Hong Kong no Phooey TR (Apr 2012)! The Yee's have it....TR finish #1101, 07/09

@skierpete - HK is the same time zone as Perth (western australia) so for me in Adelaide its a -2.5 hr time diff and from the eastern states where princess is it should be a -3 hr time diff to what she is used to

PrincessinOz - where are you staying - i just booked accomodation last night for our trip - much closer in than i would have preffered. we were limited to $200Aud a night so we chose the marriott at skycity - close to airport and out let shopping!

has its own airport shuttle!

it has another free shuttle - goes to disneyland one a day in each direction, and a half hourly shuttle to and from tung chung MTR station (about a 5 to 10 min shuttle ride apparently), which connects to the Disneyland train line, as well as into central station.

ended up being 1270HKD a night and its a 5 star hotel! we were impressed!!! ( about $150AUD).
 
Get some custom clothes made? In they states you always hear people talking about their "Hong Kong Tailors". :lmao:

I'm thinking about it. Sometimes having custom clothes made in HK isn't necessarily the best thing. The trick is finding the right tailor.


That was my plan for my 4 day sojourn......
However the one I was directed to through a friend of my TA was....well....less than inspiring. The one I would trust was $$$$

It's partially a regret. I didn't managed to get something made. But that $300 (minimum) suit isn't required in my industry turns out. So I'm ok with having kept the $$$

PIO I remember you mentioning Macau. But unless you want to see a Made in China version of Vegas. There is little to see. The 'history' is mostly damaged or simply a facade :sad2:
Why I crossed it off the list...

I know I desperately needed more shopping time though. So you'll fill the time no worries :thumbup2

If you visit big budda. You can get Seattle coffee there :lmao:
The food menu at Starbucks in HK is second to none. :love:


Macau is on my list. With the extra time I have, we will have more than enough time to head there and to Shenzhen as well. I want to see the Portugeuse Fort and just check it out. At least then I can say that I've been there; rather than not knowing.

I think we'll do the big buddha from Disney/Lantau. It's not that far from there.


3 days cant help you I have never been there. Your on your own.


Technically, I'll be there with my parents, DH and DS. :laughing:


Joining in from your other TR - glad to see you have a trip going. HK seems way more exciting than a trip to the states...but maybe that's because the US is home for me. It's certainly a lot closer than coming to the US. Probably no (or small) time zone change either, which seems nice as well. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the time change for traveling to Australia. (So....If it's 10 AM in Sydney, it's 8 PM in Buffalo...but 8 PM Yesterday? :eek: :confused3)

Pretty cool that your parents are coming along - though what does DH think about that? (Disney AND In-laws...been there, done that, got the souvenir photopass. :rotfl2: )

SkierPete


It's still a 9 hour flight from Melbourne to HK, with a 3 hour time change. HK and Tokyo are the closest Disney sites to Melbourne. DLR is 14 hours away and even Aulani is going to be about 11 hours.

And yes...when you leave the US to get to Oz, you'll lose a day.

@skierpete - HK is the same time zone as Perth (western australia) so for me in Adelaide its a -2.5 hr time diff and from the eastern states where princess is it should be a -3 hr time diff to what she is used to

PrincessinOz - where are you staying - i just booked accomodation last night for our trip - much closer in than i would have preffered. we were limited to $200Aud a night so we chose the marriott at skycity - close to airport and out let shopping!

has its own airport shuttle!

it has another free shuttle - goes to disneyland one a day in each direction, and a half hourly shuttle to and from tung chung MTR station (about a 5 to 10 min shuttle ride apparently), which connects to the Disneyland train line, as well as into central station.

ended up being 1270HKD a night and its a 5 star hotel! we were impressed!!! ( about $150AUD).

I haven't actually picked out accomodation yet. I would like to spend 3 nights at HKDL and then the rest of the time in HK proper. Still haven't decided where. As we're going in March/April, there aren't any deals at the moment for accomodation. I might wait and see what happens....and in the meantime, more research! :laughing:
 
I found the outlets disappointing and being near the airport is not good for actually getting to the rest of the city. It's certainly nothing much to see there at night.
Sure the trains are easy. And yes Disneyland is close to the airport. But I wouldn't stay near the airport.

Hence thinking central or Tsim sha tsui is better...
 
”If it has got four legs, two wings and it swims!”…Prince Phillip is nearly Right!

“If it has got four legs and it is not a chair, if it has two wings and it flies but is not an aeroplane, and if it swims and is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it." Prince Phillip

That most politically correct and diplomatic of Royalty, Prince Phillip, never really suffers from foot in mouth disease….more than once a month….is my inspirational quote for this post. The quote might have been from 1986….but it shows how characterization can colour one’s perception of things.

As an Asian, I feel compelled to right some of the inaccuracies of his quote.
  1. Firstly, it’s not a Chair! Asians use STOOLS or they squat!
  2. And if he had said a KITE, that would have been more appropriate than an Aeroplane.
  3. A Submarine? Really - you’d think he’d know that it’s JUNKS that the Chinese sail!

Let’s face it…..Asians have picked up the unsavoury reputation of eating bizarre and weird foods. I guess it’s a case of “what is someone’s offal, is a Chinese delicacy”. From every possible animal on earth through to snake’s blood and monkey brains, it would seem that the question of where to eat incorporates the question of what to eat; and more pertinently….what am I eating?

Being of Asian descent myself, the question of “what am I eating?” takes on a completely different meaning when you consider that as a child, I did enjoy the occasional pig’s-brain-steamed-with-egg dish, chicken feet (seems tame!) and even the odd unrecognizable animal’s meat.

However, I have long considered myself as a Banana (yellow on the outside, white inside); and my food boundaries as an adult are much more mainstream these days.

Given how far I could have taken this, I think my food boundaries are simple. I will NOT eat:
  • Four-legged animals; domesticated nor anything I might find in a zoo! (Farmed is fine!)
  • If it slithers or is 6-legged or 8-legged, not land-based and definitely not air-bourne. (Water slithering or swimming is fine!)
  • Intestines or sweetmeats, feet, necks or any internal liquid is strictly prohibited. I’m definitely not a nose to trotter type of pig (eater)!

Well….that pretty much leaves a diverse range of food items that I will indulge in.

Of the ‘phat’ or 8 culinary traditions of China, Hong Kong food has its roots in Yue cuisine. This regional/culinary tradition covers the provinces of Hong Kong SAR and Guandong.

We are talking Cantonese cuisine here, folks. Meats such as beef, pork and chicken are the main proteins…but Cantonese food also incorporates organ meat, chicken feet, snakes and snails. Steaming and Stir Frying are the main cooking methods of this cuisine.

For flavour enhancement, Cantonese cuisine traditionally uses scallions, soy sauce, oyster sauce, rice wine, sesame oil, corn starch, vinegar, salt and sugar in their cooking. You will find the occasional use of ginger, 5-spice powder, chilli powder and star anise..but sparingly.

I expect to be enjoying a variety of deep fried dishes….although I tend to prefer the steamed (jing) or stir-fried (chaau) stuff.

Cantonese or Chinese cuisine also includes items that have been slow cooked. This is particularly true of soups…savoury and sweet. The Chinese are not known for their desserts but I have to admit that I am incredibly partial to a spare rib soup or a sweet red bean soup (hong dau shui) or a sweet potato soup (fan shu tong shui) that has been slow cooked for a while.

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Many Chinese restaurants feature live seafood tanks….where you will be able to make your selection of the fish or shellfish of your choice….only to have it cooked by the chef and brought to your table, within 20 minutes! My favourite way of eating seafood, particularly whole fish (yuu), is usually steamed (jing) with soy, ginger and scallions.

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Noodles (mihn) will be an absolute must! Stir fried or with soup….I enjoy it all. Above all else, I expect to be partaking noodles from the street vendors, preferably late at night!

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BBQ meats (char yok), usually pork, pork and more pork, with some duck (ahp) thrown in; will all be dishes I will be expecting to eat on this trip.
Traditional dishes include:

Rice Congee (chuok) – more a breakfast food for me.

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Sweet and Sour – DS loves this!

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Stir fry vegetables …

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…or vegetables blanched with then served up with oyster sauce.

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Without a doubt, the experience most associated with Chinatowns all over the world is the Dim Sum. Dim Sum literally translates to “Heart’s Delight” or to warm your heart. It refers to the experience you will enjoy where you watch servers push around carts of food in bamboo baskets still steaming from the cooking process. You wait until the server gets to your table and pick the baskets you want to eat.

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In Australia, this experience is called Yum Cha. The literal translation of this is to “drink tea”. I’ve never worked out why the Aussies have chosen to call the experience Yum Cha when the rest of the China-world calls it Dim Sum. I just live here…and I go with the flow.

I hadn’t realized it till now…but I do NOT have many pictures of the little heart’s delights in my collection of pictures. I had to swipe the above picture off the internet. This is definitely something that I will need to fix during this trip!


For those of you going and wondering what to order, here are some of my favourites (well....photos I had in my collection to date).

On this plate, you’ll find the prawn noodles (har cheong) and prawn dumplings (har gow).

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These are usually made from rice flour, with different fillings inside e.g., beef (ngau yok) or pork (yok) or vegetables (chai).

For the noodles (har fun), there will also be the option to order the BBQ pork variety (char siu cheong).


You might also find baskets with these sorts of items…steamed buns (bao or pow)..

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I like the roast pork buns (char siu bao) and my son loves the custard buns (lai wong bao)

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You can also find baos that have been fried on the carts; but I usually prefer the steamed ones.

We will also be ordering the Lotus Leaf glutinous rice (lo mai gai). These parcels are usually steamed and contain glutinous rice, egg yolk, mushroom and a protein (chicken or pork).

The carts will also come round with sweet dim sums…we normally get these towards the end of our experience and always try to fit in the custard tarts (daan tart), tofu with sugar syrup (dau fu far) and the mango pudding (mong go pud-ding).

Another foodie experience that I’m looking forward to will be the sumptuous multi-course Chinese dinners. I suspect that we might end up with at least one if not two of these experiences in our time there.

I certainly hope to come back with a wider selection of food porn during this trip. One this is for certain….I think I’m coming back with a “phat”-ter bahookie!



princess::upsidedow
 
oh dear, dont mention the aulani word - originally this hk trip was going to be an aulani trip but given we are 2 students who also work @ dominos and raise 2 kids, it just wasnt going to happen this time ( although i am tempted to save madly when i get back from HK and take the other half to aulani in 2 years time!) :confused3:rolleyes1


OH princess in oz - was jsut on that HK website u linked in - the AUD is very strong right now apparently ( averaging 8.4HKD to the aud) - makes things a little easier when everything is so cheap!

i cant wait, i have a mad case of itchy feet and disneyfever - plus it will be amanda's first time at disney park and her first time in a country that has a primary language other than english - should be fun to watch! :rotfl2::rotfl:


Adrienne.
 
Well, Hmm.. not sure what to make of all that food. Never tried any of it. So I guess I can say :eek:
 
Given how far I could have taken this, I think my food boundaries are simple. I will NOT eat:
  • Four-legged animals; domesticated nor anything I might find in a zoo! (Farmed is fine!)
  • If it slithers or is 6-legged or 8-legged, not land-based and definitely not air-bourne. (Water slithering or swimming is fine!)
  • Intestines or sweetmeats, feet, necks or any internal liquid is strictly prohibited. I’m definitely not a nose to trotter type of pig (eater)!

Well….that pretty much leaves a diverse range of food items that I will indulge in.

I'd say this pretty much sums it up for me, although at Napa Rose Andrew Sutton slipped in some sweetbreads on one of our dishes and they were actually OK.

And I love slithering swimming meats! Eel and cucumber roll, bring it on! Even Fran will eat this one!

What about brains? I used to eat what is the sushi where they bring you the shrimp raw and then the heads tempura battered and fried? i used to love that one until a friend of mine took a bite out of the head and then said, "Ooooh what is that red thing in there?" Now I have to have a lot of sake before I order it! Ama-ebi! It is so delicious, but I hate it that I have to be good and pliable before I order it now, it is so good! :goodvibes

Although I realize none of this is Chinese food, or Hong Kong, but I won't eat Shark's fin, not because of squeamish, but because of the awful harvesting practices. Fine if they would serve up the whole shark, but not that they cut off the fin just for that and let the poor animal die, what a waste anyways, I love shark!
 
I have wanted to try the red bean ice cream, but was unsure how it woikd taste. But still curious.

I'm not one to be adventurous with food. But I do love red bean.
Red bean icecream is a good introduction. The hot soup is LOVELY but the icecream will be sweeter and 'milder' usually hence introducing you to it.

I don't eat slippery and slithery things :lmao:
 
oh dear, dont mention the aulani word - originally this hk trip was going to be an aulani trip but given we are 2 students who also work @ dominos and raise 2 kids, it just wasnt going to happen this time ( although i am tempted to save madly when i get back from HK and take the other half to aulani in 2 years time!) :confused3:rolleyes1


OH princess in oz - was jsut on that HK website u linked in - the AUD is very strong right now apparently ( averaging 8.4HKD to the aud) - makes things a little easier when everything is so cheap!

i cant wait, i have a mad case of itchy feet and disneyfever - plus it will be amanda's first time at disney park and her first time in a country that has a primary language other than english - should be fun to watch! :rotfl2::rotfl:
Adrienne.


My DS will also be in a country that has a primary language other than English. Fun.to.watch is NOT exactly the phrase that comes to mind!

Phig.Chans.Hee.Cly. is probably more likely!


Well, Hmm.. not sure what to make of all that food. Never tried any of it. So I guess I can say :eek:


Next time I'm in San Francisco, you and me are going to Chinatown for Dim Sum!

No.Chans.Orf.Yew. slithering out of it! :laughing:


I love red bean :love:

Yeah. Does Red Bean love you back???




I have wanted to try the red bean ice cream, but was unsure how it woikd taste. But still curious.

I'm not one to be adventurous with food. But I do love red bean.
Red bean icecream is a good introduction. The hot soup is LOVELY but the icecream will be sweeter and 'milder' usually hence introducing you to it.

What she said. I love red bean too. The ice cream is really mild in comparison.


I'd say this pretty much sums it up for me, although at Napa Rose Andrew Sutton slipped in some sweetbreads on one of our dishes and they were actually OK.

And I love slithering swimming meats! Eel and cucumber roll, bring it on! Even Fran will eat this one!

What about brains? I used to eat what is the sushi where they bring you the shrimp raw and then the heads tempura battered and fried? i used to love that one until a friend of mine took a bite out of the head and then said, "Ooooh what is that red thing in there?" Now I have to have a lot of sake before I order it! Ama-ebi! It is so delicious, but I hate it that I have to be good and pliable before I order it now, it is so good! :goodvibes

Although I realize none of this is Chinese food, or Hong Kong, but I won't eat Shark's fin, not because of squeamish, but because of the awful harvesting practices. Fine if they would serve up the whole shark, but not that they cut off the fin just for that and let the poor animal die, what a waste anyways, I love shark!


Unagi and me.....:lovestruc :lovestruc. Too bad for the unagi, though. I am getting to love cucumber roll too.

I hate the thought of a shark fin being harvested too. We have a "shark" here that is used for fish meat, as in fish and chips. It's called Flake. There's a lot of Flake sold in fish and chips shops.
 
OT - Halloween in Oz: Trunk or Treat


Yesterday, we headed out to enjoy a little bit of Americana culture in Oz. We joined the American Women's Association Trunk or Treat fund raiser for Halloween. Aside from the entry fee, we were asked to provide 250+ pieces of individually wrapped candy (or lollies as they are called here) and decorate our car trunk (or boot as it is known here).

This represents my stash of candy:

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I'd tried to source spooky halloween related stuff...in the end it was surprisingly easier than I thought as one of the Aussie stores had decided to bring a whole set it. The trick was to get in early as most of this candy had sold out within 3 days of it hitting the shelves. How do I know? I went back to get more and there were none left!

The Skeleton Pops were a major hit with the teenage and tween set!

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My back-up to the Skeleton pops were popular...but only after the other pops disappeared.

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Marshmallow type sweets were also very popular for those with food allergies.

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And these gums just disappeared off my plates!

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Some of the candy on my plate!

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Skeleton pops looked great in this cauldren.

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And....notice the other pumpkin container. I filled that with Freddo Frog chocolates....which were the only chocolate I had on offer. Would you believe it was the LAST to be snaffled by the kids?

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The American's Women Association did a great job in yesterday's event. About the only thing wrong with it? The weather!

It was a cold and stormy afternoon....mizzle was definitely in the air.....and I figure, with the wind chill, we were down in the mid 40's yesterday.



But we were there for a party!

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There were raffles to buy...

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Games to partake in...

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The decorations ranged from kitschy to great!

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The jumping castle always had a queue....until it was time to collect candy.

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Adults and children dressed up.

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Even the occassional dog...


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We were fed pizza, oreos and there was heaps of bottled water. The pizza was delivered from a local store and the organisers catered for 3 slices per person. It was about right.


Yesterday when I was there, I had thought there were about 50 - 75 cars. Looking at these pictures, I think I underestimated the amount. I reckon 125 is probably closer to what was there. This shot was taken halfway down the 'drive'.

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This one is looking back down the opposite side of the 'drive'....

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....and around the bend closer to the entrance.

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A great time was had by all!



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But what did the trunks look like? Well....I took pictures (of course I did...why else did I go??)


This was our trunk.

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Here are some of the others....and there were heaps more that I didn't take a picture of. But this will give you an idea of the kitschy to the not so kitschy! :laughing:


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We had a great time at the event. DS had a ball....he sure came home with a stack of candy....I reckon it rivals the stack I got at MNSSHP last year!



princess::upsidedow
 
I'm not one to be adventurous with food. But I do love red bean.
Red bean icecream is a good introduction. The hot soup is LOVELY but the icecream will be sweeter and 'milder' usually hence introducing you to it.

I don't eat slippery and slithery things :lmao:

We go to the international market alot, and buy our produce, and all my Asian ingredients, and I always see tons of Red Bean items.... I will try the ice cream soon...:thumbsup2
 
The trunk or treat pictures look great....

Some people went all out in decorating. Glad you all had a great time...

Tonight I will sit on my patio with my DH and neighbors and have cocktails as we pass out candy to the children...
 
Looks like a lot of fun! We have trick or treating tonight. Due to the crazy amounts of candy 6 kids can bring home, we are trying to limit the number of houses. We are bribing them with going out to dinner after tot.

I have one question. Are there sombreros in the trunk of one of those cars? :confused3
 
How did I miss you started another PTR?!:confused3 And it's already 4 pages long!!

Looking forward to reading about your Hong Kong Disney plans and in 5months time when Disney is a distant memory for me and I am pining and wondering how I can start planning another trip I can come here and read about your trip.

BTW it's lunchtime and your Yum Cha or (should that be Dim Sum) photos are making me hungry.
 
We go to the international market alot, and buy our produce, and all my Asian ingredients, and I always see tons of Red Bean items.... I will try the ice cream soon...:thumbsup2

If you do, I'll be interested to find out what you thought of it.


The trunk or treat pictures look great....

Some people went all out in decorating. Glad you all had a great time...

Tonight I will sit on my patio with my DH and neighbors and have cocktails as we pass out candy to the children...


Were you cold or were the cocktails more than sufficient to keep you warm?
:rolleyes:


Looks like a lot of fun! We have trick or treating tonight. Due to the crazy amounts of candy 6 kids can bring home, we are trying to limit the number of houses. We are bribing them with going out to dinner after tot.

I have one question. Are there sombreros in the trunk of one of those cars? :confused3


Oh...yes...6 alphabets....I'm trying to imagine 6 times the amount of candy my DS came home with....YIKES! :scared1:


Those are sombreros in the trunk of one of those cars. We have a mexican chain restaurant, Taco Bills, in Oz. For some reason, they were there and handing out sombreros, together with 25% off vouchers, to ALL the adults and kids. I guess that car owner just put them into the open trunk; rather than carrying them around.


How did I miss you started another PTR?!:confused3 And it's already 4 pages long!!

Looking forward to reading about your Hong Kong Disney plans and in 5months time when Disney is a distant memory for me and I am pining and wondering how I can start planning another trip I can come here and read about your trip.

BTW it's lunchtime and your Yum Cha or (should that be Dim Sum) photos are making me hungry.


I had some har wonton tong mihm (prawn dumpling soup noodles) for lunch.

I've been sneaking in here and updating the PTR. I'm not even sure how it got to 4 pages already! :rolleyes1
 

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