for teachers to find homebound jobs for students who are too sick to attend school.

The way to find these jobs is by getting yourself on the county/district's list.
Yea you are right the hours would be worse, not to mention she has been working there since we were in high school. That is the thing. I am not willing to make minimum wage for 10 years when I am trying to start a family. I think deep down I know I am going to be teaching for a while because there really isn't much offered right now.
I have a cousin the same age as me who dropped out of college to become a fast-food manager (she'd worked at the same fast food restaurant since she was 15). She worked her way up through the ranks and eventually made it to a regional job -- and she doesn't have a college degree. She put in more physical work and more sweat than I do as a teacher, and she made more money. BUT the other side of that is that she has no retirement except what she saves herself. She's done well for herself, but she's the exception rather than the rule. I am still glad that I took the route I did. To be honest, she caught some lucky breaks to get herself into that regional job -- it's not something that one could count on happening.
I am teacher. Teaching is definitely not for everyone - they do keep changing the rules and requiring more of us for the same or less money (our district is requiring furlough days). I do remember those first 3-4 years of teaching and I did dread going in to work some days. There was so much to worry about - lessons, discipline, meetings... After five years, though, that stress seemed to disappear. I had enough tricks up my sleeve that the day to day was not dreaded. I think it is really important that a teacher loves their job because kids can see right through us, I am just not sure you have given it enough time.
I could've written this.

You're right that teaching is not for everyone. You have to have the right personality, and it doesn't make you a good or a bad person -- just the right person for the job. If you don't have the right personality/emotional make-up, it's not something you can fake. If you really think that it's not the right option for you, it's better for you to get out now BEFORE you put in enough years that you feel you cannot walk away from your pension (which is, of course, the only real financial benefit to teaching).

It's absolutely true that the first few years of teaching are SO HARD. Sure, you KNOW what you're supposed to do, but you aren't good at it yet. You're still learning the ropes. Then SUDDENLY it clicks (or you leave) and you learn how to head off most discipline problems before they happen. You have a backlog of old tests and activities in your file cabinet. You never get to the point that you don't have to plan new activities (you'll always tweek a certain activity, add a new reading activity to an old unit, write a better version of your test, etc.), and you always have TONS of grading to do . . . but after 3-4 years you have "enough" really good units at your disposal that you have some "rest" in between tough spots, and that makes all the difference. You learn how to schedule your class so that you're teaching an "easy unit" during the time that you have lots of hard grading to do in the evenings. You'll never get to the point that you can just walk into school and do your job without planning, but it will get EASIER.
I really and truly think that teaching is the BEST job for anyone with a family. You will have approximately the same vacations as your child and you will get out of work at a reasonable time. You will be taking work home every day, but I learned to work through my lunch break and while other teachers are chatting when they arrive in the morning, I am a working machine. I get as much done during the work day as possible and then whatever I bring home I work on between 9pm and midnight after my kids go to bed. I have friends that don't even get in the door from work before 6:30 pm. I don't know how they are able to get everything done that they need to. They see their kids for an hour or two at the most before they are in bed.
Teaching HAS been a great choice for me as a working mom, and since my girls started school themselves it's been especially good for my family.
Does your friend work eight months and get a years salary? . . . Extended time off at Thanksgiving, two or more weeks at Christmas, a week off for winter break, and three months off in the summer.
Let's get the facts straight: Teachers work 10 months/year. 200 days exactly; 180 days with students, 20 workshops and workdays spread across the year. STUDENTS get extended time at Thanksgiving, two weeks at Christmas, etc. . . . teachers always get less (actually, our students don't even get two full weeks at Christmas).
You are also part of a union, which means you have them to fight for your pay, benefits, job security, etc.
Again, let's get the facts straight: If you live in the NorthEast you're probably a member of a union and probably make a large paycheck (which you need because of the high cost of living); if you live elsewhere, you're probably NOT a union member and you probably make considerably less money.

However, dfchelbay, I do agree with your main point: There is no perfect job, and when you're dissatisfied it's very easy to overlook your job's positives and figure that "everyone" has those positives. The pension and the job security are the big positives for teachers.
I agree with this 100%. I get so sick of hearing all the teachers complain about their jobs around here (btw most of DH's family is educators). In PA, teachers get paid VERY WELL. They have every holiday off. They don't have to drive to work when the weather is bad. They get awesome health and retirement benefits. Maternity leave benefits are unmatched. Most school districts pay for continuing education. They have wonderful hours, especially if they have a family (ie they are off when their kids are off). Sure teachers may have to bring some work home in the evenings/weekends, but so do many of us. At least they have that option.
Perhaps things are very different in PA, but if you were looking at NC benefits, you'd be stretching the truth. We DO have good retirement benefits (but remember that it takes three decades of small paychecks to get those good retirement benefits, and if we move out of the state we start all over again), but my husband has MUCH BETTER health benefits, our maternity leave is a joke, and we pay for our own continuing ed. Bringing home "some work" is an understatement, though you're right in saying that we can choose whether to do it after school or at home.
They made GREAT money with GREAT benefits. TONS of time off. Remember a teacher makes their salary for essentially 9 months of work, not 12. So while their salaries may not seem as high they really only work 9 months. Also, how much time is actually spent teaching. Kids have at least 2 specials a day plus lunch. Kids go to school for 6 1/2 hours/day, not 8. So the amount of time a teacher is actually doing their job is about half compared to others. Yes I get they take work home. Guess what so does EVERYONE else!!
My great money for 2009 was a tad over $40,000 -- that's for 17 years experience. No, it's not poverty level, but I could make more elsewhere. And like most people, you're vastly underestimating just what teachers have to do "behind the scenes": Preparing for upcoming classes, coordinating with team members, maintaining websites, tutoring kids who've been absent or who have fallen behind, contacting parents . . . contacting parents . . . contacting parents, managing mandatory after-school activities (for no extra pay), completing special ed paperwork (yes, even if we're not special ed teachers), monitoring kids at lunch, and the one thing that eclipses all the others: grading. Kids are in school for 7.5 hours here, but teachers are required to be in the building 8 hours -- and then we take things home. Yes, other professionals take things home too, but my husband doesn't bring home nearly what I do. Also, his work comes in spurts; mine is constant all school year.
Have you looked into applying at a private school or charter school? Often, they are able to make their own rules, so you could find one that doesn't do looping, and see if they're hiring for next year.
Honestly, I wouldn't go that direction. You'd have the same problems that you have in regular public school, and -- if you go private -- you'd make even less money. I think your realistic choice is to stay in teaching or find something else. I wouldn't go for a variation on what you're already doing.
If I could stand the kids I'd go back to school and be a teacher.
It's not the students -- it's the parents! I like the vast majority of my students, and I teach seniors!
Think about this long and hard before quitting your job. In fact maybe you could work at something in the summer months when your off to see if a new job would be for you. Good luck.
This is good advice. Try something else in the summer, and you don't have to let go of your job until you've tried that something else.
 
I haven't read any other posts, but I tried to student teach and hated it. The job just wasn't for me. Later, I tried to teach adults and hated it again. Gave up on teaching. It's a great career, but not for everyone.

Thankfully, I can write. So, I fell back on that and worked my way up to a writer at a mutual fund company. I quit that after having my kids and immediately started a PT job as a copywriter somewhere else.

So, try to find what you're good at and love, and pursue that. My friend at the mutual fund company was a teacher for 7 years before switching to another job. Best of luck and follow your stomach. It tells you a lot (ie, by getting sick with dread...)
 
Certified teachers -- well, those in the big four: English, math, science, and history -- CAN find tutoring work fairly regularly, and it pays well; however, I see that as a sideline, not a career. It would come without benefits of any type. It's also fairly easy for teachers to find homebound jobs for students who are too sick to attend school.

The way to find these jobs is by getting yourself on the county/district's list. I have a cousin the same age as me who dropped out of college to become a fast-food manager (she'd worked at the same fast food restaurant since she was 15). She worked her way up through the ranks and eventually made it to a regional job -- and she doesn't have a college degree. She put in more physical work and more sweat than I do as a teacher, and she made more money. BUT the other side of that is that she has no retirement except what she saves herself. She's done well for herself, but she's the exception rather than the rule. I am still glad that I took the route I did. To be honest, she caught some lucky breaks to get herself into that regional job -- it's not something that one could count on happening. I could've written this.

You're right that teaching is not for everyone. You have to have the right personality, and it doesn't make you a good or a bad person -- just the right person for the job. If you don't have the right personality/emotional make-up, it's not something you can fake. If you really think that it's not the right option for you, it's better for you to get out now BEFORE you put in enough years that you feel you cannot walk away from your pension (which is, of course, the only real financial benefit to teaching).

It's absolutely true that the first few years of teaching are SO HARD. Sure, you KNOW what you're supposed to do, but you aren't good at it yet. You're still learning the ropes. Then SUDDENLY it clicks (or you leave) and you learn how to head off most discipline problems before they happen. You have a backlog of old tests and activities in your file cabinet. You never get to the point that you don't have to plan new activities (you'll always tweek a certain activity, add a new reading activity to an old unit, write a better version of your test, etc.), and you always have TONS of grading to do . . . but after 3-4 years you have "enough" really good units at your disposal that you have some "rest" in between tough spots, and that makes all the difference. You learn how to schedule your class so that you're teaching an "easy unit" during the time that you have lots of hard grading to do in the evenings. You'll never get to the point that you can just walk into school and do your job without planning, but it will get EASIER. Teaching HAS been a great choice for me as a working mom, and since my girls started school themselves it's been especially good for my family. Let's get the facts straight: Teachers work 10 months/year. 200 days exactly; 180 days with students, 20 workshops and workdays spread across the year. STUDENTS get extended time at Thanksgiving, two weeks at Christmas, etc. . . . teachers always get less (actually, our students don't even get two full weeks at Christmas). Again, let's get the facts straight: If you live in the NorthEast you're probably a member of a union and probably make a large paycheck (which you need because of the high cost of living); if you live elsewhere, you're probably NOT a union member and you probably make considerably less money.

However, dfchelbay, I do agree with your main point: There is no perfect job, and when you're dissatisfied it's very easy to overlook your job's positives and figure that "everyone" has those positives. The pension and the job security are the big positives for teachers. Perhaps things are very different in PA, but if you were looking at NC benefits, you'd be stretching the truth. We DO have good retirement benefits (but remember that it takes three decades of small paychecks to get those good retirement benefits, and if we move out of the state we start all over again), but my husband has MUCH BETTER health benefits, our maternity leave is a joke, and we pay for our own continuing ed. Bringing home "some work" is an understatement, though you're right in saying that we can choose whether to do it after school or at home. My great money for 2009 was a tad over $40,000 -- that's for 17 years experience. No, it's not poverty level, but I could make more elsewhere. And like most people, you're vastly underestimating just what teachers have to do "behind the scenes": Preparing for upcoming classes, coordinating with team members, maintaining websites, tutoring kids who've been absent or who have fallen behind, contacting parents . . . contacting parents . . . contacting parents, managing mandatory after-school activities (for no extra pay), completing special ed paperwork (yes, even if we're not special ed teachers), monitoring kids at lunch, and the one thing that eclipses all the others: grading. Kids are in school for 7.5 hours here, but teachers are required to be in the building 8 hours -- and then we take things home. Yes, other professionals take things home too, but my husband doesn't bring home nearly what I do. Also, his work comes in spurts; mine is constant all school year. Honestly, I wouldn't go that direction. You'd have the same problems that you have in regular public school, and -- if you go private -- you'd make even less money. I think your realistic choice is to stay in teaching or find something else. I wouldn't go for a variation on what you're already doing.It's not the students -- it's the parents! I like the vast majority of my students, and I teach seniors! This is good advice. Try something else in the summer, and you don't have to let go of your job until you've tried that something else.

Thank you for all that. I really think it isn't that I don't like teaching so much as I feel like I am not good enough at it. My kids are so below proficient it makes me sick, literally. I know it isn't all on me, considering they are in 3rd grade and something had to go wrong before they got to me to start off so far behind. But then on top of it, I feel like my lessons are not creative enough or good enough and it stresses me out, makes me cry, etc.

I haven't read any other posts, but I tried to student teach and hated it. The job just wasn't for me. Later, I tried to teach adults and hated it again. Gave up on teaching. It's a great career, but not for everyone.

Thankfully, I can write. So, I fell back on that and worked my way up to a writer at a mutual fund company. I quit that after having my kids and immediately started a PT job as a copywriter somewhere else.

So, try to find what you're good at and love, and pursue that. My friend at the mutual fund company was a teacher for 7 years before switching to another job. Best of luck and follow your stomach. It tells you a lot (ie, by getting sick with dread...)

And here is where that hindsight is 20/20 comes into play for me. I LOVE to read and wish I would have went to school for English so that I could work in editing or something along those lines. But, such is life.

I have thought about getting a part time "brainless" job just so that it would be something stress free to take my mind off all my work. I know people are probably thinking that here I am stressing about all my work and I am thinking of adding another job. I think that I work better under pressure. If I have time to sit around, that is what I do. If I am busy working then I can accomplish more. My first year of college I didn't have a job and didn't do as well as I should have. Next year I got a job and did great. Idk why that is, but it is. Maybe over summer I will try to get a job somewhere part time and then keep it a couple days during the week once school starts.


Thank you to everyone who gave genuine input and didn't just bash teachers for saying we are underpaid/overworked. If you truly believe that teachers complain too much and get paid what they are worth, I wish there was a way for you to test it out for even a week. You would change your mind.
 
If it is an option, I would suggest trying a different school. I worked in a very stressful school my first five years in the classroom and changing schools made all the difference in the world. I was also frustrated, not with the students, but the overall environment. You may also want to consider adding a certification to your degree like counseling or library. With this you still have the option of working with the children, but in a different way.
 
Those who wish to become teachers certainly shouldn't enter the field with the notion they are going to be wealthy. I have friends who are teachers and while I'm sure their jobs are rewarding, I sure do wish I could take summers and vacations with my family like they do. Teaching has it's pros and cons.

Frankly, I'd much rather work with children molding them and helping to make them good citizens than flip burgers for a living.

Good luck with your decision OP. I understand it's a difficult one but if your heart isn't in it, you are doing the right thing considering other options.
 


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