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tammyandtommy

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Ok ladies and gents! Here the skinny! I have been looking for a puppy! I live in Pa, I found a puppy in Missouri! My husband thinks its absurd to drive the 17 hrs each way to get the puppy! LOL Ok ok I admit it is kind of crazy. BUT I had a thought! Is there anyone out there willing to create a puppy delivery chain? The puppy is about 20 minutes from Branson. I can drive half way! That is his limit! LOL Anyone interested? I looked into flying him, but he is too small, he needs to be more thatn 3 lbs and he is a xtra small breed. I looked into pet courier and they want 500 plus! I can provide gas reimburseents! Its worth a post! Who can you trust out there? I know my Disboard friends are trustworthy! Let me know if your interested in a small weekend road trip!
 
Since this is going to be YOUR puppy you need to go get it yourself.

Frankly, MO is a puppy mill state capital and more than likely the puppy is from a puppy mill. This puppy may be sick or have other health issues. You really need to do a personal assessment and not rely on strangers.

Look elsewhere. You need to be able to check out the breeding parents.

That is just my 2cents.
 
Out of curiosity:

Why would you buy a dog from a breeder you haven't been able to check out personally? Also, why would you entrust a stranger from the internet to pick up and deliver your dog?
 

First of all, who in their right mind would undertake the liability of safely transporting a live animal for a stranger on the internet??? What if the animal gets sick/dies? What if the driver crashes? Who wants the possibility of a lawsuit on their hands, or the guilt associated with that?

Second, i agree with the others. Buying a dog sight-unseen, out-of-state, without knowing a thing about the breeder or the parents of the puppy SMACKS of puppy mill. And of course, what breed of dog is "extra small"? If it has the word teacup in it, it's a designer mutt from a puppy mill.
 
Where does one begin? When buying anything over the internet you have to be skeptical, yes! I get that. I feel there are very few "breeders" out there and many puppy farms. All of my animals have been purchaed over the internet, all of them have been healthy and I have never had ANY issues with mistrust or unhealthy animals. Now to answer why would I ask strangers to pick up an animal. Well I posted onhere beacuse I find very few untrustworthy people on the DIS, I trust all of the people that I have ever conversed with. Disney people are normally good people! Why cant I go get the puppy myself... cause my husband wont allow me to drive 17 hrs to get it! He gave me a ten hour drive limit! Now that I feel that I have explained myself to those interested. I just want to thank you for reading this post, and for those of you that think Im nutz, feel free to keep your opinions to yourself! LOL I know Im nutz, my husband knows Im nutz and well, you cant fight the truth! ROFL
 
Where does one begin? When buying anything over the internet you have to be skeptical, yes! I get that. I feel there are very few "breeders" out there and many puppy farms. All of my animals have been purchaed over the internet, all of them have been healthy and I have never had ANY issues with mistrust or unhealthy animals. Now to answer why would I ask strangers to pick up an animal. Well I posted onhere beacuse I find very few untrustworthy people on the DIS, I trust all of the people that I have ever conversed with. Disney people are normally good people! Why cant I go get the puppy myself... cause my husband wont allow me to drive 17 hrs to get it! He gave me a ten hour drive limit! Now that I feel that I have explained myself to those interested. I just want to thank you for reading this post, and for those of you that think Im nutz, feel free to keep your opinions to yourself! LOL I know Im nutz, my husband knows Im nutz and well, you cant fight the truth! ROFL

Keep my opinion to myself? Nice. I hope someone reads this and does not agree to do this. I never said you were NUTZ.:confused3

And why would someone do this if you are NUTZ? There is just too much liability here not too mention I would never support a puppy mill, but that is just personal to me.
 
There are plenty of puppy mills in PA.
 
Maybe you should look into a breed rescue in your area. Some will adopt to people a couple of states away.
 
Not keeping my opinion to myself...giving one's opinions is what a 'discussion' board is all about.
Unless you have it on good authority that this is a reputable breeder, then don't go there. If this is a 'breeder' who has more than two breeds of dogs to offer, run away. There are plenty of puppies for adoption in every area of the country. It shouldn't be all that hard to find one in your area.
If you had ever seen what the vast majority of these 'breeders' compounds look like, you would be horrified.
That's all I'm saying on this subject.
 
Where does one begin? When buying anything over the internet you have to be skeptical, yes! I get that. I feel there are very few "breeders" out there and many puppy farms. All of my animals have been purchaed over the internet, all of them have been healthy and I have never had ANY issues with mistrust or unhealthy animals. Now to answer why would I ask strangers to pick up an animal. Well I posted onhere beacuse I find very few untrustworthy people on the DIS, I trust all of the people that I have ever conversed with. Disney people are normally good people! Why cant I go get the puppy myself... cause my husband wont allow me to drive 17 hrs to get it! He gave me a ten hour drive limit! Now that I feel that I have explained myself to those interested. I just want to thank you for reading this post, and for those of you that think Im nutz, feel free to keep your opinions to yourself! LOL I know Im nutz, my husband knows Im nutz and well, you cant fight the truth! ROFL


Actually I was saying anyone who agreed to be your transporter is nuts (the liability).

What breed of dog are we talking about exactly?
 
As the owner of a "teacup" dog myself and several in the past, do you mind sharing what breed it is you're attempting to buy?
 
If you want to go get the dog, why do you need your husband? Just drive there yourself.:confused3
 
I'm with everyone else on this one. Please, please, please do not buy puppies sight unseen over the internet! Please post the link for us so we can see what kind of operation this is. Unfortunately, it is likely a puppy mill.

The puppy you purchase will be saved, but please think of the mother & father who are probably living their lives unloved & in squalour.

You have been fortunate that your previous puppies were healthy. I have seen several dogs infected with parvovirus who have been purchased from the internet. One family purchased 2 toy-breed dogs. Both came down with parvo & the clients spent several thousand dollars to treat them. They have legal action pending against the "breeder".

Even more sadly, another family euthanized their 11 week old very sick puppy because they could not afford its care. When they returned to the "breeder's" home, there were 2 more dead puppies on the porch.

Please do not support this!!!

I am involved in pet transport chains, but they are are for rescue groups, not for puppy mill puppies.
 
Ooo...another good link : http://www.pgaa.com/ushsinternetpuppies.html


Do Not Buy Puppies (or any pet) over the Internet!!

August 28, 2008 from the Humane Society of the United States web page at http://www.hsus.org/pets/pets_related_news_and_events/cute_website_cruel_reality_082808.html

QUOTE:

For the third time in recent months, The Humane Society of the United States coordinated the rescue of hundreds of dogs from an enormous puppy mill Aug. 23. Like too many others, Whispering Oaks Kennel in West Virginia was selling puppies over the Internet, posing as a small family breeder.

"We are a home based kennel," the breeder's website stated. "Our dogs get the best of care. They are pre-spoiled and come with a written health guarantee."

But behind the elegant kennel name, the cute website, and the empty promises, lay an enormous puppy mill where nearly 1,000 dogs and puppies were confined continually to cramped wire cages, often going without food or water in the sweltering summer sun. Far from "pre-spoiled," most of the dogs and puppies had had little if any human interaction.

Cruel Reality

The W.Va. raid is the third recent bust on a puppy that sold puppies primarily over the Internet. Earlier this summer, The HSUS rescued almost 700 dogs from a puppy mill in Lyles, Tenn., that sold puppies online under the kennel name Pinebluff Puppies. A kennel in Maine that called itself J'Aime Kennel sold its puppies through classified websites as well as on its own site. When The HSUS helped rescued approximately 250 dogs from J'Aime last summer, many of the dogs were found suffering from sarcoptic mange, a contagious disease; Giardia, a parasite transmissable to humans; and other disorders. Many of them spun in circles continually-a symptom of living for years in a cage.

Online Breeder Networks

People who purchase the puppies from such facilities are often fooled by online "breeder networks," which are really just advertising sites. As a result, they often receive a sick or dying puppy, while also supporting a cruel industry. "Complaints pour in to The HSUS every week from puppy buyers who have been duped by deceptive websites or ads, and end up with a sick or dying puppy," says Kathleen Summers, deputy director for The HSUS Stop Puppy Mills campaign.

"We encourage pet lovers never to buy any animal online. There are puppy mills, kitten mills, bird mills and more, and most of their ads and websites are indistinguishable from those of responsible breeders. There is no way to know if a breeder is responsible simply by viewing a website. You must visit an animal welfare organization, shelter, or a responsible breeder in person. If you visit a breeder, make sure to see where the mother dog is living to ensure that she is living indoors as a member of the family, not in a cage or in any area you are not permitted to see, said Summers.

Curbing Internet Pet Sales

The HSUS is fighting for legislation that would curb the unregulated business of Internet pet sales, but it is still advisable never to purchase a live animal online. In addition to the risk that you are dealing with a puppy, kitten, or bird mill in disguise, there is a very real humane issue in transporting animals long distances by air or truck. "These are baby animals that need supervision and care. They shouldn't be ordered online like a DVD or a sweater," says Summers

The following stories are just a few that Summers has received in recent weeks from across the U.S.:

· Valentine Damien of Chicago, Ill., thought he was dealing with a small home breeder when he purchased a puppy after seeing an online classified ad. Only after his new puppy nearly died of a respiratory infection did Damien suspect something was wrong. He called The HSUS and gave them the name of the seller. He then learned that his puppy actually came from a kennel in Minnesota believed to house more than 1,000 dogs. The kennel's owner had recently been charged with practicing veterinary medicine without a license for performing do-it-yourself surgeries on her dogs.

· Anna Sanchez of San Antonio, Texas, purchased a Bulldog puppy from a breeder in Tennessee after viewing the breeder's website. There, the breeder claims to adhere to a "breeder's code of ethics" and proclaims herself an expert on Bulldogs. But within 48 hours the dog Anna ordered was diagnosedwith Demodectic mange. The mange and related skin infections required six weeks of expensive care and treatment. When contacted, the breeder refused to respond or reimburse Sanchez for the treatments.

· A law enforcement officer in California purchased a Boxer puppy over the Internet from a "breeder" in Texas. The puppy who arrived was malnourished and suffering from diarrhea. The next morning the puppy was rushed to an emergency veterinarian, where she was diagnosed with Parvovirus, a serious and often fatal intestinal infection that is contagious to other dogs. The puppy survived, but the buyer paid more than $3,800 in vet bills to save her life.

Rescue or Adopt

The best way to get a new pet is not to purchase one at all-but to visit a reputable animal shelter or rescue group, where many dogs, cats, rabbits, and other animals are awaiting adoption into loving homes. If you do choose to visit a breeder, always make sure to screen your breeder in person. There is no shortcut to avoiding a puppy mill.

For more information on choosing the right dog, adoption, finding a good breeder and more, see our Puppy Buyer's Guide. For more informaion on puppy mills, visit our Stop Puppy Millswebsite.
 
Where does one begin? When buying anything over the internet you have to be skeptical, yes! I get that. I feel there are very few "breeders" out there and many puppy farms. All of my animals have been purchaed over the internet, all of them have been healthy and I have never had ANY issues with mistrust or unhealthy animals. Now to answer why would I ask strangers to pick up an animal. Well I posted onhere beacuse I find very few untrustworthy people on the DIS, I trust all of the people that I have ever conversed with. Disney people are normally good people! Why cant I go get the puppy myself... cause my husband wont allow me to drive 17 hrs to get it! He gave me a ten hour drive limit! Now that I feel that I have explained myself to those interested. I just want to thank you for reading this post, and for those of you that think Im nutz, feel free to keep your opinions to yourself! LOL I know Im nutz, my husband knows Im nutz and well, you cant fight the truth! ROFL

I still don't understand how this part works. What do you mean he won't allow you?
 







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