I want a goldendoodle or a labradoodle....

[clutter]

Many mixed breed breeders sell first generation puppies. In your case, lab x poodle. These breeders also spend a lot of money to ensure that their dogs are healthy, and also of a good temperment. For many of the reasons others have stated (primarily my allergies), I bought a cockapoo 2+ years ago from a breeder that was incredibly reputable (find some yahoo discussion groups, you'll hear.) My biggest concern was tempermant. I told the breeder what I was looking for and what I had a history with. Our pup has turned onto the sweetest possible personality. I get repeated compliments from people over and over and over. (Although she was way hyper for the first two years.)

Here's the kicker..... the dog's the one that we think has allergies!!!

 

[alabamaalan]

My wife is a guide dog user so we look at dogs more for their working ability than anything else.

She is currently using her second Australian Shephard and we love the breed. It broke our hearts when they were assimilated by the AKC because someone will start breeding for looks instead of intelligence or working ability.

However, in recent years she has had asthma pretty bad and is on the waiting list for another school to receive either a standard poodle or a labradoodle. This particular school uses both types in a small number. Certainly, they are an uncommon guide dog, but it has been used successfully.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Originally posted by TheOtherVillainess
I don't see how anybody could sell themselves as a 'breeder' of these 'goldendoodles' and 'labradoodles'. They aren't even real breeds recognized by the AKC.

And $1,000 is way too much to pay for a made up breed somebody just happened to thow together in their spare time. I say save your money and buy a REAL breed...like a labrador,poodle or spaniel of some sort.


TOV

Exactly what I was going to say! They are "mutt puppies" and should be sold as such. Now please explain why you want one. You can't guarantee getting a specific trait from either breed. You might end up with the worst traits of both. With mutts, there is no limit to the gene pool, and no predictability.

 

[Jennifer S]

diane

If you read the previous post you would see why many people want one. Have you ever seen one or interacted with one? They truly are great dogs - esp for people with asthma and allergies.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Alan, most breeders do not try to breed beauty over brains. Most pride themselves in producing dogs that can be everything the breed was meant to be. Our particular breed (Airedale) is a versatile hunter, companion and kids dog. They are even used as police dogs in some countries. I have sold several who are acting as guide dogs for wheelchair bound folks. I do not know of a guide dog for the blind that's an Airedale though. My point is that when we try to breed true to the breed, we want ALL traits true, not just looks.

 

[KarenC]

Originally posted by clutter
Here's the kicker..... the dog's the one that we think has allergies!!!

Our older poodle has allergies!

 

[dianeschlicht]

Originally posted by Jennifer S
diane

If you read the previous post you would see why many people want one. Have you ever seen one or interacted with one? They truly are great dogs - esp for people with asthma and allergies.

But there is no way to predict which coat type they will get. Poodles are non-sheding and generally not a problem for allergy sufferers. Goldens and labs are just the opposite. No way to insure which you get.

 

[EsmeraldaX]

Originally posted by clutter
Here's the kicker..... the dog's the one that we think has allergies!!!

My dog actually has allergies too. He is allergic to pollen, and some types of grass. He has to take medication for it. Otherwise he gets irritated skin and ears.

 

[Mom-to-3]

We are a foster family for a Golden Retriever rescue group and have taken in and cared for 9 dogs in the past 2 years.

If you breed a Golden with anything other than a Golden, you get a mixed breed. You can call it anything you want and you can hope it will have the best of both parents' traits...

www.petfinder.com has a great search engine to help people search for animals in their area and beyond. It can even search for rabbits, goats, lizards, horses...

Golden mixes are very, very common. I find it hard to believe something couldn't be found.

Our group charges an adoption fee of $250 which includes spay/neuter, shots, and heartworm test.

 

[toniC]

I just wanted to let everyone know that, yes I did spend $1000.00 for a goldendoodle, but it was the best investment I have ever made. Mia is the most wonderful dog ever, she is exactly what our family need it. She is gentle, extremely smart, was fully housebroken within a few months and a wonderful companion to our 2 girls.

I wish everyone would stop knocking doodles because of the high cost for what they call a "mutt". I just don't care what she is called, to me she is the most wonderful , allergy friendly, non-shedding dog.

 

[KristiKelly]

EsmereldaX, off topic, but www.spoiledrottendoggies.com has Halloween costumes that I think Monty Dog would love.

 

[alabamaalan]

Diane, I did post that hastily and I'm sure that you know I meant no offense. Nevertheless, if I recall, the primary Aussie group did not want AKC recognition so a "new" much smaller group was created by the AKC and it asked for recognition.

The fear was that breeders would be more concerned with making the markings balance on each side rather than breeding for the herding ability or health.

I realize that most breeders/showers have an investment in time, money and emotion, but just like puppy mill breeders..some do not have the breed's best interest in mind.

As for guide dogs, the main breeds are Labs, German Shepards, and Goldens with Labs being the most common.

Different schools do use other breeds in smaller amounts such as the Aussie, Border Collie, Boxer, Smooth Coat Collie, Vizula, Red Dobie, and Poodle but I have not heard of an Airdale being used. Of course, I'm not much in the loop of most schools so who knows?

 

[Mom2Ashli]

Pound Puppies all the way. I recused a Greyhound 8 years ago that just passed on. Than a week ago I drove 2 hours to another county to rescue a Lab/Hound mix that was attached by a wild boar. She needs alot of love to get over this. I just can't see paying allot of money when I can rescue one for allot less. And I have have wonderful luck with my pound animals. Matter of fact I went to rescue a kitten over a year ago and came home with a 10 year old cat.

Soft hearted, I guess.

 

[phillybeth]

Originally posted by KristiKelly
I have seen some starting to pop up for rehome. (I remember after we bought our Dal, 101 Dalmatians resurfaced & Dal's were filling the shelters, due to the popularity - I see the same happening with these dogs.

Yup, just wait a year or two and the shelters will be full of those Goldendoodles and Labdoodles. Except the shelter will call them a mixed breed and most will die.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Originally posted by toniC
I just wanted to let everyone know that, yes I did spend $1000.00 for a goldendoodle, but it was the best investment I have ever made. Mia is the most wonderful dog ever, she is exactly what our family need it. She is gentle, extremely smart, was fully housebroken within a few months and a wonderful companion to our 2 girls.

I wish everyone would stop knocking doodles because of the high cost for what they call a "mutt". I just don't care what she is called, to me she is the most wonderful , allergy friendly, non-shedding dog.

And that is wonderful that you were lucky to get the non-shedding trait you wanted. As for being "fully housebroken within a few months", I find that extremely long. Most puppies will housebreak in a couple of days or weeks.

 

[phillybeth]

Originally posted by dianeschlicht
And that is wonderful that you were lucky to get the non-shedding trait you wanted. As for being "fully housebroken within a few months", I find that extremely long. Most puppies will housebreak in a couple of days or weeks.

You haven't had a terrier, have you? Terriers are notorious for being difficult to housebreak. Not only are they small, which means they mature slower, they can be incredibly stubborn and independant-minded. It's a rare terrier who is completely reliable before 8-9 months of age.

 

[KristiKelly]

Phillybeth, let's just hope that if someone is willing to put in the time to look for one & willing to pay the money, that they wouldn't just drop it off at a shelter one day.
I hope one day you all have a chance to meet a Doodle in person & get a big ol' Doodle kiss

Priceless!!! Have a Doodly day!!!

 

[TheOtherVillainess]

I've also heard, and I"m not sure if it's true, that the AKC considers any lab/poodle/whatever bred to a dog not of its own breed forever 'tainted' and any pups bred afterward (even to another dog of the same breed as the mother)will not be eligible for AKC papers.

Not that AKC papers mean a lot, I think. I can look in the "Pets for Sale" section of my newspaper and see 100 people selling "AKC registered' dogs.

TOV

 

[Esmerelda]

WoW!...thanks for all the responses folks!!

To start off with...I have done thorough research on this type of dog. I'm a professional, well educated female and I would never purchase anything (car/house/pet) until I have done my homework. There were various reasons I liked this dog and its been around for quite a while actually.

Info: The Labradoodle is a cross between a Labrador Retriever and a Poodle. In the late 1970's the Guide Dog Association of Australia set out to produce a non-shedding dog suitable for service training. Mr. Wally Cochran was the driving force behind this program, and the goal was to produce a non-shedding guide dog by using a Labrador Retriever and a Standard Poodle.

The result of this cross produced intelligent, easily trainable puppies that were the beginning of the Labradoodle as we now know it. Crossing these two breeds also gave the Labradoodle a hybrid vigor and a variety of coat types:

The Wooly Coat: Somewhat poodle like which requires regular grooming is non-shedding and allergy and asthma friendly.

The Fleece Coat: The ultimate coat that is easily maintained, non-shedding, allergy and asthma friendly and somewhat like that of an Angora Goat.

The Hair Coat: Anything from flat and straight to curls down the back and possibly wavy and minimally to profusely shedding, that is less likely to be allergy and asthma friendly.

The Labradoodle is not a recognized breed as yet, however, many breeders are working towards developing a breed standard for the future recognition of the Labradoodle.

I have horrible allergies to cats and some (few) dogs...but my oldest son has horrible asthma so I have to be real careful of what I pick. I may not be able to go to the pound and just bring home any type of dog due to the forementioned even though I personally have no problem with doing it. Also, I do not want a small dog...to me a dog has to be 50lbs or more or its just not my kind of dog. I don't want anything small enough to jump on my couch...LOL Seriously, I do not care for smaller/lap type dogs.

I'm just trying to figure out how folks can charge so much for these puppies...they aren't even registered yet even though they are working on it. I thought maybe someone here might have some insight on them. I have seen them in person and they are wonderful dogs for the record. They are loyal, loving dogs and are totally great with kids!

Esmerelda

 

[phillybeth]

Originally posted by KristiKelly
Phillybeth, let's just hope that if someone is willing to put in the time to look for one & willing to pay the money, that they wouldn't just drop it off at a shelter one day.
I hope one day you all have a chance to meet a Doodle in person & get a big ol' Doodle kiss

Priceless!!! Have a Doodly day!!!

Once the non-ethical breeders learn of the popularity of the breed and the value of the pups, you can be darn sure that the market, and soon the shelters, will be flooded with doodles.
I know the original intent of the 'breed', and it does have a long history in Australia. However, there the 'breed' has been around since the late 70's, and a lot of time and research went into the breedings. Not to mention that Australia has much tighter restrictions than most of the US on dog breeding.

TOV, that is not true. One non-breed mating does NOT ruin a female dog, and the AKC couldn't give a good darn about it. However, I would seriously look at the ethics of a breeder that would allow it to happen.