Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

[Adelle Dazeem]

I still haven't watched the whole interview - I think I might be halfway. I'm not sure if I will finish it or not. I was watching a different show and a commercial for the interview came on and it was so disgusting - absolutely making it sound like Archie wasn't titled a prince because of his color. It was disgusting. If Oprah KNEW she was going to ask that question, as a professional journalist/interviewer, she should have doe her own research into how Archie's title would be given. To insinuate it was because of his potential skin tone is absolutely disgusting.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Absolutely. He was an Emmy-Award winning lighting director for shows like Married with Children and General Hospital. Meghan has talked publicly about her time on the Married With Children set, where she hung out daily after school. It no doubt was a big influence in her future career choices.

Articles say it's why Doria married him. She wanted to move up and he made $200k a year way back then.

I still haven't watched the whole interview - I think I might be halfway. I'm not sure if I will finish it or not. I was watching a different show and a commercial for the interview came on and it was so disgusting - absolutely making it sound like Archie wasn't titled a prince because of his color. It was disgusting. If Oprah KNEW she was going to ask that question, as a professional journalist/interviewer, she should have doe her own research into how Archie's title would be given. To insinuate it was because of his potential skin tone is absolutely disgusting.

No doubt Oprah knew. She isn't stupid. Although it fit her agenda.

 

[snappy]

Articles say it's why Doria married him. She wanted to move up and he made $200k a year way back then.

I can’t like your post per se, but it does explain some things about Meghan.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

Does that erase all the years during her childhood and college years where he was a good dad, they had a good relationship and he paid for everything?

He was a good dad to Meghan. She had a relatively happy childhood. (Do any of us have a perfect childhood?)
But he’s owned up to his mistakes and asked for forgiveness. He wants to see Meghan, meet his son in law, and meet his grandson.

Meghan claims to be a compassionate person. Doesn’t charity begin at home?

My dad was a decent dad growing up, but has been toxic in my adult life and I no longer have contact with him. It’s easy to judge that as an outsider, but I did what was best for my family and me. So no, being a good dad when one was young doesn’t automatically earn you a place at the table when you’re older. And for as much as anybody thinks they know, all we really know are what they each say and what we read in tabloids. So neither side can say they know the most. I’m sure my dad’s version of what was the ending for us is very different than mine. As a matter of fact, I know it is. That doesn’t make either one of us more right than the other.

The RF needs to take a page from Harry and Megs. They need to be erased. Not even a sorry side note. What they have done is unforgivable. They will NEVER change and can't be trusted. This was all petty revenge and a money grab. Harry who?

Are you a part of the BRF? Did you go to high school with Meghan? Your hatred of her & Harry is alarmingly intense.

 

[snappy]

I still haven't watched the whole interview - I think I might be halfway. I'm not sure if I will finish it or not. I was watching a different show and a commercial for the interview came on and it was so disgusting - absolutely making it sound like Archie wasn't titled a prince because of his color. It was disgusting. If Oprah KNEW she was going to ask that question, as a professional journalist/interviewer, she should have doe her own research into how Archie's title would be given. To insinuate it was because of his potential skin tone is absolutely disgusting.

I think Oprah and her ilk go for shock value. Part of why some people avoid celebrity exposes.

 

[TLSnell1981]

I can’t like your post per se, but it does explain some things about Meghan.

and her mom disinvited her dad from her wedding. Sound familiar?

 

[snappy]

and her mom disinvited her dad from her wedding. Sound familiar?

Like mother, like daughter

 

[Wendy31]

I am sure this recent interview that he just gave.... will go a long way to showing how he has changed, I mean not like he ran out immedietly to sell his story ... again


He has shown, and continues to show, a disregard for their wishes.

Maybe he was a good dad once, right now he is not showing himself to be very trustworthy

Everything that Meghan‘s dad has done Meghan herself has done.

She has also told “her side of the story,” knowing that, in doing so, she put the royal family in a very difficult position, & she has continued to show a disregard for her husband’s family wishes.

And I don’t find her to be all that trustworthy.

 

[LuvOrlando]

I can't look away

 

[Pea-n-Me]

My dad was a decent dad growing up, but has been toxic in my adult life and I no longer have contact with him. It’s easy to judge that as an outsider, but I did what was best for my family and me. So no, being a good dad when one was young doesn’t automatically earn you a place at the table when you’re older. And for as much as anybody thinks they know, all we really know are what they each say and what we read in tabloids. So neither side can say they know the most. I’m sure my dad’s version of what was the ending for us is very different than mine. As a matter of fact, I know it is. That doesn’t make either one of us more right than the other.

I agree with what you are saying, of course. But it wasn’t the case for them. They were fine until that incident.

But you know, everyone sees this differently. I, personally, had a similar situation with my own father. And I am so glad we reconciled, because when he passed away unexpectedly shortly afterward, my heart was light.

Forgiveness is for oneself.

 

[snappy]

I agree with what you are saying, of course. But it wasn’t the case for them. They were fine until that incident.

But you know, everyone sees this differently. I, personally, had a similar situation with my own father. And I am so glad we reconciled, because when he passed away unexpectedly shortly afterward, my heart was light.

Forgiveness is for oneself.

Forgiveness also sets an example for our kids. They see a lot, even at a young age.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

I agree with what you are saying, of course. But it wasn’t the case for them. They were fine until that incident.

But you know, everyone sees this differently. I, personally, had a similar situation with my own father. And I am so glad we reconciled, because when he passed away unexpectedly shortly afterward, my heart was light.

Forgiveness is for oneself.

But what I’m saying is that we don’t know they were fine before that. We don’t know that they weren’t. I have plenty of photos with my dad and I went to visit him when things weren’t fine. They just hadn’t hit the breaking point. So it’s not a fair judgment. Unless any of us are Meghan or her dad, we don’t get to say how it was. All we know is what we see from the outside. And ALL of us know that is never the full picture.

I’m glad you were able to reconcile with your dad. But certainly you see that isn’t the correct path for everybody? Maybe she will one day and maybe she won’t. Maybe she isn’t in that place to be able to do it yet. But that isn’t for us to decide. We don’t get to pick the timeline in which she does it (if at all).

I won’t pretend she is innocent and he’s the bad guy. But that so many of you automatically assume he’s a saint is laughable and shows how clearly biased you are. It takes two to tango and problems, especially ones this deep, are never one sided.

ETA: I am not ready to forgive and move forward with my dad. I don’t know that I’ll ever be. Right now, I think I’d be ok if I didn’t. That doesn’t make me a horrible person.

 

[Karin1984]

My dad was a decent dad growing up, but has been toxic in my adult life and I no longer have contact with him. It’s easy to judge that as an outsider, but I did what was best for my family and me. So no, being a good dad when one was young doesn’t automatically earn you a place at the table when you’re older. And for as much as anybody thinks they know, all we really know are what they each say and what we read in tabloids. So neither side can say they know the most. I’m sure my dad’s version of what was the ending for us is very different than mine. As a matter of fact, I know it is. That doesn’t make either one of us more right than the other.


Are you a part of the BRF? Did you go to high school with Meghan? Your hatred of her & Harry is alarmingly intense.

I get your point and agree with you. I also agree with you that not every parent deserves to be forgiven. And they have to make up in their own time.
Saying on international television that your father betrayed you, and him reacting to it, shows they are not ready yet.

My point was more, that based on how it seems, what we seem to know is that Thomas made one huge mistake. When do 'we' decide to forgive one, but not the other.
The interview wasn't really about Meghan's family, all we heard about was the incident with the press before the wedding. We do not know what else happened in the years before.

I hadn't spoken to my father for 7 years, and it took a bit of pressure of my mom and my brother. It was terrible in the beginning and awkward in the following years, but I am glad we were working on our relationship before he passed away.
I hope for Meghan and anyone in a similar situation to get that chance.

 

[TLSnell1981]

The world is made up of many beautiful shades of gray...not black or white. Meghan seems to cut people and leave them cold if they don't dance to her tune. Not a personality I would choose to interact with...

 

[Pea-n-Me]

My point in posting about Thomas wasn’t about how they should reconcile. It was because of what he had to say about the issues of skin color, which I thought were good, and typical of how he sees things, and how he raised Meghan.

Again

”This whole thing about colour and how dark the baby is is bull****. I married a very beautiful black woman and had a beautiful child. And if she had turned out dark it wouldn't have been a problem. If she'd turned out anything in between it wouldn't have been a problem, a beautiful baby.'

He added: 'A racist comment should be investigated. But all I'm saying is it could have been just a stupid question from someone. You know, someone who doesn't understand a black person marries a white person, what do you get, you know? You never know but you get a baby. That's what you get, you get a baby.

On what he'd say to the couple

'I'd like to say again, I'm sorry for what I've done. This was two years ago. This was a long time ago and I've certainly tried to make up for it. The stories in the paper, each time are because I haven't heard from you. They know where I live, now we're closer together, they're probably 70 miles from me now. So, I'm available any time that we can get together. I'd love to get together. I'd certainly like to see my grandson. I've never stopped loving my daughter. I don't always agree with the things my children do, but I never stop loving my children. I certainly love Meghan. She can be angry with me and tell Oprah how angry she is, but I'm still her dad. If you ever look at Tig [website], there was a thing where she spoke about me, she made a statement saying there should be more guys like my dad. So there must be something good left here somewhere'.”

 

[Wendy31]

In my mind, a truly smart, strong, mature person would decide or realize -

“You know, just because ’they’re’ saying things about me doesn’t make what they’re saying true. I can choose to live my life graciously, &, by the choices I make, prove them wrong - without me even having to say one word.”

However, Meghan, in deciding to tell her “side of things,” has proven every negative thing anyone has ever said about her.

 

[TLSnell1981]

My point in posting about Thomas wasn’t about how they should reconcile. It was because of what he had to say about the issues of skin color, which I thought were good, and typical of how he sees things, and how he raised Meghan.

Again

”This whole thing about colour and how dark the baby is is bull****. I married a very beautiful black woman and had a beautiful child. And if she had turned out dark it wouldn't have been a problem. If she'd turned out anything in between it wouldn't have been a problem, a beautiful baby.'

He added: 'A racist comment should be investigated. But all I'm saying is it could have been just a stupid question from someone. You know, someone who doesn't understand a black person marries a white person, what do you get, you know? You never know but you get a baby. That's what you get, you get a baby.

On what he'd say to the couple

'I'd like to say again, I'm sorry for what I've done. This was two years ago. This was a long time ago and I've certainly tried to make up for it. The stories in the paper, each time are because I haven't heard from you. They know where I live, now we're closer together, they're probably 70 miles from me now. So, I'm available any time that we can get together. I'd love to get together. I'd certainly like to see my grandson. I've never stopped loving my daughter. I don't always agree with the things my children do, but I never stop loving my children. I certainly love Meghan. She can be angry with me and tell Oprah how angry she is, but I'm still her dad. If you ever look at Tig [website], there was a thing where she spoke about me, she made a statement saying there should be more guys like my dad. So there must be something good left here somewhere'.”

Thomas Markle sounds like a good dad. I especially liked his remark about the "snotty Prince." He doesn't care who Harry is...only that he should've been more supportive of his daughter. Yep. A good dad. MM doesn't deserve him. IMO

 

[Karin1984]

My point in posting about Thomas wasn’t about how they should reconcile. It was because of what he had to say about the issues of skin color, which I thought were good, and typical of how he sees things, and how he raised Meghan.

Again

”This whole thing about colour and how dark the baby is is bull****. I married a very beautiful black woman and had a beautiful child. And if she had turned out dark it wouldn't have been a problem. If she'd turned out anything in between it wouldn't have been a problem, a beautiful baby.'

He added: 'A racist comment should be investigated. But all I'm saying is it could have been just a stupid question from someone. You know, someone who doesn't understand a black person marries a white person, what do you get, you know? You never know but you get a baby. That's what you get, you get a baby.

On what he'd say to the couple

'I'd like to say again, I'm sorry for what I've done. This was two years ago. This was a long time ago and I've certainly tried to make up for it. The stories in the paper, each time are because I haven't heard from you. They know where I live, now we're closer together, they're probably 70 miles from me now. So, I'm available any time that we can get together. I'd love to get together. I'd certainly like to see my grandson. I've never stopped loving my daughter. I don't always agree with the things my children do, but I never stop loving my children. I certainly love Meghan. She can be angry with me and tell Oprah how angry she is, but I'm still her dad. If you ever look at Tig [website], there was a thing where she spoke about me, she made a statement saying there should be more guys like my dad. So there must be something good left here somewhere'.”

I hadn't read the full article of the Thomas Markle interview. But this bit made me curious about the Tig. Luckily there are archives.
In 2014 she wrote a glowing review for her dad for Father's Day. Things can change quickly in four years (non sarcastic remark).

https://thetigarchives.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F185842357490

 

[mousefan73]

Sky News Reporter just now:
basically said BP staff are perplexed on why they would do this.. as supposidly all riffs and issues have been resolved. " when the war is over, why start bombing again" was the comment from BP staff. Not official but the press have their contacts.. so maybe only 98% true

a VERY good point. consensus over here in the EU is that this interview has killed any relationship Harry might have hoped for with his family.

then I had this thought.. Maybe Harry and Meghan didnt have a choice and HAD to the internview.. From my understanding he has a project with Oprah. Knowiing how she is a great business person and and have heard the many stories on how shrewd she can be. My guess she dangled the money carrot but with a price. Here’s a lucrative project but I want this interview.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

I mentioned several pages back that I had a hard time understanding the part of the interview about Archie receiving the title of prince. Were they upset that the queen wasn’t going to make the same exception for him as she had for Charlotte and Louis, or were they saying they were being told Archie would never be eligible for the title even after Charles took the throne when, according to 100-year-old convention, he should be entitled? The NY Times and The Guardian are reporting it’s the latter:

“Under a royal convention, established by King George V in 1917, Archie was not given the title of prince at his birth, since he was a great-grandson — not a son or grandson — of the reigning monarch, Queen Elizabeth II. Were his grandfather, Prince Charles, to ascend the throne, Archie would automatically assume the title of prince, provided the royal family sticks to the rules.

But Meghan said that during her pregnancy, the royal family discussed changing the rules to deprive Archie of the princely title permanently. “I think even with that convention I’m talking about, while I was pregnant, they said they want to change the convention for Archie,” she said.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/08/world/europe/archie-prince.html
“The Sussexes indicated in the interview that they had expected Archie would be given the title of prince after Charles acceded the throne, but that they had been told that protocols would be changed - in line with Charles’s wish for a slimmed down monarchy - so that Archie would be excluded from becoming an HRH and prince.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...rry-son-archie-denied-title-prince-mixed-race
That would make more sense as to why no one could give them an answer as to why, as they were claiming, because it should’ve been pretty easy to explain if they were just following the rules already on the books. I wish that part of the interview had been more clear.