How do you afford frequent cruises????

Well, I wrote a huge novel, but y'all don't want to hear my life story, so here's a condensed version. Trust me...the original really was much longer.

We stretch our dollar. That doesn't mean we do without or don't have nice things. It just means we're not paying out the wazoo if we don't have to. A few examples: We have two Mercedes in our driveway. One is an old 85 300D diesel, it's basically my car that I have cause I just think it's cool, plus it serves as a backup car. The other is an 02 E320 station wagon. Paid about 10K under blue book last year, it cost barely more than the 2000 Hyundai Elantra we bought new (tip, don't buy new cars). It's as good or better than any new vehicle in the same price range. We have a 55" HDTV, but only paid $850 for it over TWO years ago! It'd be hard to find a similar TV for that price even today. The laptop I'm using now was bought as a refurb, and so was the one before that.

We currently have a tiny house which was perfect for us at the time. It's paid off, so no mortgage currently. We're looking at getting a new house, will try to get a loan the end of this month. We'll be getting a manufactured home. Some people will think we're crazy, but it's about half the price of a conventional home, plus it can be built as good (or bad) as a regular stick built house. We've done our research, and this is the best solution for us. If we were worried about what everyone else thought of us, we'd definitely just build and end up with a smaller house and a bigger mortgage.

We don't drink or smoke, so that saves a lot right there on a daily basis plus on a cruise. We do have the occasional drink, but we may have 2-3 drinks in a year's time, so that gives you an idea of how occasional I mean.

Most vacations I get a really good deal on. 7-day Carnival was about $507 each with a $100 onboard credit, a so-so deal. 11-day Celebrity was $575 per person with three people in a room (plus a $100 stateroom credit, and another $50 gift certificate after the cruise). Disney was...way too much but our schedule wasn't flexible for that one (had to book after new baby was 12 weeks old, and had to end before the 16 week maternity leave was up). All but one excursion was booked direct with a third party instead of through the ship (who would contract with a third party). The one exception was due to time, it was cutting it a bit close and we didn't want to worry about being left behind.

We eat out about three times a week, though recently it's been cut back to just two (saving for down-payment). I have no problem using a coupon or whipping out my "smart card" for local places. We may even splurge tomorrow and hit up Red Lobster...because it's shrimp lover's Tuesday and we'll just share a pick 4...with two drinks and tip we'll be just over $20, not bad. Lately we've been hitting up a lot of old favorites, like Ci-Ci's and Taco Bell.

And for how we dress, I'm happy in a pair of jeans and a t-shirt. Don't have many name-brand shirts, mainly just ones I picked up on vacation. Jeans are whatever were a good deal, I have some Member's Mark from Sam's Club, Levi's, Izod, and whatever else. I do have a semi-expensive watch, I'm happy with something cheap but it's something I can pass down to my son when he's older, before it I was happy with cheap knock-offs, Casio, Skagen, etc.

As for income...well my wife is a registered nurse, and I make about the same amount with my website. I only count on the money she makes when deciding on a big purchase such as our last car or the upcoming mortgage, since she's the one with the stable job (there'll always be a job for a nurse, but who knows what my site will do in the future).

Oh, and one more important tip, we rarely carry a balance on a credit card. In fact, a little over a year ago we didn't have a single one. Only got the ones we have now to build out credit for the upcoming home purchase (we started applying while my wife was pregnant). Just the money we saved by not having to pay interest has probably been enough for several vacations.
 
Here is some food for thought for any college students or younger reading this thread or parents and or grandparents who want to share...

My DH and I met in college and got engaged in college and married at 23 - 13 years later we couldn't be happier or have a more solid marriage and family. You certainly have to be mature and know what you want to make it happen but I think meeting and getting married early was a big key in our financial success - we were able to work together on shared goals right from the start. Also our strategies may not be right for everyone but worked wonders for us.

Out of college we both got what were good paying jobs at the time and worked hard at them - 60 hours weren't unusual for us to do in a week. We could have had a yuppie lifestyle. We chose not. We made a conscious choice to live on 1 income and save the other (you don't miss what you don't have - the 1 income was more than we were living on in college). We maxed out our 401(k)s, invested in real estate an other investment vehicles. We went to grad school (worked for companies who paid for our schooling) and studied together for "entertainment". Otherwise, we cooked together, went for walks, rode our bikes, etc... Our first vacations (less than 1 a year) were all inexpensive, we never paid more than $100 a night for a room, usually under $50, and ate late lunches to save money over dinner menus, etc...

We've never had credit card debt. Our diciplined savings and investing in the first 8 years of our life allowed us to put enough money away to fund our retirement and DDs college (before they were even born). Starting early and compound interest work wonders.

From the time my first DD was born, I've been able to work part time around her and my other DD's schedules and be there for them at school, before school, after school, etc... We still put the max in our 401(k) and have adequate reserves for an emergency. Our hard work and additional degrees have promoted us within our fields and we no longer have to skimp in the same ways we did in our first vacations. We certainly aren't staying in the Roy or Walt (category 10-12 for us) but we do travel on at least 2 nice vacations a year and live comfortably in other respects. We drive modest cars and drive them past 100,000 miles.

Bottom line instead of living our 20s saying we have a lifetime ahead of us, we really worked in our 20s so that from our 30s forward we could enjoy the fruits of our labor and not be playing catch up. If you do the math, saving $1000 a year from age 22-30 and not another dime after age 30 invested at an annual return of 8% will yield you just over $199,000 at age 65. If you start saving at age 30 and save that same $1,000 from age 30-65 you miss the $1,000 for 35 years versus the 8 years if you started in your 20s and only have $186,000 when you are 65. I was fortuneate to have someone do this calculation for me when I was graduating college. Sure our 20s were not nearly as exciting or adventerous as some of our peers, but we are more than making up for it in our 30s and will continue to make up for it! I wouldn't have traded our choices in life for anything.
 
These are all such great posts - thanks for all the good advice.

It looks like the Disney Visa has some advantages - points? What does it give you? I'll have to look into it.
 

I have already started our cruise fund for 2012 on one of the new ships! Who knows if they will be 7 n or 10 n itineraries or how much they will cost by then... But I figure we can use whatever tax refund we get that year + plan out our our DVC points just right for 2011, 2012 & 2013 and THEN if I save $23 a week for 260 weeks (5 yrs) I'll have $6K cash so with that combination I'm goin' somewhere on some yet un-named boat!! :lmao:
 
I am a divorced Mom with 1 DS and I make it a priority to take a nice vacation every year. I do not make a lot of money at my job, but I claim 0 on my taxes, so that they take out more and I get a larger refund. Also, I get a nice bonus at work in April which more than covers the cost of the trip. When I was growing up, my parents always took us on great vacations including several trips to WDW back when it first opened. I have many wonderful memories that I want my son to experience also. In addition to the trips I have listed in my siggie, we also went for 2 weeks to Italy in 2003 and 1 week in Cancun in 2005.:thumbsup2
 
My wife is loaded, works for her parents and is able to expense activites that are part of her work....I work for school...so it ain't me bring'en home the bacon!
 
We are a family of five. My oldest is living in Florida right now on the WDW college internship. While we are not well off by any means, we have found that during the year we could stop ourselves from buyng something just for the sake of buying...if we said we could use that towards a cruise.

We book during hurricaine season in September October time frame---so it is cheaper...Knock on wood we have never had poor weather or been diverted from any ports.

We always rebook on board and then shop Sams, Costco, or Wal Mart Travel for a better deal-they will usually meet and beat what you get on board.

Finally-we use the cruise as part of the kids Xmas present...That is all they ever want. We are very lucky that our kids want nothing more than to spend time as a family.

Tax returns have always helped us in the past, we do not spend alot on excursions but we do what we like!

There are many ways to cruise justify, but the best...How can you afford not to? You work hard all year, you deserve it, and we have found the 7 day to be more reasonable than 4 day in the past...use Southwest airlines if you can they can really make your day with one way flights to Orlando for $49.

Remember you only live once, make the very most of it :)
 
We aren't well off by any means. DH works FT and I work PT. I gave up FT when my 3rd child was born and the child care costs made it silly for me to work. Noe they agre getting older and I am working a bit more, but not FT.

Here is some of what we do to save...
We don't eat out more than 2 or 3 times a month, and rarely is it a costly meal.
We make our own pizza. (MUCH cheaper than take out-and tastier too.)
All change goes in a jar-it's amazing how fast it piles up.
A few $$ from each paycheck goes into the savings account-if it's not in the checking it doesn't get spent.
We "live" off of DH's pay. My paycheck goes in a passbook account. It is used for vacations and emergencies.
Both of our cars have over 150,000 miles. But as long as they run, we'll keep them.
We take a big vacation about every 2 years. Other than that, we go camping every summer. We only go on big vacations when we can be paid in full before we go (including $ saved for spending on vacation)
Tax refunds-a portion goes to vacation as soon as we get it.
We pay off our credit card every month-and only have 1.
Credit card points saved us over $800 last DCL.

For us, the key has been to stash the money in a separate account and pretend we don't have it. A little here and there goes a long way.
 
I've been on a dozen cruisies....It helps if you live in Florida quite a bit (no plane tickets) and most of my cruises have been on other cruise lines, where you can get REALLY great deals.....

We've done two Disney cruises, and really enjoyed them, but we refuse to pay an astronomical amount just because DCL only has two ships.

If you sign up for Vacatons to Go newsletter or something similar, you'll see phenomenal rates for cruises from all over the country.
 
Interesting thread! And lots of really great ideas on how to afford them!

I think it's all a matter of priority. No matter how much (or little) you make - whatever your priorities are, those are what you'll fund.

For my family, we *live* for our vacations. So...

1) We live in a small (1400 sq. ft) house.
2) My car is almost 8 years old - and I do not have any plans to replace it in the forseeable future.
3) We spend very little money on clothes.
4) We cook at home almost every night. And we make a bunch of stuff from scratch (like the pizza another poster talked about).
5) We don't have HBO or Showtime or any other movie channel.
6) I set aside almost 40% of my income into savings. No, I didn't start like this right away. I started at about 3% and worked up each year. Try adding half of your raise every year. It does add up fast!
7) I have holiday and vacation savings accounts that pay out at a set time each year. I consider the money "untouchable" until then.
8) I "amoritize" the cost of a new vacation by putting "payments" into my savings account each month.
9) I learned to BUDGET - realistically. Once you start looking at where your money goes, it's much easier to redirect it towards that which is most important to you (like DCL cruises). I was blowing a LOT of money on eating out. It was easy to cook at home when I realized it would give me more vacation time.
10) Limit souvenirs to ones that are most meaningful. These include, pictures, journal entries, napkins, shells. I've even collected sand or beach glass from each location we visit and then display them in pretty bottles. For kids, give them a souvenir budget, break it down into $ per port and then dish it out at each port. If they are older, give them half the budget up front and refuse (FIRMLY) to give them the rest until half way through the cruise - even if they blew their budget the first day. We spent less than $200 on souvenirs for our last 11-night cruise.
11) I book in hurricane season - and I book about a year and a half in advance (this helps for item #8)
12) I use credit cards for points. We have both Disney and Airline credit cards. I charge EVERYTHING to them. I signed up for automated bill pays for things like my cell phone bill. And I pay off the card every month. When I add every day items like groceries, gas, utility bills, etc. the points add up faster. Each year we use our Disney points to either a) pay for our shore excursions or b) pay for our Disney passes and stays.

I'm sure there are other ways that I budget - but I just can't think of them now!

Sue
 
My wife is loaded, works for her parents and is able to expense activites that are part of her work....I work for school...so it ain't me bring'en home the bacon!

Love it! Any suggestions on where to find a "loaded" spouse for those who are single? That would solve the whole problem!:lmao:
 
Hi, all!

I've been reading this posts carefullly, (especially since I'm the OP!) and trying to see which strategies might work for our family.

Two questions:

1) Many of you talk about booking early. How early? I generally check prices on Travelocity (to compare from week to week), then book with AAA. Right now, Travelocity is showing prices until the end of 2008. How far ahead can you book?

2) Several people mentioned booking with one company, then switching to another and getting a discount or shipboard credit. How specifically does that work?

Thank you!

Laurie
 
Love it! Any suggestions on where to find a "loaded" spouse for those who are single? That would solve the whole problem!:lmao:

I grabbed her straight out of High School before anyone else had a chance! :thumbsup2
 
Many of you talk about booking early. How early? I generally check prices on Travelocity (to compare from week to week), then book with AAA. Right now, Travelocity is showing prices until the end of 2008. How far ahead can you book?
You can book as soon as the sailing schedules are released. Most times this will be 12-18 months out. But the more popular itineraries will be released farther out than that.

Several people mentioned booking with one company, then switching to another and getting a discount or shipboard credit. How specifically does that work?
You can book with the cruise line, for instance, then transfer your booking later to a TA who offers a better price. All it takes is a fax to authorize. If you haven't already done so, you may want to visit cruisecompete dot com and enter your cruise information there. You'll get 3, 4, or 5 quotes and can compare pricing and bennies (like shipboard credits) to see who has the best deal.

Good luck!
 
Hi, all!

I've been reading this posts carefullly, (especially since I'm the OP!) and trying to see which strategies might work for our family.

Two questions:

1) Many of you talk about booking early. How early? I generally check prices on Travelocity (to compare from week to week), then book with AAA. Right now, Travelocity is showing prices until the end of 2008. How far ahead can you book?

2) Several people mentioned booking with one company, then switching to another and getting a discount or shipboard credit. How specifically does that work?

Thank you!

Laurie

For my more recent cruises, I book the day they are released. Every once in awhile the cruise bug hits and I'll book a quick 3-night when the Florida resident rates are released (which is about 4-6 months before the cruise). Cruise prices increase as the boat fills. If it doesn't fill, the cruise lines will offer special sailing incentives to fill the boat. Sometimes those incentives are better than the original cruise price, sometimes they aren't.

You can book online through the cruise line and then switch it to a TA later. The TA often will offer shipboard credits.

DCL offers shipboard credits and a percentage off if you re-book while onboard. You can then transfer to a TA afterwards and get additional credits from the TA! This funds our spa treatments - we always have a massage to start out the trip.

HTH!

Sue
 
Hi, all!

1) Many of you talk about booking early. How early? I generally check prices on Travelocity (to compare from week to week), then book with AAA. Right now, Travelocity is showing prices until the end of 2008. How far ahead can you book?

FYI...I noticed that Travelcity did not have the dates available until well after they were available from Disney and from Dreams Unlimited which sponsors this site. How I knew when dates would be opening up was by monitoring this site.
 
The way we afford a cruise a year and two weeks at WDW is to SAVE! We make ourselves budget money for our vacations. These are very important to us and we forgo other things to save. We rarely go out to eat or to a movie. It can be done.
 
Mike, wish someone could find a decent $750K house here, but not happening!! We sold my dad's house (where we grew up) which was 1750 square feet, needing a roof replacement, pool replacement and termites in the garage for 680K (16 bids) two years ago. This same house which was in our family for almost 50 years was just sold again (don't know if any repairs were done) last month for $785K. Real Estate in California is insane to say the least!!

Hi Birkner! When I read Mike's post about the 750,000 loan, it made me laugh and cry at the same time! We are looking at moving now to be in a better school area and we will have to buy an 875,000 to 900,000 house just to move up in size to about 2000 square feet (nothing huge and enormous at all). And that's even with us redoing the kitchen and bathrooms in addition to that! Hmm....wish I could move out of here like everyone else I know has done!:sad2: Think of property taxes on 900,000......$13,500 per year just in property taxes. CA real estate has lost their minds!:eek:
 
Hi Birkner! When I read Mike's post about the 750,000 loan, it made me laugh and cry at the same time! We are looking at moving now to be in a better school area and we will have to buy an 875,000 to 900,000 house just to move up in size to about 2000 square feet (nothing huge and enormous at all). And that's even with us redoing the kitchen and bathrooms in addition to that! Hmm....wish I could move out of here like everyone else I know has done!:sad2: Think of property taxes on 900,000......$13,500 per year just in property taxes. CA real estate has lost their minds!:eek:

Hi all... just surfing the DIS and had to stop because of sticker shock:eek: .....I live in a very very very small town in west central PA (the 2006 graduating class only had 115 kids) and i am thanking my luck stars that we do...we purchased a lovely 1850 square ft remodeled home last ST. Patty's Day for 72,500 yes that is 72,500 not 725,000 I just wanted to say I LOVE BEING A HICK!!!!....lol:rotfl2: :rotfl2:
 


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