J crew ad?

[Aisling]

If that is what they were shooting for wouldn't it be BI from us?

 

[princesshannahsmom]

I'd actually be kind of jealous if the kid got polka dots. I don't know how to do that!

Not to get off topic, but they do sell these nifty little nail polish pens and you can make the dots with those, pretty cool actually, DD has a few.

Come to think of it, one of hers is BLACK, OMG, she might turn out to be an axe murderer since she wears black nail polish!

 

[pweyl36]

I was thinking the same thing.

And I still can't figure out why anyone would think that J. Crew did this to create a controversy, because I for one (and I see many others), DO NOT see anything controversial about it.

I honestly DO NOT understand the commotion. It was staged, it wasn't staged, it is a naturally occurring type of event or it isn't, who the HECK cares, because there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with a little boy who has his toenails painted pink....or purple or yellow with green polka dots. IT DOES NOT MATTER, he is a CHILD for pete's sake, NOTHING about painting his toenails ANY color is going to adversely affect this child, either now or in the future, so please help me understand what the problem is.

I don't want to hear that it is "confusing", because that makes no sense to me either. It didn't confuse my brothers as children to have photos of themselves in tutus and makeup, and so far, it hasn't confused my DD (11) by playing with trucks and guns and dressing in camo gear. My brothers know they are men and my DD knows she is a girl. My DD appears to "like" boys (so far!) and my brothers both have female spouses. BUT, you know what, if my DD turned out to be a lesbian and both of my brothers had turned out to be gay, WHO CARES, it wouldn't have a DARN thing to do with dressing up in girls clothes or in DD's case playing with boys toys, it would be WHO they are, and I for one, would love them JUST THE SAME.

 

[Aisling]

How is it 'Gay-friendly'? How is about sexuality at all? It's a little boy and his mom hanging out on a weekend morning.

Ok. That's how you see it. I see it as specifically using pink for a reason. We both could be wrong. I just know that advertising companies are really smart.

 

[kiddo76]

You didn't answer my question about how is it 'Gay-friendly'? Does pink=gay when boys are involved?

 

[ZellyB]

Ok. That's how you see it. I see it as specifically using pink for a reason. We both could be wrong. I just know that advertising companies are really smart.

Pink makes total sense from a KID perspective.

Kids love pink. Heck many adults love pink. Pink is pretty.

It's not until adults and society start to train little boys and little girls that "pink is for girls" that boys develop any aversion to it. Pink is a color. It has no identity other than what society assigns it. So, a 7 year old kid who has parents who deliberately don't reinforce these outdated societal norms would easily be attracted to bright neon pink. It's pretty. End of story. Or, should I say, end of non-story.

It's the same old, tired culture wars that people love to trot out. Boring. I'm heartened by the fact that the majority of posters here, at least, also think this is a non-issue.

 

[Aisling]

You didn't answer my question about how is it 'Gay-friendly'? Does pink=gay when boys are involved?

In my opinion, society sees pink for girls and blue for boys. I've never seen a pink layette set for newborn baby boys. That's just how it is. I didn't create it.

So yes, if an advertising company was targeting Gays, they'd use pink on boys. That's how I see it as Gay-friendly. I could be wrong.

 

[Aisling]

Pink makes total sense from a KID perspective.

I agree with this 100% and I didn't even think of it that way before you said it. Your statement has me changing my mind about the ad. (Even though advertising agencies ARE sneaky when slipping messages into their ads.)

 

[NHdisneylover]

In my opinion, society sees pink for girls and blue for boys. I've never seen a pink layette set for newborn baby boys. That's just how it is. I didn't create it.

So yes, if an advertising company was targeting Gays, they'd use pink on boys. That's how I see it as Gay-friendly. I could be wrong.

I have never seen a HOT pink layette set at all

Attitudes that "are" are not always right and do not have to be honored. It used to be that blacks sat on the back of the bus--it was just how it was, none of the passengers created it. It used to be girls could not wear pants. It was just how it was. None of those girls or their mothers created it.
I am glad some of those passengers and some of those girls and their mothers worked to change those attitudes.

 

[snapppyd]

Not to get off topic, but they do sell these nifty little nail polish pens and you can make the dots with those, pretty cool actually, DD has a few.

Come to think of it, one of hers is BLACK, OMG, she might turn out to be an axe murderer since she wears black nail polish!

Or a Green Day fan!!!

 

[Queen2PrincessG]

I don't understand why people are upset about this. ACCEPT! Accept others and their differences. This little boy likes nail polish. So what? He can wear shoes and socks to school so nobody there sees his feet. If he wants to paint is nails pink, then let him. Accept others!

Accept the fact that not everyone is going to accept things that are not the norm. This is not a normal mother/son activity.

 

[mjkacmom]

When ds8 was little, he spent most of the time with his sisters, because of the closeness in age. I have many pictures of him in pink tutus, wearing hair bows (he had lovely curls), and I always painted his nails when I painted the girls' nails (he never chose pink). Who the heck cares? Alas, he has to be one of the least feminine boys I know - rough and tumble, and has a tendency towards salty language (probably from playing video games with his older brother). The only time he played with a doll was when he ripped the leg off of one.

My sister bought my boys pink shirts for a family portrait, and he was like . Now, my ds who never played dress up, and only played with cars and legos, is more rounded (he actually wore the shirt again).

BTW, it's rare to enter a nail salon here, and not see any male clients.

 

[KristaTX]

I agree with this 100% and I didn't even think of it that way before you said it. Your statement has me changing my mind about the ad. (Even though advertising agencies ARE sneaky when slipping messages into their ads.)

Wow . Thanks for admitting that you changed your mind. Not very many people on the DIS admit it when they realize, "Hey - you know what? The other side(s) have a valid point." It's always refreshing when someone admits that they may not be 100% right all the time. Seems like lots of people on the DIS were born 100% purely, absolutely brilliant . And so were their kids .

ETA: I change my mind frequently because of things I read here. There are a lot of intelligent people on the DIS, too, along with those few whose intelligence is somewhat questionable.

 

[Aisling]

BTW, it's rare to enter a nail salon here, and not see any male clients.

But are their nails hot pink when they walk out?

 

[snapppyd]

Can someone define "normal" for me?

 

[NHdisneylover]

Accept the fact that not everyone is going to accept things that are not the norm. This is not a normal mother/son activity.

Umm, have you noticed how many people here have said they have painted their son's nails? Or had nails painted when they were boys? I think more have than have not--seems like it is fairly normal then doesn't it?




My sister in law just emailed me Jon Stewart's bit about this. Hysterical

 

[Aisling]

Can someone define "normal" for me?

I think when we discuss things like this, "normal" means what society as a whole accepts and expects.

 

[Queen2PrincessG]

i have no problem with the Gay, bi or transgendered community but I have a problem with the idea that a mother is allowing her son to explore these ideas when his mind is more impressionable than in a discovering mode. He will grow to believe that this is normal when it fact it is not. It's not normal behavior plain and simple. I'm a bit disappointed in J.Crew.

 

[rie'smom]

My sons both wanted their toe nails polished when they were little. What's the big deal? My daughter played baseball, is that a problem too?

 

[princesshannahsmom]

Can someone define "normal" for me?

While this is definately NOT my opinion, it appears to me, that many of the posters here believe that "normal" is what THEY say is "normal", or rather what "society" says is normal. You know, like girls wear pink and boys wear blue, THAT is what is supposedly normal. Not my opinion for sure, but then again, DD's nursery was a TAN Noah's Ark theme, so, I didn't follow the pink is for girls and blue is for boys scenario, never did really. If DD WANTED something pink, she got it, BUT, when she wanted an "army" suit for dress up, she got that too.