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I'm thinking of putting all my daily expenses on this credit card. Maybe around $1300 a month. That is a conservative estimate. I usually pay my insurance in full every 6 months.
I will pay off the balance every month.
Southwest service our Airport.
I usually fly out of Grand Rapids, MI. However we use Midway and Ohare quite a bit. On occasion we'll use Detroit.
I like flying Southwest but I go for the least expensive flights. I will not use Spirit.
No hotel chain preference
I do have some points with Southwest and Delta
We mostly go to Disney and Destin. Sometimes we fly into New Orleans three hours away.
We have always stayed on property when going to Disney.
I plan on taking a four day Disney trip the first week of November 2018 or third week of January 2019. We are definitely going to London July or August of 2019.
My three children will accompany me on these trips.
Edited to add: I have a $700 in medical bills that I can charge. I have the cash for this. I'm also repairing driveway for $950. I can charge this. I have the cash for that also.
You've already gotten good advice ,and I'm a rewards newbie compared to the awesome people here, but my travel plans for the next 18 months are so close to yours. We are thinking New Orleans, Disney and Ireland/ England. Since I just started this hobby a year ago, we don't have a huge stash of points but I TRY to use them very efficiently. For example, I know we won't be able to cover all travel expenses with rewards for all of our trips. We love Airbnb for lodging in Europe and save so much money over using points . That frees up our points for flights which we have found much greater value in. I have to remember to come back here before I purchase anything though because the folks here are SO creative with their advice!
 
Since Amex Concierge got us the reservation for Sunday we will check out Founding Farmers on Saturday. Thank you for the suggestion!

I will second Founding Farmers! Great food and good atmosphere (can be loud because of the industrial farmhouse theme but didn’t bother us). Make a reservation! They get busy real fast and I won’t go unless I have a ressie lol.
 
Please help me decide which credit card to get to earn the best points. I read through many post and I'm confused. I don't know what CSR, CIP, MSR...... means. I just started thinking about using credit cards for points. What about Southwest? How about Discover? I want to use points for traveling. Thanks.
My travel party are three children 16, 15, and 8 and myself
We want to travel to London, Jamaica but mostly Florida
No spouse signing up for cards
I have not applied for any cards within the last 24 months.
How does getting a card and canceling it affect your credit? My credit is very good to excellent.
Several airlines fly out of our airport.
Thanks

I'm thinking of putting all my daily expenses on this credit card. Maybe around $1300 a month. That is a conservative estimate. I usually pay my insurance in full every 6 months.
I will pay off the balance every month.
Southwest service our Airport.
I usually fly out of Grand Rapids, MI. However we use Midway and Ohare quite a bit. On occasion we'll use Detroit.
I like flying Southwest but I go for the least expensive flights. I will not use Spirit.
No hotel chain preference
I do have some points with Southwest and Delta
We mostly go to Disney and Destin. Sometimes we fly into New Orleans three hours away.
We have always stayed on property when going to Disney.
I plan on taking a four day Disney trip the first week of November 2018 or third week of January 2019. We are definitely going to London July or August of 2019.
My three children will accompany me on these trips.
Edited to add: I have a $700 in medical bills that I can charge. I have the cash for this. I'm also repairing driveway for $950. I can charge this. I have the cash for that also.


You will want to start with the Chase cards since Chase has heir 5/24 rule. They have a number of cards that you cannot get if you have had more than 5 new credit card accounts from any issuer in the past 24 months.

If you are able to make use of SW flights then there is simply no better travel deal out there than earning a SW companion pass. This is coming from someone who has been playing this game for several years but doesn't fly SW ever. We are in it for first class international flights with lie flats seats. Fortunately, we have a number of experienced people who know all about the how and when to earn your SW companion pass to make the most of it.

Discover is a cash back card. In my experience I get far less value on a cash back card than I do with one that earns points and miles. 100,000 points on a cash back card will get me a $1,000 statement credit. It can't buy me the $7,000 flight to Paris in first class. I have been able to get that $7,000 flight with 50,000 Chase Ultimate Rewards points transferred to United and booked a saver award flight. Don't get me wrong, I firmly believe in diversifying the miles and points portfolio but not at the expense of a 5/24 slot or any other slot that will get me a return that is greater than .01 cents per point. I only play around with cash back cards when I have plenty of variable points and miles to cover upcoming plans and find a specific need for one and the timing works out. I picked up the Bank of America travel premier card last September to get myself a $500 discount at Victoria & Albert's. I just picked up a Wells Fargo Propel card to fund some bank bonuses so I can do some extra shopping at Tokyo Disney Sea this June. Before that, the last time I picked up any cash back cards was in 2015 to get $3,000 in Disney cruise excursions for free.

Cash back cards are few and far in between for us. We also don't stay under 5/24 and therefore don't churn any of the Chase cards. There are many on this board who do work to get under 5/24 to churn Chase cards. We blow through too many points and miles each year to make that feasible so our Chase cards are keeper cards. That said, we do apply for and cancel 5 - 8 cards every year. When I started this hobby in 2012 my score ranged from 690 - low 700's. It is now consistently over 800. Your score takes a small hit with a new application but the new credit line lowers your overall utilization ratio which increases your score. Cancelling newer cards won't affect your score much, cancelling an old card will.

Start with a plan of where you want to go. Plan two years out at least. Do a mock booking of where you want to go so you can see how many airline and hotel miles it will take and on which airline. Then take at least a year to get those miles and points in place so that they are where they need to be about a year before you travel. Hope that helps @karmomof3

@karmomof3 - I am quoting myself above just in case you missed the response to your first couple of posts. I changed them to the same color so you know what response goes to what post. Helps me keep it straight in my head too. I know this thread moves fast. You got tons of people who here are amazingly knowledgeable on Southwest Companion pass and booking on property Disney stays with UR points. That is not my area of experience. So, I'm going to focus on helping you with guidance on International destinations which is more my speed. I did a quick search to see who flies out of GRR to LHR and it is mostly AA with connections in ORD. There was a smattering of Delta and there are some United flights as well. Sine you mention you like to go for the cheapest flights and won't use Spirit, are in 1 player mode for the credit cards applications and have 4 people traveling, I am going to make the assumption that your goal is to get yourself and the kiddos to London with the fewest points possible and the least out of pocket possible.

I am going to suggest that you completely avoid using British Airways as a transfer partner for UR points. The program is distance based and the taxes and fees for flying to or connecting in London are simply outrageous. BA is only worth it for easy first class awards at nearly the price of an economy ticket in taxes and a bunch of points. I think you could actually do well by utilizing United as your airline for London. United is a 1:1 transfer partner for Chase Ultimate rewards. I chose some random dates (July 10 with July 17 return) and saw that you could get 4 people on a RT saver economy flight from GRR-LHR for a total of 240,000 United miles and $806.44 in taxes. If you have the CSR you could use your annual $300 per year travel credit to bring that $806 down to $506. The same exact flights cost $4,490 total. If you chose to pay for them with UR points in your CSR account you would need 299,334 UR points since they are worth .015. You would not be paying out of pocket and you'd earn UA frequent flier miles. The difference in UR points cost is 59,334 which has the value of $890. Given the exact same scenario, this is where I'd pay the entire thing through the UR portal with UR points and earn the butt in seat miles. Sometimes though, you will find more value in transferring points from UR to UA. I'd be sure to always make a comparison before leaping one way or the other. Those same dates had other airlines available for similar pricing. So this gives you the general idea that depending on when you travel to London and when you choose to book your travel you are going to want to plan to have about 300,000 Ultimate rewards points to use. FYI Delta would require 320,000 Sky Pesos, $800~ and had 2 connections as opposed to 1 with UA. You could use Korean as a partner t book Delta but you'd still be stuck with the 2 connections sine that is what would be available to a partner airline.

In your shoes, my plan A would be to earn all the UR points I can and pay for travel through the UR portal. Plan B would be transferring UR to UA to book flights and leverage the CSR to mitigate the taxes and fees. Plan B would involve also picking up the United card at some point, just not before you have all of the UR earning cards. The reason would be to have the ability to see awards only available to card holders and also to be able to get an additional 25% bonus when using the United Mileage X app although I would not use that card for the purchases. I'd also join the United Mileage Plus dining rewards network to pick up extra points. In addition, I would use the Chase UR shopping portal. As for the UR earning cards, I would suggest you get the ones with the highest bonus offers and I'd suggest you double dip the CSR and CSP first. I'd keep the CSR and at a year PC the CSP to a Freedom. Also, get the CIP for the bonus and then PC to the CIC as this one will be a very strong earning card. This is just for your London plans. It seems like you also need to work in 2 applications at the right time for the SW CP.

Hotels in London. Personally, I love my Club Carlson card which gives me 40,000 anniversary points per year just for having the card. However, you may want to look into Marriott air/hotel packages which would give you a 7 night stay depending on the category of the property and give you airline miles for the package. SPG is also an option to beef up the Marriott points for this or utilize their nights and flights. Lots of ways to accomplish this but for now I will say to focus on your UR cards. Hope this helps :flower3:
 
Check out Founding Farmers. That was another one we really liked. Its not too far from the Foggy Bottom metro stop.

Edit: Read the rest of your post... HAHA Never mind. :rotfl2:
I will second Founding Farmers! Great food and good atmosphere (can be loud because of the industrial farmhouse theme but didn’t bother us). Make a reservation! They get busy real fast and I won’t go unless I have a ressie lol.

Thank you! I got reservations for dinner there on Saturday. 100 points will be earned with Open Table! :cool1:
 

Discover is a cash back card. In my experience I get far less value on a cash back card than I do with one that earns points and miles. 100,000 points on a cash back card will get me a $1,000 statement credit. It can't buy me the $7,000 flight to Paris in first class. I have been able to get that $7,000 flight with 50,000 Chase Ultimate Rewards points transferred to United and booked a saver award flight. Don't get me wrong, I firmly believe in diversifying the miles and points portfolio but not at the expense of a 5/24 slot or any other slot that will get me a return that is greater than .01 cents per point. I only play around with cash back cards when I have plenty of variable points and miles to cover upcoming plans and find a specific need for one and the timing works out. I picked up the Bank of America travel premier card last September to get myself a $500 discount at Victoria & Albert's. I just picked up a Wells Fargo Propel card to fund some bank bonuses so I can do some extra shopping at Tokyo Disney Sea this June. Before that, the last time I picked up any cash back cards was in 2015 to get $3,000 in Disney cruise excursions for free.
The Discover Card can be a great asset the first year you have it because Discover doubles your cash back that first year, after that the max you get is 5%. We are planning a cruise for 2019. AA miles for flights, SPG & Hyatt points for hotels, and UR points to book excursions. We need cash &/or Disney gift cards for the cruise itself. First quarter my new Discover has earned me $250 cash back, plus I used it to buy Disney GCs at Sam’s and BJs for a discount.

Another option for Disney is SPG points. Dolphin & Swan are the only non Disney owned hotels on Disney property (located next to the Boardwalk and Beach/Yacht club). You can accumulate SPG or Marriott points (which convert to SPG points) and use them to book. If you book 4 night, 5th night is free, even on points. We love the Dolphin and the location can’t be beat, you can walk to Epcot and Hollywood Studios.
 
My 75,000 Marriott points credited to my account this morning! :flower1:
Yeah! Love that feeling

DH got the BOA rewards card in January. We met MSR last week. Interestingly BOA sent an email saying we met MSR but the points didn’t post until over a week later when the statement closed (actually late that night, I may have checked repeatedly :rolleyes1). I promptly opened a BOA savings account to deposit my $550. Will use the account to save for cruise then close it.
 
When most of us hit these cards it's not for keeping them, it's for the bonus. I'll propose a bit of a different thinking process:
1) how much spend can you meet in 3 months? [right now you can only meet the $3K spend so that is your cap no matter how awesome the bonus is on the other card]
2) what is the value of the bonus minus the FIRST year AF? [this tells you if you should be getting the card at all, obviously the value is great in year 1 for CIC and CIP]
3) what is the value of the card in year 2, so just the AF with no bonus? Not great on the CIP if you already have a CIC and are not a Plastiq guru- therefore, cancel it or downgrade it to a CIC. I suspect you'll want to cancel as you don't sound like the type to max categories out to the point where you need duplicate type cards. And IT'S OK TO CANCEL A CARD AFTER ONE YEAR. The only cards you want to avoid canceling are cards over 10 years old- other than that even canceled cards stay and age on your credit report up to 10 years then they drop off.

CIC is a long term keeper and I think it makes a lot of sense to pick it up now for you. CIP is a hit and drop, hit the bonus then drop it like it's hot (ie cancel ;) ) when the af comes due in year 2.

Sorry is this is a silly question. I'm still trying to figure all of this out. Does the ability to redeem points at the 1.25 rate for the CSP make it worth keeping long term?
 
The Discover Card can be a great asset the first year you have it because Discover doubles your cash back that first year, after that the max you get is 5%. We are planning a cruise for 2019. AA miles for flights, SPG & Hyatt points for hotels, and UR points to book excursions. We need cash &/or Disney gift cards for the cruise itself. First quarter my new Discover has earned me $250 cash back, plus I used it to buy Disney GCs at Sam’s and BJs for a discount.

Another option for Disney is SPG points. Dolphin & Swan are the only non Disney owned hotels on Disney property (located next to the Boardwalk and Beach/Yacht club). You can accumulate SPG or Marriott points (which convert to SPG points) and use them to book. If you book 4 night, 5th night is free, even on points. We love the Dolphin and the location can’t be beat, you can walk to Epcot and Hollywood Studios.

Absolutely! I think I wasn't clear enough in my post as to what I was trying to convey. For me (specifically) there is no cash back card that will give me more value than variable points. This was why I used an example of 100,000 points from a cash back card worth $1,000 vs 50,000 UR points which are worth $750 when used as cash to purchase travel, but for me those 50K UR can easily get me a flight that costs several thousands dollars when I transfer to an airline. I can't get that same flight with the 100K points on the cash back card. I was trying to express my bias on cash back vs variable points. It's also why I rarely use SPG points for hotel stays and am more inclined to transfer to an airline. We also purchase our Disney GCs at 5x and will mix in the discounted cards when they make sense for us. With the amount of Disney GCs we need to purchase to cover our Disney expenses cash back cards wouldn't make a significant dent on mitigating the vacation budget. But, earning 5x on them certainly does. I know our travel habits are somewhat on the outside of the bell curve but I share our strategies and plans to help add a counterpoint and thinking outside the box when people are getting into the hobby. Also, there's at least 4 others on this board who travels about the same way we do and the just as often. SOrry, if I confused things. Wasn't the intention.

Sorry is this is a silly question. I'm still trying to figure all of this out. Does the ability to redeem points at the 1.25 rate for the CSP make it worth keeping long term?

If you do not have another premium UR earning card like CSR or CIP then yes. If you do, then the CSR is often a better bet for long term depending on your travel habits.
 
Attaching expiration and transfer PDF. All you have to do is earn or use some points. Go online and purchase some points or use your points for something and that will extend them another year.

I love it!! Thanks for sharing. This will go in my TravelHacking folder.
 
I hate always being the bearer of bad news, but there are reports of MPX no longer earning bonus categories on Chase cards:

https://www.reddit.com/r/churning/c...stion_thread_march_24_2018/dw7oya2/?context=3

https://www.reddit.com/r/churning/comments/86zus0/comment/dw9c59z?st=JF75JL27&sh=2c3d2b3a

My Uber (travel) purchase on 3/6 coded for 3x UR on CSR, but my most recent Uber purchase on 3/23 is still pending. Looks like the change happened in the last week or so. You should still be able to earn 1.5x UR using CFU since that multiple is built into the card, but MPX doesn't seem to be triggering the 2x, 3x, 5x bonus categories anymore.
 
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Sorry is this is a silly question. I'm still trying to figure all of this out. Does the ability to redeem points at the 1.25 rate for the CSP make it worth keeping long term?
No silly q’s here :) Assuming you are not holding a CSR... At the end of year one sit down and see how many points did you earn? (Subtract the sign up bonus associated points, add in any points you would transfer from other Chase cards.) Compare the cash value (1 rate) vs travel value (1.25 rate). That’s a roughly calculated minimum expected return on the CSP for the next year.Add into your calculations any value you see in the CSP trip insurance benefit. Now you have a rough estimate on if the card is worth keeping beyond year 1 to you.
*I’m assuming you aren’t planning on transferring points to travel partners & have already spent your sign up bonus*

Many people who don’t have the CSR find value in keeping the CSP.
 
Next weekend is really shaping up to be a complete travel hacked weekend for us. Some of you may remember we are going to DC next weekend to see the cherry blossoms. We are using our free anniversary nights from IHG to stay at the Willard Intercontinental. The rooms are $253 per night that weekend. I'd say that's a good return on a $49 per year card. We have direct flights in first class and paid with Amex MR points earned from the Amex business Platinum card which also gave us the added benefit of getting 50% of the points back when we booked. Some friends of ours from Virginia wanted to meet up with us for an Easter brunch before we fly back home on Sunday. They tried to get reservations for a party of 6, 10 am at Old Ebbitt Grill but there was nothing available until after 3 pm and we need to be at the airport by 1:30. So, they were going to look at other restaurants to see if they could find brunch availability. I asked our friends to give me a few minutes and I'd call up Amex Concierge to see if they could pull any strings. I've only used Amex concierge twice and both times were for getting Hamilton tickets at face value. The Amex Concierge rep said he'd see what they could do and would call me back in 10 minutes. Sure enough, we have 10 am reservations for a party of 6. Thank you Amex concierge service! I swear, before this hobby it would have never occurred to me to use a credit card benefit to get dining reservations.

That is so awesome! I haven't even thought about the extra services involved with some cards, just the rewards! Sounds like a really fun weekend (I love the crab cakes at Old Ebbit Grill!). Have a great time!
 
Well after graduation I booked a trip to the Bahamas. I just feel like I can’t wait any longer to travel. I used 140,000 Marriott points for five nights at the Royal Towers and 13k RR points for a round trip flight. SO flys for free since he is my companion. This will be the first time he is leaving the country. I feel a little guilty that I’ll be vacationing when I should be studying for the bar, but my prep course released a study schedule so I will just do the work I’m supposed to before our vacation. I may end up canceling, but I’m excited to have something booked.
 
Well after graduation I booked a trip to the Bahamas. I just feel like I can’t wait any longer to travel. I used 140,000 Marriott points for five nights at the Royal Towers and 13k RR points for a round trip flight. SO flys for free since he is my companion. This will be the first time he is leaving the country. I feel a little guilty that I’ll be vacationing when I should be studying for the bar, but my prep course released a study schedule so I will just do the work I’m supposed to before our vacation. I may end up canceling, but I’m excited to have something booked.

We were so strapped financially and otherwise during most of my time in nursing school that when I graduated (and our income more than doubled) we went to WDW 3 times in less the year after graduation. That was a big jump from having taken one vacation in the 5 years before that. Everyone thought we had lost our minds. Ha ha!
 
We were so strapped financially and otherwise during most of my time in nursing school that when I graduated (and our income more than doubled) we went to WDW 3 times in less the year after graduation. That was a big jump from having taken one vacation in the 5 years before that. Everyone thought we had lost our minds. Ha ha!

I had no money during school and now my goal is financial independence so I can retire early. We definitely wouldn’t be able to travel if it wasn’t for points. We went to Disneyland with free flights and a quick trip to World with free flights and four nights at a value on points. I’m so grateful I found out about this hobby, because I definitely wouldn’t be traveling as much without it. All my friends in school wonder how I travel, but when I explain they aren’t interested.
 
Absolutely! I think I wasn't clear enough in my post as to what I was trying to convey. For me (specifically) there is no cash back card that will give me more value than variable points. This was why I used an example of 100,000 points from a cash back card worth $1,000 vs 50,000 UR points which are worth $750 when used as cash to purchase travel, but for me those 50K UR can easily get me a flight that costs several thousands dollars when I transfer to an airline. I can't get that same flight with the 100K points on the cash back card. I was trying to express my bias on cash back vs variable points. It's also why I rarely use SPG points for hotel stays and am more inclined to transfer to an airline. We also purchase our Disney GCs at 5x and will mix in the discounted cards when they make sense for us. With the amount of Disney GCs we need to purchase to cover our Disney expenses cash back cards wouldn't make a significant dent on mitigating the vacation budget. But, earning 5x on them certainly does. I know our travel habits are somewhat on the outside of the bell curve but I share our strategies and plans to help add a counterpoint and thinking outside the box when people are getting into the hobby. Also, there's at least 4 others on this board who travels about the same way we do and the just as often. SOrry, if I confused things. Wasn't the intention.
You weren’t confusing, I was just trying to add another perspective. I don’t think the cashback cards work all that week long term but first year, DiscoverIt at 10% can add quite a bit. But it wouldn’t replace other cards. For instance this year, we also got SPG Biz and BOA Rewards cards and plan on CIC or CIP.
 
For example, I know we won't be able to cover all travel expenses with rewards for all of our trips. We love Airbnb for lodging in Europe and save so much money over using points . That frees up our points for flights which we have found much greater value in. I have to remember to come back here before I purchase anything though because the folks here are SO creative with their advice!

For AirBnB, you have two options that I can think of offhand to save some more money or earn additional points:

1. PayPal Digital Gifts (PPDG) often runs sales on eBay for AirBnB e-gift cards.
You get the point that these 8-10% sales happen quite frequently, and tend to ramp up at the end of the quarter when PPDG and eBay are trying to juice up their sales numbers. Check Doctor of Credit regularly, because he's really good about posting gift card deals, or we can tag you here if you're interested.

or

2. MileagePlus X (MPX) sells AirBnB e-gift cards.
  • You can earn 2 United MileagePlus (UA) miles/$1 on AirBnB gift cards.
  • AirBnB gift cards max out at $500 on MPX, but you can buy several. (I would not recommend buying several $500 gift cards all in one day because you’ll likely trigger a fraud alert and could get your account frozen!)
  • If you have a United MileagePlus Visa credit card attached to your MPX account, you get a cardmember bonus of 25% more miles on your gift card purchases.
  • You don't have to actually use a MileagePlus Visa credit card to pay for your gift card purchase on MPX to earn the cardmember bonus; use another card which will offer you the rewards/points/miles that you value or a new card you're trying to meet a minimum required spend on for the signup bonus.
So for example, if I buy a $500 AirBnB gift card on MPX, I'll earn 1000 UA miles + 250 UA miles (because I have a MileagePlus Visa attached to my account) + 500 Starpoints (because I'm paying with my Amex SPG Business credit card).

then

3. Once you've bought your AirBnB gift cards, go to the Delta/AirBnB portal at https://www.deltaairbnb.com, click through and make the booking on AirBnB to earn 1x Delta SkyMiles/$1 on stays. I see this program is also offering 1000 bonus SkyMiles for new guests and a $25 coupon for first bookings.
 
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