If you didnt work

[Princess on the Run]

Actually what gets me is when SAHM's say " I work 24/7 cleaning the house, cooking, running errands etc"-- I am sure they do BUT moms that work outside the homes do all that too- we just do it in the evening or on weekends but we do all the same things PLUS work outside the home so the 24/7 thing to me is BS.

You mean the pixies aren't going to come do my laundry, grocery shopping, cooking and cleaning??? What!?!?!???

 

[surfgirl]

I do those things too. Working mothers kids can be happy too . And why is it that the woman has to stay home?

why do you need a new post for each sentence?

 

[surfgirl]

Fine follow the dream then . You just don't need a 100000 degree to stay home.

who said I have a $100k degree? My advanced degree paid itself off in less than 3 years. Pretty good ROI. Plus I had all the years after that and a higher pension to boot. Looking back... good decision.

 

[surfgirl]

I agree. I can't imagine cleaning all that time. And the whole "volunteering" thing". I don't know a single stat at home mother who volunteers personally. However, I teach CCD on Sundays in my daughter's class." I, personally, cannot understand why anyone would stay home who heir kids are in school all day. I have Dix kids and there is not enough cleaning to do all day even with that amount!

what are Dix kids?

I know lots of stat at home moms who do lots of volunteering. But see, since you aren't in the classroom on a regular basis, you don't see the parents in there who are: helping with walking club, in the library, the art room, lunch supervision, running the fundraisers, the PTA, reading club, word of the week, etc. The stat at home moms are picking up a greater role in our school as funding becomes cut and there are less aides to help.

But... if you don't see it, I guess it doesn't happen. Go to the school and check the sign in list. You'll be surprised at the quantity of volunteers on a daily basis.

 

[surfgirl]

Volunteering == watching trashy TV shows and Facebooking?

Seems like you are claiming that if you work outside the home you aren't online during the day? Sure doesn't seem that way to me from the quantity of posters who claim they work during the day and are online.

 

[Couchy]

I would miss not working. I like earning a paycheck. I teach and coach so I do get all weekends ( not during coaching season) and holidays off. I also get about 7 weeks off in the summer before coaching starts. I find myself going into the school to work on lessons and whatnot even in the summer. I enjoy my time off but I also enjoy working

 

[surfgirl]

Actually what gets me is when SAHM's say " I work 24/7 cleaning the house, cooking, running errands etc"-- I am sure they do BUT moms that work outside the homes do all that too- we just do it in the evening or on weekends but we do all the same things PLUS work outside the home so the 24/7 thing to me is ********. When someone chooses to be totally dependant on someone elses paycheck and then ends up getting divorced it never ends well for that mom-I just would never leave myself in that potential position and I will always encourage my child not to either.

You want to stereotype?

Fine, how come all the favors I do for friends that are, "can you pick up Susie from the bus stop?" are working parents? How come they are the ones calling me for carpooling, but never calling me to drive my kid?

I'm happy to help, but after a while, it certainly feels one-sided. I see much more 'give and take' from my stat at home friends rather than 'take and take' from working moms.



Who is starting the wars?

 

[Robbi]

I agree. I can't imagine cleaning all that time. And the whole "volunteering" thing". I don't know a single stat at home mother who volunteers personally. However, I teach CCD on Sundays in my daughter's class." I, personally, cannot understand why anyone would stay home who heir kids are in school all day. I have Dix kids and there is not enough cleaning to do all day even with that amount!

I volunteered:
20 years at my kid's schools just helping out teachers- 2-3 days a week
Also participated in fund raising for both the school and the other activities listed below
Bagged groceries at the food bank
Taught Safety Town and Child sexual abuse prevention
Read to kids and handed out books for RIF
Taught religion classes
Worked in a women's shelter
Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

 

[mommasita]

I alaaaawys thought the answer would be no but I've been not wrking due to healh reasons the last 5 or 6 years and I can say I really AM going nut!

4 for me really soon.. It is getting old, and I am going antsy..

Praying that I get the go ahead soon..

I find it MORE than sad that this has to go to Mommy wars. Pathetic actually. Let us women support each other, rather than pick each other apart....

Hey to you low-key

 

[AustinTink]

1800 sq.ft. ranch style house, with front yard, driveway, back yard, solarium, and pool.

No wonder you get the cleaning done so fast. I would love to downsize, I'm sick of cleaning this monster of a house.

 

[furb & dez]

No wonder you get the cleaning done so fast. I would love to downsize, I'm sick of cleaning this monster of a house.

It's just the two of us and the cats... there's no point in having a bigger house, unless one is concerned with showing off for the Joneses. LOL

Seems like you are claiming that if you work outside the home you aren't online during the day? Sure doesn't seem that way to me from the quantity of posters who claim they work during the day and are online.

Perhaps if you had bothered to include in your quote the two smileys that I posted that clearly indicated that I was posting in a tongue-in-cheek manner, it would make more sense.

Naw, then you couldn't willfully miss the point entirely, right?

 

[Planogirl]

I could find plenty to do if I didn't have a traditional job. There are several places I'd love to volunteer at and I could also spend most of my time traveling.

I'm not on-line whenever I'm at work. My company doesn't allow it.

 

[Princess on the Run]

I could find plenty to do if I didn't have a traditional job. There are several places I'd love to volunteer at and I could also spend most of my time traveling.

I completely thought you said you were going to be time traveling and had to read it like 3 times to realize you just meant regular travel. LOL!!! So much for my big fancy degree.

 

[surfgirl]

Perhaps if you had bothered to include in your quote the two smileys that I posted that clearly indicated that I was posting in a tongue-in-cheek manner, it would make more sense.

Naw, then you couldn't willfully miss the point entirely, right?

Didn't realize that the two smileys made it t-i-c. so sorry if I'm not up on online conventions. I'm too busy laying on the couch eating bonbons.


: )

seriously? didn't realize it. That's the problem online - what you see as t-i-c, others don't. I"m not up on smiley etiquette.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

You want to stereotype?

Fine, how come all the favors I do for friends that are, "can you pick up Susie from the bus stop?" are working parents? How come they are the ones calling me for carpooling, but never calling me to drive my kid?

I'm happy to help, but after a while, it certainly feels one-sided. I see much more 'give and take' from my stat at home friends rather than 'take and take' from working moms.



Who is starting the wars?

Here's the thing. I don't believe anyone thinks SAHM's are lazy. But, the reality is that many people are simply not in a financial position to be able to do that. And these same people who work full time have just as many responsibilities with their children as SAHM's do, but they have 40 fewer hours to make it happen. That may mean pawning some off on those who are available, but it is a TREMENDOUS task to try to keep it all together AND work a full time job. MUCH harder than just being a SAHM. We went from my wife working full-time, to now working part-time at the kids' school, and she's off when they're off - including snow days, Summers, Spring Break, and X-mas. I wish she could quit completely, and we're obviously envy families that can make it happen. Her days are still very, very full despite the reduction in work. And she's even taken some of the burden off ME in the process. But even at that, to say that her job as a mom is as "hard" today as it was when she worked full-time would be a lie. That's not a knock on her, nor on those who stay home full time. Your job isn't easy - far from it - but it is easiER in comparsion. If it wasn't, why on Earth would anyone do it?

 

[mhsjax]

All I can say is wow. Anything else would probably get me banned form the Dis.

 

[mhsjax]

Here's the thing. I don't believe anyone thinks SAHM's are lazy. But, the reality is that many people are simply not in a financial position to be able to do that. And these same people who work full time have just as many responsibilities with their children as SAHM's do, but they have 40 fewer hours to make it happen. That may mean pawning some off on those who are available, but it is a TREMENDOUS task to try to keep it all together AND work a full time job. MUCH harder than just being a SAHM. We went from my wife working full-time, to now working part-time at the kids' school, and she's off when they're off - including snow days, Summers, Spring Break, and X-mas. I wish she could quit completely, and we're obviously envy families that can make it happen. Her days are still very, very full despite the reduction in work. And she's even taken some of the burden off ME in the process. But even at that, to say that her job as a mom is as "hard" today as it was when she worked full-time would be a lie. That's not a knock on her, nor on those who stay home full time. Your job isn't easy - far from it - but it is easiER in comparsion. If it wasn't, why on Earth would anyone do it?

Are you saying that if it was harder than working outside the home women wouldn't want to do it? Or am I totally misunderstanding your post?

 

[Emteach]

Reading through the response in here I almost forgot what the OP was lol
I am a supply teachers and it varies from week to week how busy I am. Yes, it is nice being able to relax and get things done but it gets really old, really fast! Making money is definately a benefit of working but also getting out of the house.
Wish I was working more actually since a day or two of work a week isnt really cutting it!

 

[Gumbo4x4]

Are you saying that if it was harder than working outside the home women wouldn't want to do it? Or am I totally misunderstanding your post?

I'm saying if being a SAHM was more difficult, or even AS difficult as being a working mom, it would be a lot less popular.

That's not to say it would go extinct. Even if it WERE at least as difficult, some folks would still do so because they felt it benefitted them or their child(ren) in some way.

Bottom line, I am not saying working outside the home (by itself) is more difficult than being a SAHM. I'm saying that the task of being a mom AND working outside the home is more difficult than being a SAHM.

 

[mhsjax]

I'm saying if being a SAHM was more difficult, or even AS difficult as being a working mom, it would be a lot less popular.

That's not to say it would go extinct. Even if it WERE at least as difficult, some folks would still do so because they felt it benefitted them or their child(ren) in some way.

Bottom line, I am not saying working outside the home (by itself) is more difficult than being a SAHM. I'm saying that the task of being a mom AND working outside the home is more difficult than being a SAHM.

I really have no response for that line of thinking.