How old is too old for a stroller?

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by sha_lyn
wdwdvcdad ... I think you missed a dose or 2 of your meds.
Calling parents names and insisting they are using dog leashes on their children is not a polite response.







you need to step into reality. I don't love dog leashes. Don't hate them either, and I don't use them on children. I have however used a child harness when needed.

Didn't call them names...until the delicate flower comment (ya see sweetie, it''s another little joke..try to keep up) If you used a harness, you used a lease...po-tay-toe vs po-ta-toe.

Boy, by the rapid response, it is almost like you were just waiting for me to respond! Love ya, mean it!


p.s. the "meds" line really hurt

 

[sha_lyn]

Didn't call them names...until the delicate flower comment (ya see sweetie, it''s another little joke..try to keep up) If you used a harness, you used a lease...po-tay-toe vs po-ta-toe.

You did plenty of name calling on the child harness thread.
A child harness is not a dog leash no matter how many times you repeat your nonsense.

Boy, by the rapid response, it is almost like you were just waiting for me to respond!

Your good old double standards at work again.

I can't post soon after you do, but you can post soon after I do

You can be rude, but I can't be rude back. Somehow that equates to me being rude to everyone.

 

[C.Ann]

Originally posted by wdwdvcdad

& no, I am not a marine. It is not an unusual phrase. I have a "no whining rule" I try to teach my kids. If something is wrong, we deal with it immediately (hot, tired, thirsty), but I'm not going to deal with whining & complaining. Then it is nap time. Look around the next time in WDW. The kids who would whine & complain about walking are usually the ones who are whining & complaining about something while they are in the stroller. But, the stroller is far better than the dog leashes Sha_lyn loves (as long as the kids are under 6....after than, they need to learn to hang tough).

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That's a pretty broad generalization, don't you think? We used a stroller for our granddaughter and she didn't "whine" in it OR out of it.. Being from the northeast and taking a little one to Florida in September we were more concerned for her health than anything else.. Between the heat and humidity, it was difficult for us adults to get around.. No need to subject a little one to that when there's a perfectly suitable solution to the problem..

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by sha_lyn
You did plenty of name calling on the child harness thread.
A child harness is not a dog leash no matter how many times you repeat your nonsense.



Your good old double standards at work again.

I can't post soon after you do, but you can post soon after I do

You can be rude, but I can't be rude back. Somehow that equates to me being rude to everyone.

I never said you can't post immediately after me. read more carefully. I noted it was interesting. As for my posting, I went back to re-read what I had posted, & there you were. I found it funny. As for the name calling, I'll post some threads:

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=557348&perpage=15&highlight=\+leash&pagenumber=2

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=544615&perpage=15&highlight=\\\\\\\\ leash&pagenumber=5

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=569403&perpage=15&highlight=\\\\ leash&pagenumber=4

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=416185&perpage=15&highlight=\\\\\\\\ leash&pagenumber=5

This one is from a debate board, so the parameters were a little different:

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=419703&perpage=15&highlight=\+leash&pagenumber=2

I did a search for the word "leash" and cross referenced it with my name. Those are the threads that came up. I read through each of them. now, if you read them, & put your emotional issues asside, you will see that I directly answered direct questions. Only when attacked, did I respond. Some got heated because my opinion to a direct question was viewed as a personal attack on people reading the thread. While I think leashes are a sign of poor parenting, I did not attack anyone about it. I responded as such only when the question was asked. I defended my position with the same zeal my attackers used to criticize me. So, before you spread any more LIES, I would appreciate an appology. Hurry, the nurse should be by with you 1:15 meds any second now. (that's just a little joke between sha_lyn & me..we're buddies)

 

[wdwdvcdad]

C.Ann,

your PM box is full. Tried to send you one.

 

[disneyjunkie]

For the people that say they would use a stroller for a child 5 and over, do your kids walk at home?

Since I live in NYC, we walk all the time. My neice has been walking around the Bronx zoo without a stroller since she was 3 years old.


WDWDVCDAD, I agree with you. If someone disagrees with the crowd on these "parenting at WDW threads," they tend to get attacked. When you state what YOU would do and why, for some reason people thinking you are saying they MUST do the samething.

On one of the leash threads I said I wouldn't use a leash on my child. I also said if it came down to using one or not going, I wouldn't go. Someone then posted they couldn't cancel the trip, and on and on and on. I never once said THEY shouldn't take the trip. I just said I wouldn't take it.

 

[Schmeck]

I'm of the type that if adults can handle a day at WDW without a ride, then my older children (5+) can handle it as well. But we're a very active, healthy family. Having many relatives with health issues because of their excessive weight makes me realize that in my family, we are just not good at carrying around extra weight. We've got heart conditions, arthritis, bursitis, and diabetes to look forward to if we don't stay very physically fit. So, we do a lot of walking, plus 4-5 hours of sports/dance each week. It helps that we live on a very steep hill, so that wherever we go, we have to walk back up the hill at the end, LOL!

I'm also very concerned with the obesity epidemic in this country - especially with young children. It seems like they're not given a choice about how they want to be, as they are not even starting out healthy. I was talking to a school nurse yesterday, and she had just finished up basic physical exams - eyes/ears/height/weight. She was depressed that so many students were in the obese category for their height!

I work at a high school, and so many students have health problems there, caused/magnified by their excess weight. A few students can't even manage the stairs, and have to have classes moved downstairs to accomodate them. Some can't even fit in the seats in the auditorium, without some pain/discomfort.

Of course, riding in a stroller at WDW is not the direct cause of any of these above mentioned issues, but if you stop and think about how physically fit your child is, or isn't, you'd be on the right track to helping him/her be a healthier adult.

Schmeck, stepping down from her soapbox

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by disneyjunkie
For the people that say they would use a stroller for a child 5 and over, do your kids walk at home?

Since I live in NYC, we walk all the time. My neice has been walking around the Bronx zoo without a stroller since she was 3 years old.


WDWDVCDAD, I agree with you. If someone disagrees with the crowd on these "parenting at WDW threads," they tend to get attacked. When you state what YOU would do and why, for some reason people thinking you are saying they MUST do the samething.

On one of the leash threads I said I wouldn't use a leash on my child. I also said if it came down to using one or not going, I wouldn't go. Someone then posted they couldn't cancel the trip, and on and on and on. I never once said THEY shouldn't take the trip. I just said I wouldn't take it.

Thank you. I am glad you see what I see.

SCHMECK,

 

[C.Ann]

Originally posted by wdwdvcdad
C.Ann,

your PM box is full. Tried to send you one.

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Sorry - I never remember to clean it out.. I think it's A-okay now though..

 

[C.Ann]

Originally posted by Schmeck
I'm of the type that if adults can handle a day at WDW without a ride, then my older children (5+) can handle it as well. But we're a very active, healthy family. Having many relatives with health issues because of their excessive weight makes me realize that in my family, we are just not good at carrying around extra weight. We've got heart conditions, arthritis, bursitis, and diabetes to look forward to if we don't stay very physically fit. So, we do a lot of walking, plus 4-5 hours of sports/dance each week. It helps that we live on a very steep hill, so that wherever we go, we have to walk back up the hill at the end, LOL!

I'm also very concerned with the obesity epidemic in this country - especially with young children. It seems like they're not given a choice about how they want to be, as they are not even starting out healthy. I was talking to a school nurse yesterday, and she had just finished up basic physical exams - eyes/ears/height/weight. She was depressed that so many students were in the obese category for their height!

I work at a high school, and so many students have health problems there, caused/magnified by their excess weight. A few students can't even manage the stairs, and have to have classes moved downstairs to accomodate them. Some can't even fit in the seats in the auditorium, without some pain/discomfort.

Of course, riding in a stroller at WDW is not the direct cause of any of these above mentioned issues, but if you stop and think about how physically fit your child is, or isn't, you'd be on the right track to helping him/her be a healthier adult.

Schmeck, stepping down from her soapbox

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My granddaughter walks with my DD every single day (if it's not raining or snowing) a minimum of a mile or two.. Twelve days of walking in WDW, Sea World and US/IOA in the extreme heat and humidity of Florida for upwords of 9 hours a day is an entirely different scenario..

We have taken her to the Bronx Zoo - for the day - the Great Escape (fairly large amusement park in upstate NY) for the day - and have never used a stroller because it wasn't necessary for either her comfort or her health.. Comparing those types of outings to a trip to WDW is like comparing apples and oranges.. Totally different situations..

 

[C.Ann]

Originally posted by Schmeck
I'm also very concerned with the obesity epidemic in this country - especially with young children. It seems like they're not given a choice about how they want to be, as they are not even starting out healthy. I was talking to a school nurse yesterday, and she had just finished up basic physical exams - eyes/ears/height/weight. She was depressed that so many students were in the obese category for their height!

I work at a high school, and so many students have health problems there, caused/magnified by their excess weight. A few students can't even manage the stairs, and have to have classes moved downstairs to accomodate them. Some can't even fit in the seats in the auditorium, without some pain/discomfort.

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This has absolutely nothing to do with small children riding in strollers and everything to do with feeding kids a steady diet of junk food and allowing them to sit in front of computers playing video games for every spare minute of their lives.. Whatever happened to going outside to play after school? Or sitting down to a home cooked meal rather than one from McDonald's? If you're looking for the cause of childhood obesity, those are the areas you need to be focusing on..

 

[Disney_1derland]

Well, this is probably one of the most heated topics I've seen on these boards. I think it comes down to knowing your child. We have a 2 year old and a 4 year old. We are still struggling with whether or not we'll need a double stroller. For me, there are many other factors that go into this decision. It is a personal decision and it's unlikely that anyone will say anything to you in the parks if they disagree with your older child riding in a stroller. After all, that wouldn't be a very magical way to behave in a place where all we want to do is have a beautiful, magical vacation.

Know your child, know their limitations and be prepared to handle it if necessary. I think we are down to the point that we will be taking a single stroller for our 2 year old that is big enough for our 4 year old. If at some point she gets tired or wants to ride, the two year old will be more than happy to trade places for a bit. I am a themepark commando, but don't expect my small children to be so if they get tired, we will go and rest. we are staying on property for that reason alone.

On another note, take your child on a good long walk and see how they do. My 4 year old walks all the time, hasn't been in a stroller in two years. She doesn't mind strollers, just doesn't see the need for one. We are fairly active and most of our activities involve walking. She can do the one mile loop at our zoo twice without even sitting down. On days where we hit the high 80's and it's humid after one spin around the loop she's ready to go home. Florida is much more extreme than that at most points of the year and so I'm anticipating having to take it easy on her. BUT....also factor in how much time you spend sitting on rides, sitting down to eat, standing in lines, etc. It's not straight walking, there are a lot of opportunities to sit.

Wow-sorry for the long post. Thank you to all of you for helping me sort out our needs for our upcoming November trip.

 

[DisneyMomx7]

One of the things that offends parents like me who decide to use strollers for "older"kids is the insinuation that our kids are overweight, out of shape kids. If you saw my three you would know they are definitely in shape and in no way, shape or form overweight. In fact we are very healthy eaters, not much junk. However, my kids are all on the small side. DD who will be turning 7 is only 42" and 39 lbs (as you can see not overweight), their legs are short and they have a hard time keeping up. It is not just running around like they do at home in the backyard or in a playground. We would like to travel at more than a snail's pace so the stroller's work for us. What I really can't understand is why some people are so judgmental about what other parents decide. We all do things differently as parents. As long as we're all trying to be good parents (not abusive) why does anyone care if we do things differently than you. I use the strollers for my convenience, and I really don't care if you think your 4 or 5 year olds are too big. By the way, I have older kids also (kids range from 27-3) and they all grow up too quickly anyway so I wouldn't worry about making them little adults too soon.

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by DisneyMomx7
One of the things that offends parents like me who decide to use strollers for "older"kids is the insinuation that our kids are overweight, out of shape kids. If you saw my three you would know they are definitely in shape and in no way, shape or form overweight. In fact we are very healthy eaters, not much junk. However, my kids are all on the small side. DD who will be turning 7 is only 42" and 39 lbs (as you can see not overweight), their legs are short and they have a hard time keeping up. It is not just running around like they do at home in the backyard or in a playground. We would like to travel at more than a snail's pace so the stroller's work for us. What I really can't understand is why some people are so judgmental about what other parents decide. We all do things differently as parents. As long as we're all trying to be good parents (not abusive) why does anyone care if we do things differently than you. I use the strollers for my convenience, and I really don't care if you think your 4 or 5 year olds are too big. By the way, I have older kids also (kids range from 27-3) and they all grow up too quickly anyway so I wouldn't worry about making them little adults too soon.

If you read the post, the OP is asking a question. Answering it is not an attack or being "judgemental" unless you chose to take it as such. I don't care what you do, I was answering a question

 

[TerriBelle]

I have never understood why this topic gets so heated! Sometimes people just want a variety of opinions on using a stroller but for some reason it always turns personal!

We have no marines in our family but we have made the kids walk. When my daughter was 6 we were pushing around her two year old twin brothers. There was no way I was going to get another stroller. We talked to her about being a "big kid" and she was fine. She loved the wild rides so we said that only big kids that walked could ride the big rides. This worked great! She never once complained about walking.

When the twins were two months from turning 5, we forgot their umbrella strollers. We got to the airport and realized that we had left them at home. I was upset but the boys said " Mom, Why would we need a stroller? We never use one any more!" They did great walking. We did rent a double stroller one day near the end of the trip.

Our family always stays on-site and we usually take swim breaks in the middle of the day.

 

[phamton]

I'm still trying to figure out how all the adults on here stay in such great shape. Like I mentioned in my previous post, my kids have more stamina than me. They are the ones dragging me from attraction to attraction. I'm ready to drop at the end of the day and they are still going strong.

 

[marcyinPA]

Originally posted by DisneyMomx7
One of the things that offends parents like me who decide to use strollers for "older"kids is the insinuation that our kids are overweight, out of shape kids. If you saw my three you would know they are definitely in shape and in no way, shape or form overweight. In fact we are very healthy eaters, not much junk. However, my kids are all on the small side. DD who will be turning 7 is only 42" and 39 lbs (as you can see not overweight), their legs are short and they have a hard time keeping up. It is not just running around like they do at home in the backyard or in a playground. We would like to travel at more than a snail's pace so the stroller's work for us. What I really can't understand is why some people are so judgmental about what other parents decide. We all do things differently as parents. As long as we're all trying to be good parents (not abusive) why does anyone care if we do things differently than you. I use the strollers for my convenience, and I really don't care if you think your 4 or 5 year olds are too big. By the way, I have older kids also (kids range from 27-3) and they all grow up too quickly anyway so I wouldn't worry about making them little adults too soon.

I was thinking the same thing. I used a stroller for my small and FIT and very active 5 y/o. To insinuate that he may be overweight or out of shape just gets my goat! We brought and used the stroller in case he fell asleep at the end of the day! I had to laugh at all of those parents schlepping around sleeping children (some very large and heavy children at that!) at the end of the day, on to the bus and back to the room. When mine fell asleep, he was in his stroller and we just had to lift him out and hold him on the bus. Thank goodness my dh or I didn't have to lug him from the back of a park to the bus stop! I think I would have needed one of those carts (which, by the way, I got run over by more than once!!)

The OP asked for opinions on whether or not to use a stroller for an older child. It got nasty when people started equating stroller use with obesity. Sometimes its just better to say nothing at all....

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by marcyinPA
I was thinking the same thing. I used a stroller for my small and FIT and very active 5 y/o. To insinuate that he may be overweight or out of shape just gets my goat! We brought and used the stroller in case he fell asleep at the end of the day! I had to laugh at all of those parents schlepping around sleeping children (some very large and heavy children at that!) at the end of the day, on to the bus and back to the room. When mine fell asleep, he was in his stroller and we just had to lift him out and hold him on the bus. Thank goodness my dh or I didn't have to lug him from the back of a park to the bus stop! I think I would have needed one of those carts (which, by the way, I got run over by more than once!!)

The OP asked for opinions on whether or not to use a stroller for an older child. It got nasty when people started equating stroller use with obesity. Sometimes its just better to say nothing at all....

What SCHMECK said was

Of course, riding in a stroller at WDW is not the direct cause of any of these above mentioned issues, but if you stop and think about how physically fit your child is, or isn't, you'd be on the right track to helping him/her be a healthier adult.

It was not equating obesity to a stroller. People, please read before you get sooooo defensive.

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by TerriBelle
I have never understood why this topic gets so heated! Sometimes people just want a variety of opinions on using a stroller but for some reason it always turns personal!

We have no marines in our family but we have made the kids walk. When my daughter was 6 we were pushing around her two year old twin brothers. There was no way I was going to get another stroller. We talked to her about being a "big kid" and she was fine. She loved the wild rides so we said that only big kids that walked could ride the big rides. This worked great! She never once complained about walking.

When the twins were two months from turning 5, we forgot their umbrella strollers. We got to the airport and realized that we had left them at home. I was upset but the boys said " Mom, Why would we need a stroller? We never use one any more!" They did great walking. We did rent a double stroller one day near the end of the trip.

Our family always stays on-site and we usually take swim breaks in the middle of the day.

 

[JESW]

Do what's best for your family. Our kids are 5 & 9. Last trip we used a stroller was when the youngest was almost 4. She is the type that wouldn't use one because she said they are for babies. Well, DS on the other hand, at 9, would still be in one if we let him.

One thing about the doubles....I see many folks having trouble trying to navigate them around the parks and in the stores they can be a nightmare. Just a thought.

Have fun and enjoy yourself no matter what you choose!

Jill