Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

[bcla]

There must be a real knack to keeping those tiara's straight on your head! Don't think I could manage it!

Not that hard. Maybe an elastic at the back or just secured with hairpins. Having long hair in the back can help to hide that part.

 

[PaulaSB12]

Meghan Markle knew nothing about the royal family even though she was friends with Princess Eugenia?

 

[snappy]

Meghan Markle knew nothing about the royal family even though she was friends with Princess Eugenia?

Wasn’t princess Eugenia the one who had H&M announce their first pregnancy at her wedding?

 

[mom2rtk]

Speaking of tiaras... I love tiaras. For those curious.... This is a nice article showcasing the various tiaras associated with the BRF

https://www.marieclaire.com.au/british-royal-tiaras

Not a jewelry girl myself, but I do love perusing the tiara collection.

 

[tinatark]

Speaking of tiaras... I remember hearing Meghan was in a tizzy about the tiara she wanted to wear in their wedding, and wasn't able. I wish Oprah had asked about THAT!

 

[redrosesix]

Speaking of tiaras... I remember hearing Meghan was in a tizzy about the tiara she wanted to wear in their wedding, and wasn't able. I wish Oprah had asked about THAT!

They said they didn't discuss any of the questions before the interview and that any question could be asked. But it really was very one sided, as if they had actually determined what the outcome should be. It reminds me of how people talked about her interviews with Tom Cruise ie. she didn't really ask him questions the way that somebody like Barbara Walters would. She liked him so she made him look good.

I think Barbara Walters would have asked about the tiara...

 

[mom2rtk]

They said they didn't discuss any of the questions before the interview and that any question could be asked. But it really was very one sided, as if they had actually determined what the outcome should be. It reminds me of how people talked about her interviews with Tom Cruise ie. she didn't really ask him questions the way that somebody like Barbara Walters would. She liked him so she made him look good.

I think Barbara Walters would have asked about the tiara...

Just because they didn't discuss questions ahead of time doesn't mean there weren't parameters set ahead of time. I'd be shocked if they didn't.

 

[Cheburashka]

British broadcaster ITV has had to re-edit the interview, due to Oprah's doctored newspaper headlines inaccurately portraying British headlines. See the Daily Telegraph article about it below.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/14/itv-forced-edit-oprah-winfreys-interview-prince-harry-meghan/

 

[Cheburashka]

I think Barbara Walters would have asked about the tiara...

Barbara Walters would have eaten them alive. Oprah is more of a platform provider than an interviewer.

 

[snappy]

British broadcaster ITV has had to re-edit the interview, due to Oprah's doctored newspaper headlines inaccurately portraying British headlines. See the Daily Telegraph article about it below.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/14/itv-forced-edit-oprah-winfreys-interview-prince-harry-meghan/

I guess Oprah didn’t get away with it after all.

 

[redrosesix]

1. They were talking about newspapers. When Markle kept talking about "protection" and "support" in the interview, she was mostly referring to protection and support from negative headlines. She is very sensitive to negative press, as evidenced by her lawsuits & formal complaints against those in the press who are critical of her.

2. The only headline from a British paper that imo can be construed as racist was "Straight Outta Compton" when she & Harry were dating. That was insensitive and bordering on racist imo. That was before Harry sent the message to the press asking them to back off while they were dating (which they did, btw). There has been no other race-tinged coverage in the mainstream British press, however. Many of the headlines that Oprah showed during the interview were actually from American & Australian tabloids, NOT British tabloids (which are more respectable than American tabloids- the British tabloids are kind of like People magazine in terms of editorial quality- nothing like National Enquirer). One British headline in her montage was clipped from "'Meghan's seed will taint our Royal Family': UKIP chief's glamour model lover, 25, is suspended from the party over racist texts" to "Meghan's seed will taint our Royal Family". You see the difference? The newspaper had been reporting on a racist politician's comment & the response, and Oprah shortened it to appear as if the newspaper was stating that racist text as a headline. There was a talk radio personality who posted a social media picture of their baby as a chimp, and he, too, got cancelled over that. That was widely condemned and was never presented by the mainstream media. So just like in the U.S., the U.K. has individual racist jerks, but that wasn't the mainstream media or general public being racist against her.

3. The comparisons between her & Kate's press were taken out of context. Kate got plenty of harsh press during the long period when she was William's girlfriend (if you watch W & K's engagement interview, you'll notice that the interviewer even mentions it). She was nicknamed "Waity Katy" and criticized for not having a real career and basically just waiting for William to propose, and the press also criticized her as being a social climber, because she was middle class & dating a royal. In addition, if you go back a few decades and look at Diana & Fergie's press, you'll see some really horrific headlines. Upon H & M's engagement, Meghan got ecstatic press coverage. The coverage only began to tilt slightly negative after the kerfuffle with her father right before the wedding, and then later on it became much more critical once the couple began lecturing the British public on how to behave, while not following their own advice (ex: telling people to reduce their carbon footprint, while H & M used private jets multiple times in a week.)


The bottom line with their differing press coverage in the last few years is that they have behaved differently, so they've received different coverage. Kate is very careful about how she dresses and acts, and typically strives to follow royal protocol. Her focus is on supporting her husband, family and the monarchy. She has also maintained close, positive relationships with her family of origin and pre-royal friends. Meghan disregarded a lot of royal protocol during her short stint in the royal family, and it hurt her image: that protocol is actually there to protect the individual royals as much as it is to further the aims of the monarchy. She has cut off most of her family of origin, and many of her pre-royal friends, while inviting celebrities who she had only met once or twice to sit front and center at her wedding. Her focus is on self-fulfillment and making social change, and that isn't how the British public or press expect their royals to act. Hence, bad media coverage.

The British tabloid press is pretty straight up, and is going to call it like they see it. They aren't going to say, one positive story for Kate, so now we have to do a positive story for Meghan. They base their stories on how the royals actually behave.

You two examples in part 2 are the only ones that I'm aware of, and believe me I looked and looked and didn't find any others.

As for part 3, when they moved to Canada they settled in an area that was in keeping with their stated goals but out there they are far ahead of many parts of the world in being green and I'm sure they quickly became aware of that. No surprise that they ended up in Hollywood because they found BC boring and too private. A word to the wise -- if you tell Canadians you want your privacy and you want to be treated like regular people, that is what you'll get. My husband's cousin runs a hotel a couple of hours from there (which in Canada is pretty close). Living on Vancouver Island is nothing like living in Vancouver...or even Whistler.

 

[BayouQueen]

Wasn’t princess Eugenia the one who had H&M announce their first pregnancy at her wedding?

Didn't they take Eugenia by surprise -- steal her thunder, so to speak? I felt sorry for Fergie and Eugenia when that happened.

 

[Cheburashka]

Didn't they take Eugenia by surprise -- steal her thunder, so to speak? I felt sorry for Fergie and Eugenia when that happened.

Yes. Similar thing happened this year. Only a few days after Eugenia's baby was born, they announced that Meghan was pregnant again.

 

[snappy]

Stealing the limelight?

 

[Cheburashka]

99% of our current politicians aren’t up for it either.

Some certainly aren't, I must admit.

 

[BayouQueen]

Yes. Similar thing happened this year. Only a few days after Eugenia's baby was born, they announced that Meghan was pregnant again.

They've stepped on quite a few royal family events that they knew were scheduled. That's one of the main reasons I've come to think Meghan is a "mean girl."

 

[NotUrsula]

There must be a real knack to keeping those tiara's straight on your head! Don't think I could manage it!

Most tiaras have small wire loops on the inside bottom edge, those are where the hairpins slip in. At events where there will be dancing, it isn't unusual to actually sew the tiara to one's hair, especially if it is shorter or worn down. (Dancers also sew in tiaras; you do it with a crewel needle and either fine fishing line or silk thread that matches the hair colour. And no, it doesn't hurt; it's rather like attaching extensions.)

 

[redrosesix]

British broadcaster ITV has had to re-edit the interview, due to Oprah's doctored newspaper headlines inaccurately portraying British headlines. See the Daily Telegraph article about it below.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/14/itv-forced-edit-oprah-winfreys-interview-prince-harry-meghan/

This might be the best part of the interview saga for me. Press vs Press. I'm not sure it could get any more relevant to every day life than this. Trust is something we give once, and it is nearly impossible to get back once lost, so I hope this makes things change for the better. If that is all that comes from this, I will be ecstatic.

 

[redrosesix]

King Edward abdicated as he wanted Wallis that was his official reason. His nazi leanings where more to the point like surrounding himself with prominent nazis in his office and telling the German ambassador he would threaten to abdicate if war with Germany was threatened during the war the American government found he was leaking stuff to the Germans that is why he was moved to the Bahamas it was also proven that he encouraged the london bombing raids to shorten the war and that he wanted to be king again if Germany won he had to be kept away after https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ternational-archives-reveal-10306121.html?amp
https://www.history.com/.amp/news/h...wn-queen-elizabeth-edward-margaret-fact-checkhttps://www.history.com/.amp/news/h...wn-queen-elizabeth-edward-margaret-fact-check



As for Margaret there is a letter from her showing that she had decided to think about whether she would or would not marry but it would be her choice. Look at how he behaved after he then started dating and at 45 married a 19 year old.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....d-split-queen-elizabeth-royal-family-news/amp

Margaret was always my mother's favourite royal...

Edward tried to stay within political spheres of influence but he quickly became irrelevant to the public after the Second World War started, especially in countries like Canada. Everyone had radio, even my parents who were growing up in remote areas of Nova Scotia, and everyone heard the radio addresses from King George and Princess Elizabeth. Life went on because it had to.

This should serve as an example to H&M, who are looking for sympathy for being trapped in a huge mansion and having to spend some of their many millions of dollars of income on their own security -- we're in the middle of a pandemic and most people would feel liberated if they could be locked down in a home so big. Perhaps they should have waited until more people were vaccinated and less people were dying.

I hear Italy is going into lockdown again. Best of luck to them

 

[Cheburashka]

Amazing article about an African-American entrepreneur from California who married into the British aristocracy. She shares her thoughts about her own experience and about Markle's experience.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9361147/African-American-married-aristocracy-work.html

This article brings to the forefront the thing that disappointed me most about Markle. That she didn't go the distance and break the royal glass ceiling by becoming a successful working royal, but instead quickly and petulantly quit her position. As a mixed-race woman, I was pleased to see her marrying Harry and would have loved for her to stay and bring diversity into the royal family. Jackie Robinson faced extraordinary challenges but soldiered on to become one of baseball's most revered players. Markle could have done that, too, had she so chosen.