How do you think this should go? Air B & B guests suing host because her disability triggered them

[LuvOrlando]

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/airbnb-host-sued-disability-ireland-b2197047.html

 

[_19disnA]

Behind a paywall so can't read the article.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I don't know what the law is there but here that suit would get tossed.

Just another reason why I don't do Air BnB.

Behind a paywall so can't read the article.

 

[Magical2017]

I am not clicking on the link but I did read about this. Since I don't know all the details I am not going to immediately jump on the guests. So far, it does sound like they are being unreasonable and should have stayed in a hotel. We'll see if more information is revealed.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I am not clicking on the link but I did read about this. Since I don't know all the details I am not going to immediately jump on the guests. So far, it does sound like they are being unreasonable and should have stayed in a hotel. We'll see if more information is revealed.

I don't think a hotel would have made anything differently. I don't know the full story either having limited information but if someone is upset at the idea of being around someone with an illness or disability it's a frame of mind they are under such that any encounter they have with someone would bring that to light. What if an assessable room was all that was available to the guests if they were at a hotel, you'd think their claim would be the same, the whole "disability aid" thing although I must say I'm confused at the “they do not press anything disability-related” comment they supposedly said to the host.

A question I would have is has the host had other guests and what were their impressions of it. If there's history of great interactions the guests are likely just on the extreme side of discriminatory bias and probably aren't pleasant people to be around in any fashion.

 

[DLgal]

Can you summarize what happened? The video is very vague and doesn't explain anything and the article is behind a paywall. What is the story?

 

[PollyannaMom]

I think the lawsuit is ridiculous.

 

[_19disnA]

I will wait to form an opinion until I hear both sides of this story............likely will turn into one of those 'he said/she said" things. Posting a 17 minute video on YouTube by the owner complaining about the apparent situation isn't the way I would have gone about trying to resolve whatever disagreement they seemed to have.

 

[DisneyMommyMichelle]

Is this the story?
https://sports.yahoo.com/woman-sued...with Huntington's is,and the host for comment
If so, this seems a bit ridiculous and far fetched but I would also have to hear the other side of the story to see what happened or what they had seen.

 

[mrodgers]

I think the lawsuit is ridiculous.

Seems the news thinks so too since none of the links work any more, including the Yahoo link and the video that now is marked private.

 

[LuvOrlando]

Many people are good but many people are often completely awful and may people think people who don't slide into their version of ideal are icky & at fault.

I would also love to know the name of the guests

If the links are dead here is a copy paste from NewsNCR - I deleted the businesses name and put in (--- - & -) because we can connect the dots & I assume their name is why things were deleted

BY DAMINI SHARMA OCTOBER 6, 2022 UPDATED: OCTOBER 6, 2022

A younger lady with a terminal sickness has claimed she is being sued by her (--- - & -) company as a result of they had been “triggered” by her incapacity.
The lady, solely recognized by the username 1820Things or “thisworldcanbeaccessible” throughout her social channels, posted a sequence of movies to YouTube and TikTok explaining her scenario. She additionally referred to as out the short-term homestays service for allegedly failing to supply her satisfactory assist or recommendation.
“I’m about to fight a legal challenge because I hosted a guest recently using a very large online platform, who is now demanding compensation for being forced to be around a disabled person”, she says in a video posted 9 days in the past, with out initially figuring out (--- - & -) .

In a separate video, posted six days in the past, the lady alleges that the scenario started when the company arrived at her property in Ireland and “they became very hostile and aggressive, demanding to know who the disabled person in the house” was after noticing her doorbell.
She says the company knowledgeable her “they do not press anything disability-related” however that she attributed a few of their aggression to a potential “language barrier”.
The lady, who has Huntington’s Disease, explains the alleged lawsuit in opposition to her: ”They are stating that they need to have identified beforehand, that (--- - & -) ought to have pressured me to reveal that I’m disabled — though they’re solely round me actually for me handy the keys to them.

“They’re arguing that absolutely everything in my house is a disability aid, including glass cups, mugs… everything. Anything purchased by a disabled person is a disability aid, according to their self-identified logic,” she continues.
As per (--- - & -) coverage, the lady says, issues of safety involving a disabled host or visitor don’t get handed onto their security group however to buyer companies, which don’t work in a single day.
“It meant that I, as a disabled host, was left with very, very verbally abusive and violent guests in my home,” she says.
She additionally claims she was pressured to spend the evening “locked” in her kitchen, as (--- - & -) allegedly instructed her she could be placing herself at additional threat of legal responsibility if she ventured right into a shared residing house the place she may encounter the company.

At that time, she provides, she nonetheless believed (--- - & -) would assist relocate the company from her residence. Instead, they apparently demanded that she be faraway from the property and (--- - & -) "put it to me [whether] I’d consent to leaving my property in a manner that would not be offensive to the guests’ sensibilities”, she says.
In considered one of her movies, the lady highlights that she isn’t taking up (--- - & -) or the company for monetary acquire.
Instead, she continues, “I need you to really sit and have a think about if we want to live in a world where someone’s political ideology or feelings over disability are worth more legal protection than the disabled person themselves”.
Several public figures have drawn consideration to her scenario, together with radio presenter Emma Kennedy who tweeted: “So this is a mind blowing case. A woman with Huntington’s is being sued for £250,000 by guests who came to her (--- - & -)
“They’re claiming her being disabled traumatised them. All she did was hand them the keys.”
The Independent has reached out to (--- - & -) and the host for remark.

 

[soccerdad72]

Many people are good but many people are often completely awful and may people think people who don't slide into their version of ideal are icky & at fault.

I would also love to know the name of the guests

If the links are dead here is a copy paste from NewsNCR - I deleted the businesses name and put in (--- - & -) because we can connect the dots & I assume their name is why things were deleted

BY DAMINI SHARMA OCTOBER 6, 2022 UPDATED: OCTOBER 6, 2022

A younger lady with a terminal sickness has claimed she is being sued by her (--- - & -) company as a result of they had been “triggered” by her incapacity.
The lady, solely recognized by the username 1820Things or “thisworldcanbeaccessible” throughout her social channels, posted a sequence of movies to YouTube and TikTok explaining her scenario. She additionally referred to as out the short-term homestays service for allegedly failing to supply her satisfactory assist or recommendation.
“I’m about to fight a legal challenge because I hosted a guest recently using a very large online platform, who is now demanding compensation for being forced to be around a disabled person”, she says in a video posted 9 days in the past, with out initially figuring out (--- - & -) .

In a separate video, posted six days in the past, the lady alleges that the scenario started when the company arrived at her property in Ireland and “they became very hostile and aggressive, demanding to know who the disabled person in the house” was after noticing her doorbell.
She says the company knowledgeable her “they do not press anything disability-related” however that she attributed a few of their aggression to a potential “language barrier”.
The lady, who has Huntington’s Disease, explains the alleged lawsuit in opposition to her: ”They are stating that they need to have identified beforehand, that (--- - & -) ought to have pressured me to reveal that I’m disabled — though they’re solely round me actually for me handy the keys to them.

“They’re arguing that absolutely everything in my house is a disability aid, including glass cups, mugs… everything. Anything purchased by a disabled person is a disability aid, according to their self-identified logic,” she continues.
As per (--- - & -) coverage, the lady says, issues of safety involving a disabled host or visitor don’t get handed onto their security group however to buyer companies, which don’t work in a single day.
“It meant that I, as a disabled host, was left with very, very verbally abusive and violent guests in my home,” she says.
She additionally claims she was pressured to spend the evening “locked” in her kitchen, as (--- - & -) allegedly instructed her she could be placing herself at additional threat of legal responsibility if she ventured right into a shared residing house the place she may encounter the company.

At that time, she provides, she nonetheless believed (--- - & -) would assist relocate the company from her residence. Instead, they apparently demanded that she be faraway from the property and (--- - & -) "put it to me [whether] I’d consent to leaving my property in a manner that would not be offensive to the guests’ sensibilities”, she says.
In considered one of her movies, the lady highlights that she isn’t taking up (--- - & -) or the company for monetary acquire.
Instead, she continues, “I need you to really sit and have a think about if we want to live in a world where someone’s political ideology or feelings over disability are worth more legal protection than the disabled person themselves”.
Several public figures have drawn consideration to her scenario, together with radio presenter Emma Kennedy who tweeted: “So this is a mind blowing case. A woman with Huntington’s is being sued for £250,000 by guests who came to her (--- - & -)
“They’re claiming her being disabled traumatised them. All she did was hand them the keys.”
The Independent has reached out to (--- - & -) and the host for remark.

I've read this like 3 times and I still don't know what the story is. This has to be one of the worst written articles I've ever read.

 

[DLgal]

I've read this like 3 times and I still don't know what the story is. This has to be one of the worst written articles I've ever read.

Was gonna say the same thing. I feel like it was translated into a different language and then translated back to English. I still have no idea what this story is about. I give up.

 

[sam_gordon]

Many people are good but many people are often completely awful and may people think people who don't slide into their version of ideal are icky & at fault.

I would also love to know the name of the guests

If the links are dead here is a copy paste from NewsNCR - I deleted the businesses name and put in (--- - & -) because we can connect the dots & I assume their name is why things were deleted

BY DAMINI SHARMA OCTOBER 6, 2022 UPDATED: OCTOBER 6, 2022

A younger lady with a terminal sickness has claimed she is being sued by her (--- - & -) company as a result of they had been “triggered” by her incapacity.
The lady, solely recognized by the username 1820Things or “thisworldcanbeaccessible” throughout her social channels, posted a sequence of movies to YouTube and TikTok explaining her scenario. She additionally referred to as out the short-term homestays service for allegedly failing to supply her satisfactory assist or recommendation.
“I’m about to fight a legal challenge because I hosted a guest recently using a very large online platform, who is now demanding compensation for being forced to be around a disabled person”, she says in a video posted 9 days in the past, with out initially figuring out (--- - & -) .

In a separate video, posted six days in the past, the lady alleges that the scenario started when the company arrived at her property in Ireland and “they became very hostile and aggressive, demanding to know who the disabled person in the house” was after noticing her doorbell.
She says the company knowledgeable her “they do not press anything disability-related” however that she attributed a few of their aggression to a potential “language barrier”.
The lady, who has Huntington’s Disease, explains the alleged lawsuit in opposition to her: ”They are stating that they need to have identified beforehand, that (--- - & -) ought to have pressured me to reveal that I’m disabled — though they’re solely round me actually for me handy the keys to them.

“They’re arguing that absolutely everything in my house is a disability aid, including glass cups, mugs… everything. Anything purchased by a disabled person is a disability aid, according to their self-identified logic,” she continues.
As per (--- - & -) coverage, the lady says, issues of safety involving a disabled host or visitor don’t get handed onto their security group however to buyer companies, which don’t work in a single day.
“It meant that I, as a disabled host, was left with very, very verbally abusive and violent guests in my home,” she says.
She additionally claims she was pressured to spend the evening “locked” in her kitchen, as (--- - & -) allegedly instructed her she could be placing herself at additional threat of legal responsibility if she ventured right into a shared residing house the place she may encounter the company.

At that time, she provides, she nonetheless believed (--- - & -) would assist relocate the company from her residence. Instead, they apparently demanded that she be faraway from the property and (--- - & -) "put it to me [whether] I’d consent to leaving my property in a manner that would not be offensive to the guests’ sensibilities”, she says.
In considered one of her movies, the lady highlights that she isn’t taking up (--- - & -) or the company for monetary acquire.
Instead, she continues, “I need you to really sit and have a think about if we want to live in a world where someone’s political ideology or feelings over disability are worth more legal protection than the disabled person themselves”.
Several public figures have drawn consideration to her scenario, together with radio presenter Emma Kennedy who tweeted: “So this is a mind blowing case. A woman with Huntington’s is being sued for £250,000 by guests who came to her (--- - & -)
“They’re claiming her being disabled traumatised them. All she did was hand them the keys.”
The Independent has reached out to (--- - & -) and the host for remark.

Was this article translated? If not, it is about the worst writing I think I have run into.

 

[GreatLakes]

Whomever wrote that article might have some form of disability because it makes no sense.

 

[LuvOrlando]

Really? I figure it's just verbatim and just skipped using the commonly used "sic" to identify it as such. My paraphrase is:

Person with Huntington's rented a portion of her place to a couple who are the renters through an intermediary business that matches.

The couple who rented recognized this was a disabled person's home due to the placement of the doorbell (presumably wheelchair height).

The couple immediately complained that the fact a disabled person was also in the space was not disclosed citing that everything in the home was a handicapped specialized disability aid (wonder how offended they are in public restrooms?)

The business told the handicapped person to vacate her home because the renters were 'triggered' by her disability instead of helping the renters find an alternative place to stay.

The lawsuit seems to be over the fact that disabled person renting didn't disclose the nature of her disabled state to the renters ahead of time so they could deselect based on her intolerable existence & also because the business in between isn't pressuring property owners hard enough to disclose disabilities so that unsuspecting renters aren't forced to endure the presence of disabled people. You know, like they should come with warning labels.



This story has me mostly wondering how disabled people are treated when traveling in other parts of the world, as in, what is this story really saying about how businesses treat disability?

 

[DLgal]

Really? I figure it's just verbatim and just skipped using the commonly used "sic" to identify it as such. My paraphrase is:

Person with Huntington's rented a portion of her place to a couple who are the renters through an intermediary business that matches.

The couple who rented recognized this was a disabled person's home due to the placement of the doorbell (presumably wheelchair height).

The couple immediately complained that the fact a disabled person was also in the space was not disclosed citing that everything in the home was a handicapped specialized disability aid (wonder how offended they are in public restrooms?)

The business told the handicapped person to vacate her home because the renters were 'triggered' by her disability instead of helping the renters find an alternative place to stay.

The lawsuit seems to be over the fact that disabled person renting didn't disclose the nature of her disabled state to the renters ahead of time so they could deselect based on her intolerable existence & also because the business in between isn't pressuring property owners hard enough to disclose disabilities so that unsuspecting renters aren't forced to endure the presence of disabled people. You know, like they should come with warning labels.



This story has me mostly wondering how disabled people are treated when traveling in other parts of the world, as in, what is this story really saying about how businesses treat disability?

I mean, when you choose to open your home to strangers in the hopes of making money, you subject yourself to all kinds of people. The entire idea of home sharing is so icky to me and I can't imagine anyone who values their personal space and privacy would ever do this in the first place. You open yourself up to absolutely all kinds of crazy situations, which this sounds like. It's a risk you take.

That said, these tourists sound absolutely unhinged and if they are TRULY suing this woman ONLY because she has a disability, that is the dumbest thing I've ever read. However, it SOUNDS like they were worried that she may have a contagious illness and when she wouldn't disclose her disability, they got freaked out. Apparently she may have had some visible medical equipment around, etc. I can sort of understand not wanting to share a space with someone who was potentially sick or who may require medical attention while you are there on vacation.

I don't know the whole story, so I can't just automatically side with either party here. I suppose the judge in this case will be the one to decide how this goes.

I do know that NONE of these home sharing companies have the backs of either the owners OR the guests and I predict this entire industry will crumble eventually due to lawsuits of this nature. Something awful is eventually going to happen and it will be game over.

Stay in hotels, people.

 

[SirDuff]

Agreed that is all but gibberish. But at one one point it says that she’d only see them to hand over the keys (as would happen if you rent your own space) but then says she was (or was supposed to) be also staying in the same space. Seems like something is missing from her story (and I saw an earlier article saying the same thin, so I don’t think it’s the fault of the article’s gibberish.

 

[_19disnA]

The main difference between VRBO and airB&B is that you are renting out the entire house to the renters. Have used VRBO several times and that has ALWAYS been the case. You interact with the owner (or perhaps some management company to get the keys/sign paperwork etc.) but they are NOT living there while you are around. Have never used AirB&B, but as I understand how that works, someone is renting out a portion of their home while still living there. Depending on how the home is configured, there apparently may be some common areas everyone shares. Perhaps that practice is more common outside of the USA, but would never rent someplace where you have to share part of the accommodations.

The whole situation makes NO sense to me from the poorly written article and I still have no idea what someone means when they say they were 'triggered' by the accommodations. Sounds like a vague way of saying something other then they were uncomfortable being around a person with a disability.

 

[SirDuff]

Have never used AirB&B, but as I understand how that works, someone is renting out a portion of their home while still living there.

Not always. I’ve done AirBnb a couple of times (for extend month or longer stays - twice when I moved to a new country and wanted to be able to take some time to find somewhere to rent longer term) and always had the entire apartment I was renting (both in the US and in Europe).