I Am Having my ceilings painted, starting tomorrow.

DawnCt1

<font color=red>I had to wonder what "holiday" he
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The real estate agent recommended that we have our ceilings painted before listing our house. I know that this doesn't sound like a "big deal" but it is. We have 2 and a half story cathedral ceilings in the family room, living room and bedroom. The hallway connects directly to the ceiling in foyer, the stairway and the upstairs hallway and the dining room. I am also having a bathroom ceiling redone because the guy that patched it didn't do a very good job. I also have minor sheet rock repairs and a couple of cracks to be fixed. I had three estimates. The first, "Painter A", we had do the ceilings in three areas 20 years ago and the exterior of our house once. He has also worked in the neighborhood so we know him a little. The cost was $1800. It was a lot of work, we needed it due to a puff back with the oil burner. "Painter A" is meticulous but slowwwww. It took him 5 days to come to the house. He hasn't gotten back to me with the estimate. In fact, he spent 90 minutes at our house talking about paint, etc, etc, etc. I finally said, "lets walk to your truck and see if you have any paint samples". He would spray the paint on the ceiling. I still haven't received the estimate.

"Painter B" primarily is a painter but is familiar with using texture. He plans to roll the paint on the ceiling and will touch up the bathroom. He was slow to return phone calls, but did come within 3 days after he called back. He seemed to want the job but its been a week and no estimate in from him either.

"Painter C" had done work for one of my neighbors. They liked him personally and professionally. He returned my call right away. He would have come the next day but I already had another painter coming and I didn't want them to intersect. He came. I didn't have to point out the details of what needed to be done, he saw it right away. He said that the bathroom ceiling cannot be repaired, it needs to be redone. (I agree). He called me within 2 days with an estimate. He is experienced in drywall and he is French Canadian. They are EXCELLENT when it comes to drywall. He dresses meticulously. He isn't young but he isn't old. Right in the middle. His estimate is $2800 but I have large rooms, it will require a coat of sealer (Kilz) and 2 coats of paint and a lot of draping for the prep.

I feel funny not having the other estimates, but even if I had them in my hand, I can predict that painter A will be more expensive. I don't have a sense about Painter B, but even if the other two were less expensive, I feel that Painter C is the most competent and will do the best job. I am just surprised that he wants to start tomorrow. He does a lot of work down on the shore and he wants to take a break from that. He lives on his boat while he works down there. From the way he dresses, his car, now his boat, I would say he is successful, which means to me, he is good at his job. Would you hire someone without seeing the other estimates if you felt he was the best one? Its a first for me, but for the work involved I feel its a fair price.
 
The best thing about painter c is you have seen his work and know the people he worked with. And he returned your calls. We had a horrible experience with painters (had to have our brand new house painted twice inside they did such a bad job) so I am very cautious about hiring a painter. Having a slow painter would be horrible for the amount of space you are talking about!
 
If you think C will do the best work, that in itself is enough, but I would want to know how much A and B estimate just to make sure I wasn't being ripped off.

Why don't you call both of them and say that you need their estimates pronto so you can make your decision? If their numbers are within a few hundred of C, then you'll know for certain you've made the best choice.
 
If they aren't going to bother calling you back with an estimate, they probably won't bother showing up on time to work. I'd go with C.
 

If you think C will do the best work, that in itself is enough, but I would want to know how much A and B estimate just to make sure I wasn't being ripped off.

Why don't you call both of them and say that you need their estimates pronto so you can make your decision? If their numbers are within a few hundred of C, then you'll know for certain you've made the best choice.

Based on what we paid 20 years ago with painter A, I would assume that painter A will be more expensive. He is the type that, "well, if there was ever a water leak there, near your sky light, even 15 years ago, the ceiling could fall when we spray it, and then it would take 2 more hours added on, and then, and then....." Painter C, "well if that happens, I fix it".
Painter B feels confident that he can roll the ceiling with no streaks, etc. I am not so confident although Painter C said he could roll the ceiling perfectly, but "spraying better".
I guess just from a gut feeling, I like Painter C the best. We will see! Anyway, I have to pack up knick knacks, etc in the living room, and take down the window treatments. I also need to pick out 3 matching ceiling lights that I can live with if we don't move. Oh yeah, Painter A and B would paint around the "new ceiling lights". Painter C will drop the current lights, repair the ceiling under them and I can get what I want without rushing. Sounds good to me.
 
I'd go with C because he showed up. But I bet not all French Canadians are good with drywall.

I have never seen a French Canadian who does dry wall NOT be good, but of course the one's that don't do drywall wouldn't be very good at it, and that would include my relatives on my mother's side. They could probably spackle however. I am good at spackeling. ;). I wonder if its "inherited". ;)
 
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That actually seems cheap to me, but I am used to Fairfield County labor prices ..lol I would definately do it if he come highly recommended.
Good luck.
 
Go with C.

When DH & I were looking for builders to do some renovations, I was amazed at the number of people who would never call back, or come to take a look and thennever provide an estimate. We actually chose our builder because:

1. DH saw his truck in a local deli parking lot at lunchtime and the truck was meticulously clean, so DH figured his workers would keep a clean jobsite.
2. We called and he came over the next day, at the time he said he would arrive.
3. His estimate was also done and brought to us on the day he said it would be ready, which I think was about 2 days after his visit.

Our "gut" feeling wasn't wrong. He has done several renovations for us over the years, and we have become more "social" friends as well, and he is always professional when dealing with us on a business level, the work is well done, the jobsite is clean...he's a pleasure.
 
Another go for "C" response. His actions and his work apparently, give him the obvious edge. If it were so important to the other two contractors you would have had their estimate in hand already. I wouldn't give the other two a second thought. Hope this guy meets your expectations.
 

I know that is a commentary on my opinion, but some people from a particular demographic have skills that are handed down in the family and they become very good at what they do. This gentleman is also a carpenter, does renovations in kitchens and baths. I would guess most of us wouldn't bristle at the thought of those from an Italian background being excellent Italian cooks, although Greeks doing very well in that area too. Being 25% French Canadian, I believe that I am entitled to my opinion.
 
I know! I've always hired someone when I needed drywall, but next time I'm going to try it myself. I'm French-Canadian after all, it must be in my blood. :rolleyes:

I am part French-Canadian and I can't drywall, but if you think you can, go for it!:rolleyes: My SIL is 100% Italian but she isn't a very good cook. My brother is a much better cook. Not all stereotypes are true but some are true often enough.
 
i've always found a good resource in my local homeowners insurance agent for reccommendations.

i figure the insurance company has to do repairs and they are going to go with the guys who give the best work for the best value (and stand behind their work).


btw-we had to have our entire l/r, kitchen, den and hallway repainted this year due to roof damage last winter (only in the l/r but since we have the rounded edges on the walls the insurance company said their policy is to repaint all adjoining surfaces-no argument from me, i got to pick a color that's much nicer than new construction blah off white). i was surprised that the painter they hired wanted to roller the whole thing vs spraying it (would have taken much less time, and the insurance company would have paid him the same amount) but he did an amazing job. he said he wanted to do it that way to make sure he got paint into all the groves of the textured ceiling-and i have to say he was successfull. it looks great.
 
I am part French-Canadian and I can't drywall, but if you think you can, go for it!:rolleyes: My SIL is 100% Italian but she isn't a very good cook. My brother is a much better cook. Not all stereotypes are true but some are true often enough.

I'm part Irish. Think I'll start a potato farm tomorrow. :rotfl:
 
I'm part Irish. Think I'll start a potato farm tomorrow. :rotfl:

As am I but all of my tomatoes got tomato blight this summer. I don't think I can count on my green thumb. We do have a good friend however that is mostly Irish. He has done extremely well with his Irish Pub. that he opened up. His nationality, (Irish-American) adds authenticity to his venture.
 
I know that is a commentary on my opinion, but some people from a particular demographic have skills that are handed down in the family and they become very good at what they do. This gentleman is also a carpenter, does renovations in kitchens and baths. I would guess most of us wouldn't bristle at the thought of those from an Italian background being excellent Italian cooks, although Greeks doing very well in that area too. Being 25% French Canadian, I believe that I am entitled to my opinion.
Of course you are entitled.

It serves us all well to remember that sometimes the opinions that we express say more about ourselves than those we describe.
 
I know that is a commentary on my opinion, but some people from a particular demographic have skills that are handed down in the family and they become very good at what they do. This gentleman is also a carpenter, does renovations in kitchens and baths. I would guess most of us wouldn't bristle at the thought of those from an Italian background being excellent Italian cooks, although Greeks doing very well in that area too. Being 25% French Canadian, I believe that I am entitled to my opinion.

1) You didn't state it as an opinion, you stated it as a fact:

"I think that French Canadians are good at dry wall" is not the same thing as "They are EXCELLENT when it comes to drywall."

2) Your example (when you try to justify your statement) is not a fair comparison at all. Since Italian cooking is directly associated with being Italian, the thought that someone of Italian descent would be a good Italian cook, isn't totally random. Unlike your random association of drywall with French Canadians. If you stated the French Canadians can cook good Tourtiere, you may have had a point.

3) Being French Canadian (100%) with a brother married to another French Canadian (also 100%) I can state that no one in either family has any especial affinity for dry walling. Guess we are all missing that gene.
 
DH is a carpenter and does drywall. He is very good at it, and is not French-Canadian.

We hired a French-Canadian to do the drywall in our house to save time while we were renovating and living with FIL. DH had seen his work before and it was fine.

He did a TERRIBLE job on our house. Absolutely awful. We were horrified. DH fixed a lot of it, but couldn't fix it all without great expense.
 














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