J crew ad?

[kiddo76]

It is perfectly normal for small children to explore gender roles. Even if you buy into gender stereotypes, children learn traditional gender roles through play and experimentation. Little boys have been imitating their mothers since the beginning of time. Letting a little boy 'act like a little girl' (in the stereotypical sense) can actually help them determine how to 'act like a boy.'

Which is why I'm shocked that's this has caused such a controversy. Even if you think there are hard lines between how men and women are supposed to act, children learn those roles through exploration.

I, for one, am glad that the lines are blurring between gender roles. This is one area where women have gotten the most benefit. Most typical masculine roles have become acceptable for women to adopt, but the reverse isn't true.

I am also shocked that people think that something as superficial as color and paint has anything to do with sexuality.

 

[Liberty Belle]

I would just like to say that it is my conviction
That longer hair and other flamboyant affectations
Of appearance are nothing more
Than the male's emergence from his drab camoflage
Into the gaudy plumage
Which is the birthright of his sex

There is a peculiar notion that elegant plumage
And fine feathers are not proper for the male
When ac---tually
That is the way things are
In most species

 

[kwelch10377]

I wonder if the people that think boy + nail polish = gay also think girl + no nail polish = lesbian???

 

[pospisil]

My cousin's DD used to paint my DS's nails all the time when he was little, I never thought a thing about it, except to be glad they played so well together. When he was 3 or 4, he played with her at gramma's for the day, and when we picked him up, he had pink nails, and was carrying a purse! A very pretty purse covered in pink sequins! And inside the purse? Hot wheels and a gun made out of Legos......

 

[rie'smom]

There is a huge difference between a dad having tea with his daughters and letting them girl him up and letting a young son do it. Its not about the color either, its the principal and the idea of normal. When does accepting end. Eventually this society is going to end up like a certain movie staring Malcolm McDowell.

Nope, no difference at all.

Geez, what is normal? Your normal is very different from my normal. My normal is different than other people's normal.
As far as the Malcolm McDowell movie, you cannot mean A Clockwork Orange because I know you aren't comparing a mom putting nail polish on her son to "ultraviolence".

 

[chell]

Don't see a problem with it at all. One of the fondest memories I have of my oldest nephew, who is now in his 20's and just fine, is him painting my toe nails and him letting me paint his. It was fun! We both had nail polish everywhere but it was a fun, bonding experience.

 

[RadioNate]

So I shouldn't tell you all that my nearly 10 year old, QB of the football team son just let his sister paint his FINGER NAILS with green DelSol color changing nail polish. It's purple in the sun, and he just left for football practice and the sun is still out!

I got $50 bucks that says no one even notices or cares.

 

[LaurenLC]

I don't see what the big deal is..... It's adults that force kids to conform. If the little boy wants pink nails then who cares? At least she's spending time with her son...

 

[okeydokey]

I think it is completely misleading to tell boys that it is ok to wear pink nail polish, or any for that fact.

But it is OK.

 

[Tiger926]

Wow! This thread makes my head really hurt...

It's funny to me how the OP has declared that she is the decider of what is normal. Based on most of her previous posts, that's a very scary thought...

I guess my 3 year old baby boy is in trouble, as he just used a princess plate for supper, and put on a princess helmet to ride his bike. Oh, the horror!!!

Tiger

 

[LaurenLC]

Wow! This thread makes my head really hurt...

It's funny to me how the OP has declared that she is the decider of what is normal. Based on most of her previous posts, that's a very scary thought...

I guess my 3 year old baby boy is in trouble, as he just used a princess plate for supper, and put on a princess helmet to ride his bike. Oh, the horror!!!

Tiger

Couldn't agree more!

 

[Wall-E1]

I thought the nail polish was a very nice shade for Spring. It complimented his dark striped shirt very nicely.

My son has had his nails done by me in the past. He has had girls do his nails in school. He has tried on a dress here and there. It hasn't had a negative effect on his sexual identity. He has been in a stable relationship with a lesbian llama for over a year now.

I have had my nails done before. In fact, while helping out at a friend's summer camp program, I had an entire beauty makeover - hair, nails, make up. Sure, I ended up looking like a french prostitute and went home completely confused about my sexual identity, but for a few minutes I was the prettiest girl out there.

So, being serious now, I don't see any issues with that ad. But I'm sure some group will try to boycott that brand, or use the ad to advance their homophobic and hate filled ideology.

 

[kiddo76]

There is a huge difference between a dad having tea with his daughters and letting them girl him up and letting a young son do it. Its not about the color either, its the principal and the idea of normal. When does accepting end. Eventually this society is going to end up like a certain movie staring Malcolm McDowell.

Says the grown woman who likes fairytale princesses, visiting a fake castle, and meeting other adults dressed up as humanoid animals. Which are all things I enjoy, but aren't exactly 'normal' things for adults to enjoy.

I was having a hard enough time with pink+boy=gay. Now pink+boy+nail polish=a dystopian future marked by ultraviolence?

My head is about to explode.

 

[LilyWDW]

I wonder if the people that think boy + nail polish = gay also think girl + no nail polish = lesbian???

Guess I better tell my boyfriend of 9.5 years that I need to leave him for a woman... I also played with He-man, legos, and plastic dinosaurs as a child so I should have seen it coming.

I am sad that people can be so judgmental.

 

[disfan07]

How come it's okay for a girl to play football but it's not okay for a little boy to dress up in a pink tutu?? All together now...can we say hypocrites??? Or are you just against anything that is not "traditional"

Everyone who thinks this is so wrong...do you still believe that all boys and girls should be following only the stereotypical gender rolls because well...those just piss me off. I grew up playing football, baseball, hockey, etc and I plan on workig a fulltime job even when I have kids. My brother is engaged and his finace is getting a degree that will be much more lucrative than his degree....so they already talked about it and if they want a parent to stay home, it will be him if she is making more money.....OH THE HORROR We are going againts the traiditonal gender roles....OMG my parents must have really screwed up!

When I worked in a preschool we had little boys come in all the time with their nails painted. A lot of times it was that they saw their mom doing it or their sister and they thought it was fun. We saw green, blue, pink, purple, yellow, etc.

What is "normal" is changing. Unfortunately people like the OP don't seem to get that. There really is no "normal" anymore. There's very little that society as a whole agrees on anymore so there is very little that is "normal" by society beliefs anymore.

And being gay or straight is the way you are born. Playing dress up and wearing nail polish is not going to turn a little boy gay. It doesn't work that way. Unfortunately, a lot of people who have problems with things like this believe that being gay is a choice and something you can change so that gets thrown in there as well....They just can't admit that it's not a choice that people make but it's just the way they are biologically...

 

[Guy Incognito]

Says the grown woman who likes fairytale princesses, visiting a fake castle, and meeting other adults dressed up as humanoid animals. Which are all things I enjoy, but aren't exactly 'normal' things for adults to enjoy.

I was having a hard enough time with pink+boy=gay. Now pink+boy+nail polish=a dystopian future marked by ultraviolence?

My head is about to explode.

no, no.... you get the 'ultraviolence' when the little boys grow up to wear all white jumpsuits with a cricket groin protector on the outside, black jackboots, black bowler hats, a single fake eyelash and hang out at the Korova milk bar with their droogies drinking milk-plus and listening to Ludwig Van....

 

[crashbb]

There is a huge difference between a dad having tea with his daughters and letting them girl him up and letting a young son do it. Its not about the color either, its the principal and the idea of normal. When does accepting end. Eventually this society is going to end up like a certain movie staring Malcolm McDowell.

But will society know the difference between principAL and principLE? And will it know that a question should end with a question mark? Will it know the difference between "its" and "it's"?

These are the things that are truly important.

 

[A_Princess'_Daddy]

There is a huge difference between a dad having tea with his daughters and letting them girl him up and letting a young son do it. Its not about the color either, its the principal and the idea of normal. When does accepting end. Eventually this society is going to end up like a certain movie staring Malcolm McDowell.

Are you thinking Bolt or The David Cassidy Story?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000532/

Anyways, I find your opinions sad, scary, wrong and just plain misguided.

 

[Guy Incognito]

There is a huge difference between a dad having tea with his daughters and letting them girl him up and letting a young son do it. Its not about the color either, its the principal and the idea of normal. When does accepting end. Eventually this society is going to end up like a certain movie staring Malcolm McDowell.

just a side note to this:


read the book... the movie cuts out the final chapter, which (to me) is the whole point of the story....

 

[kiddo76]

no, no.... you get the 'ultraviolence' when the little boys grow up to wear all white jumpsuits with a cricket groin protector on the outside, black jackboots, black bowler hats, a single fake eyelash and hang out at the Korova milk bar with their droogies drinking milk-plus and listening to Ludwig Van....

Oh! Phew, I was getting worried. Thank goodness cricket isn't very popular in the US, so I should be safe.

Or maybe pink+boys+nail polish=cricket players