I Don't Get it

[fly girl]

Apparently on Saturday night Beyoncé released new music that accuses JayZ of cheating with someone named Becky. I don't get the next part but people think that is someone named Rachel Roy ( I don't get how Becky became Rachel in this nonsense). Some of Beyoncé's massive number of online fans assumed it was Rachel Ray and not Rachel Roy and proceeded to attack Rachel Ray online. Some of their posts are extremely funny.

Becky is a negative slang term used to describe airhead white girls.


(it's also used to describe a particular act, Google because I can't say it here)

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Interrupting this broadcast

To post a picture of my FIL, the Type 2 Diabetic (just in case there were still people out there believing that only fat people get it!)...



Oh, and he has been labeled "skinny" all his life.

Type 2 diabetes is when the body either doesn't make enough insulin, or the insulin it does make doesn't work right.

Thank you. Now we'll return to our regular programming.

 

[VandVsmama]

I really don't get the mourning for Prince he was a singer, he killed himself by taking pills and yet people are so upset over his death. I don't get the IDOL worship for singers and actors. I would rather honor the Military and all first responders who are killed because of the Job they do not because they Sang a song. I guess I am just disgusted by the hero worship for these people who get a 4 or 5 page thread and a post on a Cop who was murdered in the line of Duty gets maybe a page or 2 response. It really makes me question some people's values and morals.

To each his/her own opinion.

My opinion:
The #1 thing I've learned about celebrity deaths is that most celebrities end up addicted to drugs and/or alcohol at some point. It's like an epidemic in Hollywood & the music industry. And whenever anyone dies due to an addiction problem, it's tragic.

It's sad when ANYONE dies. REGARDLESS of their profession, what side of the tracks they live on, what their skin color is, how much money they did or did not have, etc. Every person who dies is someone's son or daughter, maybe someone's father or mother, someone's dear friend or loved one.

Prince's death is sad because, well, he was a very gifted musician. For a lot of us in Generation X, his music and Michael Jackson's bring us back to those good times that we had when we were kids. I remember what a big deal Prince & The Revolution were when I was in middle school. The crazy outfits and huge hair that he and his band members all had at the time. And what I appreciate is how much fun my friends & I had listening to and dancing to his music.

Of course, he has composed hundreds of songs since the 1980s. Hundreds of songs, even, that no one has heard yet because they're in a fault in his house in Minnesota. I consider him as gifted as somebody like Ray Charles, Danny Elfman, and Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys. So now he's up in heaven wearing a raspberry beret and partying like it's 1999.

 

[asta]

Becky is a negative slang term used to describe airhead white girls.


(it's also used to describe a particular act, Google because I can't say it here)

Thanks, I was clueless. By the way, that makes me old not an airhead.

 

[EMAW_KSU]

Off topic but speaking of social media being wrong, the whole Rachel Roy, Rachel Ray and Beyoncé thing yesterday. Some of the ridiculous comments posted about Rachel Ray were so funny.

Sorry, back to the insults.

This needs its own thread.

 

[asta]

OMG People really thought Rachel Ray and JayZ were having an affair.

I find that extremely funny, not only that they believed it but took to social media to attack Rachel Ray.

 

[fly girl]

Thanks, I was clueless. By the way, that makes me old not an airhead.

I hope you don't think I considered you an airhead? I was just explaining what Becky meant.

I don't think you did, but sometimes it is hard to read intent.

 

[fly girl]

This needs its own thread.

It does.

 

[asta]

I hope you don't think I considered you an airhead? I was just explaining what Becky meant.

I don't think you did, but sometimes it is hard to read intent.

I did not think that at all. I was making a joke about my ever advancing age.

 

[asta]

This needs its own thread.

Done

 

[fly girl]

I did not think that at all. I was making a joke about my ever advancing age.

I thought so, but wanted to make sure.

I only know Becky became a popular term from Sir Mix A Lot's Baby Got Back.

(I'm old too).

 

[ICF]

didn't read all 9 pages -- but Prince touched many many lives -- his death is no more or less important than a 1st responder or any of the other hundreds / thousands of people that get killed helping others or protecting our country every week.

That said -- I likely don't know them and while I may find their death sad ....it doesn't really impact like the death of Prince, MJ or Robin Williams did.

I grew up listening to Prince music in the 80s / 90s -- so to me, his death had meaning and was a part of my childhood dying with him. He also performed at the SuperBowl when our local team (the Colts) were winning their 1st SB. I was legitimately sad to hear he died...just as I was with Robin Williams. My wife and I saw Aladdin on our first date and I enjoyed Robin in most everything he did. Not having him around to make me laugh any more still makes me sad.

I don't know that most people hold a celebrity death in high regard than any other -- but they are likely just more impacted by it.

 

[cabanafrau]

didn't read all 9 pages -- but Prince touched many many lives -- his death is no more or less important than a 1st responder or any of the other hundreds / thousands of people that get killed helping others or protecting our country every week.

That said -- I likely don't know them and while I may find their death sad ....it doesn't really impact like the death of Prince, MJ or Robin Williams did.

I grew up listening to Prince music in the 80s / 90s -- so to me, his death had meaning and was a part of my childhood dying with him. He also performed at the SuperBowl when our local team (the Colts) were winning their 1st SB. I was legitimately sad to hear he died...just as I was with Robin Williams. My wife and I saw Aladdin on our first date and I enjoyed Robin in most everything he did. Not having him around to make me laugh any more still makes me sad.

I don't know that most people hold a celebrity death in high regard than any other -- but they are likely just more impacted by it.

Got involved in really quick discussion about this whole idea with a psychologist today. She suggested that sometimes people "mourn" celebrities as a means of grieving and releasing other strong emotions in a safe way, because on some level it's understood that they're really not emotionally invested in the celebrity the way they are with people genuinely in their lives that they are grieving for or those who are terribly ill and they are very worried about. "Mourning" about a celebrity allows a person to have an outlet for those feelings without really acknowledging the reality those feelings stem from.

I guess it makes sense. I always assumed it had more to do on reflecting on days gone by we associate with a celebrity, music, a movie, a TV show, etc.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

To each his/her own opinion.

My opinion:
The #1 thing I've learned about celebrity deaths is that most celebrities end up addicted to drugs and/or alcohol at some point. It's like an epidemic in Hollywood & the music industry. And whenever anyone dies due to an addiction problem, it's tragic.

It's sad when ANYONE dies. REGARDLESS of their profession, what side of the tracks they live on, what their skin color is, how much money they did or did not have, etc. Every person who dies is someone's son or daughter, maybe someone's father or mother, someone's dear friend or loved one.

Prince's death is sad because, well, he was a very gifted musician. For a lot of us in Generation X, his music and Michael Jackson's bring us back to those good times that we had when we were kids. I remember what a big deal Prince & The Revolution were when I was in middle school. The crazy outfits and huge hair that he and his band members all had at the time. And what I appreciate is how much fun my friends & I had listening to and dancing to his music.

Of course, he has composed hundreds of songs since the 1980s. Hundreds of songs, even, that no one has heard yet because they're in a fault in his house in Minnesota. I consider him as gifted as somebody like Ray Charles, Danny Elfman, and Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys. So now he's up in heaven wearing a raspberry beret and partying like it's 1999.

I haven't said much in the Prince threads, because honestly, I wasn't very familiar with his work. I was trying to figure out why. And what I figured out, is that, the height of his popularity was one of the busiest times in my life, and, for a few reasons, I didn't listen to a lot of modern music. (A, I liked older music best, B, places where I worked either didn't play music, or played older music, and C) college studies and working took up most of my time.) At any rate, I understand how people feel because I felt the same way about Michael Jackson (and others, as I've said on another thread). I was really blown away when it came out that Michael died from propofol, because I knew, from working in a hospital, that that particular drug wasn't used outside of a hospital setting where stringent monitoring and advanced cardiac life support procedures were in place. I also couldn't believe a doctor would administer that to him in his home. And yes, I felt sorry that his life had become so sad and desperate, and angry that somehow he couldn't get help for his problems other than propofol for "sleep". Tragic. (I also remember a lot of people being critical on that thread.)

I do agree with the bolded above (although I might substitute "many" for "most), that many celebrities do struggle with addictions. Brian Wilson was mentioned (I realize for being a musical genius, not his addictions) so I will use him as an example. Brian and the rest of the Beach Boys made millions of dollars when they were just teenagers. Filthy rich at like, 16 or 17. Along with their money came access to drugs and really anything else they wanted. Brian took so many hallucinogenics he crashed and burned and didn't get out of bed for like three years at one point. (I'm not sure it's ever been exactly determined whether he had a longstanding psychiatric illness, but regardless, growing up he was relatively normal, if shy, but later on he became severely withdrawn and catatonic. Some question whether his drug use caused brain damage.) Brian has had a degree of recovery in more recent times, thankfully, but when he was on drugs he did some crazy things - like chasing his two girls' school bus buck naked (when he was like 300+lbs), boarding when it stopped, and asking schoolchildren if they had any drugs, while his daughters sat completely mortified. Today's drugs are different than those drugs. More available and more potent. Some are cheaper, as well. As we know from reading about celebrities, they battle demons just like anyone else. Drugs can be a mask for the hurt (and other emotions and dysfunctions) that are underneath. Celebrities may have more resources to buy drugs, and conceal their use. They also have people around them who will enable them.

Piecing together what I've read about Prince, it sounded like he really did have the flu - for a couple of weeks before his death. We also know he took opiates for his chronic pain issues, and didn't want to have surgery because of his religious beliefs, etc. One thing we know about people addicted to opiates is that they develop a tolerance, so that it takes higher doses to get the same effect as time goes on. His plane stopped unexpectedly in Illinois (?) on his way home last week, and reports were that he needed a "save shot" there (narcan, which means he had likely stopped breathing, or close to it), and that he refused a hospital stay because no private rooms were available (which I can't blame him for, if true - imagine the chaos and everyone trying to get footage with their phones). I mentioned on one of the "flu" threads a couple of weeks ago that I'd taken care of a man, younger than Prince, who came close to dying from the flu, and I understood, after caring for him, how people die from it. (And we have heard of lots of deaths from influenza this year.) This guy was so sick that he had to be intubated and ventilated (lungs), and even then, he had a rough go of it, developing ARDS (adult respiratory distress syndrome) and difficulty weaning off the vent. Eventually he came off, but he was left with organ failure, and his body was so deconditioned he couldn't even move on his own. Now this guy wasn't aiddicted to opiates (for whatever the reason), but imagine if he was, and imagine if he kept taking them, or had someone administer them to him, in that condition, at the same levels he was used to taking. (If anyone knows anyone who takes drugs for pain chronically, you know they HAVE TO HAVE THEM, RIGHT ON TIME, AND THEY WILL NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!) When organs are failing, or have failed, drugs don't get metabolized like they would normally, so they build up and take longer to clear. I wonder if this is what happene with Prince: if he was in such a weakened state from the flu, that the pain medication he was used to taking built up to toxic levels and unintentionally caused respiratory arrest, as it had several days before - but this time, he was alone. Supposedly his brother in law was telling people he'd been awake for many days straight, without sleep, as well. Certainly not saying this is exactly what happened, for sure, but if the pieces of information we're hearing are accurate, I could see this as a possibility.

I am not of the belief that people who "contribute to their own demise" are any less worthy of our care and sympathy than anyone else. None of us are perfect, and there but by the grace of God go I. As a nurse, I take care of all kinds of people. I try to educate them, but I don't sit in judgement of them. My father was a diabetic, as were many of his family members. I think it did contribute to his relatively early demise because he didn't take care of himself the way he should have, and it accelerated his cardiac disease. His sister learned from it, though, and despite her diabetes, lived, healthily, to 82. I do think we have a drug epidemic in this country and we have to fix it, because too many people are dying because of it. Changes have begun, thankfully, with laws evolving about prescription drug use and more programs to help people, rather than punish them, cropping up. Those are good things, as a start. If it turns out that Prince died of prescription medicine, I'm sure that will have an impact as well.

 

[Shmily1]

I really don't get the mourning for Prince he was a singer, he killed himself by taking pills and yet people are so upset over his death. I don't get the IDOL worship for singers and actors. I would rather honor the Military and all first responders who are killed because of the Job they do not because they Sang a song. I guess I am just disgusted by the hero worship for these people who get a 4 or 5 page thread and a post on a Cop who was murdered in the line of Duty gets maybe a page or 2 response. It really makes me question some people's values and morals.

You must have been there to know that he committed suicide because even the police and coroner don't know that yet. I really don't think it's "IDOL" worship at all, but more so RESPECT for the individual they were and the talent they had that is now gone.

You might also need to know that you really don't know how other people honor military or first responders that are KIA. How do you honor them? Have you stood outside the funeral to protect them from protesters in the snow or the freezing rain or 100 degree heat for several hours? Have you traveled 8 hours one way to be there for their families? Have you handed a plaque of appreciation to the parents or spouse or children of a KIA while they were under the funeral tent staring at the open hole in the ground? Yeah, probably not but I have many, many times and would do it again if needed.

Moral of the story--don't judge people you don't know for things you don't know.

 

[Christine]

Got involved in really quick discussion about this whole idea with a psychologist today. She suggested that sometimes people "mourn" celebrities as a means of grieving and releasing other strong emotions in a safe way, because on some level it's understood that they're really not emotionally invested in the celebrity the way they are with people genuinely in their lives that they are grieving for or those who are terribly ill and they are very worried about. "Mourning" about a celebrity allows a person to have an outlet for those feelings without really acknowledging the reality those feelings stem from.

I guess it makes sense. I always assumed it had more to do on reflecting on days gone by we associate with a celebrity, music, a movie, a TV show, etc.

I am with you. I guess it makes sense but I think it's reflecting on the past. Plus, who (female) wasn't just a little bit in love/lust with Prince during the 80s. I know I was. Even this weekend, watching some of his interviews, he was just so darn cute when he'd give that shy smile. Really, he had a beautiful smile. I felt my pop star crush all over again watching some of the shows. I miss that part of him (and me)!

 

[Liberty Belle]

I am with you. I guess it makes sense but I think it's reflecting on the past. Plus, who (female) wasn't just a little bit in love/lust with Prince during the 80s. I know I was. Even this weekend, watching some of his interviews, he was just so darn cute when he'd give that shy smile. Really, he had a beautiful smile. I felt my pop star crush all over again watching some of the shows. I miss that part of him (and me)!

I never was physically attracted to him, but some of my friends were.

 

[fly girl]

I am with you. I guess it makes sense but I think it's reflecting on the past. Plus, who (female) wasn't just a little bit in love/lust with Prince during the 80s. I know I was. Even this weekend, watching some of his interviews, he was just so darn cute when he'd give that shy smile. Really, he had a beautiful smile. I felt my pop star crush all over again watching some of the shows. I miss that part of him (and me)!

Felt the same way! VH1 had on Purple Rain on late last night. Watching him perform The Beautiful Ones made me think of that crush I had. Took me right back.

 

[tvguy]

Sorry I am confused...wrong about what?

Prince died, it was reported. People were stunned and shocked, they posted RIP or links to the news. I dont see the big deal. Someone else will die that was not significant in my life, say for example Merle Haggard. I didnt post RIP or any links because I didnt know his music that well but did know he was a country icon. I didnt care when others posted RIP etc because they did care I just scrolled on.

Once again, I will ask who deserves a Special Report?

Social Media is often wrong. Part of my job is tracking down those wild Tweets and Facebook posts to make sure they aren't correct.

 

[TheIncredibles!]

I really don't get the mourning for Prince he was a singer, he killed himself by taking pills and yet people are so upset over his death. I don't get the IDOL worship for singers and actors. I would rather honor the Military and all first responders who are killed because of the Job they do not because they Sang a song. I guess I am just disgusted by the hero worship for these people who get a 4 or 5 page thread and a post on a Cop who was murdered in the line of Duty gets maybe a page or 2 response. It really makes me question some people's values and morals.

You question people's values and morals because they appreciate talented people and that somehow means they don't appreciate other people? All people deserve to be mourned when they pass. You don't get to choose who people mourn, you don't get to decide how they mourn and who, why and how you mourn is NOT the measuring stick that everybody else needs to use to judge all others.