How close are you to your breaking point?

[pryncess527]

And there are plenty of people who just don’t listen or pay attention. I’m watching this press conference and the reporters are asking the governor to clarify stuff he’s been saying daily for weeks. He literally cannot win no matter what he tries to do.

No one person can, thats why more consistency would have been nice.

 

[LSUmiss]

My state expires on 4/30 and I expect an announcement any day to extend until May 15, then another before May 15 for another 2 weeks, and so on. They will try to keep the masses calm with shorter periods but it will be hard to keep people contained once the weather improves. The hospitals in my area are not overwhelmed and are furloughing people, but there seems to be a one-size fits all approach to this.

This is where I am with & why I think ppl will become more & more defiant. Ppl aren’t THAT dumb. If I really thought it was just 2 more weeks then I’d wait.’ DS bday was Saturday. We had a few close family over. That’s it. If I were sure waiting til 5/1 to do it would have been it, then I would have waited. But, here we are, it’s extended til 5/16 & I expect 5/16 & it’ll be the same.

 

[SaintsManiac]

This is where I am with & why I think ppl will become more & more defiant. Ppl aren’t THAT dumb. If I really thought it was just 2 more weeks then I’d wait.’ DS bday was Saturday. We had a few close family over. That’s it. If I were sure waiting til 5/1 to do it would have been it, then I would have waited. But, here we are, it’s extended til 5/16 & I expect 5/16 & it’ll be the same.

I can’t tell if you’re angry about the extension, but I don’t see how they have any other choice. Every day is wait and see. People have been defiant since day one. That’s their business I guess.

 

[cobright]

It was supposed to be to flatten the curve. Well that has happened here & they keep finding reasons to extended it.

Maybe they would like to keep it flat?

Breaking point? It's only been 5 weeks.

Without discounting those people who must go out and about or face financial ruin, it does seem like this is one of those moments where we find out what we are made of as a society. Our mettle is being tested. I hate it, and I feel for all the hurt and anxiety it causes us, but putting my life on hold for 2 or 3 months is not an unbearable burden.

Per Covidactnow.org, cases there are stable and COVID19 hospitalizations are at about 15% of available hospital capacity.

And your source gives those numbers as stable assuming current stay at home orders remain in place.

People in my state were sure we'd see a huge spike in cases because of the Lansing protests... a projection that so far hasn't come true, and after 12 days, we should at least be seeing some signs if it was going to.

Except there has been an uptick. Operation Gridlock happened on April 15, following 2 weeks of mostly declining numbers. 5 days later we start an upswing in cases that takes us back to near peak levels. We don't have the case surveillance in place to really find out what's related to what, but the concern is certainly justified.

 

[SaintsManiac]

No one person can, thats why more consistency would have been nice.

My state has been consistent, in my opinion.

 

[pryncess527]

My state has been consistent, in my opinion.

I didnt mean to imply otherwise, but the varied response by states & lack of national policy/messaging made it harder for Governors to be heard. And i dont think many states emphasized or included closed social circles, particularly for elderly living alone, and that inclusion could have made this easier.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

And that’s the thing, different states have different rules. Is visiting close family any less dangerous in NJ than in LA? Highly doubt it. So that is part of my rationalization for doing it.

Well, one family in NJ had 4 deaths from a family party when this was just getting ramped up.

 

[SaintsManiac]

I didnt mean to imply otherwise, but the varied response by states & lack of national policy/messaging made it harder for Governors to be heard. And i dont think many states emphasized or included closed social circles, particularly for elderly living alone, and that inclusion could have made this easier.

I would urge everyone to go to their governor’s website to read the individual orders if they haven’t. I know that checking on the elderly/family was specifically mentioned in ours.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

And that’s the thing, different states have different rules. Is visiting close family any less dangerous in NJ than in LA? Highly doubt it. So that is part of my rationalization for doing it.

Some stay at home orders certianly seem more reasonsble than others. There is no reason for this to be more restrictive tgan it has to be. I wish there were clearer messaging & more uniformity among states.

I actually agree with both of these!

As I said before, I believe in slow, methodical and educated reopenings. I said it on an other thread before I left it because some of us (myself included) were just talking in circles.

But it’s hard when we’re not under the same guidelines and restrictions. Why is the county next to us allowed to use their parks, but we’re not? Why are socially distanced get togethers allowed some places, but not others? Why can some see their parents or have circles, but some can’t. I think most of us were ok with the strict orders when they started. But I also see how people will start rebelling if they don’t start feeling like they’re getting something back for their hard work in following the orders. Or close our county borders. No reason the county next to us should get the freedom and the ability to undo our hard work. Even more so at the state level.

 

[RangerPooh]

I’m ready to snap. My parents live with us and are negative people. Always looking at the bad side of things. Rarely a positive comment. Ready to complain about the kids, tear them down. Before working from home I only got this after arriving home from work, and by each of them. These days I get it every.day.all.day. from both of them. It eats at your outlook at life. They refuse to change.

<<sorry for venting. I just needed to get it out. Their mentality has been draining me and is starting to transfer into communication with my coworkers and students >>

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Breaking point? It's only been 5 weeks.

Yeah. It's not like we're England during WW2... Or the United States for that matter. I wonder what we'd all do with rationing?

 

[pryncess527]

I’m ready to snap. My parents live with us and are negative people. Always looking at the bad side of things. Rarely a positive comment. Ready to complain about the kids, tear them down. Before working from home I only got this after arriving home from work, and by each of them. These days I get it every.day.all.day. from both of them. It eats at your outlook at life. They refuse to change.

<<sorry for venting. I just needed to get it out. Their mentality has been draining me and is starting to transfer into communication with my coworkers and students >>

We might need a whole new thread for venting about loved ones

i adore my FIL but i bit his head off this morning and now i think he’s hiding from me

 

[FairestOfThemAll37]

I have a question now. Which would be easier for you - continuation of these current shelters in place for longer than anticipated/hoped or allowing some reopenings and having to shut down all over again with the next surge?

I think both will happen, unfortunately, but I can’t figure out which would be easier for me. Right now I’m leaning towards slow, gradual openings that maybe gives us a little respite over the summer to get outdoors, see family, etc and then hunker down again. But then I also see it being really hard to get people to do this a second time.

I honestly don’t believe it will be possible to do another shutdown without a much higher level of enforcement. I don’t think with a country like America and our collective culture that you’ll get this twice.

I know people are complaining that people haven’t been following it the first place, but I think there’s more who are than aren’t. I’m actually surprised that we’ve done as well as we have for a people with a deeply ingrained sense of personal freedom, independence, and distrust of authority. I’m actually quite proud of us. Have there been some dipsticks that deserve a smack? 100% overall? I think we’ve done well.

Our Gov. was one of the last to issue an order and I believe did so more out of mounting pressure than anything else. So, if there’s any way for him not to extend the order in FL, I think it will expire as expected. I do think that the Orange County mayor is likely to extend the order just as they had an order in place several weeks before the state.

 

[Searc]

Yeah. It's not like we're England during WW2... Or the United States for that matter. I wonder what we'd all do with rationing?

I was thinking the exact same thing a couple days ago. Good god can you imagine the whining and complaining?

 

[BuckeyeBama]

I’m ready to snap. My parents live with us and are negative people. Always looking at the bad side of things. Rarely a positive comment. Ready to complain about the kids, tear them down. Before working from home I only got this after arriving home from work, and by each of them. These days I get it every.day.all.day. from both of them. It eats at your outlook at life. They refuse to change.

<<sorry for venting. I just needed to get it out. Their mentality has been draining me and is starting to transfer into communication with my coworkers and students >>

We caught a break - my wife's parents were in Cocoa Beach when this started and have stayed down there.

 

[LSUmiss]

I can’t tell if you’re angry about the extension, but I don’t see how they have any other choice. Every day is wait and see. People have been defiant since day one. That’s their business I guess.

I’m not angry b/c since I’m in orleans, mine had been extended a while now. I’m in no rush to go anywhere in public other than essentials. I am concerned that this will keep going on & on & it will effect me financially if it continues into June. But, I will continue to see close family as we have started doing. We take precautions & only see ppl we know have taken this seriously. I still like JBE & think he has done a good job. I don’t like Cantrell though-but that was before this anyway.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I’m ready to snap. My parents live with us and are negative people. Always looking at the bad side of things. Rarely a positive comment. Ready to complain about the kids, tear them down. Before working from home I only got this after arriving home from work, and by each of them. These days I get it every.day.all.day. from both of them. It eats at your outlook at life. They refuse to change.

<<sorry for venting. I just needed to get it out. Their mentality has been draining me and is starting to transfer into communication with my coworkers and students >>

It's certainly ok to vent. And having had in laws exactly like that, I can sympathize.

 

[SaintsManiac]

I’m not angry b/c since I’m in orleans, mine had been extended a while now. I’m in no rush to go anywhere in public other than essentials. I am concerned that this will keep going on & on & it will effect me financially if it continues into June. But, I will continue to see close family as we have started doing. We take precautions & only see ppl we know have taken this seriously. I still like JBE & think he has done a good job. I don’t like Cantrell though-but that was before this anyway.

Oh I’m not worried about who likes him or not. People turned this pandemic into a partisan issue and that’s what’s made this whole thing way worse to communicate about.

Hopefully we can move to phase 1 in 2 weeks. We shall see.

 

[Farro]

I was thinking the exact same thing a couple days ago. Good god can you imagine the whining and complaining?

Fear of job loss weighing on the mind can make anyone lose their positive disposition. Being cramped in an apartment for almost 2 months can certainly make anyone hit a breaking point.

Not everyone is lucky enough to be secure in their employment and live in an area with a big backyard, lakes, whatever everyone else seems to have.

If it has to be, it has to be. But I certainly don't judge anyone for complaining about it.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I was thinking the exact same thing a couple days ago. Good god can you imagine the whining and complaining?

Who cares if Hirohito takes over some insignificant Island like Australia. I want my latte!!!!!!