I have a few questions.

[chaseg03]

1) When will the magic be out of the fleet?


2) Are the new ships going to be 135,000 tons definitely or could that change?


3) Any new news on the new ships?

Thanks

 

[PrincessShmoo]

1) When will the magic be out of the fleet?


2) Are the new ships going to be 135,000 tons definitely or could that change?


3) Any new news on the new ships?

Thanks

I don't believe there are any plans (at least ones that are being rumored about) for selling off the Magic.

You can read what's been released about the new ships here: http://disneycruiselineblog.com/?s=new+ship&submit=Search

 

[truck1]

1) When will the magic be out of the fleet?


2) Are the new ships going to be 135,000 tons definitely or could that change?


3) Any new news on the new ships?

Thanks

The Magic still has a lot of life in her. Typically ships a designed for a 40-50 year life span. The Magic is barely half that. The only thing that would kill the Magic before the end of her expected lifespan, other then a fire or accident, would be a major change in the SOLAS rules and regs. For example, the only reason that the QE2 was retired and is now a floating hotel in Saudi Arabia or somewhere around there, was there was a major SOLAS change that basically said a ship could no longer have more then a given amount of wood and combustibles onboard. It was cheaper to retire her then to retrofit her to current standards.

The new ship last I heard was going to be slightly larger then the 130 that the Dream class is. I believe the 135000 is fairly close. They new builds are also supposed to be about the same length and width which sounds like the ships balconies may be moved further out to be more inline with the edge of the hull but that is pure speculation on my part. I cant think of anything else off hand that would add 5000 tons to the ships and not affect the overall length and width.

Other than that there is nothing new from the new ship area. I think well start hearing more about the new ships in about a year or so.

 

[Mushu's Twin]

1) When will the magic be out of the fleet?


2) Are the new ships going to be 135,000 tons definitely or could that change?


3) Any new news on the new ships?

Thanks

1) Not for a while. She's only barely middle aged.

2) The tonnage will be pretty close to that. In order for a contract to stay in place with the shipyards there has to be a completed deck plan. A shipyard isn't going to sit there and have a company constantly changing things possibly backing up their delivery schedule.

3) Nothing recently

 

[truck1]

2) The tonnage will be pretty close to that. In order for a contract to stay in place with the shipyards there has to be a completed deck plan. A shipyard isn't going to sit there and have a company constantly changing things possibly backing up their delivery schedule.

Not necessarily. Contracts are changed all the time for 1 reason or another. Nothing has been ordered yet for the ships, that wont happen until the design is finalized. So if the weight changes np harm or foul. After everyone agree, then its a problem. Its what held up the Magic and the Wonder. Carnival put in a couple of change orders and that made a mess out of the schedule for everyone. It took Fincantieri almost 2 years to recover. What is in place is a letter of intent with the yard basically saying that MW will be the primary contractor to build 2 new ships to be delivered in 2021 and 2023. What that does is gty DCL a place in MW production line. Once the design parameters are finalized, then the weight gets added to the final contract. And that's because it will fluctuate up to that point. DCL may have a ball park, but it will depend on what they try and shove into the hull that will make the difference. What I'm really hoping for is that DCL doesn't go ahead and put azipods in. Despite their recent advances, they are still not nearly as reliable as traditional prop and rudder. Every year there are still several ships that go to dry dock early because the rotating bearings fail prematurely. And that will be a 2 week adventure.