Is it just me? There seems to be a lot less points for rent!

[Starr W.]

There definitely aren't as many posts. I think another side of the problem is not being able to post a Reservation Wanted thread. When I previously rented from someone on the DIS, it was easy to post a thread stating what I was looking for, and then talking to the folks that reply.

I rented our points out this past winter, and it was a pain in the neck to post how many I had, answer a zillion questions from people who hadn't looked into what they needed to do, juggle different people looking for varying amounts, and check on a bunch of different availabilities. I think it makes it harder to be the person renting out the points. I'll probably do it again if I need to get rid of extra points, but I may look at other sites to see if it's easier elsewhere. Of course, this is the only Disney place I post, so that probably won't work either

I think you will be plagued with the same issues on any other website. I had a few discussions with a Marriott owner to do a direct trade(DVC week for a week in HI). It didn't work out, but a lot of emails went back and forth explaining how many points, etc etc. We didn't get to the calling MS for availability(not in DVC booking window yet, thank goodness).

Though I do miss the sob stories on the R/T board, you know the ones. We need to book VWL because Grandpa isn't doing well and he used to be a lumberjack, so we need to book a 2br for Xmas but we can only pay $7 per point.

 

[gkrykewy]

Though I do miss the sob stories on the R/T board, you know the ones. We need to book VWL because Grandpa isn't doing well and he used to be a lumberjack, so we need to book a 2br for Xmas but we can only pay $7 per point.

 

[cheezNE1]

Since this has been an ongoing issue, maybe we need suggestion as to how we can increase the R/T traffic and still satisfy the board's intentions.

 

[GEB@okw]

Since this has been an ongoing issue, maybe we need suggestion as to how we can increase the R/T traffic and still satisfy the board's intentions.

Why would I post on a rent trade board and subsidize someone else's vacation when I can rent on other websites? $10 a points does not pay your costs to own. The new rules on the rent trade board are somewhat goofy. I rent as many as 30 reservations a year under six accounts all at $12.50 each. Do not give away your vacation dollars.

 

[ibela]

Since I haven't posted in a while...

I think daddio's service used to be more valuable then it is now, since he can't be on the account anymore I'd imagine the risk is just the same except the cost is higher. That said, hopefully the required number of posts decreases. I've been a lot more busy lately than I was in the past and don't think I manage 2-3 posts a week.

And also gone are the "I looked at the charts and know I need 52 points for a 2br MK view at BLT for 10 days in July" posts.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

One comment about the various companies that will rent out your points (Daddio's is not the only game in town by the way).

You as the owner are now doing more work as these "rental providers" (as I like to call them) can't be on your account as an associate anymore. Now if they find a renter for you, you must be available AT THE MOMENT THEY CONTACT YOU to book that reservation for the person they are working with that wants to rent your points. IF YOU DON'T RESPOND AND BOOK WITHIN A SPECIFIED TIMEFRAME THEY MOVE ON TO THE NEXT OWNER. This is not convenient for those that work during the day.

Also, there is a minimum amount of points that these "rental providers" will rent for an owner. So if you have say 80 points or less you want to rent, you will most likely be SOL with these rental companies.

So for the average DVC owner that has less than 100 points, there are few alternatives if your not a participating member with the DIS .

Since I haven't posted in a while...

I think daddio's service used to be more valuable then it is now, since he can't be on the account anymore I'd imagine the risk is just the same except the cost is higher. That said, hopefully the required number of posts decreases. I've been a lot more busy lately than I was in the past and don't think I manage 2-3 posts a week.

And also gone are the "I looked at the charts and know I need 52 points for a 2br MK view at BLT for 10 days in July" posts.

 

[Lewisc]

I suspect sites like David's is affecting the market. $12-$13 /point I don't have to worry about a crooked seller. I don't have to spend time researching the owner. Responding to many PMs until I find a fit. Look hard enough I can still find someone renting for $10 and save some money. Is it worth paying $11-$12 when a renter can minimize risks for almost the same price?

From the owners viewpoint. Go through the hassle and get $10/ point or take $9 a point and let someone else screen the renters. Again if you you can get $12 a point it might be worth it. I think people renting are looking for $10 (or less). I'll speculate you'll have to go through a lot of hard luck stories before you'll find a person willing to pay more then $10.

New rules probably don't help. Last time I rented I posted what I was looking for. A couple of DVC owners responded and I got a deal. I suspect some owners preferred to respond to posts rather then have to screen many posts.

Is it possible the availability of Bonnet Creek is having an impact? $120/night for a two bedroom.

Last time I was looking to rent there were a couple of con artists "renting" points. I don't remember if they were owners or were just renting the same points multiple times. I don't know how many "issues" never made it to the boards. I suspect some of the rules were made to reduce the aggravation of DIS dealing with "issues". Despite all the disclaimers I'm sure parties try to get DIS involved when there are "issues"

 

[LIFERBABE]

I don't know how many "issues" never made it to the boards. I suspect some of the rules were made to reduce the aggravation of DIS dealing with "issues". Despite all the disclaimers I'm sure parties try to get DIS involved when there are "issues"

I agree. People that did not rent on the DIS come here for answers when there are issues. The mods have been more than gracious and welcoming and consoling when issues arise whether from a DISer or otherwise.

This is not a "big bad marketplace" like Craigslist or Ebay. You have to put your big girl/boy pants on, if you tread into those waters.

DIS is consistently cheaper than Redweek or Tug. Those owners are highly educated in the timeshare world and are not giving their points away. I've seen many sites with weeks worth of reservations listed, good weeks and not cheap. Not judging, just not happening on the DIS.

I see the opposite with the rules change. Look at how many people were using the DIS as a fruitful marketplace with little or no input to the community that created and supports the marketplace. Now they are gone just as quick as they came because 2 posts a month is just too taxing.

I dont think the DIS is looking to be competitive, or have the most hits to its RTB. They want to provide a market for the community and their sponsors. They ask for minimum input for that privilege. Agree or DISagree those are the rules. The web is a vast place, with unlimited potential.

The DIS is not the end all to be all, and they are ok with that. With the click of a mouse we can all go somewhere else if we are not happy here.

 

[cheezNE1]

I agree. People that did not rent on the DIS come here for answers when there are issues. The mods have been more than gracious and welcoming and consoling when issues arise whether from a DISer or otherwise.

This is not a "big bad marketplace" like Craigslist or Ebay. You have to put your big girl/boy pants on, if you tread into those waters.

DIS is consistently cheaper than Redweek or Tug. Those owners are highly educated in the timeshare world and are not giving their points away. I've seen many sites with weeks worth of reservations listed, good weeks and not cheap. Not judging, just not happening on the DIS.

I see the opposite with the rules change. Look at how many people were using the DIS as a fruitful marketplace with little or no input to the community that created and supports the marketplace. Now they are gone just as quick as they came because 2 posts a month is just too taxing.

I dont think the DIS is looking to be competitive, or have the most hits to its RTB. They want to provide a market for the community and their sponsors. They ask for minimum input for that privilege. Agree or DISagree those are the rules. The web is a vast place, with unlimited potential.

The DIS is not the end all to be all, and they are ok with that. With the click of a mouse we can all go somewhere else if we are not happy here.

I come to this board for vast info from very well educated ppl who knows their DVC. I don't post on R/T to make money, but to get rid of points that i don't or can't use. So on occasion, I do rent out points at very low price. But if i were to make a few bucks, then I definitely would post elsewhere for rent, like ebay. I like coming here because i can get info and sometimes share a few (not much) and then rent them out to good ppl here if i wanted to. But i guess now the whole game has change and so be it. Everybody was benefiting from it back then. More and cheaper points to rent and great place to get rid of unused points as long as the renter/rentee are legit. I don't see what was so bad about that. In fact, those who did not contribute to the board renting out points here are actually contributing in a different way. They were contributing their points to renters by offering reasonable price and availability to anyone that was looking for a nice vacation. As long as the member is legit with reference and not a scammer, I don't wee what was so bad about it. Everybody benefited.
Also, as to 2 post per months... whats the point. These members still can just come and make their minimum posting just so they can rent. How is that contributing to the board even if they have no intention of contributing anyway. It's just numbers.

 

[CMcDisney]

I agree their needs to be rules to prevent rental mongers from clogging up the boards, 50 in 6 months is tough to keep pace with but I'll give it my best shot !

 

[cheezNE1]

I agree their needs to be rules to prevent rental mongers from clogging up the boards, 50 in 6 months is tough to keep pace with but I'll give it my best shot !

This is exactly my point... ppl here are so caught up with these numbers that most of the postings will soon be worthless. It's almost like a racing game, just so they can make the quota in case they have to rent out points.

 

[Escape Artist]

I think it's ironic that I'm most likely to want to rent out my points when I haven't been active on the boards. If I'm planning a trip, I'm more active. So when I'm not planning a trip, I'm less active here, and that's when I want to rent out.

So when I need to rent out, I won't qualify to post my point for rent on the DIS!



Sue in Texas

 

[cheezNE1]

same here... i tend to be more active when i have a trip booked or looking to book one. Like for restaurant info...

 

[lin7]

same here... i tend to be more active when i have a trip booked or looking to book one. Like for restaurant info...

Same here, I usually only come when I am planning a trip and than usually post for a while after the trip, if you look at my posting history I usually come in when I am planning a trip lol

 

[rascalmom]

I think it's ironic that I'm most likely to want to rent out my points when I haven't been active on the boards. If I'm planning a trip, I'm more active. So when I'm not planning a trip, I'm less active here, and that's when I want to rent out.

So when I need to rent out, I won't qualify to post my point for rent on the DIS!



Sue in Texas

I have lots of posts, but this is exactly true for me as well. DH and I are planning our first solo trip right now - and we're going in just a couple of months, so there hasn't been a lot of "lead" time for anticipation.....I usually am on the boards more when I am trip planning.

 

[WDWBlue]

Drive traffic to other websites is the only thing the rule changes have done.

Exactly.

 

[WDWBlue]

Since I haven't posted in a while...

I think daddio's service used to be more valuable then it is now, since he can't be on the account anymore I'd imagine the risk is just the same except the cost is higher. That said, hopefully the required number of posts decreases. I've been a lot more busy lately than I was in the past and don't think I manage 2-3 posts a week.

And also gone are the "I looked at the charts and know I need 52 points for a 2br MK view at BLT for 10 days in July" posts.

Big draw backs I see are all money due at time of reservation, no changes, no refunds.

This is a huge risk for renters.

 

[CarolAnnC]

This is exactly my point... ppl here are so caught up with these numbers that most of the postings will soon be worthless. It's almost like a racing game, just so they can make the quota in case they have to rent out points.

FYI, postings debating the board rules, (such as on this thread) do not count toward the Rent/Trade requirements. Also, the posts are evaluated for content. So something like "thanks" or other one word posts also are not counted for the rent/trade purpose.

 

[MelissathePooh]

I'm finding this so interesting. I had no idea there wer rules now for the R/T board. I don't think folks on the Resorts Board who throw out the option of "renting DVC points" every 10 seconds like its a given. I honestly have no problem with it - we rented points twice and that is what hooked us into buying DVC, but it does annoy me for some reason when people just assume its a guarantee and then want the best requests on top of it. I know that's petty and I hate that I feel that way.

 

[SleepyatDVC]

I think it's ironic that I'm most likely to want to rent out my points when I haven't been active on the boards. If I'm planning a trip, I'm more active. So when I'm not planning a trip, I'm less active here, and that's when I want to rent out.

So when I need to rent out, I won't qualify to post my point for rent on the DIS!



Sue in Texas

That IS ironic!

I've actually been staying AWAY from the DVC boards since my last trip 2/2010 because I was trying to skip a year after averaging 2 trips per year for the last 12 years.

When I check in here daily, I can't help but plan and book another trip.

After buying a house and trying to save money by not taking as many vacations, I was staying away from the DVC boards totally cold turkey like a alcoholic staying out of a liquor store.

Only reason I'm back now is because the extended family decided 2 months ago to plan a family reunion at WDW this July. Guess I broke my goal of staying away form WDW in 2011 anyway! Well, at least it would have been about 18 months from my last trip instead of 6 months.

Good thing I still frequented the Budget while I was staying away from the DVC boards, otherwise I don't know if I would have made 50 posts in 6 months, Actually I stilll don't know if I did. How do you try to figure it out for yourself?

Not that my post count really matter. Because after booking accomodations for almost 20 people, I no longer have any points to rent out!

I was just wondering now that I am reading and catching up here on the DVC boards after falling off the wagon.