In Search of my Body...Not The One I ate...#3 "Crowning Goddesses As We Go"

And as for the women of the trip...

It was hard for me to not be a bit envious of your alone time and although I knew my priority had to be th ekids this time...I would love another chance to be me without the kids...

They loved you all and E - Treyner thinks you are a riot...he sat closest to you so had the full on E impact....

Carsyn could not believe that there was anyone like me out there that talked and talked...

Baylor was just plain overwhelmed...but took it all in...and replayed his favorite comments from you all throughout the week...

Dan and I were having an off night I think...both just tired at that point...and truthfully...usually I am a bigger mouth and he even out talks me many times...

Right before you came...the kids were taking pics on the Boardwalk...and truthfully...I had a minor meltdown...not on them...or about them...just about me...

I will post this in hopes that you all might understand different pieces...

I never am in pics...literally never...I take pics of my kids...pics of Chad and the kids when we were together...and pics of everyone else...but I avoid them like the plague...

And E - you are right...I am taking myself out of their lives and memories by choosing this...and that night...my true weight...my true size...and my true self-worth...slapped me in the face...

I do not have a full size....long mirror in my house...rarely try on clothes at a store...and so seeing myself in a picture that night...reviewing them...expecting to see the 20 pound loss...was all good in theory...except when I saw the picstures...all I saw was my hair a friz mess with the rain...and my weight...the whole thing...not from looking down...but from a full frontal view...

And I felt like I got kicked in the gut...slapped in the face...and I did not take it well...I walked away from the kids and Dan..and seriously cried...

Dan came over...stunned...asking what is wrong..and I could not explain to him how I felt...

It was like I saw myself for the first time...for who I am as a 37 year old...overweight woman...not the potential I can be....but who I really am now...not changed as of this moment...me...

I do not know if this is making any sense to anyone...if anyone has ever had that moment in their own lives...but it was life changing...

I also felt lied to by Dan...and this is the most screwed up...please have patience with me...

I do not even know how to write this to make sense....

Dan always says I am pretty...stunning...beautiful...loves my smile...teeth...thinks I am sexy...sees my inner me and can take the pieces he thinks are perfect and look past the ones that are not...tells me he loves my face..all the time...

And I think that I started feeling about myself like he describes me...that when I looked at those pics...I was expecting someone....not me...better...thinner...prettier..does that make any sense at all...???

I felt so defeated....so...sad...I asked him to never tell me I was pretty again until I weighed less...until I felt it...and that is just wrong...I was trying to protect myself...trying to protect myself from him loving me because can't he see I am not who he describes....

Truthfully...protecting myself from the fear that he will leave that person in the picture when he realizes that she is not who he thinks she is...

He was hurt of course...but at that moment...without a moment alone to process how I felt about myself...I reacted and not well....not how I have ever reacted to him in my life...and I was pushing him away...

So that night was not my best moment...and Dan and I had not had ttime to talk...to sort things out...

He asks me why I can look past his loose skin...his weight he has left to loose...if I am so repulsed by myself...and I really took the past week to think about what I felt about myself...and how I have gotten to a place to not be able to look past my outer shell to accept my inner one...yet can do so with everyone else...

And I took pics this last week after that...and had pics taken of me by Carsyn...that I have not erased...which is a huuuuuge step for me...I started noticing that my legs are not as heavy as I thought they were....my hair is thinner but not as thin as the bald spots I was envisioning....and yes I am overweight...but I can do something about that...and seeing my real self is the best thing I could have ever done...to get to that point...

I am sorry for rambling all this here...I just had to get it out...and will read pages 171-present tonight...but first I will head to Target to get my pics on a disc..print off Christmas ones and...print some off of me as well...so I can hang them up for motivation...and acceptance...and a new determination to be where my head matches my sight...where my vision of me is the picture others see...

Oh Dawn,

So much to say.

First - you are the most courageous woman. I went back while everyone was away and tried to catch up a bit from the beginning. I was flabbergasted by your courage. By you knowing yourself. By your knowing others. By your vunerability. Take that in Dawn. Not everyone has the guts to be vunerable. Ask the cutie. I edit - edit - edit cause I simply can't emotionally hold things that I"ve put out. I feel too vunerable. This is a gift that you're sharing with all of is. It's a huge gift. Don't underestimate that for one minute.

Dan - boys - men - we are all so hard on them at times. And look at the lovliness in who loves you. He's right. Listen to him. How is it that you don't down him but you down yourself? I wonder if that makes him feel, for just a split second, that he can't fully believe your thoughts/love if you're that hard on you. Don't get me wrong. He knows you're truthful. I mean just for a split second. But look at this way. Look at how you love him Dawn. You deserve the same love. Take it in from hiim. And take it from you today. Not tomorrow. Today.

I'm going to assume from your writing to me on this thread - in code sort of - that you were abused. So have some flippin' compassion for yourself. Have it Dawn. It's totally normal to not love your body for most of us. But abuse puts another wrench in. Don't use the abuse to accept it Dawn. Use it to have some compassion for you! That you didn't singlehandly produce this lack of love in yourself. I read about your husband too. But you are the only one who can change it. Not us. Not Dan. Only you. And it doesn't have to be overnight And it can't be. Be patient and loving with yourself. One day at a time.


As for the freaking out at the picture. Every single person on this thread has done that. I hate to assume. But I'm going to. I'm sure everyone has - it is an awful moment but a good one. I've lost all my weight over years. But last Christmas I thought I looked like I was gaining some again. I did actually what you did. And guess what - 40 pounds this year of my total. So it was a positive tool. It hurt deeply. And scared the sh!t of me at the time. But it was positive. Because I made it so.

Also, I've found the more and more I've healed emotions and pain the easier this all gets. It does. Not easy. But easier for sure. You take out emotional eating - self sabotage - well it is easier.

And stop the hating of the NOW. If you hear anything I say today - hear that. Stop hating the NOW. This is something that drives me insane. Do not hate the now. Love the now too. Yes, you want different but that doesn't have to come with hating. This now will be part of the journey. Part of the before. Love her Dawn. She doesn't deserve hatred or disgust. She deserves understanding. She has taken the sh!t and ate because of pain probably. And deservess all the compassion you can muster. She knows there is a better place and you are working on it.

And she is sweet. She is sexy. She is pretty. She is Dawn. You are. Don't relegate such adjectives to being thin etc. They are not only for the thin for God sakes. Men know that why don't we? :confused3 Gosh it was a man who told me over and over that I was simply a woman who was born to be bigger. And I am. (Not quite as big though:rotfl: ). And I remember that all the time. I don't have the bones to be small and I refuse to keep beating myself up for what God gave me.

All the best to you,

Lisa
 
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Oh Dawn,

So much to say.

First - you are the most courageous woman. I went back while everyone was away and tried to catch up a bit from the beginning. I was flabbergasted by your courage. thank you - I do not see myself as that way at all - I actually feel now like I hide in the background and watch others who seem braver than I most of the time... By you knowing yourself. By your knowing others. By your vunerability. Take that in Dawn. Not everyone has the guts to be vunerable. Ask the cutie. I edit - edit - edit cause I simply can't emotionally hold things that I"ve put out. I feel too vunerable. This is a gift that you're sharing with all of is. It's a huge gift. Don't underestimate that for one minute.again - thanks - you have no clue how many times I hit the edit button and wanted to erase it after posting but that is he true me and the true feelings I have and although I may not be proud of it - it is mine to own...

Dan - boys - men - we are all so hard on them at times. And look at the lovliness in who loves you. He's right. Listen to him. How is it that you don't down him but you down yourself? I wonder if that makes him feel, for just a split second, that he can't fully believe your thoughts/love if you're that hard on you. Don't get me wrong. He knows you're truthful. I mean just for a split second. But look at this way. Look at how you love him Dawn. You deserve the same love. Take it in from hiim. And take it from you today. Not tomorrow. Today. you are so accurate - he told me that he feels like I must think he is a moron if I can't believe him to know something so simple - what else do I doubt then...I had not looked at it like that - only as a wall to protect myself - not that I was taking something from him...and placing doubt in his head and heart about his image and how I view him...the funny thing is...I think big guys are sexy...always have..Grizzly Adams, John Candy, Chris Farley, John Goodman...they exude a charm that makes you love them and not even notice size...you see it but nnot notice it...like people of color...some only see the color of skin...some notice it but not use it as a rulr of their worth...

I'm going to assume from your writing to me on this thread - in code sort of - that you were abused. So have some flippin' compassion for yourself. Have it Dawn. It's totally normal to not love your body for most of us. But abuse puts another wrench in. Don't use the abuse to accept it Dawn. Use it to have some compassion for you! That you didn't singlehandly produce this lack of love in yourself. I read about your husband too. But you are the only one who can change it. Not us. Not Dan. Only you. And it doesn't have to be overnight And it can't be. Be patient and loving with yourself. One day at a time. it's funny isn't it that you can accept your life and it's pieces and yet still be subconciously affected by it at a core level...


As for the freaking out at the picture. Every single person on this thread has done that. I hate to assume. But I'm going to. I'm sure everyone has - it is an awful moment but a good one. I've lost all my weight over years. But last Christmas I thought I looked like I was gaining some again. I did actually what you did. And guess what - 40 pounds this year of my total. So it was a positive tool. It hurt deeply. And scared the sh!t of me at the time. But it was positive. Because I made it so.
i want this to be the case for me as well...my mom just found out she has diabetes...and my dad does too...so if I want a change to be my future...I need to make some changes...
Also, I've found the more and more I've healed emotions and pain the easier this all gets. It does. Not easy. But easier for sure. You take out emotional eating - self sabotage - well it is easier.

And stop the hating of the NOW. If you hear anything I say today - hear that. Stop hating the NOW. This is something that drives me insane. Do not hate the now. Love the now too. Yes, you want different but that doesn't have to come with hating. This now will be part of the journey. Part of the before. Love her Dawn. She doesn't deserve hatred or disgust. She deserves understanding. She has taken the sh!t and ate because of pain probably. And deservess all the compassion you can muster. She knows there is a better place and you are working on it.

And she is sweet. She is sexy. She is pretty. She is Dawn. You are. Don't relegate such adjectives to being thin etc. They are not only for the thin for God sakes. Men know that why don't we? :confused3 Gosh it was a man who told me over and over that I was simply a woman who was born to be bigger. And I am. (Not quite as big though:rotfl: ). And I remember that all the time. I don't have the bones to be small and I refuse to keep beating myself up for what God gave me.

All the best to you,

Lisa
Thanks Lisa - there is a beautiful person inside of me who needs to accept the beauty on the outside today as well...not use the microscope I disect myself with that I would never do to others...
Oh I am still laughing at your eldest son's, Treyner??, love for Erika.:laughing: So cute. So so cute.

Ahemm...I am just saying he is seeing that all women past 23 may not be ready for the nursing home...:lmao:

And Treyner is loving pointing out to everyone that 18 is no big deal unless you have money to waste on gambling, cigarettes and porn...and since he is broke...it is the same as being 17!
:rotfl2:

I would love to send our Christmas card out to you all...pm me your address if you want one...

And Lisa....:hug:
 
Oh God! Yes, must watch Vicky go down in flames tonight! It HAS to be Michelle, right? It just HAS. TO. BE.

I mean, now that Vicky as been home for several weeks, etc. she MUST know how badly she has come across on tv. And she must know that she is HATED on all of the fan sites. Wonder if she will address that tonight? It is live, right?

Yes. It MUST be Michelle. And no, my bet is that Vicky doesn't give a crap what people think of her...so even if she's asked about all her hateful venom, I don't think she'll think she was wrong...:sad2:

all I saw was my hair a friz mess with the rain...and my weight...the whole thing....

I do understand. More than I like to admit to. :hug: It's a hard, bad place to be.



Glad you put the :rotfl2: icon. Cause that's what I did. Ummm nope. No love for running here.

You don't have to LOVE it....you just have to DO it ;)

So have some flippin' compassion for yourself.

Lisa's smart. Listen to her.:goodvibes
 

Yes. It MUST be Michelle. And no, my bet is that Vicky doesn't give a crap what people think of her...so even if she's asked about all her hateful venom, I don't think she'll think she was wrong...:sad2:

Word.


You don't have to LOVE it....you just have to DO it ;)

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WORD. Just do it. Just a little bit. Work up to 30 minutes....you can totally do that.

Oh. And Lyz. Um, I decided that your goal for 2009 is to run a 5k. No smiley here...I am serious. You are going to do it. And I am going to do it with you.
 
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And Lisa....:hug:


:hug: You too Dawn. You too. Don't think I haven't been there with not accepting myself.

it's funny isn't it that you can accept your life and it's pieces and yet still be subconciously affected by it at a core level...

This is the truth. People move on. And you can. But move on or not it's still affecting things whether one wants to or not. For all of us. It affects until you face in head on.

You don't have to LOVE it....you just have to DO it ;)

WORD. Just do it. Just a little bit. Work up to 30 minutes....you can totally do that.

Oh. And Lyz. Um, I decided that your goal for 2009 is to run a 5k. ]


You know you two aren't even tempting me. :lmao: I am so not a runner. And that's not a put down to me. Or is it me documenting my inner strength on the issue. I just won't do things that I don't enjoy (beside responsibilities of course) and I don't enjoy it. I really enjoy intervals and kick boxing etc. I really do. Running - no. I know blashemy.

Biggest Loser time.
 
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At least Vicky completely embarrassed herself! HA!

:rotfl2: :rotfl2: Dang! She was SOOOO close to landing on her butt! :mad:

:rotfl2:



YES! Michelle won and evil Vicky is done and out of my living room.

:woohoo: :woohoo:

My son actually YELLED at me. YELLED. :eek: All I did was CHEER for Ed when Vicky didn't beat him...:confused3 guess I was a *little* over exhuberant? :laughing:

Everyone looked amazing. Just amazing. :thumbsup2

So you ready for NEXT season? Those are some big contestants. Jillian and Bob have their work cut out for them!
 
Dawn, Glad you made it back home safely. And :hug:. Lisa truly said everything I would have said and said it better than I would have. :hug:

I'm contemplating running without my garmin for the 1/2. I need to do a few more runs without it to decide. Today I ran almost 4 miles without it and had my best average pace in weeks (11:45 or so). I think I look at it too much when I run. I just did whatever felt good ( no planned intervals). I ended up running most of it..

My main running goal for 2009 is a sub 30 5k. After the 1/2 in January, I will be focusing on how to make that happen.

I think we should contemplate doing the marathon weekend 5K in 2010. For those of us crazy enough to attempt the Goofy, doing the 5K too would make it the Dopey for us (not that you get an extra medal for doing all three. there should be another extra medal though).

I forgot BL was on. :sad2: Sounds like it ended well though.

Have a good night ladies...

Amy
 
I think we should contemplate doing the marathon weekend 5K in 2010. For those of us crazy enough to attempt the Goofy, doing the 5K too would make it the Dopey for us (not that you get an extra medal for doing all three. there should be another extra medal though).

Amy

I am in, if we all do the 5k in 2010. Darn. Kool-aid, again!
 
I am working from home all day today, waiting for the new TV to arrive...

Ohhh, what size is the new tv?

Right before you came...the kids were taking pics on the Boardwalk...and truthfully...I had a minor meltdown...not on them...or about them...just about me...[/COLOR]

Whew Dawn. You did meltdown. I usually have at least one "come to Jesus" moment on vacation. You imagine so much and then reality is I'm still the person on vacation who can't say no to a chocolate bismark at home. Why won't that damn girl leave me alone?

I will start fizzing in the airport tomorrow. When my efforts to be a slim woman of the world come crashing down. But I'm still going.

I understand everything you said. Too bad it happened right then.


Glad you put the :rotfl2: icon. Cause that's what I did. Ummm nope.

Lisa - you mean you don't want to spend hours and hours training and running to run?

WORD. Just do it. Just a little bit. Work up to 30 minutes....you can totally do that.

Oh. And Lyz. Um, I decided that your goal for 2009 is to run a 5k. No smiley here...I am serious. You are going to do it. And I am going to do it with you.

Ya freakshow. Let me lose the 40lbs I need to first. Oh and I like my big toe nails. They are currently red. (but I'm not saying no)

And speaking of losing, I am consistantly losing. Not big amounts, but losing none the less!!!

And Heba! OMG. She's a super hottie under all that fat.

I am tired. We are packed. Head out at 5:30 in da morning. I'll be thinking of you all. And hopefully can post here and there. Will definately be reading.
 
Hey Cutie,

Have a wonderful time. I am so happy for you. It honestly gives me great joy and smiles to think of you going....

It's brought me daydreaming smiles all week.

Have a wonderful time and can't wait to hear all about it,

Lisa
 





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