How does sharing a meal and getting a drink at BOG breakfast work?...

[jacinda824]

Maybe grab a sandwich from Sleepy Hollow then? Or something light from Starbucks? Then you you can enjoy dinner at BoG at a time when you feel like eating more.

Your post shows whats going on. Its not that you are light eaters or hate wasting food. Its the cost. The sentence "We hate wasting food and can only justfy the exorbitant cost is by splitting plates." says it all. If the issue is being a light eater or wasting food, why is cost even a factor?

At least you are honest. Because the cost really is the bulk of the problem here and other excuses are being thrown around instead. I get that the meal is overpriced for many peoples opinion (including mine). I get that we all want to save money. But the actions of splitting plates and taking free drinks (for those doing it) penalize full paying patrons. How?

When you split a meal you are taking up a seat that could (and would) be used by a person who orders a meal. In 2 seats, Disney is getting paid for 1 meal whereas they should be getting paid for 2. This is not McDonalds where you can just run in and hang with your friends and not eat. Its an overwhelmingly popular restaurant where seating is very hard to come by (using "you" in a general sense here). How does Disney react? They up the price for everyone (which they just did).

Just because its happening doesn't mean its allowed. It means that Disney is working on a solution to the problem and it hasn't been implemented yet. We know right from wrong and the well Disney is allowing it excuse is just that.....an excuse. If this trend keeps happening, BoG will be another restaurant you pay in full for when you book. Is that what people want? Disney isn't going to keep giving away drinks for free. They aren't going to keep serving a tray of pastries for a party of 4 who orders 1 childs meal (yes, someone in another thread said their party of 4 adults split 1 childs meal and shared the tray of pastries and all 4 had coffee). Four people had breakfast for $11.99. Anyone with a brain will know Disney is going to put a stop to that.

Its really simple to just eat somewhere else for breakfast and then go to BoG at lunch or dinner where you can at least order and pay for your own drink. People feel so entitled now days. It blows my mind.

I slightly have an issue with some of your logic in regards to "When you split a meal you are taking up a seat that could (and would) be used by a person who orders a meal. In 2 seats, Disney is getting paid for 1 meal whereas they should be getting paid for 2." especially. I had stomach bypass surgery 11 years ago. I still ONLY eat 6 - 8oz a food TOTAL at a meal. My husband and I ALWAYS split. By your logic, we should pay for two meals because I am occupying a seat? I CANNOT drink alcohol or anything carbonated so I would order therefore no problem on the extra drink issue. I also HATE coffee. I don't feel that my not paying for a bunch of extra food is NOT penalizing anyone.

I also don't understand why I should have to "Its really simple to just eat somewhere else for breakfast and then go to BoG at lunch or dinner where you can at least order and pay for your own drink. People feel so entitled now days. It blows my mind.". I WILL NEVER be able to eat anymore than that. By the above logic, I should never eat at BOG or anywhere else on property. When I go for lunch or dinner to BOG, we order one entree and the french onion soup. WHY? Because the SOUP fills me UP completely!!! Should I pay an additional $20 to order a drink I cant drink and an entree I wont eat?

Sorry but your post REALLY offended me.

 

[jacinda824]

REALLY?? LOL! This might be the strangest post in this thread.

Do you eat dramatically faster if you split a meal?

Does the server not make the same number of trips to your table?

Did Disney know you somehow planned to finish faster and therefore take an extra reservation?


This logic has some major flaws

As for the taking of the extra beverages, well at least we know why the price went up, they just built it in.

In theory you would finish faster cause two people are eating from one plate and not eating from two. So yes, you would be done quicker. If you bought a bag of jellybeans and you shared it with someone, would they not be eaten faster than if you bought two bags of jellybeans and each ate one bag? Math is pretty hard to argue!

Yes, the server does make extra trips to the table and if they are a good server, we ALWAYS tip on what would have been two meals and not one. For example, if each entree costs $20, we tip on $40 worth of service even though our bill was $20. I am VERY fair.

 

[3Gsandme]

For me, I see two separate issues. There are people who split meals everywhere because it's a legitimate need and there are people looking to be cheap. You know which you are (you, generally). There isn't an option to order extra drinks because a prix fixe meal is intended to be the same charge for everyone and is inclusive. Yes, they're giving away fountain drinks "for free" because there's not a work around. Disney will close that loophole.

The problem as I see it, for Disney, is that you will certainly have occasional people like the poster who had gastric bypass and cannot eat anything close to a served portion. Those few people, you make an exception for. The problem comes, as usual, when people start to use that as a money saving strategy.

 

[jacinda824]

For me, I see two separate issues. There are people who split meals everywhere because it's a legitimate need and there are people looking to be cheap. You know which you are (you, generally). There isn't an option to order extra drinks because a prix fixe meal is intended to be the same charge for everyone and is inclusive. Yes, they're giving away fountain drinks "for free" because there's not a work around. Disney will close that loophole.

The problem as I see it, for Disney, is that you will certainly have occasional people like the poster who had gastric bypass and cannot eat anything close to a served portion. Those few people, you make an exception for. The problem comes, as usual, when people start to use that as a money saving strategy.

Ok so I am the "exception" however a lot of times, the meal portions are on the very large side for one person to actually eat. I know as Americans, we love huge plates of food BUT people from other countries are used to consuming way smaller portions than here. Go to Europe and see the portions. If I was from there, I would be splitting. Secondly who cares even if the reason is financial? So someone wants to split a meal to save some money.. who cares??? Its not like they are cheating the restaurant out of food. The amount of the food is EXACTLY the same. Are you saying that people should be denied the ability to eat somewhere because they can only afford "x" amount for the meal and have to split? They have as much right to eat there as you do! I don't recall Disney saying "if you cannot spend "x" amount per meal, I am sorry but we will refuse you service. You are not good enough or worthy enough to eat here." Talk about entitlement! If all you can afford is the darn soup at BOG, you have the right to buy ONLY the soup and enjoy the restaurant.

The drink issue is kinda null and void since it sounds like most people are trying to pay for the extra drink. Not their fault, Disney cannot charge them for it.

Is the restaurant cheated out of revenue if someone doesn't add both an appetizer and a dessert to every meal? Are they cheated if you order the $16 entree and not the $35 one? They don't make as much profit but they are not cheated out of anything. You are eating there and they are making money. Without a butt in the booth, they make ZERO.

 

[3Gsandme]

The issue is, at a true prix fixe restaurant what you can and cannot consume doesn't matter in the least. Disney has no problem charging disabled people who literally take no food in by mouth full price for buffets and similar dining experiences. If they feel that too many people are taking advantage of their policies they'll change them as we have seen numerous times.

As I said, there are people with legitimate need and people who are cheaping out. If you're not cheaping out, then don't apply that to yourself.

 

[jacinda824]

The issue is, at a true prix fixe restaurant what you can and cannot consume doesn't matter in the least. Disney has no problem charging disabled people who literally take no food in by mouth full price for buffets and similar dining experiences. If they feel that too many people are taking advantage of their policies they'll change them as we have seen numerous times.

As I said, there are people with legitimate need and people who are cheaping out. If you're not cheaping out, then don't apply that to yourself.

Obviously Disney has ZERO problem with this since they have not changed their policy and charged you like a buffet. If Disney doesn't care, why do you? It's not your restaurant or your corporation therefore you have no say in their policies. If you don't like them, go somewhere else. You are NOT losing anything in regards to this. I am guessing there is a frustration because you either A) couldn't get a reservation for breakfast cause they were being stolen by all the half paying patrons (lol) or B) have to purchase full meals for everyone in your party because they all eat what is considered to be a normal amount of food.

Also I am fairly confident Disney does NOT charge the disabled people who take no food in their mouth full price for buffets. (Maybe for things that include entertainment like at the Polynesia Luau). Even when I explain my situation with buffets (on the once in forever chance we eat at Disney buffet - usually for someone's birthday), Disney charges me the kids price. They make an accommodation for me so I am sure they will for others as well.

 

[3Gsandme]

Obviously Disney has ZERO problem with this since they have not changed their policy and charged you like a buffet. If Disney doesn't care, why do you? It's not your restaurant or your corporation therefore you have no say in their policies. If you don't like them, go somewhere else. You are NOT losing anything in regards to this. I am guessing there is a frustration because you either A) couldn't get a reservation for breakfast cause they were being stolen by all the half paying patrons (lol) or B) have to purchase full meals for everyone in your party because they all eat what is considered to be a normal amount of food.

Also I am fairly confident Disney does NOT charge the disabled people who take no food in their mouth full price for buffets. (Maybe for things that include entertainment like at the Polynesia Luau). Even when I explain my situation with buffets (on the once in forever chance we eat at Disney buffet - usually for someone's birthday), Disney charges me the kids price. They make an accommodation for me so I am sure they will for others as well.

The disabilities board here disagrees with you. All charges like that are at the manager and servers discretion. They can and will charge you full price regardless of what you eat.

In any case, you are right. Disney will change policies if too many people abuse the loopholes (and this is a loophole. Reserving a prix fixe meal and not buying a meal is, indeed, a loophole) and if Disney finds they're losing money or not attaining enough revenue, they'll change it. They've already raised the price at BOG breakfast. Is that to counteract the people who are sharing and getting free drinks or sharing in general? I don't know. If it's a huge problem, they'll go to paid in full reservations like CRT.

In actuality, I obviously don't care if you make a reservation and show up and order a pop. It doesn't matter, in the least, to me. I didn't know I had to literally own a restaurant in Disney World to have an opinion on restaurant policies.

 

[jacinda824]

I talk to them as soon as I get there and I have NEVER been charged full price. Take that as you will. I would LEAVE immediately if they said I had to pay full price. It is insane and ridiculous. Your kid probably eats more than me in a sitting. I understand the entertainment type places are different. I am a fully paying guest at that point. I do NOT try and game the system.

I am still not seeing how this is a loophole. WTflip is the problem if people share?????? Maybe if more people in America shared, we wouldn't be so obese! Then again, Disney wouldn't make so much renting ECVs to a million guests if they could walk around a park instead of drive. $60/day per person whose only medical condition is being fat equals quite a profit. I was 315 pounds, I know how much it sucks walking all day. I never in my life rented an ECV because I was fat. I still am near 200/still obese. I understand the trials and tribulations of fat people so don't attack me for what I said..

It obviously does matter to you cause you are sure upset that someone is sharing and stealing the rights of other people who want to pay for an entire meal. No one said you need to own the restaurant but your statements sure seem like your opinion is the one that should prevail. It comes across as "If you want to save money, don't come to Disney. It's not right for you to share so you can save a buck or two at the mouse house." Good grief, I would probably be crucified if you knew that when I go to Disney, I actually will ask for cups of water at the fast food places so I can save a couple $$$ and not buy bottled. How am I worthy enough to get that since we are probably splitting the hamburger we bought and now I have the nerve to ask for free ice water??

Whatever. I am going to leave this conversation. Sometimes I know when to walk away. I cannot fix ignorant and prejudice.