DW only has the freedom from a product change from the csp. So not sure what to do. I have the SPG Personal and was tempted to upgrade to the lux.
Today is the last day to get both the
Chase Marriott Biz and the
Amex SPG Personal. Both have 75k Marriott points bonuses and $3k MSRs.
Here is where it gets tricky. Marriott, together with their issuing partners Chase and Amex, came up with a bunch of rules that went into effect on 8/26/18. Under these rules, you either qualify for a signup bonus or not based on what Marriott/SPG cards you have open, have opened in the last 90 days, and what bonuses you've gotten on the Starriott cards in the past 24 months. For more:
Navigating Marriott’s Byzantine Credit Card Rules.
Under these rules, it appears getting the Marriott Biz first may not preclude you from getting the bonus on the SPG Personal. See my post on that
here. However, getting the Marriott Biz would disqualify DW from getting a bonus on the SPG Biz as long as she holds the Marriott Biz, and from the bonus on the SPG Lux for 24 months after the bonus posts on the Marriott Biz. Getting the SPG Personal would disqualify DW from getting the Marriott Premier Plus as long as she holds the SPG Personal.
As a practical matter, in order for DW to get the bonus on the Marriott Biz, she can't have had the SPG Personal in the last 30 days. Since Amex approvals (assuming DW doesn't get the pop up) are usually instantaneous, whereas Chase business applications can take days to approve, it's very likely DW would be approved for the SPG Personal before the Marriott Biz, and therefore disqualify herself from the bonus on the Marriott Biz. So if DW decides to make a FOMO application on the Chase Marriott Biz or the Amex SPG Personal, she'll have to
choose one lane, and be subject to the post-8/26 rules based on that choice.
I'm short on time, so I'll repost some thoughts I had about this choice from a few weeks ago.
I was a big proponent of going the Amex SPG route because they had 3 cards (and SUBs) vs. Chase's 2. But the SPG Personal is being discontinued after 2/12/19. The Marriott Biz is being discontinued after 2/12/19. If you're not going to be able to get all 3, and realistically looking at just 2 of Amex's SPG cards (the Biz and the Lux, which are sticking around for the indefinite future), then why not just get Chase's 2 Marriotts (the Biz and the Premier Plus) now and worry about maybe getting Amex's cards 2+ years from now? I also wonder at this point, if focusing on Chase for Marriott cards might take off some pressure to spend on Amex. Chase doesn't really care about ongoing spend (so drop the CL on the Marriott Biz down to $1k eventually if you want to open up room for more Chase biz cards); Amex does.
You may be tempted to have DW apply for the SPG Personal because you could refer her, but as this appears to be DW's first card with Amex she needs to be very careful with Amex. If you're planning to keep opening Amex cards for their bonuses, you need to keep Amex happy by putting continued spend on the cards you already have. If Amex sees a drop-off in your spend after you've met MSR and received a bonus, they'll assume you're a gamer who is only opening their cards for the bonus and may flag your account with a pop up that appears on future applications and denies you a bonus on any new cards based on your "history." (Personal anecdote, my wife opened only 2 Amex cards, kept spending on them after she got the bonuses, but her spending dropped off from the thousands she spent a month while meeting MSR to a few hundred every month, and got the bonus denial pop up while trying to apply for her third Amex card.) While the SPG Personal's MSR is only $3k in 3 months, it might be best to spread out your spend so that your monthly statements are more even, rather than paying one or two big expenses and hitting the MSR fast, then sock drawing the card. And keep putting spend on your Amex cards. I'd hate for you to get the pop up when you're ready to apply for another Amex.
A few more thoughts. Referrals can have tax implications. So while you could refer your wife to the SPG Personal, you may end up receiving a 1099 for the value of that referral come tax time next year. Also, since your wife does not have any Amex cards, she might be a target for a big Amex welcome offer like a 100k MR bonus on the Amex Platinum, and signing up for the SPG Personal could make your wife no longer a new customer that Amex wants to target with a big offer.
I feel like a lot of folks are taking a hard look at the Chase Marriott Biz before it's discontinued because it is essentially the same card as the SPG Biz. Both currently have 75k Marriott points signup bonuses after $3k MSR, both earn 35k FN certs after one year (Chase's posts promptly on your card anniversary vs. Amex posts 6-8 weeks after your AF posts, forcing you to pay the AF if you want the FN). The big difference is in the AF. The SPG Biz has a $95 AF, waived in the first year if you apply by 2/12/19; but the SPG Biz AF is going up to $125 (in March?). The Marriott Biz has a $99 AF, not waived in the first year, but also not slated to increase.
If you have more questions, just reply.
As for your SPG Personal, don't upgrade to the Lux without an upgrade offer. You'll disqualify yourself from ever getting a signup bonus on the Lux without the points to make up for it from an upgrade offer. If you want the Lux, sign up for it separately. If that doesn't work with your 5/24 count if you still plan to get Chase cards, wait until you're over 5/24 because the SPG Lux isn't going away (it's just being rebranded).
P.S. I’d add that if you have to choose the Marriott Biz or the SPG Personal, the Marriott Biz won’t add to DW’s 5/24 count and she can eventually get the rebranded Marriott Premier Plus before she’s over 5/24. If and when she’s ready for what will become of the SPG Biz and Lux, she can (get and) cancel the Chase Marriott cards over the course of the next two years. The SPG Personal will add to DW’s 5/24 count and leave her with less flexibility to get the Marriott card from Chase while she’s still under 5/24.