How does vandalism and looting accomplish anything???

[OurBigTrip]

Why is Eric Holder getting involved in this? Three autosopies? Really?

I think they're still stinging over the Trayvon Martin case, so he wants to make sure that if charges aren't brought against Wilson, or if he's tried and acquitted, the DoJ can jump right in and immediately charge him with civil rights violations.

 

[Suger Mag]

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I'm waiting for the Toxiology report, that should be interesting. Another piece of the puzzle.

Me too, The results will be more data. These can take a couple of weeks... a tests for one substance may take longer than another test for a different substance ( I do clinical research) Also there is a difference between having traces of a drug in your system and being "under the influence" at that moment. For example a statement like "traces of marijuana" can be misleading, because it could be he smoked a joint a week ago. THC is fat soluble it is detectable in your system (urine) for up to a month... depending upon dosage and quantity of course. Other drugs can leave your system quicker... however a hair test will tell everything you have done (or been done to you) for as long as your hair has been growing.

 

[penn19]

Exactly.

God, you just wish you could turn the clock back and give Michael Brown another chance to choose to just get out of the street and onto the damned sidewalk when Officer Wilson told him to.

If you know you just robbed a store, why would you bring attention to yourself by walking down the middle of the street? And once you've done that, and a police officer stops and tells you to get back on the sidewalk, why wouldn't you?

Not the same story, but they just interviewed a Police Chief in Philadelphia. They were showing some angry skateboarders and one of them was kicking the snot out of a Park Ranger who had the audacity to tell them hey you can't skate in this park. The skaters apparently took offense and being told not to do something by a person of authority. Stomped on his head, spit on him etc…Anyway, the Police Chief said kids today that they deal with on a daily basis do not care. And this is what they have to deal with. He said but let that same kid get a scratch on him and he cries police brutality.

So I think that some people (not saying Michael Brown) do not care what anyone in authority tells them to do. And why should they? There are people on this thread that seem to teach their kids to not respect people in authority.

 

[Disneychick75]

You know something that annoys me? 2 days after Wilson shot Brown, an African-American cop, Hudson, shot an unarmed Caucasian man, Gaynier, who charged at him in Dallas. Gaynier has a rap sheet as some have said Brown had. Have we seen riots, looting, and charges of racism? No.

 

[CPT Tripss]

I'm not buying anything Johnson says as many of his statements have already proven false. I'm not sure he even saw what happened.

Both head shots to me indicate Brown falling forward at the time of the shots.

An ex-Special forces soldier who is now a firearms instructor explained the head shots something like this.

Wilson's shot to the top of Brown's head show Brown was moving forward. The shot to the face would have made his head go back and if he was a smaller person, he might have fallen backward but he didn't. This indicates that his center of gravity was ahead of his toes, meaning Brown was moving forward at considerable speed. The faster a person runs, the further in front of his center of mass his center of gravity will be.

And this is also consistent with someone getting into the prone position.

 

[penn19]

You know something that annoys me? 2 days after Wilson shot Brown, an African-American cop, Hudson, shot an unarmed Caucasian man, Gaynier, who charged at him in Dallas. Gaynier has a rap sheet as some have said Brown had. Have we seen riots, looting, and charges of racism? No.

I live near Dallas and I didn't hear about this!

 

[Gumbo4x4]

maybe he could leap a building in a single bound too.

I mean really.. Comparing him to a deer or Olympic sprinter (a few posts above) is reaching. If his head is down for the head shots then he's either charging the cop like a bull (after being shot several times already) or falling over (after being shot several times already).

Oh please. I compared him to an animal 1/2 his size being shot with a much more powerful gun.

And in the sprinter comment, I gave him the benefit of the doubt by saying he was HALF as fast as a sprinter. If he passed his HS PE class, he's faster than that.


I also compared him to much smaller humans hit with the same bullet Wh didn't stop coming either. But, I notice you don't want to talk about that part.


I agree on the head shots, as I've said previously. The other comments are in regards to why the arm shots wouldn't have "instantly dropped him".

 

[Disneychick75]

And this is also consistent with someone getting into the prone position.

The only way the shot would have traveled to Brown's collar bone the way it did if he was prone would have been if Wilson was standing over him and shooting directly down into his head. No one said the shooting happened this way. I believe most eyewitnesses said Brown was running towards Wilson, except for Johnson whose lies have been consistently exposed. The only thing proven true so far was they stole the "rellos".
If Brown was running forward and his head was forward for momentum, the shot would have gone into the top of his head and moved toward his collar bone.

 

[brunette8706]

Me too, The results will be more data. These can take a couple of weeks... a tests for one substance may take longer than another test for a different substance ( I do clinical research) Also there is a difference between having traces of a drug in your system and being "under the influence" at that moment. For example a statement like "traces of marijuana" can be misleading, because it could be he smoked a joint a week ago. THC is fat soluble it is detectable in your system (urine) for up to a month... depending upon dosage and quantity of course. Other drugs can leave your system quicker... however a hair test will tell everything you have done (or been done to you) for as long as your hair has been growing.[/QUOTE]

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Hi! Oh that is really interesting. I never thought about that. Thanks for posting about it.

 

[Disneychick75]

I live near Dallas and I didn't hear about this!

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2014/08/dallas-police-investigating-officer-involved-shooting.html/

 

[sunshinehighway]

Oh please. I compared him to an animal 1/2 his size being shot with a much more powerful gun.

And in the sprinter comment, I gave him the benefit of the doubt by saying he was HALF as fast as a sprinter. If he passed his HS PE class, he's faster than that.


I also compared him to much smaller humans hit with the same bullet Wh didn't stop coming either. But, I notice you don't want to talk about that part.


I agree on the head shots, as I've said previously. The other comments are in regards to why the arm shots wouldn't have "instantly dropped him".

Who said the arm shots would have " instantly dropped him. I doubt anyway is saying that but are more likely trying to say he wouldn't have been still charging the cop after being shot several times. This guy wasn't the Incredible Hulk. The arm shots might not have dropped him instantly but they certainly would have stopped any charging.

 

[brunette8706]

I think they're still stinging over the Trayvon Martin case, so he wants to make sure that if charges aren't brought against Wilson, or if he's tried and acquitted, the DoJ can jump right in and immediately charge him with civil rights violations.

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[sunshinehighway]

The only way the shot would have traveled to Brown's collar bone the way it did if he was prone would have been if Wilson was standing over him and shooting directly down into his head. No one said the shooting happened this way. I believe most eyewitnesses said Brown was running towards Wilson, except for Johnson whose lies have been consistently exposed. The only thing proven true so far was they stole the "rellos".
If Brown was running forward and his head was forward for momentum, the shot would have gone into the top of his head and moved toward his collar bone.

How you actually think after being shot several times in the arm and once through his eye, Brown then lowered his head and charged the cop?

 

[Disneychick75]

Who said the arm shots would have " instantly dropped him. I doubt anyway is saying that but are more likely trying to say he wouldn't have been still charging the cop after being shot several times. This guy wasn't the Incredible Hulk. The arm shots might not have dropped him instantly but they certainly would have stopped any charging.

But the shots didn't stop him. An eyewitness said that he thought Wilson kept missing Brown because Brown didn't stop. Baden said the head shots would have been the last ones which makes perfect sense.

 

[OurBigTrip]

How you actually think after being shot several times in the arm and once through his eye, Brown then lowered his head and charged the cop?

The shot to the eye would have to have come after his head was lowered, be it due to charging (which I doubt) or falling (which I think is most likely).

 

[Disneychick75]

How you actually think after being shot several times in the arm and once through his eye, Brown then lowered his head and charged the cop?

It isn't what I think, it's what eyewitnesses said.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

Who said the arm shots would have " instantly dropped him. I doubt anyway is saying that but are more likely trying to say he wouldn't have been still charging the cop after being shot several times. This guy wasn't the Incredible Hulk. The arm shots might not have dropped him instantly but they certainly would have stopped any charging.

The poster I replied to earlier indicated a Glock 19 or 22 should require only 1 shot to stop him, even if hit in the arm.

We have no Idea what impact the arm shots would have had. BUT, the final 2 shots to the head would be consistent with Brown falling forward - perhaps being knocked down by the initial 4 shots. Once those initial shots were fired, there was no turnig back.

Either all the shots are justified or none of them.

 

[sunshinehighway]

The shot to the eye would have to have come after his head was lowered, be it due to charging (which I doubt) or falling (which I think is most likely).

So you believe he was falling when the head shots occurred? You realize what that means you are saying, right?

 

[sunshinehighway]

The poster I replied to earlier indicated a Glock 19 or 22 should require only 1 shot to stop him, even if hit in the arm.

We have no Idea what impact the arm shots would have had. BUT, the final 2 shots to the head would be consistent with Brown falling forward - perhaps being knocked down by the initial 4 shots. Once those initial shots were fired, there was no turnig back.

Either all the shots are justified or none of them.

Once he is no longer an immediate threat, an officer is supposed to stop shooting. If he was falling before the head shots then they weren't justified. You might not agree with that but that's the way it is. Later I'll try to find an article I read explaining it. It's a pretty neutral article that just explains how cops are supposed to handle a situation and decide to use their gun.

 

[Patch'sD]

As with the release of the Store Video of Mike Brown, the release of the Second Autopsy was to try the case in the media. Detailing Six Shots will incite more violence. Since the partial Autopsy might back-up the Eye Witness acounts of the Shooting. The Private Corner could not say if Brown was facing forward or backward.

I wonder where the outrage is for the Pregant Woman Knocked out by a Thug just walking down the block. Where is the outrage for the Philly Park Ranger beat up by the skateboarders for telling them they can't Skateboard in the park. Will there be more High Ranking Political figures calling for Justice in these cases. There is no respect for the law, personal property, or others. Lets see who gets the blame for these other Violent acts.