I Just Saw the most incredible PSA or "ad".

Our gov't is trying to build an $8B fence between here and Mexico, maybe they think the WMDs will be relocated to Nuevo Laredo or Tijuana.
 
Chuck S said:
Our gov't is trying to build an $8B fence between here and Mexico, maybe they think the WMDs will be relocated to Nuevo Laredo or Tijuana.

Maybe its a good idea to build a fence because its a good idea to build a fence.
What's your solution to illegal immigration?
 
DawnCt1 said:
Maybe its a good idea to build a fence because its a good idea to build a fence.
What's your solution to illegal immigration?

Changing the subject Dawn? I'm still waiting for the "Syria Connection" article.
 
eclectics said:
Changing the subject Dawn? I'm still waiting for the "Syria Connection" article.

I think you can do your own search. Its long been speculated.
 

eclectics said:
In other words, you got zip. Thank you.

No, I am sure you will find info if you search. I just do not chose to do your home work for you.
 
DawnCt1 said:
No, I am sure you will find info if you search. I just do not chose to do your home work for you.

Okay. Fair enough. I did my own search. I'll tell ya my theory on media reports. If I can only find them on liberal websites, it's validity is highly suspect. If I can only find them on conservative websites, it's validity is highly suspect. When I find them on both, I stand up and take notice. Well Dawn, I'm not standing. Thanks anyway. See you at the next debate.
 
eclectics said:
Okay. Fair enough. I did my own search. I'll tell ya my theory on media reports. If I can only find them on liberal websites, it's validity is highly suspect. If I can only find them on conservative websites, it's validity is highly suspect. When I find them on both, I stand up and take notice. Well Dawn, I'm not standing. Thanks anyway. See you at the next debate.

search on Newsmax.
 
DawnCt1 said:
search on Newsmax.

Are you kidding? They make Fox look socialist. When Rich Santorum and Ted Kennedy both tell me it's true, then I'll believe it.
 
The Kurdistan Development Corporation Limited (KDC) is an initiative established jointly by the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) and international business people to advise on, develop and implement micro and macro development projects within the stable and prosperous region of Iraqi-Kurdistan.

The remit of the KDC falls between politics and business development and, as such, the KDC is an Investment Holdings and Promotions Agency; working in close conjunction with the Kurdistan Regional Government to identify and implement projects that accelerate the redevelopment of Iraqi-Kurdistan.

The KDC has offices in London and Erbil (both independently and within the KRG Ministry of Housing), with outreach posts or personnel in Dohuk, Suleimani, Baghdad and the US ( Boston & Washington ).

Founding members of the KDC include Siamand Banaa, former UK High Representative of the KRG and now the Iraqi Ambassador to The Netherlands and Dr Salah Al-Shaikhly, former Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq, now the Iraqi Ambassador to the United Kingdom.

The Board of KDC
The KDC Board is complemented by a Committee established by the Office of the Prime Minister, H.E. Nechirvan Barzani.

You can view the advertisement here:

http://www.theotheriraq.com/index.html

Not sure why some are objecting to a for-profit, business entity being involved in this. Economic expansion in the area, and in the entire state of Iraq will be GOOD for the Iraqi people.
 
bsnyder said:
You can view the advertisement here:

http://www.theotheriraq.com/index.html

Not sure why some are objecting to a for-profit, business entity being involved in this. Economic expansion in the area, and in the entire state of Iraq will be GOOD for the Iraqi people.

I don't think anybody is objecting to the ad itself, it's the insinuation that is is actually the Kurd people thanking us and not a staged paid commercial for a industry. I'm all for free (and fair) enterprise in Iraq. The ad just smells of the swift boat and moveon.org ads, that's all, at least for me. I can't speak for the other posters.
 
eclectics said:
I don't think anybody is objecting to the ad itself, it's the insinuation that is is actually the Kurd people thanking us and not a staged paid commercial for a industry. I'm all for free (and fair) enterprise in Iraq. The ad just smells of the swift boat and moveon.org ads, that's all, at least for me. I can't speak for the other posters.

Did you miss the part where it's a joint effort between the Kurdistan government and the business community?

Here's what President Barzani of Kurdistan Regional Government of Iraq had to say when he met with President Bush last month:


PRESIDENT BARZANI: (As translated.) Mr. President, allow me on behalf of the people of Kurdistan and myself to thank you, very much. We in Kurdistan, particularly, and also in Iraq, generally, we highly value the courage and bravery of your leadership. I hope that everybody would realize what the fact on the ground is about Iraq. It was a brave decision that you have made -- you have liberated a people from a dictatorial regime that has hurt a lot of the people.

At this time we express our condolences and we express our sympathy to the families of your brave men and women in uniform, those who have sacrificed their lives in order to make other people free and liberated. There is no doubt that if we step back from this and not be determined, be rest assured that the terrorists will come to the gates of you and us and they will fight us. Therefore, we have to think about nothing else but victory. And I'm quite confident that with your leadership, with your support and support of the United States military and United States people, and also the -- heroes of the people of Iraq, in general, the people of Kurdistan, we will achieve success at the end.

For those who are anti-democratic and also those who are against the process, they are very limited; and those who are supportive of your leadership, supportive of democratic process, they are many, and they highly appreciate the sacrifices that have been made by the American people and the American army. There are also many in Iraq, in general, and also in Kurdistan, all of them are appreciative.

Thank you.

Are his thank you's, on behalf of the Kurdish people, staged and paid for?
 
bsnyder said:
Did you miss the part where it's a joint effort between the Kurdistan government and the business community?

Here's what President Barzani of Kurdistan Regional Government of Iraq had to say when he met with President Bush last month:




Are his thank you's, on behalf of the Kurdish people, staged and paid for?

I thought we were talking about this one particular ad?? and not the apparantly cordial relationship Bush and Baranzi have. :confused3 If it smells like a ad, quacks like a ad, it's a ad. Period. Ads are not spontanious and they involve writing and creativity. All I'm saying is don't pretend it's something it's not. That's all.
 
eclectics said:
I thought we were talking about this one particular ad?? and not the apparantly cordial relationship Bush and Baranzi have. :confused3 If it smells like a ad, quacks like a ad, it's a ad. Period. Ads are not spontanious and they involve writing and creativity. All I'm saying is don't pretend it's something it's not. That's all.

What is it "pretending" to be, that it's not? And who ever maintained that ANY ads or PSA's are spontaneous? They have to be written and produced, BY SOME ENTITY. In this case, there's a business development arm of the Kurdistan government that's trying to promote economic investment in their country. Why does that somehow taint the ad?

The issue here is whether or not the Kurds are grateful to our country. Your position seems to be that the ad is pretending that they are, when they actually are not. :confused3
 
bsnyder said:
What is it "pretending" to be, that it's not? And who ever maintained that ANY ads or PSA's are spontaneous? They have to be written and produced, BY SOME ENTITY. In this case, there's a business development arm of the Kurdistan government that's trying to promote economic investment in their country. Why does that somehow taint the ad?

The issue here is whether or not the Kurds are grateful to our country. Your position seems to be that the ad is pretending that they are, when they actually are not. :confused3


Of course I'm not saying the Kurds aren't grateful. How you got that from my posts, I'll never know. I don't know if they are or they aren't. There is no "issue". If I were a Kurd, I'd probably be thrilled to see us there. It's a difference of opinion about how a advertisement was presented for heavens sake. It's not a public thank you card from the Kurds. The Kurdish government did not pay for it. Industry did. Is there something wrong with that? Absolutely not. I never said there was. More power to them. Are the Kurds happy with us? I hope so. To sum up: The ONLY point I am making ABOUT THIS ONE PARTICULAR AD is this; Is it a PSA from the Kurdish people thanking us? No, it's a ad paid for by business interests. Would the Kurdish people like to thank us? I'm sure they would. I wish them all the good luck in the world. Now, it's my birthday in 90 minutes and I want a cup of tea and a rerun of Leave It To Beaver. Have a good night.
 
Laz said:
It was a good commercial DawnCT. Remember, some people's perceptual screens will only let them see the ad a certain way. I perceive it as a true thank you. It leaves me with a good feeling. I hope my former students serving in Iraq right now get to see it.

Well said! :sunny:

And to Dawn -- thanks for posting! :goodvibes
 


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