J.C Penney shopper's~ head's up

I went there today. DD16 needed shorts. I also saw some tops online for 14 (I checked yesterday tomake sure they were still 14). Well we go today, and DD got some decent shorts, some were 15 each some were 10. I thought those were great prices, plus the 20per off. My shirts were now 20.00 :eek:. Well I was hoping they were still on sale online... nope :headache:.

So I wrote an email telling them it was much better the other way and that they lost a sale because I wasn't going to spend 20.00 on the shirts or even 16 with the coupon. Shockingly, I received an email saying to call them and reference my file, and I can have the shirts for 14.00! :thumbsup2:thumbsup2 I was very pleasantly surprised. I didn't expect that, and am not sure what I am going to do, but that is pretty good customer service.

I did feel prices all around where much higher today then they have been.

And I am a shopper that goes in when we need something.
 
I like to buy my bras there. Good quality. We have found shoes sometimes, but I am very picky on shoes, so anywhere I will be picky.
 
I agree that coupons are crap but my issue with JCP is that along with that they thinned out their store to the point that I could find nothing to buy. There was zero selection. And it didn't help that they went to the minimalist look, lowered prices and then decided to make over all the stores. It made even going through the store to get to the mall a nightmare. Personally I would have done the makeover, then introduced the new pricing/campaign as a reboot of the JCP brand.

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I've been much happier since JCPenney brought back coupons. I get what they were trying to do before, but I don't think their everyday low price was cheaper than kohl's or Macy's regular price. Plus the other big stores always offer coupons. Now I feel like they are all on a level playing field. And I love the plus sized women's selection at JCP!! Makes me a happy girl!!!
 

I agree that coupons are crap but my issue with JCP is that along with that they thinned out their store to the point that I could find nothing to buy. There was zero selection. And it didn't help that they went to the minimalist look, lowered prices and then decided to make over all the stores. It made even going through the store to get to the mall a nightmare. Personally I would have done the makeover, then introduced the new pricing/campaign as a reboot of the JCP brand.

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That was my problem. I could hardly find anything n the store I liked or looked good on me. They also cut the kids department so thin. I used to take that $10 coupon and spend an additional $40-$60 on my boys. Now I can't find anything for them. I understood what they were trying to do. I didn't hate the new pricing, but I wasn't a huge fan.
 
I used to shop at JC Penney pretty often, and for sure every time I got a coupon. I didn't have a problem with lower prices and no coupons. What I had a problem with was that the brands/items I bought most often did not have their prices lowered, and since there were no coupons to use at JCP I found that I could get a better price elsewhere. In addition, the selection in our store was cut in half, I'd estimate. I've looked a few times and found absolutely nothing I was willing to buy. There are a lot of nice bright colors that look pretty on the racks, but they aren't in styles that I'd actually wear, and/or the fabric is so thin I can see through it.

I would like the "old" JC Penney back. :(
 
JCP tried to give us all what we wanted, when it was most convenient for us...

No door busters, no crap flyers that you have to chase down to get a good deal.... and now.... it's all going backward.

I really like the new pricing strategy - it just made sense, it was customer friendly, and I got the best deals I had ever had at JCP!

I really hope that the company doesn't go under, I enjoy shopping at JCP!

If it was indeed what everyone wanted, the strategy would have worked. It didn't. And I don't think only because people like using coupons, or feeling they are getting a deal. They also changed their clothing assortment and quality at the same time, and to many of us, it was not for the better.

I hope not only do they bring back sales ( I really miss the buy 1 get 1 sales) but they bring back some of their old clothing assortment. As I said before, I used to shop JCP but haven't found anything to buy there as of late.
 
My problems at JCP have more to do with the selection and quality then with the pricing. They cut down the selection soo much its hard to find anything I even want to try on for me or the kids. And then when I do see something cute the material is so thin you can see through it. Although in JCPs defense, I am finding the problem with ridiculously thin material at a lot of stores recently. It's very frustrating.
 
My problems at JCP have more to do with the selection and quality then with the pricing. They cut down the selection soo much its hard to find anything I even want to try on for me or the kids. And then when I do see something cute the material is so thin you can see through it. Although in JCPs defense, I am finding the problem with ridiculously thin material at a lot of stores recently. It's very frustrating.

Totally agree with this. I liked the new pricing, because I'm not so great at the couponing thing. The selection is way worse now, and I can't ever seem to find anything I want. I used to love Penney's, but I can't find anything in there to buy these days. It's nice that Sephora's in there, but it's pretty expensive.
 
I used to buy 95% of DD's clothes there. As she got older, I bought less and less, mainly because I felt their clothes were too 'old' for her age group. I could, however, always find Arizona bermuda shorts with an adjustable waist which was awesome. I've stopped in once or twice in the last year and the girl's section is practically gone. The shorts I used to find for under $10 were now closer to $20 and quite frankly, I could find similar styles elsewhere for less.

I had a $15 off $15 coupon last week and needed spanx (don't judge :rotfl:). The maidenform type was $50. The exact same item at Target was $24. It's on clearance at maidenform's website for less than $20. :confused3 Why again would I shop at Penny's? My dad and mom went there a few months ago to get custom curtains like they've done for decades, but had absolutely no luck. I had no problem with the lack of coupons, but they had nothing I wanted to buy.
 
I agree about the see-through shirt problem being everywhere -- in most stores. I've had to buy an entire new set of camisoles and t-shirts to wear under shirts because every thing is now see through. It is ridiculous. I'll happily pay $5 more for a shirt if it means I can have a thick enough shirt where I don't have to buy a 2nd shirt to wear under it or a blazer to wear over it.

I'm sick of the low cut stuff that puts my chest out there for the world to see too. See through and low cut are great looks when you are twenty and in an appropriate environment for that sort of stuff (not an office). 45 year old ladies who are dressing for work -- not so much.
 
My problem with the "new" JCP began as soon as the make over started. I was not in the "cool" demographic that JCP wanted, apparently (Mid-level, middle-aged, white Collar professional DINK, yeah. You really want to ignore that disposable income.), so while my co-workers (with kids and a lot less $$$ to spend) got the thick new catalogs, I got nothing. So, yeck yeah, my nose was out of joint. This continued, and, hey, if you don't want my business, I've got no problems going to your competitors, buddy.

Then they started thinning out the merchandise, giving me less choices.

If they'd tried just the new pricing strategy, they might have had some luck. That wasn't what has turned me into a non-JCP shopper. It was their decision that I wasn't someone they wanted to court as a customer and that the actual choices in their store were either abysmal or none.

Oh, and the CEO saying last spring that we, the consumers, were too stupid to understand what he was doing? Oh yeah. That sent me toTJ Maxx or Macy's instead of JCP on several occasions.

If JCP goes under, there is one single person at whose feet we can put the blame.
 
I agree that coupons are crap but my issue with JCP is that along with that they thinned out their store to the point that I could find nothing to buy. There was zero selection. And it didn't help that they went to the minimalist look, lowered prices and then decided to make over all the stores. It made even going through the store to get to the mall a nightmare. Personally I would have done the makeover, then introduced the new pricing/campaign as a reboot of the JCP brand.

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I totally agree. I can't even find sheets in my stores here. Very little selection within all their little sections. My family used to love JCP now even when my kids go who are 17 and 13 they find nothing and ask to go to a different store to shop at.
 
They are raising them so they can lower them down for a sale and give coupons. I work for JCPenney and I really hope and pray that the company doesn't close. It's an American icon that has been around for a very long time.

I completely agree. It's sad when longtime companies fail.
In comparison to taking a WDW vacation, we're all accustomed to % off, whether it be room% or FD or seasonal% and can you imagine the uproar IF they did away with that.:sad2:
 
They are raising them so they can lower them down for a sale and give coupons. I work for JCPenney and I really hope and pray that the company doesn't close. It's an American icon that has been around for a very long time.

I really do hope that the new CEO will turn things around and rescue JCPenney. It was such a go-to store for me for so long, and nothing else fills its spot very well. I also worry about the people that will be unemployed if it goes under.

Prayers to you, chisnpeke, and my feverent hope that everything will work out.
 
Oh, and the CEO saying last spring that we, the consumers, were too stupid to understand what he was doing?

Yeah, I love that attitude. Love it from people who respond to threads like this, too. They simply won't take people at their word that they truly cannot, now, find things at as good a prices as they did before. They like to pretend that NO ONE was getting great deals and that we're just so blinded by the "you saved" notation at the bottom that we ignored the price we paid compared to what we bought.

It's only been very very recently that I'm starting to see the sort of deals I was seeing before. I'm fully in the market for new clothes as I continue to lose weight and will continue to be in the market until I'm in maintenance; I have no other options, since I had donated a whole bunch of my small clothes, thinking I was just too old and would never lose weight (right before I rejoined WW and found out I was wrong, so happily wrong).

I've only been in to the store because DH can still find clothes there in his big/tall size, and they are decent prices (Casual Male is SOOOO expensive). Because we bought him quite a few clothes, so as to avoid a public nudity arrest from his pants falling off (he went down a solid two sizes in pants so far, woo!), we got the $10 certificates, and that has brought me back in. And now I'm seeing prices that I like, vs the high prices I did NOT like.

Maybe some people, shopping in the ways THEY shopped (and not the way I shopped), have found better prices after the change, but I had not.


Oh wait, I did buy a puffy coat a few months back. I *wanted* to replace a coat I bought on a whim just before starting the weight loss, hoping they would have the EXACT item. They had something that looked like my coat but felt TOTALLY different. The fabric both inside and out was just cheaper; felt worse, looked worse, and was NOT worth the money. I needed a coat that fit, however, so I bought a coat for much more than I felt it was worth, because I needed it.


Coupons are CRAP and create a culture of customers who are only loyal when they have coupons in hand.

JCPenney tried to create a best price every day strategy so you didn't have to game the system, wait till the store had a sale to buy what you needed instead of buying it when YOU wanted to buy it... etc etc

We obviously shop very differently. I went there when I thought of them AND had something to buy. I thought of them when I would get a flyer or coupon or something. But I still had to wait until I needed or wanted something, or the price was just soooo good I didn't want to pass it up.

Until very very recently, I simply did not think of them. THAT is what they caused with me. And when I did think of them, if I parked near their store because it's most convenient at my mall, and walked through to get to another store at the mall, I saw almost nothing I liked and no prices I liked.

Because of the two $10 certificates we got after DH's shopping was done, I bought DS a belt that he has needed for awhile, and I bought myself a sparkly dress, purchased online and ship to store (ugh what a bizarre thing that is...one email and then at least a week, and then a phone call...why not an EMAIL?????), which got me in the store twice recently. And I have found literally nothing else worth buying or worth buying at the price they are charging.

Although in JCPs defense, I am finding the problem with ridiculously thin material at a lot of stores recently. It's very frustrating.

Definitely, and for a few years now. But at Old Navy they have $2.50 camisoles right there, and if you buy a sweater there it's a fairly normal sweater, but I found no camisoles at JCP in obvious places and the sweaters I saw on my recent excursions were half-thickness, too!


It was just a couple years ago, while preparing for our December 2010 WDW trip, that I bought a ton of stuff there, and the quality was good, the prices were good (sure I used the clearance racks and a coupon or two). Now that I have to replace it all b/c of the weight loss, I'm just not finding the quality. I'm buying *almost* exclusively at Old Navy right now for myself (and for DS as well).


And they might turn even DH away, because on his most recent shopping excursion we had to SEARCH the store for his section! They didn't have his clothing area labeled at all, and I had to figure out where his clothes were *literally* by noticing that *this* area had bigger shirts on the rack. No "big and tall" signage whatsoever. And no employees around anywhere except socked in at the registers. It was ridiculous.



Sidenote because it amused me....while waiting for the cashier to get my sparkly dress from the back, another employee came into the corral (what I'm calling the cash register areas). She was wearing a minidress with long bell sleeves, nylons, and to-the-knee boots. That outfit, combined with the cross-body strap that held her little scanner/check-out thing that many employees are wearing right now (which is, I admit, kinda cool...DH was checked out where we stood by an employee with one of them), made her look like a Star Trek crew member. :)
 
I really do hope that the new CEO will turn things around and rescue JCPenney. It was such a go-to store for me for so long, and nothing else fills its spot very well. I also worry about the people that will be unemployed if it goes under.

Prayers to you, chisnpeke, and my feverent hope that everything will work out.

:thumbsup2 ITA!
 
I like JCP and still shop there. I just feel the new group of employees that they hired look totally unprofessional though. The girl in the shoe department had jeans and tennis shoes on. Really???? I like how Macy's workers all wear black so they are a little easier to spot when you need them and look professional. Also, the dressing rooms at my store are so old fashioned and a little gross. They need at least some new paint and flooring. They would look a little more contemporary like Kohls.
 
I like JCP and still shop there. I just feel the new group of employees that they hired look totally unprofessional though. The girl in the shoe department had jeans and tennis shoes on. Really???? I like how Macy's workers all wear black so they are a little easier to spot when you need them and look professional. Also, the dressing rooms at my store are so old fashioned and a little gross. They need at least some new paint and flooring. They would look a little more contemporary like Kohls.

That was Ron Johnson's idea as well. Have a casual work environment so employees could be comfortable. Trouble with that is people take it too far. I will wear jeans sometimes, but for the most part I wear khaki pants like I did before. I do like working for JCPenney. The management is overall very nice to the employees. It's not a job that pays the bills very well, but it's a job until I am done with school.
 















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