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A little back info. I know I will get flamed but what the heck, I need some advice because I am now caught in LIMBO and feeling worse every single day.

Some months ago, dsd (17) told her bio mom some things that were untrue. Some things were outright lies, but some of them were from a teenage, one sided perspective. I am old enough to understand that teens come from a point of angst, drama and woe is me. Teenage girls are tough cookies. Anyway, to make a long story short she was called on some of it by her dad. To understand, her mom called and more or less reamed me a whole new one. I was completely innocent. I have worked two jobs to get the money together for her to go to school. I WILL admit I bought the basic school supplies and told her if she wants anything special, she would have to purchase them herself. I covered tuition and all books and basic school supplies. She basically told mom I said she was on her own. She does have a job etc. She does not do anything but save and by whatever she would like with her money. I never said that. There were some other things that were hurtful but ya know, sometimes you just have to live with it. Anyway, to make a long story short after crying for a little while I told dh to handle it. It was unfair. Now, dsd is not speaking to me, basically has said I am no one and that whether I like or not I should be doing everything. I 'owe' her. Ummm...no I don't. She has taken driver's ed and has worked for 2 years. (she is 18 next month), the deal with her dad she has to have enough saved for one years insurance and backup cash for maintenance before he get her a car. So, everyday one of us takes her to school, or work, or her religious hall. Everyday. Because she has 700 in the bank after 2 years of working. Next week, her schedule for college startes with a 7am class and ends with a 3pm class. I work varying shifts, so some days will be doable but some days I have to go in at 6am. Her dad leaves at 4/5 am usually. Anway, this morning I am taking her to work and I ask if she has found the last book she needs and how much. One word answer. Yes. I say again how much. She says 150.00. I say o.k. I ask if she anything is left undone for the college, I am off today and want to get everything taken care of, a fee or something I may have missed. No she says. I drop her off at work, she gets out and walks into work.

Honestly, she is a teen, but this business of treating other people like crap..I hate it. Its not just me either. Her mom has never had custody of her, is more like a friend to her. She is allowed to speak to her anyway she wants and I have cautioned her more than once that it is disrespectful.

Anyway, today I feel like just not doing anythig for her for awhile. Its not a step child thing, I have raised her since she was 8. Its the whole I owe her attitude that is killing me. The fact that she tried to make up some stories so her mom would be oh you poor poor thing drives me insane. We should be passed that phase. Lately, I have been making her dad do all the work revolving around picking up and dropping off. I can't stand the whole no speaking and clipped replies. I know I know, I should be the bigger person and I am trying...really trying but...I am tired and feeling put out. The worst part is the catalyst for the whole darn thing was that my ex sent our dd who is also in college a new laptop. Hers was a few years old, and he wanted her to have it. My sdd has complained that it isn't fair and she should also get a new one. Hers is one year old, I bought it for her in Jan. This is her freshman year, I think a one year old laptop will be fine for a little longer. It is not top of the line but I specifically bought one that would work for students at the advice of a few friends.

So you think its just me getting old and fuddy duddy, unable to handle teenagers even though I have two more to go, or do I really need a come a Jesus moment with dear sd?

Kelly
 
Your DH needs to have the come to Jesus meeting with her...not you.

And yes, this is typical dramatic teenage behavior. Grow thicker skin and pass the nonsense on to her father. Sorry you're dealing with this, but I assure you that you aren't alone and she is not the first/last/worst teenager to ever act this way. She isn't special or even especially awful. She is typical.

Call her bluff and refuse to engage her. Try giving her no responses or just not speaking to her. Taste of her own medicine and such.
 
Your DH needs to have the come to Jesus meeting with her...not you.

And yes, this is typical dramatic teenage behavior. Grow thicker skin and pass the nonsense on to her father. Sorry you're dealing with this, but I assure you that you aren't alone and she is not the first/last/worst teenager to ever act this way. She isn't special or even especially awful. She is typical.

Call her bluff and refuse to engage her. Try giving her no responses or just not speaking to her. Taste of her own medicine and such.

I do try to keep things to a minimum with her. I agree with the her and her dad should have the moment. But, I am starting to feel like that is part of the problem. Sometimes, I feel like if I just come out and say hey you are not being very nice and really I don't deserve it, should come out of my mouth not her dads.

But yes, maybe that would be the right thing to do.

Kelly
 
I can't believe you are carting her butt around when she treats you like that. If I treated my mom like that when I was 17/18, she would have been like, "find your own rides!"
 

I am a step mom, met my DSS at 5. Had pretty much 50/50 custody and then he moved in with us at 13 , until his bratty entitled crap sent him on his way out at 18 almost 19 ... Long story , but at 22 he is a good kiddo, grew up and making his way in the world and we all get along great He was having a 18 year entitled year .

You don't like how she is treating you , tell her. I remember vividly the day I told my DSS , I can be your best friend or not , its all up to you . You aren't going to treat me like crap and get ANYTHING out of me. Now he was 6 , but same goes for a 18 year old. At 6 he was just mad his parents were together and he was ugly to me constantly . I had nothing to do with them not being together , they divorced when he was two and I reminded him of it too. Things got much better after he figured out I wasn't playing , no nice, no toys, trips , movie dates nothing from me.

ALot of this is a step child thing, lets play the parents against each other. It hurts so much, I can remember crying my eyes at several times over it and then I learned to tell his Mom to "kiss my butt " when she tried to say we were doing things to him we knew we weren't and not get in a knot about things. She will grow up , I promise..

As far as a big talk about everything, let her Dad handle that, but I don't see one thing wrong with you telling her to drop the crap with you . : )
 
No advice. My 17 year old niece treats my sister (her mom) the same way. It breaks my heart to watch it. I hope time will heal this wound-- and her attitude.
 
You sound like a caring, loving mother. And that is what you are to this child that you have reared for 10 years, her mother. I don't think stepping back because you are technically her stepmother is right -- step back from her because she is making you nuts!!! That is understandable.

You have every right to get fed up with her for acting the way she is and manipulating the situation (complaining about her laptop when it's perfectly find and using her bio mother in her little battle.)

Sit her down at the kitchen talbe and lay down some ground rules for her behavior, with repercussions that you can follow through with. And I would be making sure that she is saving a portion of the money she makes for buying a car -- enough with you carting her around!

Good luck! Unofrtunately teenagers are hell.
 
Does your town/city have a decent public transportation system? I think DSD needs a little taste of real life. Working 2 years and only has $700 saved towards a car? Of course. She doesn't NEED a car while she has an indentured driver to cart her entitled behind around! Get a public bus map (or two), figure out the route(s) she needs to take to get to/from school, and get her an unlimited ride monthly pass. Bonus: she'll have that nice long daily commute to use for studying time. :thumbsup2

As for the laptop? Remind her that your DD's non-custodial parent bought her laptop. DSD should take up the "fairness" issue with her OWN non-custodial parent.

And as for the snippy answers, I agree with a PP - return in kind. She'll eventually figure it out when she needs something from you. ;)

:hug:
 
I dont have real advice because I'm not a mom to teens but I'm wondering if you are upset because it sounds like you are busting *** to help pay for the stuff for this daughter in addition to hauling her around.

Are you just resentful? I certainly would make it known that she isn't so special and deserves everything and then give attitude while you are doing all this to help her.
 
Sounds like she REALLY needs to learn how much you really do--I say the checks stop NOW. If she REALLY thinks she has it so bad, by golly I guess you are right and she can pay her OWN way through school :rolleyes1.

For those that say this is "normal teen behavior" bull whacky. It is "normal" if you ALLOW it to happen. Just because they are teens doesn't mean that gives them free reign to treat people like crap.

Bio mom can pay for college if she doesn't like it....
 
A little back info. I know I will get flamed but what the heck, I need some advice because I am now caught in LIMBO and feeling worse every single day.

Some months ago, dsd (17) told her bio mom some things that were untrue. Some things were outright lies, but some of them were from a teenage, one sided perspective. I am old enough to understand that teens come from a point of angst, drama and woe is me. Teenage girls are tough cookies. Anyway, to make a long story short she was called on some of it by her dad. To understand, her mom called and more or less reamed me a whole new one. I was completely innocent. I have worked two jobs to get the money together for her to go to school. I WILL admit I bought the basic school supplies and told her if she wants anything special, she would have to purchase them herself. I covered tuition and all books and basic school supplies. She basically told mom I said she was on her own. She does have a job etc. She does not do anything but save and by whatever she would like with her money. I never said that. There were some other things that were hurtful but ya know, sometimes you just have to live with it. Anyway, to make a long story short after crying for a little while I told dh to handle it. It was unfair. Now, dsd is not speaking to me, basically has said I am no one and that whether I like or not I should be doing everything. I 'owe' her. Ummm...no I don't. She has taken driver's ed and has worked for 2 years. (she is 18 next month), the deal with her dad she has to have enough saved for one years insurance and backup cash for maintenance before he get her a car. So, everyday one of us takes her to school, or work, or her religious hall. Everyday. Because she has 700 in the bank after 2 years of working. Next week, her schedule for college startes with a 7am class and ends with a 3pm class. I work varying shifts, so some days will be doable but some days I have to go in at 6am. Her dad leaves at 4/5 am usually. Anway, this morning I am taking her to work and I ask if she has found the last book she needs and how much. One word answer. Yes. I say again how much. She says 150.00. I say o.k. I ask if she anything is left undone for the college, I am off today and want to get everything taken care of, a fee or something I may have missed. No she says. I drop her off at work, she gets out and walks into work.

Honestly, she is a teen, but this business of treating other people like crap..I hate it. Its not just me either. Her mom has never had custody of her, is more like a friend to her. She is allowed to speak to her anyway she wants and I have cautioned her more than once that it is disrespectful.

Anyway, today I feel like just not doing anythig for her for awhile. Its not a step child thing, I have raised her since she was 8. Its the whole I owe her attitude that is killing me. The fact that she tried to make up some stories so her mom would be oh you poor poor thing drives me insane. We should be passed that phase. Lately, I have been making her dad do all the work revolving around picking up and dropping off. I can't stand the whole no speaking and clipped replies. I know I know, I should be the bigger person and I am trying...really trying but...I am tired and feeling put out. The worst part is the catalyst for the whole darn thing was that my ex sent our dd who is also in college a new laptop. Hers was a few years old, and he wanted her to have it. My sdd has complained that it isn't fair and she should also get a new one. Hers is one year old, I bought it for her in Jan. This is her freshman year, I think a one year old laptop will be fine for a little longer. It is not top of the line but I specifically bought one that would work for students at the advice of a few friends.

So you think its just me getting old and fuddy duddy, unable to handle teenagers even though I have two more to go, or do I really need a come a Jesus moment with dear sd?

Kelly

I don't think you are wrong. The only thing you really owe her is to not engage her poor behavior, and it sounds like you are handling that well. Since sitting down with the bio mom isn't an option, maybe you could take dsd out to lunch and lay everything out for her. Explain how much you love and care for her, point out what you are doing for her for college (and that you plan to keep helping her), and then tell her how she is hurting you. She is old enough to hear the truth, especially if you use the right tone.
 
This is a tough age. Kids want their independence, well because-"I'm 18 and now a grown up". It is also a very scary time for them too. They are expected to pick a direction after high school- get a full time job, go to the military or a college major for a full time job.

It is easier to just try to not have to face the adult decisions.

We always said you are not grown up until you are financially independent of us. You will hear this again as she nears 21 and still needs your money.

Telling her that you understand that some parts of growing up are not fun. Tell her you love her even when she isn't acting very loveable.

The one word answers are coming from this transition from childhood to adolescence to adult. It is perfectly fine to tell her that people who love each other don't treat each other that way. Also adults don't act that way either.

It is perfectly fine to provide the basics needed for college and if she wants something fancier, then she contributes some of the money she has earned. I bet her money will be spent frugally.

We required our DDs to contribute 30% to their college costs. They took college seriously because it was their money too.

As for money for a car- does she really need a car for school? We said no car until after college graduation and only if you had a job.
 
no flames here. This girl is acting like a butt. I'm sure she thinks she has her reasons, but there is no acceptable excuse for treating you this way. Her DAD needs to man up and deal with this RIGHT NOW. Your DH is being disrespectful to YOU by avoiding taking action.

i don't have step children but i have a DS25 who decided to be a butt in high school. He was most obnoxious and condescending. The first thing i did was take away his taxi service(he didn't have a license until he was 20). You can't treat me with respect? i'm under NO obligation to tote your nasty self around in my car. DH had a man-to-man talk with DS when he was 17 and reminded him that although we were obligated to care for him until he was 18, we expected him to remain respectful. And that after the age of 18 we were under NO obligation to do anything for him at all and that if he continued to be unkind or disrespectful he would find himself living in a tent on the corner. And he wasn't kidding either!

No parent needs to be bullied. I realize that sometimes step parents have different issues, but this is something that you and your DH need to work out together. Then when you SD decides to go crying to her mom(and she will!) your DH needs to be the one to talk to HER about SD's supposed woes. Perhaps if DSD can't control herself, maybe she needs to go live with her mother for the rest of the school year. Things might look greener on the other side of her fence, but i doubt they truly are.
 
First off HUGS! You are a good Mom, let's just take the step part out of it. Being a Mom has nothing to do with blood lines:goodvibes.

My DSD is 14 years old and an only. I am an only too so it was actually interesting for me to watch her play her parents. She would tell DH that her DM was not paying enough attention and tell her DM the same about DH. I caught on faster than the other two because I could see the torment in both of them. First I sat DSD down and explained from one only to another that this BS needed to stop. Nobody wins in these situations. She was doing this at the time to deflect the fact that she wasn't doing well at school:) She didn't want to get into trouble so she "tried" to make it so DM & DH would feel guilty about other things. I also sent an email to both DH and his Ex. I basically reminded them of the facts and reminded them that before we go around accusing eachother we should probably communicate better to get a better perspective. It doesnt' always work. . . I was told last year that my DSD wasn't there to clean my house during the summer. :rolleyes: What DSD had neglected to tell her mother was that she had a chore list. Each chore was assessed a value. If she completed the chore she got paid for it. Her paydays were on Wednesdays. Chores did not have to be done every day that she was there and were up to her. Well, DSD got upset because I asked her after one week when nothing was done if we were still doing the program and she said yes. I reminded her she had to work to get paid. There was no free lunch. She was 13 and it wasn't as if I was making her dust the crown moldings or mow the lawn! After DH received the email from Ex regarding "cleaning my house everyday" chores were taken away and so was her money earning ablility for the rest of the summer. She lied because she got into trouble and didn't want to work for the money so therefore no more jobs, no more money. I explained this concept to her, with her dad present, and told her that under no circumstances was I going to play that game.

My DSD loves and respects me. She doesn't always like me and her mother and I have very different ways of looking at things but I believe since they don't conflict it gives her a broader perspective. I'm the one who gets the news from school, who can gets asked advice; who goes clothes shopping and at times,who gives the honest truth which hurts but there are no secrets and she knows I love her with all my heart and I'm always there for her.

So long explanation short, you take the bull by the horns, you speak to her. YOU have earned that right and you are the MOM/adult. It is our job to teach and mentor the right way to go about things so our children will be successful in life. Sure it sucks at times but she is your child. You may not be able to change her behavior but you can change your own and do not enable her to continue to disrespect you. It doesn neither of you any good.

Best of luck Momma! I'm sure you will do the right thing, you already have by asking for help and advice:lovestruc
 
Sounds like she REALLY needs to learn how much you really do--I say the checks stop NOW. If she REALLY thinks she has it so bad, by golly I guess you are right and she can pay her OWN way through school :rolleyes1.

For those that say this is "normal teen behavior" bull whacky. It is "normal" if you ALLOW it to happen. Just because they are teens doesn't mean that gives them free reign to treat people like crap.

Bio mom can pay for college if she doesn't like it....

aMEN!!! :worship: bull WHACKY!!! :lmao:
 
Sounds like she REALLY needs to learn how much you really do--I say the checks stop NOW. If she REALLY thinks she has it so bad, by golly I guess you are right and she can pay her OWN way through school :rolleyes1.

For those that say this is "normal teen behavior" bull whacky. It is "normal" if you ALLOW it to happen. Just because they are teens doesn't mean that gives them free reign to treat people like crap.

Bio mom can pay for college if she doesn't like it....

Who said it was normal?

I said it was typical teen drama type crap. Certainly NOT normal, and definitely not acceptable.
 
I dont have real advice because I'm not a mom to teens but I'm wondering if you are upset because it sounds like you are busting *** to help pay for the stuff for this daughter in addition to hauling her around.

Are you just resentful? I certainly would make it known that she isn't so special and deserves everything and then give attitude while you are doing all this to help her.

I would be resentful if I busted my butt doing those things and got lies and attitude in return. OP, make sure your DH stresses what you do for her and that it is not owed. Your SD should show some gratitude and respect! And if she was riding with me, she'd have an attitude adjustment real quick or my engine wouldn't start for her.
 
Who said it was normal?

I said it was typical teen drama type crap. Certainly NOT normal, and definitely not acceptable.

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I disagree--it is not TYPICAL, you do NOT have to allow this behavior. In our kids' circle of friends there is ONE girl that acts like this and the rest of the kids just pretty much tell her to shut up. It is NOT Typical--it is an allowed behavior by some parents.
 
Thank you for all the persectives. Her mom won't help with her college. Just the way it is. I have helped all my children the first 2 years of college, and I will do the same here. I feel like I do want them to have that. As a sophomore all of them have been required to have jobs and start paying for their expenses, most of them already had enough saved from summer/high school jobs. I never have expected them to use that for anything but those 'extras' we, as we grow up, would like. I think there is a time to understand want vs need and this has been my approach.

My dh feels like she is the youngest of his girls and there has always been a bit of babying going on. It is his child, I never interfere with whatever he feels is best. I would honestly say, even after all these years, I still feel like I have to walk on eggshells when there is a problem. Dh wants to instantly use the excuse of her mom not being around, she has had it rough..bull hockey. She has been here since she was 8. She has not wanted for anything, has always been given the same as the others in THIS house. The problem typically lies with my kids and their dad most of the time. I can't change the fact that sometimes he does nice things for them. For the 2 of us, divorce did not change our parenting. We both still raise them as we would were we together. They have a great stepmom finally, and they know that they will treat her with respect and kindness. In this situation, dh's ex pretty much made it clear to the girls, I am not their mother, I do everything but she is the mother. For a long time the girls know that if they tell her something, she will immediately call me or their dad and give us a piece of her mind. I try sometimes because I know mom is unwell, literally, but it gets old. The girls are old enough now to not manipulate situations. Its almost as if 'this time' when they do this their mom will finally send her 5 bucks or buy her something. That is not going to happen, maybe someday but I guess when you are a kid, you hold out hope forever.

I appreciate all the words. I want to stop doing everything for dd. I do think it would be better. (I only used the step in this post because I figured it would make it clearer what the issue was). I never call her that in real life. Dh seems to think that I should be more understanding that she is jealous that my kids get extra's sometimes from their dad. He will be somewhere (military) and send them something from wherever he is, he saw that dd's laptop had some wear and tear from a couple years of back and forth to school, so he got her one, he does send things from time to time like a gift card for them to go to the movies. I just don't want to feel guilty or make them feel bad. She does have a 'real' mom, whatever that is, but I can't make her do anything. And I feel like I get the brunt of it because she isn't. Ultimately I do understand being a teen, having a hard situation with your mom, but it can't be an excuse to be a jealous person with a crappy attitude. I have noticed, even her friends are starting to drop off. Her attitude has gone from decent teenage attitude to nothing ever goes my way, nobody cares, I never get anything, blah blah. The punishment does not fit the crime sometimes.

As for the car. I have no idea why in the world she even thinks her dad would buy her one, he bought none of his other dd's one, none of my children have been given a car. We have a belief system when it comes to have 2000 lbs of steel at your disposal..maturity and a little bit of self investment. We do not have public transportation but the college is a 10 minute walk from our house. On sidewalks. The problem there is she can't walk in the rain or right now because its too hot. Her dad always makes sure she is dropped off at the door so she doesn't get wet! He doesn't want her to grow up at all sometimes. Its not going to help.

I don't know. Dh knows for sure that I blame a lot of this kind of stuff on him. Its really not about the girls. Its about the fact that I sometimes feel like the maid. But honestly, I feel that way about my kids fromm time to time! I just don't get the same dual parenting that I get from my ex, and its bothersome.

Kelly
 
Thank you for all the persectives. Her mom won't help with her college. Just the way it is. I have helped all my children the first 2 years of college, and I will do the same here. I feel like I do want them to have that. As a sophomore all of them have been required to have jobs and start paying for their expenses, most of them already had enough saved from summer/high school jobs. I never have expected them to use that for anything but those 'extras' we, as we grow up, would like. I think there is a time to understand want vs need and this has been my approach.

My dh feels like she is the youngest of his girls and there has always been a bit of babying going on. It is his child, I never interfere with whatever he feels is best. I would honestly say, even after all these years, I still feel like I have to walk on eggshells when there is a problem. Dh wants to instantly use the excuse of her mom not being around, she has had it rough..bull hockey. She has been here since she was 8. She has not wanted for anything, has always been given the same as the others in THIS house. The problem typically lies with my kids and their dad most of the time. I can't change the fact that sometimes he does nice things for them. For the 2 of us, divorce did not change our parenting. We both still raise them as we would were we together. They have a great stepmom finally, and they know that they will treat her with respect and kindness. In this situation, dh's ex pretty much made it clear to the girls, I am not their mother, I do everything but she is the mother. For a long time the girls know that if they tell her something, she will immediately call me or their dad and give us a piece of her mind. I try sometimes because I know mom is unwell, literally, but it gets old. The girls are old enough now to not manipulate situations. Its almost as if 'this time' when they do this their mom will finally send her 5 bucks or buy her something. That is not going to happen, maybe someday but I guess when you are a kid, you hold out hope forever.

I appreciate all the words. I want to stop doing everything for dd. I do think it would be better. (I only used the step in this post because I figured it would make it clearer what the issue was). I never call her that in real life. Dh seems to think that I should be more understanding that she is jealous that my kids get extra's sometimes from their dad. He will be somewhere (military) and send them something from wherever he is, he saw that dd's laptop had some wear and tear from a couple years of back and forth to school, so he got her one, he does send things from time to time like a gift card for them to go to the movies. I just don't want to feel guilty or make them feel bad. She does have a 'real' mom, whatever that is, but I can't make her do anything. And I feel like I get the brunt of it because she isn't. Ultimately I do understand being a teen, having a hard situation with your mom, but it can't be an excuse to be a jealous person with a crappy attitude. I have noticed, even her friends are starting to drop off. Her attitude has gone from decent teenage attitude to nothing ever goes my way, nobody cares, I never get anything, blah blah. The punishment does not fit the crime sometimes.

As for the car. I have no idea why in the world she even thinks her dad would buy her one, he bought none of his other dd's one, none of my children have been given a car. We have a belief system when it comes to have 2000 lbs of steel at your disposal..maturity and a little bit of self investment. We do not have public transportation but the college is a 10 minute walk from our house. On sidewalks. The problem there is she can't walk in the rain or right now because its too hot. Her dad always makes sure she is dropped off at the door so she doesn't get wet! He doesn't want her to grow up at all sometimes. Its not going to help.

I don't know. Dh knows for sure that I blame a lot of this kind of stuff on him. Its really not about the girls. Its about the fact that I sometimes feel like the maid. But honestly, I feel that way about my kids fromm time to time! I just don't get the same dual parenting that I get from my ex, and its bothersome.

Kelly

You know what? If you would stop doing for your biological daughters for that kind of treatment, which I think you would, you should do the same for your stepdaughter! By not doing so, you are showing her her actions are okay. The buck has to stop somewhere.
 


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