I'm curious - percentage of students with IEP/504/etc

[DizBelle]

I'm curious. In your experience, in the average classroom, what percentage of students have an IEP/504/something else that requires the teacher to do something (legally binding) special for the student?

 

[kirstenb1]

I'm thinking this is a question that only educators can answer. I know my younger dd has an IEP, but have no idea who else in the classroom does.

 

[HelenePA]

my dd10 is in a lifeskills class so 100% of her class has an IEP.. I know one student in my dd9's class has one only because his mom told me about it... I wouldn't have know if he did any other way.

 

[dngnb8]

Its not like this is posted in the class.... That being said, why are you asking

 

[jackilvsmath]

In the state of Illinois it is now law (at least at the middle school and high school level) that a non-special education co-taught class (like a life skills or a pull out type class) may have no more than 30% of its population be special education. This was a problem for our building last year because, for example, my one co-taught class had about 20 students in it. 10 had IEP's, but 6 out of the 10 did not have a defecit in math or only had an IEP for speech and languge. and those students just ended up in the class because of scheduling. However, because of the law, we had to move several kids out to make our 30%.

 

[Prose]

Keep in mind that there are many different kinds of IEPs for all different reasons...not only for kids with delays or learning disabilities who need accommodations. In some districts/states I know that those in High Ability classes also have IEPs. It simply stands for Individualized Education Plan, so it covers way more than just LD students. Also, it can cover something as simple as needing to sit in the front row due to a hearing or sight issue, all the way to requiring an aide in the classroom.

 

[DizBelle]

Its not like this is posted in the class.... That being said, why are you asking

Like I said, just curious.

 

[MM27]

My school has 5 of each grade and two of those classes are designated as inclusion classes. The last time I had the inclusion class, I had 6 students out of 24 that were classified, so 25% of the class had an IEP. In my district, the inclusion classes get a second teacher that is certified in special ed. It was nice because that same year my class was also very heavy in students that were Title I and the special ed teacher worked with them as well when needed.

We did a lot of co-teaching that year and it worked out great for all of the kids. However, you really need to have two teachers that work great together. I've seen some in my school where the classroom teacher has the attitude of 'these are my kids, those are yours' and that really is not the case. Also, some of the regular ed teachers almost resent having someone in "their" classroom and it does have an effect on the relationship and on the kids.

 

[Wishing on a star]

 

[Malibustyle23]

DS started second grade today and there are 3 students in his class with an IEP out of 18 in the total. Last year there were also 3 students that had the iep but the class size varied from 16-19 throughout the year.

 

[JVL1018]

Usually my son had about 3 or 4 out of his class of 23.
He was one of them in 1st and 2nd grade and half of 3rd because he had speech once a week and apparently having an IEP goes along with that. I'm really not sure why it was necessary, he didn't need any special consideration in class, but that's how it works.

 

[Magpie]

Gifted comes under the special education funding umbrella here, so 100 percent of the students in my children's congregated gifted classes have IEPs.

However, children with "dual exceptionalities" are a little rarer (that's kids who've been found to be both gifted and learning disabled). My son is one of those, and he's of the opinion that maybe 2 or 3 kids in each class have this designation. (Just counting off, there's a Gifted/ADD kid, and a Gifted/Autistic kid, and of course my kid...)

I have no idea what the overall percentage of IEP'd kids might be.

 

[J3nn78]

I teach 2nd grade and previously 3rd for 10 years. I have had anywhere from 20-30% of my classes with either IEPs or 504s. THat does not include the additional students who are unclassified but really low level students. Some years have been quite challenging trying to meet everyones needs

 

[Mickey'snewestfan]

Right now our school has about 14% students with IEPs. That number will creep up over the course of the school year as new students are identified.

 

[Liberty Belle]

Hard to say. It depends on the school, etc.

I was a para in a school with a pretty high percentage of students with IEPs (and a few 504s) and I'd guess it would average out to less than 1 student per class (however, usually, in that school, anyway, one teacher would teach the inclusion class in each grade, so she'd have more than average).

 

[Liberty Belle]

DS started second grade today and there are 3 students in his class with an IEP out of 18 in the total. Last year there were also 3 students that had the iep but the class size varied from 16-19 throughout the year.

How did you know?

 

[HelenePA]

How did you know?

I'd like to know as well... its against a lot of laws for teachers to tell you isn't it?

 

[Liberty Belle]

I'd like to know as well... its against a lot of laws for teachers to tell you isn't it?

I'm almost positive it's illegal to tell people. And, if a child goes out for resource room or something and you see it, you can assume he has an IEP, but that's not always the case, AND there are students with IEPs that never leave the classroom. So I really don't know how anyone, besides school staff, would know.

 

[daughtersrus]

How did you know?

I was thinking the exact same thing. They can't even put a dot or note on the outside of a students file as an indicator that the student has an IEP.

 

[daughtersrus]

Gifted comes under the special education funding umbrella here, so 100 percent of the students in my children's congregated gifted classes have IEPs.

However, children with "dual exceptionalities" are a little rarer (that's kids who've been found to be both gifted and learning disabled). My son is one of those, and he's of the opinion that maybe 2 or 3 kids in each class have this designation. (Just counting off, there's a Gifted/ADD kid, and a Gifted/Autistic kid, and of course my kid...)

I have no idea what the overall percentage of IEP'd kids might be.

I see that you're in Canada so that may be the difference but in the US, students in gifted classes would not automatically have an IEP.