Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

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Yes, I'm sure Diana agreed to allow photos through a gym window while she was doing chest presses. As for the bolded, you are awfully nasty toward pretty women.

I'm reasonably confident she had the cashcash to set up a gym complete with personal trainer in the privacy of her home if she wanted to. Or at least find a gym without windows RIGHT THERE. Diana had a love/hate relationship with the press. She resented the intrusion into her life but also used them to her advantage. This has Ben well documented.
 
I'm reasonably confident she had the cashcash to set up a gym complete with personal trainer in the privacy of her home if she wanted to. Or at least find a gym without windows RIGHT THERE. Diana had a love/hate relationship with the press. She resented the intrusion into her life but also used them to her advantage. This has Ben well documented.

Seriously? The woman has to stay home for everything because she had the cash to do so? Most gyms have windows too....most buildings do...
 
I'm reasonably confident she had the cashcash to set up a gym complete with personal trainer in the privacy of her home if she wanted to. Or at least find a gym without windows RIGHT THERE. Diana had a love/hate relationship with the press. She resented the intrusion into her life but also used them to her advantage. This has Ben well documented.
I had to google the story behind the gym photos. The gym owner invited her to use his gym with an express, written promise of privacy. He secretly hid a camera in the ceiling and sold photos of her working out. Then the sleaze-ball tried to justify his actions by saying if she didn’t want to be seen then she shouldn’t have, you know, been in public or worn makeup.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-of-people-would-also-have-tried-1504800.html
 
I had to google the story behind the gym photos. The gym owner invited her to use his gym with an express, written promise of privacy. He secretly hid a camera in the ceiling and sold photos of her working out. Then the sleaze-ball tried to justify his actions by saying if she didn’t want to be seen then she shouldn’t have, you know, been in public or worn makeup.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-of-people-would-also-have-tried-1504800.html

That's awful. Ok so we can't blame Diana or the press for that one.
 

I am always amazed at the anger that is directed at women by women. No matter the family dynamic, if a man (or woman) wants a relationship with his family, he should have it, and if he chooses to opt out, that is on him. If these two want to "step away" from the royal family and their duties, or whatever it is they do, and are trying to set a set of "rules" that benefits them, fine. If those terms backfire, as they seem to have done somewhat, perhaps they should have done a better job of testing the family water. It is still my contention that placing blame on Meghan is silly. She is not leading her husband around by the throat, and if she is, well shame on him. I really hoped that the outdated notion that men do whatever their wives tell them to do was over.

I remember when Diana first married. She was so young and so in love, and so mesmerized by the fantasy she thought she was going to be part of. The disaster that ensued was very public, and since then times have changed. Harry grew up within the confines of the royal family and knew what that meant in terms of responsibility and public behavior. I am pretty darn sure he shared that with Meghan. if she was even a tad confused a simple google search would reveal what she was getting into. I am also pretty sure that both of these two honestly thought that people would view a married couple in the same light and delight as they did the romance of an American woman marrying her Prince Charming. Nope. That bloom wilts pretty fast. IMO both of these people need to grow up and adult.
Meghan has a degree from Northwestern in theater and international studies. I’m sure she knew what she was getting into.

I still don’t get how one jumps to the spoiled brat theory.
The same way we know about Princess Diana, politicians, or coronavirus.
 
Meghan has a degree from Northwestern in theater and international studies. I’m sure she knew what she was getting into.


The same way we know about Princess Diana, politicians, or coronavirus.

Just to add, Meghan graduated from Northwestern University in 2003.
Diana married at 20. Meghan was 36.
And I agree, I also think Meghan had a good idea of what she was getting into. She worked on a TV show that was filmed in Toronto for many years. Canada is a Commonwealth country.
 
Prince Harry has a duty to the Queen and this country. He has failed in that duty.

Prince Harry’s number one responsibility is to keep his wife and son safe from harm and happy. The British paparazzi spent the months since their wedding absootearing apart everything Meghan did or said. She was called a liar, a gold digger and a fake. Harry, who lost his Mom to the same vultures made the decision that his wife wouldn’t suffer the same fate.
I applaud him for realizing that his wife and son and their mental and physical well being are more important than his duty as 6th in line to the throne and I hope that they live a long happy life together.
 
Prince Harry’s number one responsibility is to keep his wife and son safe from harm and happy. The British paparazzi spent the months since their wedding absootearing apart everything Meghan did or said. She was called a liar, a gold digger and a fake. Harry, who lost his Mom to the same vultures made the decision that his wife wouldn’t suffer the same fate.
I applaud him for realizing that his wife and son and their mental and physical well being are more important than his duty as 6th in line to the throne and I hope that they live a long happy life together.
The laws regarding Paparazzi in the UK were greatly strengthened after all that Diana went through. Those laws are much stronger than the restrictions in the US.

If the eventually move to the US, they will have left greater protections in the UK for far fewer in the states.

They will have been made aware of the step down in protection. But, at the end of the day these things are a personal choice.

If they eventually decide a quiet, stepped back life is more what they desire, I believe the Frogmore Cottage option continues to be open for them.
 
Just to add, Meghan graduated from Northwestern University in 2003.
Diana married at 20. Meghan was 36.
And I agree, I also think Meghan had a good idea of what she was getting into. She worked on a TV show that was filmed in Toronto for many years. Canada is a Commonwealth country.
Just like having a baby, you have no idea what it's actually all about until you're in the middle of it.
 
I think it's probably a much easier adjustment with a few 24 hour nannies around. :flower3:
You completely missed the point. :sad2: :sad2: It isn't about an actual baby. :rolleyes2

My point was people can tell you what it's like (the monarchy), you can see it in action as an outsider, but you have no clue what it's really about until you're in the thick of it.
 
Just to add, Meghan graduated from Northwestern University in 2003.
Diana married at 20. Meghan was 36.
And I agree, I also think Meghan had a good idea of what she was getting into. She worked on a TV show that was filmed in Toronto for many years. Canada is a Commonwealth country.

Why is "what she was getting into" more important than who she fell in love with? The are still clearly enamored of each other and are doing what they need to make the best life for their family. People change careers and make huge life decisions all the time. Why are these two obligated to something they don't want?
 
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You completely missed the point. :sad2: :sad2: It isn't about an actual baby. :rolleyes2

My point was people can tell you what it's like (the monarchy), you can see it in action as an outsider, but you have no clue what it's really about until you're in the thick of it.
Well yes, but you can say that about just about any life experience. Figuring it out is part of adulting.
I think they have been given far more options that what might have been given in the past.
And for me, that is key. We'll see what they decide going forward from April 1st.
 
Why is "what she was getting into" more important than who she fell in love with? The are still clearly enamored of each other and are doing what they need to make the best life for their family. People change careers and make huge life decisions all the time. Why do these two obligated to something they don't want?
I don't think anyone has ever said M&H are obligated to do xyz.... You've conveyed that sentiment in previous posts as well, but they're free to do whatever they want- I don't think anyone is saying M&H MUST do xyz. We're just analyzing their actions.
Should she be making the best decision for her family? Of course lol, that's human nature. No one is saying she has to live miserably. I think the debate between most people is are she and harry taking the correct & fair steps to get what they want. And are they justified in what they're requesting. And of course...Was life really THAT bad that there was no other option except to leave (this one you can debate for ages without a winner lol).
 
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