"I choose to be Amused!"-An Epic Trip to DL with a side of Oz(3/17-4 NEW POSTS pg17)

Another great ride-thanks. I quite liked the emphasis on Pixar vs Disney in DCA as a change (and because we love a lot of the Pixar movies too-not being big on the princesses-although really enjoyed Tangled.) Only having been to WDW once I still agree with you-we felt more fully immersed there and enjoyed the great variety between the 4 parks (and being winter we never even tried the water parks) whereas I too felt DL and DCA merged more or less. Will still probably get to visit DLR more often partly due to its closeness on the west coast and more because it does make for a shorter stopover en route to somewhere else in the US whereas I feel I need a week to do justice to WDW not just drop in. But they're all good!!
 
Wow, what an awesome TR! Love all your details and photos. So fun to read.

I hope you do a TR when you & your wife (sans DD!) come back. Please PM me if you do! :goodvibes
 
Nice way to sum up your impression of DLR and why you prefer WDW. The full immersion factor at WDW is what draws me there...and at the end of the day, the comparison of the parks and the rides will come down to personal preference.

Looking forward to the Aussie part of this TR.
 

Another great read-thanks. I quite liked the emphasis on Pixar vs Disney in DCA as a change (and because we love a lot of the Pixar movies too-not being big on the princesses-although really enjoyed Tangled.) Only having been to WDW once I still agree with you-we felt more fully immersed there and enjoyed the great variety between the 4 parks (and being winter we never even tried the water parks) whereas I too felt DL and DCA merged more or less. Will still probably get to visit DLR more often partly due to its closeness on the west coast and more because it does make for a shorter stopover en route to somewhere else in the US whereas I feel I need a week to do justice to WDW not just drop in. But they're all good!!

Fixed! :thumbsup2 I understand going to DLR, and there's certainly nothing wrong with it. I think both resorts are wonderful and would recommend that any Disney fan should at some point visit them both. I just wanted to state the case why DLR won't overtake my preference for WDW. Not to mention the cheaper air-fare to Florida!

Wow, what an awesome TR! Love all your details and photos. So fun to read.

I hope you do a TR when you & your wife (sans DD!) come back. Please PM me if you do! :goodvibes

Thank you very much! There's still a long way to go on this one though - I am only on day 4 of 28. If you continue to follow along, I am sure I will eventually set up a PTR for the trips next year. I wasn't sure if I was going to write a TR for the Backstage Magic trip, it seems like it would be somewhat limited because I am sure there are a lot of parts where pictures aren't allowed, but if people are interested I certainly could do it!

Nice way to sum up your impression of DLR and why you prefer WDW. The full immersion factor at WDW is what draws me there...and at the end of the day, the comparison of the parks and the rides will come down to personal preference.

Looking forward to the Aussie part of this TR.

Thanks also. I think some of the "preference" might come from which park formed your Disney childhood, which in my case was Florida. And as I said to Aussie Wendy, it really not a dis of DLR, its a beautiful park and definitely has plenty going for it. But I would continue to say that a real Disney fan should experience them both.

Sitting here today, I am more excited about going back to DLR - but possibly only because that trip is closer (8 vs 14 months) and more "special" because of the backstage stuff.

I will hopefully be getting to the start of the Australia portion soon. I actually write and upload pictures to Photobucket at home, and then usually spend some lunch hour time to post the segments. I am trying to stay a bit ahead where I can, so most of the first day in Sydney is done, just have to find the time to post it.
 
Does your daughter just not like Disney??? :confused3
Awesome report again!!!
so where are you taking us now???
 
I wasn't sure if I was going to write a TR for the Backstage Magic trip, it seems like it would be somewhat limited because I am sure there are a lot of parts where pictures aren't allowed, but if people are interested I certainly could do it!
Well I hope you do... I'd be listening! ;) You really do an awesome TR and it would be fun to hear about your experience as just husband & wife. Someday, my DH and I will do that, but it's a long while out I think...

I noticed you said you were making a photo book. What company do you use? What size book and do you use their templates or are the pages your own creations? I've made a bunch with Shutterfly (can't resist their coupons for free 8x8 books) and I really like the quality, but I think 8x8 is too small and 12x12 is too big...
 
Does your daughter just not like Disney??? :confused3
Awesome report again!!!
so where are you taking us now???

I don't know WHAT my daughter likes. She is the most frustrating kid you can imagine. Very stubborn and when she gets in the right mood, she simply doesn't want to do ANYTHING. The entire day can be a fight. There were times during this trip where we were so fed up with her. Fortunately, it seems like DW and I manage to get frustrated by her at different times, so usually the other one is there to calm the frustrated one down. Typically the issue at Disney is she does not like to try new things. We've gotten to the point at WDW where she's done just about everything there, though. However, with DL being entirely "New", combined with the Mattehorn / Indiana Jones / Splash Mountain experience on the first day just really turned her off to new things, which was really everything.

I recently asked her doctor if she could be mildly autistic. I've read a lot of TRs from folks with Autistic children, and I see some of that in her, easy to frustrate, sensitivity to excess stimulation (loud noises, crowds, 3-D movies), there's a lot of clothes we buy her she won't wear because they are "too itchy" even though they are as innocuous as like fleece sweaters. The doctor insisted she isn't though, that some kids are just more sensative than others. Since there are many aspects of autism she does not have, I have to beleive he's right.

I also think she is rather immature for her age, at least based on the behavior of her friends that are the same age. In a way its nice, because so many of these 9-year olds are already into "teen" things, and she is not, but at times I think she has a hard time fitting in because of it.

OK - I have to stop - because I hate to sound like I am bashing my daughter. I just find her very frustrating to me. She's very loving with us, and really a pretty good kid, but makes me bang my head against a wall.

Well I hope you do... I'd be listening! ;) You really do an awesome TR and it would be fun to hear about your experience as just husband & wife. Someday, my DH and I will do that, but it's a long while out I think...

I noticed you said you were making a photo book. What company do you use? What size book and do you use their templates or are the pages your own creations? I've made a bunch with Shutterfly (can't resist their coupons for free 8x8 books) and I really like the quality, but I think 8x8 is too small and 12x12 is too big...

Wow, thanks for your kind words. I sometimes feel like I'm writing these TRs to myself, which is OK because I like having a "record" of our trip, but it's so nice to get positive feedback. I will really consider your words as I get closer to putting together a TR.

We did the 12x12 photobook on Shutterfly. I was really happy with it, I didn't think it was too big at all. My only negative is I am concerned at the quality of the cover/binding, which I could see being not very hardy. I mostly used their templates, but modified a few of them. I typically put somewhere between 6 and 12 pictures per page, so I think in our case the larger photobook was a perfect size.
 
Wow, thanks for your kind words. I sometimes feel like I'm writing these TRs to myself, which is OK because I like having a "record" of our trip, but it's so nice to get positive feedback. I will really consider your words as I get closer to putting together a TR.
Cool!

I've been around here for years, but (as you can tell from my post count) I'm definitely more of a reader than poster. Based on the # of views on your thread, I'm going to guess that there are lots of people like me, reading and not necessarily posting. ;)

We did the 12x12 photobook on Shutterfly. I was really happy with it, I didn't think it was too big at all. My only negative is I am concerned at the quality of the cover/binding, which I could see being not very hardy. I mostly used their templates, but modified a few of them. I typically put somewhere between 6 and 12 pictures per page, so I think in our case the larger photobook was a perfect size.
Did you finish it? If you don't mind sharing, I'd love the link so I could see it! :)
 
Cool!

I've been around here for years, but (as you can tell from my post count) I'm definitely more of a reader than poster. Based on the # of views on your thread, I'm going to guess that there are lots of people like me, reading and not necessarily posting. ;)


Did you finish it? If you don't mind sharing, I'd love the link so I could see it! :)

I have noticed that I am getting quite a lot of "views" for my TR - more than in the past. I do hope it means people are enjoying what I'm writing. Look for another update to follow this one!

I haven't posted a link on my photobook only because the pictures from that are all going to eventually appear here - so I am hoping to keep my audience a little more captive. Let me think about it, though, maybe I would be willing to share.
 
Now, for those of you that are only here to hear about Disneyland – you are welcome to leave. For the rest, I’m now going to delve into the other 25 days of our trip. I will not be going into quite as much detail, but it still going to take a while to get through. So, stick around if you like.

I’m going to gloss over the next 20 hours or so of the trip. We took a shuttle to LAX from the Tropicana, changed clothes at the airport, and boarded our flight, which flight went very smoothly. While it was long – I didn’t think it was as bad as I thought it was going to be. We were all able to get some sleep – maybe 4-6 hours early in the flight, and then the in-seat TV was an effective entertainment tool for the remaining 10 – the nice thing being they give you a library of a few hundred movies and TV shows to watch. It was dark the whole flight, and as the sun rose we landed in Sydney – half a world away (OKAY – only about 7,600 miles from LA).

We had to go through customs twice, once without our bags and once with – so by the time we were through customs, it was around 9 AM. We wanted to go to our hotel and at least drop our bags. My original plan was to take the train for about $15 a person, but was concerned with dragging our bags through the streets. We asked at customs how much a taxi was, and they said “about $40” so I though “even he’s off a bit, that’s worth it”. Well, the toll charges were already $30 before we exited the airport proper, and a full $80 when we got to our hotel! Good thing we don’t have to add tip! The truth was, if we had taken the train, it would’ve been a tough walk with all our bags, but even taking a taxi from the train station would’ve been a lot less than $80.

Our hotel was the “Stafford Rendezvous”, which is situated in the “rocks” area of downtown, as shown on the map below. The orange highway extending off into the water is the Sydney harbor bridge, and you can also see where Circular Quay and the Opera House are on the map.

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When we got there our room was not ready. Not really a surprise, but they were nice enough to let us use the pool locker area to change. (Realize that it’s been about 34 hours at this point – Tuesday morning - since we’ve really had access to a decent bathroom to clean up.) At this point we out for a little walk to get some lunch and cash some traveler’s checks. We walked down to St. George Street towards the business district, and got our first good view of the Opera House (As I DISer, should I call it the SOH?)

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Our hope was to see a platypus in the wild. Does this one count?

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First lesson of international travel…travelers checks are no longer the way to go. Basically, anywhere you want to cash them, you are going to get hit with the pretty hefty service fee of close to 10% of the value. This really sucked, so I was glad I had only gotten $1000 worth, and were planning on charging most of our purchases. We passed a couple of banks and found one with the best rates. Still had to pay a $35 service fee to cash $400!

Several DISers had recommended eating lunch in what is best described as small food courts in the lower floors of office buildings, and that’s what we ended up doing. It was only 11 AM, but we were pretty darn hungry. We chose a restaurant that made Chicken Schnitzel sandwhiches for us, and DD got a ham and cheese croissant and a (huge) bowl of wonton soup.

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Needless to say she did not finish that meal. All told, lunch was a pretty cheap $30 for the three of us, including drinks.

At this point, we decided to “The Rocks” and take a little walk around, stopping at the Visitor Center. We spent probably an hour there sort of mapping out our plans for the next few days. (I will hold the details until they arrived.) After that, it was about 1 PM, so we figure we would see if we could check into the room.

When booking hotels for the trip, my target was to keep hotel room costs under $200 (US) whenever we could, and to try and stay around $150 if possible. I had originally booked a hotel in the Wynyard area, about 15 blocks away from the water but still in downtown Sydney. However, I came across the Rendezvous Stafford and decided to make an exception to my rule. It was $227 (US) a night, and for the extra $108 it was well worth it. The room was quite spacious, with a full kitchen and an decent shower.

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Best of all, though really, was the location, right in the heart of the rocks. There was a large balcony/party, which DW lamented that we were never able to host a party on. Here are the views from the patio. To the right, the financial district:

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To the left, showing the Rocks and Sydney Harbor Bridge (SHB):

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…and if you stand in just the right spot…where DW and DD are standing in this photo…

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…you can just make out this.
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Yup, those two white triangles are the SOH!

So, we spent a little time in the room unpacking/decompressing and took showers. Oh, that felt so good. By the time we were done it was 3 PM, and we made the decision to press on for a little while longer. We decided to walk around the Rocks a little more. DD of course wanted to stay in the room, but we wanted to go out, so we convinced her to go to the Rocks Discovery Museum, which is a free cultural museum that advertises as very family friendly.

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Well, the truth is, there really wasn’t much there for kids, there was an area with some paper and crayons, and a few interactive displays, but mostly it was pretty dry. DW and I enjoyed it though. It’s interesting, but I remember traveling to Europe when I was younger and meeting people that said they had no interest in visiting the US because nothing there was old enough to be worth looking at. I thought of that here, when the US was criticized for having nothing older than 400 years or so, the Rocks is the “birthplace” of settled Australia, and it amounts to being about 220 years old. Hard to be believe a mere 220 years ago there were no white settlers here, but actually a lot of America was still unexplored at that stage as well. Anyways, it was a bit interesting, but only took about an hour. We then walked around for a short time and took a few pictures:

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This area of the city reminded me a little bit of Boston, but overall, the city more reminded me of Seattle / San Francisco in that it had a lot of very modern buildings and was rather hilly. A little bit of Toronto too, as it had that cleanliness that American cities never seem to have.

We also stopped and picked up some groceries. Now seems about as good a time to mention it as any. One thing that gets asked most frequently about the trip is “how are the prices in Australia”. My comment is generally that everything there is a little more expensive, with the exception being food, which is A LOT more expensive. This applied to but restaurants and grocery stores. I think restaurants were typically 50-75 % more expensive than those at home, and groceries were probably double the price. Of course, shopping for groceries in the Rocks is not going to get you the best prices anyways, but we spent a quick $45 on breakfast foods and a few snacks. We returned the food to our room, and then headed back out to an early dinner. We had spotted a German restaurant – Lowenbrau – within a stone’s throw of our hotel, and decided to give it a try. It was pretty good traditional German food. I didn’t take pictures as we were getting pretty tired at the time. I had a goulash that was quite tasty while DW had KaseSpatzel (homemade macaroni and cheese, a family favorite) and DD had chicken strips. All was pretty good. At $70, not inexpensive, but not bad either.

We went back to the hotel and DD really wanted to go for a swim. The pool and hot tub were both “heated” but the pool was pretty cold, and the hot tub wasn’t all that hot. I stayed in the hot tub while DD splashed in the pool. (Weatherwise, it had probably been in the low 60s F today, so now it was dark the temperatures started to drop from there.) We didn’t stay real long, and by the time we got up to the room, we were all ready for some sleep.
 
Oh so happy that you have finally landed in Aus!

Now you see why us Aussies like to holiday in the US - our $ goes so much further (once you get past the airfares) - especially now our exchange rate is so good.

Its funny when I was planning my WDW trip and on the boards everyone was complaining about Disney restaurant prices - and I thought they were quite reasonable. We are planning a trip to Japan which seems to have a reputation for being incredibly expensive - but I imagine it will be comparable to Sydney.

But you are right - buying groceries from a convenience store in the city is always going to attract premium prices.
 
:wave2: hello! I'm one of the readers who haven't commented! I'm loving your TR so far, and cannot wait for the rest of the Australian part. I've lived in Australia my whole life and never been to Sydney so you've seen more than I have :thumbsup2

Interesting that 'our' food is much more expensive. I agree when we were in American we were mesmerised by how cheap everything was food wise - when we ate out it was maybe $60 with drinks for a family of 5, plus tip (would be $70+ here). The tax thing annoys me though, thank goodness it's included in our prices here! It also depends maybe on where you shopped; if it was a woolworths or coles it would have been cheaper than IGA or a 7/11 type place, but still it all adds up :teacher:

Anyway cannot wait to read more!
 
Your hotel room is fantastic and that's a great view you have.

Pity you got such a bum steer from the airport staff about the taxi price. Still, you didn't have to worry about dragging your bags around and having to deal with maps, trains and train stations when you were just newly arrived in Sssyydddnnneeeee (Hey that's spells Sydney!)



And dare I ask (again)......Where's Perry?


Looking forward to seeing Australia through your perspective.
 
Oh so happy that you have finally landed in Aus!

Now you see why us Aussies like to holiday in the US - our $ goes so much further (once you get past the airfares) - especially now our exchange rate is so good.

Its funny when I was planning my WDW trip and on the boards everyone was complaining about Disney restaurant prices - and I thought they were quite reasonable. We are planning a trip to Japan which seems to have a reputation for being incredibly expensive - but I imagine it will be comparable to Sydney.

But you are right - buying groceries from a convenience store in the city is always going to attract premium prices.

I think that's a big part of why Disney can keep the prices they charge and still be growing so much, by expanding it's international destination. Its not just Australia, but Canada, Europe, Asia. If the US dollar ever strengthens back to turn-of-the-century levels, they could be in trouble.

However, though Disney is expensive, it is not really any more expensive than what food costs throughout entertainment venues in the US. The only difference is you have to pay that cost for a whole week versus if you go to a sporting event for the day.

:wave2: hello! I'm one of the readers who haven't commented! I'm loving your TR so far, and cannot wait for the rest of the Australian part. I've lived in Australia my whole life and never been to Sydney so you've seen more than I have :thumbsup2

Interesting that 'our' food is much more expensive. I agree when we were in American we were mesmerised by how cheap everything was food wise - when we ate out it was maybe $60 with drinks for a family of 5, plus tip (would be $70+ here). The tax thing annoys me though, thank goodness it's included in our prices here! It also depends maybe on where you shopped; if it was a woolworths or coles it would have been cheaper than IGA or a 7/11 type place, but still it all adds up :teacher:

Anyway cannot wait to read more!

Well, welcome and thanks for commenting. I appreciate feedback from readers! I would say that even when you add tax and tip here in the states, the cost of eating out in Australia runs about 50 % more versus at least here in Buffalo, NY. (New York City would be a different story.) While in the end, I had some issues with the restaurant experience in Australia (which I will get to later), I really like the way you include the taxes in with the cost of everything. I don't know if it's because every state here has a different tax structure, and even in some states the different counties have different tax (all sales tax is broken into state and county taxes), but they just don't do that here and I wish they would. I also wish we would get rid of the penny like you have, and get $1 and $2 coins as well. Every time they try to put in $1 coins, its a farce because they don't get rid of the paper dollar. Stupid US Govt!

Your hotel room is fantastic and that's a great view you have.

Pity you got such a bum steer from the airport staff about the taxi price. Still, you didn't have to worry about dragging your bags around and having to deal with maps, trains and train stations when you were just newly arrived in Sssyydddnnneeeee (Hey that's spells Sydney!)



And dare I ask (again)......Where's Perry?


Looking forward to seeing Australia through your perspective.


Oh, I had it all mapped out how to get from the train station to the hotel, so I wouldn't have gotten lost. The problem was the 3 big bags we had, with only 2 adults to move them. I often had to drag two of the big ones, as they were too much for DD. It was hard enough to get her to move her two carry-ons. However, if I were to do it over, I still would've taken the train, but then taken a taxi from the train station to the hotel, which was only about 1/2 KM, and couldn't have cost more than $10.

No sign of Perry yet! Maybe tomorrow.

A-GENT P!
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And for fun Dr. D doing the macarena!
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I'm glad you had a mostly successful DL portion of your trip! That travel time & time between showers sounds like my worst nightmare! :rotfl2: I absolutely hate going more than 24 hours without a shower, but I guess when you are traveling so far to another country, certain sacrifices have to be made. That hotel room looks beautiful, and so cool that you could see the Opera House from your balcony! I bet seeing that in person was so amazing after only seeing it in pictures & Finding Nemo! :goodvibes

And who knew you could find good German food down under? :confused3 :thumbsup2


I don't know WHAT my daughter likes. She is the most frustrating kid you can imagine. Very stubborn and when she gets in the right mood, she simply doesn't want to do ANYTHING. The entire day can be a fight. There were times during this trip where we were so fed up with her. Fortunately, it seems like DW and I manage to get frustrated by her at different times, so usually the other one is there to calm the frustrated one down. Typically the issue at Disney is she does not like to try new things. We've gotten to the point at WDW where she's done just about everything there, though. However, with DL being entirely "New", combined with the Mattehorn / Indiana Jones / Splash Mountain experience on the first day just really turned her off to new things, which was really everything.

I recently asked her doctor if she could be mildly autistic. I've read a lot of TRs from folks with Autistic children, and I see some of that in her, easy to frustrate, sensitivity to excess stimulation (loud noises, crowds, 3-D movies), there's a lot of clothes we buy her she won't wear because they are "too itchy" even though they are as innocuous as like fleece sweaters. The doctor insisted she isn't though, that some kids are just more sensative than others. Since there are many aspects of autism she does not have, I have to beleive he's right.

I also think she is rather immature for her age, at least based on the behavior of her friends that are the same age. In a way its nice, because so many of these 9-year olds are already into "teen" things, and she is not, but at times I think she has a hard time fitting in because of it.

Not a psychologist by any means, but this kind of sounds like some kind of Sensory Processing Disorder...not necessarily autistic, but sort of in the same vein. A friend recently mentioned their daughter having SPD which got me looking into it as I'd never heard of it before. Of course, I do not know your daughter, just something that occurred to me when reading this response.
 
I'm glad you had a mostly successful DL portion of your trip! That travel time & time between showers sounds like my worst nightmare! :rotfl2: I absolutely hate going more than 24 hours without a shower, but I guess when you are traveling so far to another country, certain sacrifices have to be made. That hotel room looks beautiful, and so cool that you could see the Opera House from your balcony! I bet seeing that in person was so amazing after only seeing it in pictures & Finding Nemo! :goodvibes

And who knew you could find good German food down under? :confused3 :thumbsup2.

Yeah, I'm the same way, I need a shower every morning to function. It was pretty rough, but I think flying at night after 3 days at Disney was still the right move. Sleeping on an airplane is never fun, but it allowed us to be tired enough to get a decent amount of sleep. The other thing is, we did wash up/change clothes at the hotel before leaving for the airport in LA, so it wasn't like we had our sweaty park clothes all day.

The opera house was absolutely amazing. I will get to more details of that in a few more updates.


Not a psychologist by any means, but this kind of sounds like some kind of Sensory Processing Disorder...not necessarily autistic, but sort of in the same vein. A friend recently mentioned their daughter having SPD which got me looking into it as I'd never heard of it before. Of course, I do not know your daughter, just something that occurred to me when reading this response.

See, whenever I look at checklists of those type of things I go..."No she really doesn't have that to the degree described" Like she isn't real picky about her clothes, only certain sweaters she doesn't like for some reason. Same thing with the loud noises. She doesn't really mind crowds or parades or that, but just at Disney, as you know, some things are really, really loud. And dark. So I get where she's at with it, but I just feel like she's never gonna grow out of it. I want someone to ride the thrill rides with, Darnit!

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You did well to keep going so long after the long flight! and I feel like apologising on behalf of the airport dude giving you such a bum steer on the cab-we would have been ropeable he "neglected" to mention the cost of tolls on top. Your hotel room looks nice. I am not overly impressed with the Rocks area now though our first visit 20 or so years ago we liked it so not sure if its just age, familiarity and expectations or its lost some of its "soul". It used to have lots of good unusual shops, buskers etc; our last visit it seemed very quiet and just souvie shops. I do like the weekend markets there if we are there at the right time and the Opera House around to the Botanical Gardens. We also really like the Darling Harbour area and exploring the parks and walks around the north shore and other areas around the bay. Looking forward to hearing more about your experiences. Keep up the good work.
 
You did well to keep going so long after the long flight! and I feel like apologising on behalf of the airport dude giving you such a bum steer on the cab-we would have been ropeable he "neglected" to mention the cost of tolls on top. Your hotel room looks nice. I am not overly impressed with the Rocks area now though our first visit 20 or so years ago we liked it so not sure if its just age, familiarity and expectations or its lost some of its "soul". It used to have lots of good unusual shops, buskers etc; our last visit it seemed very quiet and just souvie shops. I do like the weekend markets there if we are there at the right time and the Opera House around to the Botanical Gardens. We also really like the Darling Harbour area and exploring the parks and walks around the north shore and other areas around the bay. Looking forward to hearing more about your experiences. Keep up the good work.


We really liked the rocks. I would agree the shops weren't the greatest - actually I only noticed a lot of really high end suff, but am not much of a shopper and we had VERy little weight in our suitcases for purchases. But the weekend we were there they had the Aroma Festival, which was a cofee/food tasting festival and made it very bustling. There were also lots of different restaurants to choose from. The location was very convenient to the train/ferries, so for someone without a vehicle that was a major plus.

Did you check to see which way the toilet drained?

You know, the toilets all are so powerful flushing I couldn't use them to spot the different direction. Even the sinks drained very quickly, so I had to stop up the sink and get some water in it. I have to say, while you can see it, it's not really a super noticable difference. The sun being in the northern portion of the sky took a lot longer to get used to, and probably only because "Cola" pointed it out to us!
 













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