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Sheesh! I hope this one works! :teeth:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/04/0420_040420_earthday.html








Never mind! I can't get it to work. :rolleyes: Why can't we delete our own threads any longer?????????????????

I remember discussing this in my Earth Science class during my first semester two years ago. Interesting!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/04/0420_040420_earthday.html#main

Yikes! The DIS is changing my link from all of it below to part of it being ... :eek: If you copy and paste what's below with http:// before, you can probably get it.

news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/04/0420_040420_earthday.html%23main


UGH! HERE'S THE STORY, BUT WITHOUT THE COOL MAP OF EVERYTHING FROM ABOVE FT. LAUDERDALE DOWN UNDER WATER!

Warming to Cause Catastrophic Rise in Sea Level?

Stefan Lovgren
for National Geographic News
Updated April 26, 2004

Most scientists agree that global warming presents the greatest threat to the environment.

There is little doubt that the Earth is heating up. In the last century the average temperature has climbed about 0.6 degrees Celsius (about 1 degree Fahrenheit) around the world.

From the melting of the ice cap on Mount Kilimanjaro, Africa's tallest peak, to the loss of coral reefs as oceans become warmer, the effects of global warming are often clear.




However, the biggest danger, many experts warn, is that global warming will cause sea levels to rise dramatically. Thermal expansion has already raised the oceans 4 to 8 inches (10 to 20 centimeters). But that's nothing compared to what would happen if, for example, Greenland's massive ice sheet were to melt.

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Florida sea level map

Using computer models, scientists have created a series of maps that show areas susceptible to rises in sea level. The above map shows that a 6-meter (20-foot) rise would swamp Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Tampa, and the entire Florida coastline, in addition to parts of Orlando and other inland areas.

Image created by Jonathan Overpeck and Jeremy Weiss, courtesy University of Arizona Department of Geosciences Environmental Studies Laboratory

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"The consequences would be catastrophic," said Jonathan Overpeck, director of the Institute for the Study of Planet Earth at the University of Arizona in Tucson. "Even with a small sea level rise, we're going to destroy whole nations and their cultures that have existed for thousands of years."

Overpeck and his colleagues have used computer models to create a series of maps that show how susceptible coastal cities and island countries are to the sea rising at different levels. The maps show that a 1-meter (3-foot) rise would swamp cities all along the U.S. eastern seaboard. A 6-meter (20-foot) sea level rise would submerge a large part of Florida.

Uncertainties

Just as the evidence is irrefutable that temperatures have risen in the last century, it's also well established that carbon dioxide in the Earth's atmosphere has increased about 30 percent, enhancing the atmosphere's ability to trap heat.

The exact link, if any, between the increase in carbon dioxide emissions and the higher temperatures is still under debate.

Most scientists believe that humans, by burning fossil fuels such as coal and petroleum, are largely to blame for the increase in carbon dioxide. But some scientists also point to natural causes, such as volcanic activity.

"Many uncertainties surround global warming," said Ronald Stouffer at the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory in Princeton, New Jersey. "How much of it would still occur if humans were not modifying the climate in any way?"

The current rate of warning is unprecedented, however. It is apparently the fastest warming rate in millions of years, suggesting it probably is not a natural occurrence. And most scientists believe the rise in temperatures will in fact accelerate. The United Nations-sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reported in 2001 that the average temperature is likely to increase by between 1.4 and 5.8 degrees Celsius (2.5 and 10.4 degrees Fahrenheit) by the year 2100.

The climate change is likely to impact ecosystems, agriculture, and the spread of disease. An international study published in the science journal Nature earlier this year predicted that climate change could drive more than a million species towards extinction by the year 2050.

"Global warming is a serious threat to biodiversity," said Jay Malcolm, a forestry professor at the University of Toronto. "As climates warm, more southerly species will begin appearing further north, and species that occur at lower altitudes will start showing up at higher altitudes … species will find themselves in habitats where they don't belong."

Underwater

Glaciers and sea ice in both the Northern and Southern Hemispheres are already melting at a rapid pace, placing animals like polar bears at risk.

"Polar bears are entirely dependent on sea ice," Malcolm said. "You lose sea ice, you lose polar bears."

So far, the rise in sea level is because warmer water takes up more room than colder water, which makes sea levels go up, a process known as thermal expansion.

"The real question is what's going to happen to Greenland and Antarctica," Stouffer said. "That's where the bulk of all the fresh water is tied up."

A recent Nature study suggested that Greenland's ice sheet will begin to melt if the temperature there rises by 3 degrees Celsius (5.4 degrees Fahrenheit). That is something many scientists think is likely to happen in another hundred years.

The complete melting of Greenland would raise sea levels by 7 meters (23 feet). But even a partial melting would cause a one-meter (three-foot) rise. Such a rise would have a devastating impact on low-lying island countries, such as the Indian Ocean's Maldives, which would be entirely submerged.

Densely populated areas like the Nile Delta and parts of Bangladesh would become uninhabitable, potentially driving hundreds of millions of people from their land.

A one-meter sea level rise would wreak particular havoc on the Gulf Coast and eastern seaboard of the United States.

"No one will be free from this," said Overpeck, whose maps show that every U.S. East Coast city from Boston to Miami would be swamped. A one-meter sea rise in New Orleans, Overpeck said, would mean "no more Mardi Gras."

Other scientists emphasize that such doomsday scenarios may be hundreds of years in the future.

"You can't say with any certainty that sea level rises are going to have a huge impact on society," Stouffer said. "Who knows what the planet will look like 500 years from now?"

Future Generations

Most climate scientists, however, agree that global warming is a threat that has gone unchecked for too long.

"Is society aware of the seriousness of climate warning? I don't think so," said Marianne Douglas, a geology professor at the University of Toronto. "If we were, we'd all be leading our lives differently. We'd see a society that embraced alternative sources of energy, with less dependency on fossil fuels."

Overpeck says passing on the problem of global warming to future generations is like ignoring a government budget deficit. "Except with the deficit, there are economic mechanisms that could be put in place to get out of the large deficit," he said. "With sea level rise, there's really no technological way to put the ice back on Greenland."
 

Well, I can rest assured that Chicago and Orlando were safe!::yes::
 
Okay, I have a question. This may seem like a stupid question but I will ask it anyway...

When you have ice cubes or a frozen mass inside of liquid and that mass melts...the water does not rise because that mass is already in the water. Why would the polar ice caps be any different. I understand there are other areas that are not in water already (i.e. Kilimanjaro) but a good portion is. Is there a reason why those areas would not follow this rule? Besides I don't think water coming off Kilimanjaro would get far.

Granted, I'm not a scientist and I don't doubt global warming will have other numerous consequences...I just don't see massive water rising to be one of the biggest concerns.

I'm just a housewife from Indiana though...what do I know. ;)
 
Good to see Orlando is safe.

Bridget, #1DisneyFan is finished with her engineering schooling and around here tonight. She'll be able to answer you. Not sure we will understand her, but I bet she knows.
 
Originally posted by Dan Murphy

Bridget, #1DisneyFan is finished with her engineering schooling and around here tonight. She'll be able to answer you. Not sure we will understand her, but I bet she knows.

This isn't exactly my field of Engineering, but combined with my course this term on Ecology and the Environment (we did actually cover Global Warming), Physics, and a confirmation from Google, I can answer the question.

You are absolutely correct, Bridget, with the description of the melting ice cube not adding to the water. For this reason, if icebergs floating in the Arctic were to melt, the sea level would not rise, because the ice is already in the water.

However! Global warming can still contribute to sea levels rising for a number of reasons:

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1. First of all, at the South Pole as opposed to the North Pole, most of the ice is not in the water but rather is actually sitting on land... so this mass is not currently in the sea. If it melts, it would run into the sea causing it to rise.

2. Also, if the temperature rises, more glaciers could break off of landmasses and fall into the ocean, adding more mass and cause the level to rise.

3. Lastly, water is most dense at 4 degrees C. (At both hotter and colder temperatures, water expands and takes up a larger amount of space). So, if the temperature of the water continually rises, the water will expand due to this property and take up more space... causing oceans and sea levels to rise.

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Oh... and for the comments that a certain city is safe... not to burst your bubble, but not entirely true. Even if the city itself is not eroded by the rising sea, it can still suffer major effects of climate changes as a result... such as: more severe storms and droughts, scarcer rainfall on industrial lands and entire ecosystms thrown out of balance. Warmer temperatures could allow for disease-carrying bugs to live in places where they were unable to before. Also, up to hundreds of millions of people would be forced to relocate out of unlivable locations and there would be even more crowding. Pretty scary stuff!

I learned a lot this term in my Environment course that I didn't know before, and it is scary how much the public is really not very aware of all of the problems we are facing (not only with Global Warming, but also things like pollution, water quality, energy use, pesticide use etc). Companies are maximizing profits, but at what expense? The course (as much as I complained about Engineers having to take it :p ;) ) ... was really an eye opener to a lot of things. This generation will really need to take a stand and change things in order for ecological sustainability into the next centuries.

How'd I do, Dan?

PS... I can't believe it's only a week after my degree is finished and I'm pulling my books back out in front of me already, LOL! :teeth:
 
Well, with all due respect to global warming...I could use a little of it right now! It is 36 degrees in Chicago!!!!!!
 
Originally posted by #1 Disney Fan


.........How'd I do, Dan?

PS... I can't believe it's only a week after my degree is finished and I'm pulling my books back out in front of me already, LOL! :teeth:
Sounds like you covered it pretty darn well. And again, congratulations for finishing your degree work, Lynne. :wave2:
 





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