Is this line cutting?

[KSDisneyDad]

There you go quoting nonexistent rules again.

If the rules are nonexistent, please tell that to the CM's who shout it out to ensure the entire party is together before entering the line at TSM in the mornings.

As for space saving effecting your wait time...I do see your point....and I agree with so many others here that in the end it just isn't worth worrying about.

I would much prefer a World in which people were politely allowed to pass to and fro in a queue, and those who want to multi-task would not be frowned upon (and stink eyed) by the queue luddites.

I agree that saving a spot or two is not worth worrying about even if I wouldn't do it myself. However, if it gets out of hand (i.e. TSM) Disney will have to put an end to it on other attractions as well.

I don't think your version of queue utopia will fly as it differs from other guest's version of queue utopia where guests don't "multi-task" before entering a queue and push their way up to their family. (Slightly OT - Please define multi-tasking. Wouldn't multi-tasking be taking care of business while in the queue itself, but that's a discussion for another thread. I guess you might be considering it group multi-tasking where certain member(s) of the group wait in line while other members do something else and then can swap back and forth at will as long as one person holds the spot for the group of 2 to 20.)

Just because I let you in front of me with a smile doesn't mean that I think you're not being rude. I find it ironic that you judge those who you think are judging others (i.e. those with the stink eyed glares). So it's okay for you to judge, but others are not allowed to do so? In the end, we'll have to agree to disagree on who is being rude within the queues as I doubt if I change your mind and you certainly won't change mine.

 

[lucas]

To the OP, I would say no, I wouldn't consider it cutting in line. Except once while waiting in the line for Living with the Land, the family that caught up with the person in line in front of us was about 12 people!

 

[MikeandReneePlus5]

I find it ironic that you judge those who you think are judging others (i.e. those with the stink eyed glares). So it's okay for you to judge, but others are not allowed to do so?

The real irony is you judging me for judging those who I think are judging others.

Or maybe it is me judging you for judging me for judging those who I think are judging others.

Or maybe it is you judging me for judging you for judging me for judging those who I think are judging others.

 

[MikeandReneePlus5]

I'm going with my daughter. It will just be the two of us. If she needs to use the restroom can I just call dibs on my spot and walk back up when we're done?

Can we skip the first 10-20 feet of any line if we had to stop to use the restroom, get fastpasses, or get drinks on our way to a ride, since we don't have another adult to hold our place in line while we take care of other things?

I didn't know this was allowed. I'm excited to hear about this timesaver!!!!

Yes...Disney is magical didn't you know? You can also enjoy the theme parks at the same time you are swimiing in your resort pool!

 

[nurtz]

If you are going for fastpasses, coffee, a smoke, whatever, it is definitely line-cutting if you go through a line to catch up with family or friends. Is it going to increase my wait time? Maybe, depending on how many others decide to line-cut at that time. I haven't noticed it being a huge problem in my 30+ years of Disney travels. I did notice it more last month on our spring break trip than I ever have. All the line cutters seemed to be fastpass runners in our experience. We choose to send a fastpass runner and either wait at entrance of next ride or go ahead and ride without the runner. We never try to catch up in line...we do not feel comfortable doing that nor do we feel it is right. We may end up waiting 10 minutes longer? Not worth the effort. I have no problem with people leaving a line and coming back to it for emergency potty breaks or the like. The people we noticed catching up with their groups last month usually caught up with them about 5 to 10 minutes in the line anyway. It wouldn't have been a big hardship to just wait for the runner at the entrance. The only time I have ever complained to a CM about line-cutting was many years ago before the fastpasses were invented. Splash Mountain was brand new and the line was extended out onto the sidewalk...started close to Pecos Bills. We were in line about 10 minutes (a roped off area running along the sidewalk)...pretty close to the actual entrance where a CM was standing. A teenage boy hopped over the rope in front of my family, turned and smiled and said HI...like he knew us. Sorry, not happening. Told him he was not cutting in front of us so he said OK and promptly moved behind us. Lo and behold, a few minutes later, about 5 of his best friends joined him. I reported to CM and they were told to leave the line. What happened after that, I have no idea. Maybe the fact that they cut in front of others would have made the others wait an extra minute but that is not the point. It is not right, and if everyone decides that they can hop in a line whenever and wherever they want, perhaps you who "don't have a problem with it" would feel differently. It did not ruin our vacation but I sure felt good about teaching the kids a little bit about manners and following the rules.

 

[Jaime4004]

Actually, in almost every line there are place where one can simply duck under a rope, chain, or something similar. On top of that, unless you're quite wide about the only thing you can do in many spots is stretch your arms out. I'd just duck underneath them and go right past you.

I was thinking the exact same thing... If I need to leave my family and come back to them in line for whatever reason (generally the kid needing the bathroom NOW), i usually wait at a rope/chain that I can duck under until I see the others. If someone tried to block a path, I would simply move up to the next rope/chained area...

 

[TinkerBelle_325]

I asked a question and you respond with sarcasm? Clearly I cannot be both in the parks and in the pool at my resort at the same time. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure that out. Geez. I'm just wondering how to go about applying the time saving line jumping etiquette to a party with only 1 adult and 1 kid.

I think you are missing the point. Line jumping is not a good thing, nor is it condoned at WDW. If your child has to use the restroom, you exit the line with the child, you a restroom and then you enter the line AT THE END. Same goes for getting fastpasses & snacks.

 

[CurlyJo224]

I asked a question and you respond with sarcasm? Clearly I cannot be both in the parks and in the pool at my resort at the same time. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure that out. Geez. I'm just wondering how to go about applying the time saving line jumping etiquette to a party with only 1 adult and 1 kid.

Take the child to the bathroom before you get in line. If you have to get out of line, then go to the back of the line when you come back.

 

[Suellen]

Take the child to the bathroom before you get in line. If you have to get out of line, then go to the back of the line when you come back.

Alternatively find a CM and tell them you need to leave the line to use the bathroom with small child. They will likely give you a FP to come back... it is NOT, however guaranteed. If need be we get in the end of the line.

 

[TinkerBelle_325]

I was just pondering the whole "line-cutting" debate.

Let me throw something out hypothetically.

You are at the airport with your family. You get in line for security screening. You realize you wanted to get one last souvenir, so you leave your family in the line and run to get said souvenir. Do you then cut through THAT line? Past the TSA agents etc...and make your way to your family?

 

[Wadecool]

I was just pondering the whole "line-cutting" debate.

Let me throw something out hypothetically.

You are at the airport with your family. You get in line for security screening. You realize you wanted to get one last souvenir, so you leave your family in the line and run to get said souvenir. Do you then cut through THAT line? Past the TSA agents etc...and make your way to your family?

Apparently there are those with the unique ability to shimmy slide over, under, or through the line using any and all available space. I mean, they could always duck under the TSA officer's arms, right?

 

[KSDisneyDad]

If you are going for fastpasses, coffee, a smoke, whatever, it is definitely line-cutting if you go through a line to catch up with family or friends. Is it going to increase my wait time? Maybe, depending on how many others decide to line-cut at that time. I haven't noticed it being a huge problem in my 30+ years of Disney travels. I did notice it more last month on our spring break trip than I ever have. All the line cutters seemed to be fastpass runners in our experience. We choose to send a fastpass runner and either wait at entrance of next ride or go ahead and ride without the runner. We never try to catch up in line...we do not feel comfortable doing that nor do we feel it is right. We may end up waiting 10 minutes longer? Not worth the effort. I have no problem with people leaving a line and coming back to it for emergency potty breaks or the like. The people we noticed catching up with their groups last month usually caught up with them about 5 to 10 minutes in the line anyway. It wouldn't have been a big hardship to just wait for the runner at the entrance. The only time I have ever complained to a CM about line-cutting was many years ago before the fastpasses were invented. Splash Mountain was brand new and the line was extended out onto the sidewalk...started close to Pecos Bills. We were in line about 10 minutes (a roped off area running along the sidewalk)...pretty close to the actual entrance where a CM was standing. A teenage boy hopped over the rope in front of my family, turned and smiled and said HI...like he knew us. Sorry, not happening. Told him he was not cutting in front of us so he said OK and promptly moved behind us. Lo and behold, a few minutes later, about 5 of his best friends joined him. I reported to CM and they were told to leave the line. What happened after that, I have no idea. Maybe the fact that they cut in front of others would have made the others wait an extra minute but that is not the point. It is not right, and if everyone decides that they can hop in a line whenever and wherever they want, perhaps you who "don't have a problem with it" would feel differently. It did not ruin our vacation but I sure felt good about teaching the kids a little bit about manners and following the rules.

I asked a question and you respond with sarcasm? Clearly I cannot be both in the parks and in the pool at my resort at the same time. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure that out. Geez. I'm just wondering how to go about applying the time saving line jumping etiquette to a party with only 1 adult and 1 kid.

Your original post had a great point. I don't think many others get your point except for those who disagree and just want to use sarcasm and rudeness. What's funny is that particular poster stated previously that they would prefer to see queue's where people are allowed to go "to and fro" at will. Your situation would be perfect for that poster's version of queue utopia from their signature.

I agree that saving a spot or two is not worth worrying about even if I wouldn't do it myself. However, if it gets out of hand (i.e. TSM) Disney will have to put an end to it on other attractions as well.

I don't think your version of queue utopia will fly as it differs from other guest's version of queue utopia where guests don't "multi-task" before entering a queue and push their way up to their family. (Slightly OT - Please define multi-tasking. Wouldn't multi-tasking be taking care of business while in the queue itself, but that's a discussion for another thread. I guess you might be considering it group multi-tasking where certain member(s) of the group wait in line while other members do something else and then can swap back and forth at will as long as one person holds the spot for the group of 2 to 20.)

Just because I let you in front of me with a smile doesn't mean that I think you're not being rude. I find it ironic that you judge those who you think are judging others (i.e. those with the stink eyed glares). So it's okay for you to judge, but others are not allowed to do so? In the end, we'll have to agree to disagree on who is being rude within the queues as I doubt if I change your mind and you certainly won't change mine.

The real irony is you judging me for judging those who I think are judging others.

Or maybe it is me judging you for judging me for judging those who I think are judging others.

Or maybe it is you judging me for judging you for judging me for judging those who I think are judging others.

I guess I still struggle with your idea of queue utopia. I'm okay with judging others and evidently so are you. But still, why is it not okay for someone in line to judge a line cutter? Instead, we must all just allow everyone to pass to and fro? That sounds like complete chaos and not utopia. At that point, we will have to completely throw the "line waiting time" estimate at the front of the queue out the proverbial window.

Also, thanks for answering my question about multi-tasking. I rather enjoyed the sarcastic remark instead.

 

[ccudmore]

"I'm sorry, I'm not prepared to pursue my line of enquiry any further as I think this is getting too silly."

- from Monty Python's Flying Circus

 

[KSDisneyDad]

"I'm sorry, I'm not prepared to pursue my line of enquiry any further as I think this is getting too silly."

- from Monty Python's Flying Circus

Yep, like so many topics on these boards, we'll have to agree to disagree. Differences in opinions are a fact of life even if it's on the most mundane issues that in the grand scheme of things aren't that important.

But it's still a bit fun to hash out why there are differences!

 

[MikeandReneePlus5]

I was just pondering the whole "line-cutting" debate.

Let me throw something out hypothetically.

You are at the airport with your family. You get in line for security screening. You realize you wanted to get one last souvenir, so you leave your family in the line and run to get said souvenir. Do you then cut through THAT line? Past the TSA agents etc...and make your way to your family?

Riddle me this:

Do you ever say "I'll get the popcorn you grab some seats"?

I was just on line at the Blender Theater at Gramercy in NYC to see a concert and the line was from the door down the block (no assigned seats). A friend went to get Starbuck's while we waited. He came back with lattes for all. Is that cutting?

 

[Ramsfan28]

I should have picked the over...

 

[MikeandReneePlus5]

I asked a question and you respond with sarcasm? Clearly I cannot be both in the parks and in the pool at my resort at the same time. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure that out. Geez. I'm just wondering how to go about applying the time saving line jumping etiquette to a party with only 1 adult and 1 kid.

It's sarcasm with a point, which - based on your comment above - I think you understand now.

 

[rock_doctor]

I have just thought of a solution to this issue and since Disney reps read DIS they should take note. The solution is, no lines. They should speed up the rides so that there is no wait. The boats in the water rides shall be replaced with supercharged speed boats, test track will now hit supersonic speeds and in Soarin' instead of a glider they shoot you out of a cannon over an orange grove towards Seattle. Those who are thin will make it and those who aren't will land in Iowa (you pay for your return trip back to Florida). Problem solved.

 

[MikeandReneePlus5]

Your original post had a great point. I don't think many others get your point except for those who disagree and just want to use sarcasm and rudeness. What's funny is that particular poster stated previously that they would prefer to see queue's where people are allowed to go "to and fro" at will. Your situation would be perfect for that poster's version of queue utopia from their signature.

I got his point because I appreciated the subtlety with which he made it. The problem is, it isn't a point at all, becasue it has nothing to do with the discussion of whether a person can join or re-join a group. There is no "group". I pointed this out in a subtle reply. You missed it.

I guess I still struggle with your idea of queue utopia. I'm okay with judging others and evidently so are you. But still, why is it not okay for someone in line to judge a line cutter? Instead, we must all just allow everyone to pass to and fro? That sounds like complete chaos and not utopia. At that point, we will have to completely throw the "line waiting time" estimate at the front of the queue out the proverbial window.

Also, thanks for answering my question about multi-tasking. I rather enjoyed the sarcastic remark instead.

Do you really need a definition of multi-tasking from me? Ok, leaving the carousel queue, walking over the Mrs. Potts, getting an ice cream cone, re-joining your family.

As for you judging...judge away! Your original sentence I had a bit of fun with was just odd IMO and leads logically to the silliness of my post in reply to it. Again I used subtelty to make a point. You missed it.

Queue utopia is where people don't get bent out of shape because someone left the carousel line to get an ice cream and came back to their family.

 

[MikeandReneePlus5]

I have just thought of a solution to this issue and since Disney reps read DIS they should take note. The solution is, no lines. They should speed up the rides so that there is no wait. The boats in the water rides shall be replaced with supercharged speed boats, test track will now hit supersonic speeds and in Soarin' instead of a glider they shoot you out of a cannon over an orange grove towards Seattle. Those who are thin will make it and those who aren't will land in Iowa (you pay for your return trip back to Florida). Problem solved.

The bold part is coming, it's called virtual queuing.