Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

[Pea-n-Me]

Harry and Megan were offered Apartment 1 in Kensington Palace but turned it down. The Duke of Gloucester and his wife had been living in Apartment 1 for many years and moved out in 2019.

Ok, thanks. I thought you might be referring to them because their daughter, Lady Davina Windsor, married a POC in 2004, a Maori man named Gary Lewis, and they had two children together. They have since divorced.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...arriage-Maori-sheep-shearer-husband-ends.html

 

[mom2rtk]

He's acting like a spoiled child.

Well......

 

[mamamia2005]

If the mental health issues that Meghan has suffered are indeed real, then I think it's Harry that needs to take a long hard look at himself. Meghan alluded to the fact that she would not be alive if Harry went out and left her alone to go to a royal engagement that they were to attend together. He had suggested she stay home.
I can sort of see that Charles would not have had the patience for dealing with that - after all he went through similar with Diana, and I'm not sure he ever accepted any responsibility for her mental health struggles.

And I still can't fathom why Doria wasn't there to support her daughter. I'm not sure when she arrived in London, but I remember seeing her in the photo with Meghan and Harry with the Queen and Prince Phillip when Archie was tiny.

 

[Disneylover99]

And I still can't fathom why Doria wasn't there to support her daughter. I'm not sure when she arrived in London, but I remember seeing her in the photo with Meghan and Harry with the Queen and Prince Phillip when Archie was tiny.

I think she flew in for his birth and then again for his christening. It’s unclear as to how often she saw her daughter during the pregnancy or if she saw her at all.

 

[mom2rtk]

I think she flew in for his birth and then again for his christening. It’s unclear as to how often she saw her daughter during the pregnancy or if she saw her at all.

But you don't have to physically be there to "be there" for your daughter. Meghan could have called on her to help figure out how to proceed.

 

[NotUrsula]

I saw this mentioned too, but what stake would they have to make such a bold remark? It feels like something that would come from someone that perceives his skin color as being problematic for them in the future (i.e. a future King). Also, if M&H clarified it wasn't said by Phillip or the Queen, why not clarify it didn't come from Charles too? Or perhaps just say it was said by an extended family member, which would leave people to consider a whole slew of possibilities.

I'm going to say at the outset of this comment that I am not going to speculate that it was Charles, or anyone else, because I feel based on what I saw that Harry never meant for this to become a witch hunt; I truly don't think it occured to him that Meghan would share that, or that if she shared it, that the press would insist on finding out who said it. Does that mean he (again) wasn't thinking? Yeah, probably. He seems to be a mostly kind and caring person, but also perhaps not the sharpest arrow in the quiver.

I look at the words Harry used: he said "awkward" and "a bit shocked", but not "appalling" or "absolutely horrified". That sounds much more the way you describe an encounter with kindly-meant ignorance, not overt hostility. Ignorance in a kind person is easily remedied if one has patience.

Yes, there is an equally strong possibility that someone might have said it to be catty, or because they really are the kind of racist who indulges in colorism, but as what we have is purely hearsay, what I have seen so far does not support any need to put a head on a pike.

 

[snappy]

Or maybe they just needed a bigger, more shocking, headlines grabbing story than the previous one (Megxit). Go big or go home. Or both.

 

[Disneylover99]

But you don't have to physically be there to "be there" for your daughter. Meghan could have called on her to help figure out how to proceed.

For sure. But of course, Oprah never addressed that.

 

[BayouQueen]

I'm annoyed with Oprah. She liked going to the royal wedding, with all the pomp and circumstance it offered, but then apparently has no problem causing her royal hosts great pain -- just for an interview "plum."

Meghan Markle delivered just what I'd expect from her, given all her past behaviors and publicity stunts, but Oprah could have done her infomercial without delivering such hurt.

 

[Wendy31]

The more & more I consider everything & read different analysis of the interview & the Royal Family & the Harry/Meghan relationship, the more I believe that Harry was pulled along by Meghan.

Harry is not blameless, of course. He’s always been a bit spoiled & peevish to me - and maybe living as the “spare” your whole life will do that to you. (But, then, again, he’s also had a lot more freedom than William too...)

But, as others have stated, the threat of suicide is a powerful motivator. I’m not saying that Meghan didn’t have struggles. I think everyone in the same situation would have at least some struggles & missteps in the beginning - and even some sorrow & sadness as you realize your former way of life is gone, &, now, you’re having to live the life of a 2nd place royal w/ all the strictures & traditions & expectations. I’m not saying it’s not hard.

But (1) I don’t think either Meghan herself or Harry allowed her time to adjust, & (2) Harry‘s perceptions have been heavily influenced by memories of his mother - which is key, I think, to a lot of this.

I think, in a way, she’s the Lady Macbeth to his Macbeth, & they’re swirling in a storm that they created themselves, & Harry, for a myriad of reasons, is allowing himself to be manipulated by Meghan.

I’m not even sure I believe that anyone in the Royal Family actually said anything to them regarding the color of Archie’s skin.

And it’s very, very bad form for them to have said what they said in the way they said it.

If Harry truly loves & respects his grandparents, I’m shocked he’s okay w/ this interview & the repercussions it has for his grandmother. And, if Meghan truly loves Harry, then I’m shocked she’s okay w/ doing this to her husband’s family.

 

[Karin1984]

A friend of Harry & Meghan claims that the couple has e-mails and texts to back up their claims.

 

[person]

Harry's mad at Charles over money. He's acting like a spoiled child.

Wait a minute; it was Harry who decided to quit public duties (without even telling the Royal Family first) and now he (still with millions to his credit) resents not having the allowance he used to have? What an utter entitlement mentality! what does he think his former allowance was for?

He seems totally naive about how the world works.

With millions dying of the virus and so many ppl in financial hardship, his public griping is in utterly bad taste.

 

[snappy]

If that were my daughter and I was informed that things were that bad, I would not only have been on the next plane to London, I would‘ve been texting instructions to Harry the whole way there to keep her safe.

I’m thinking Doria would’ve done the same thing, had she known.

I agree with this. Not a suicide threat but one of our grown kids had a bad fall a few years ago. I got on a plane within 4 hours of hearing about it, leaving work at noon at to catch a 6 pm flight. I ended up having to spend the night on a couch (sitting, not allowed to lay down by airport people) in the Houston airport because the first leg of my flight was delayed. I ended up on another flight leaving at 6 am the next morning to get to my daughter in the hospital.

Could Harry or Meghan not felt the suicide discussion was serious enough to alert Doris? This is so implausible to me.

 

[snappy]

A friend of Harry & Meghan claims that the couple has e-mails and texts to back up their claims.

And we will see them in 3.2.1

 

[BayouQueen]

And we will see them in 3.2.1

Yup

 

[TLSnell1981]

A friend of Harry & Meghan claims that the couple has e-mails and texts to back up their claims.

Wait a minute..."private" emails? Are they really going down that road again?

No one in the RF should have any personal correspondence with either H or M other than "happy birthday" or "oh my loved the pics of the kids",etc. They have an agenda and are dangerous. They may remain "much loved" but should NEVER be trusted.

 

[morgan98]

I'm going to say at the outset of this comment that I am not going to speculate that it was Charles, or anyone else, because I feel based on what I saw that Harry never meant for this to become a witch hunt; I truly don't think it occured to him that Meghan would share that, or that if she shared it, that the press would insist on finding out who said it. Does that mean he (again) wasn't thinking? Yeah, probably. He seems to be a mostly kind and caring person, but also perhaps not the sharpest arrow in the quiver.

I look at the words Harry used: he said "awkward" and "a bit shocked", but not "appalling" or "absolutely horrified". That sounds much more the way you describe an encounter with kindly-meant ignorance, not overt hostility. Ignorance in a kind person is easily remedied if one has patience.

Yes, there is an equally strong possibility that someone might have said it to be catty, or because they really are the kind of racist who indulges in colorism, but as what we have is purely hearsay, what I have seen so far does not support any need to put a head on a pike.

Quoting to highlight the bolded. Well you would have thought before dropping that level of a potential bombshell they would have discussed it before hand. Meghan is not naive enough to think she would say something like that to Oprah and it not have HUGE implications.

And no, I am not saying a husband needs to censure his wife, but these two should have sorted out things that were off limits ahead of time.

 

[mom2rtk]

I agree with this. Not a suicide threat but one of our grown kids had a bad fall a few years ago. I got on a plane within 4 hours of hearing about it, leaving work at noon at to catch a 6 pm flight. I ended up having to spend the night on a couch (sitting, not allowed to lay down by airport people) in the Houston airport because the first leg of my flight was delayed. I ended up on another flight leaving at 6 am the next morning to get to my daughter in the hospital.

Could Harry or Meghan not felt the suicide discussion was serious enough to alert Doris? This is so implausible to me.

Also not a suicide threat or even close, but one year ago today, as Covid was starting to take hold, my daughter texted me to say her roommate was very sick and just diagnosed with flu and pneumonia, but they didn't test her for Covid. And she was sleeping in the bunk above her. I said pack your things, I'll be there in 90 minutes (it's a 2 hour drive). You're not staying.

You would have had a hard time keeping me out of things if I felt my child was at risk like Meghan says she was.

 

[Karin1984]

Quoting to highlight the bolded. Well you would have thought before dropping that level of a potential bombshell they would have discussed it before hand. Meghan is not naive enough to think she would say something like that to Oprah and it not have HUGE implications.

And no, I am not saying a husband needs to censure his wife, but these two should have sorted out things that were off limits ahead of time.

I think it's clear they didn't discuss it. It's one of the discrepancies the analists pointed out: Meghan says it while she was pregnant, when Harry joins he claims it was at the beginning of their relationship.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Quoting to highlight the bolded. Well you would have thought before dropping that level of a potential bombshell they would have discussed it before hand. Meghan is not naive enough to think she would say something like that to Oprah and it not have HUGE implications.

And no, I am not saying a husband needs to censure his wife, but these two should have sorted out things that were off limits ahead of time.

Of course they knew the consequences. Megs said that's all anyone would be talking about after the show. It was very intentional. But hey Harry said "whatever Meghan wants Meghan gets."