Homeschool Chat Part III

we love, love, love Life of Fred for math! My kids (dd12 and ds10) actually have asked to do it (as in "hey mom, can we do some Life of Fred now?")... in my house, this is a miracle. DD used to not really like math, and ds does math a very different (right brained) way, and Life of Fred has allowed them both to see the lighter side of math, in small, easy to digest chunks. Our book always sits out on our table, ready to go. We also like Kahn Academy, but we only use it now to help explain things. It's too traditional (like school) for my kids - Life of Fred has breathed new life into math for our family :)

OMGoodness! That is so awesome. Every review I've found of LoF has been similar to what you said. So, if I can ask - you have a 12 and 10 year old, mine are 12 and 9 and a half :), what book did you start with? Do you just use Kahn for the instructional videos or do your kids do the work on there, too, some? My uncle, who has a doctorate in Education, has been singing the praises of Kahn. I'm afraid, like you, that it may be too "school style". Clearly, my kids don't learn "school style". I guess I would be classified as being "right brain", for the most part. My boys fit most of the criteria, too. DD is probably "whole brain", lucky her LOL although she has quite a few right brain traits. I'm happy to hear you say that LoF works for that style learning, as I'd hoped :goodvibes
 
OMGoodness! That is so awesome. Every review I've found of LoF has been similar to what you said. So, if I can ask - you have a 12 and 10 year old, mine are 12 and 9 and a half :), what book did you start with? Do you just use Kahn for the instructional videos or do your kids do the work on there, too, some? My uncle, who has a doctorate in Education, has been singing the praises of Kahn. I'm afraid, like you, that it may be too "school style". Clearly, my kids don't learn "school style". I guess I would be classified as being "right brain", for the most part. My boys fit most of the criteria, too. DD is probably "whole brain", lucky her LOL although she has quite a few right brain traits. I'm happy to hear you say that LoF works for that style learning, as I'd hoped :goodvibes

we started w/ the fractions book (we're still in it). Apparently there's a 'younger' one out now.

Some chapters ds10 zoomed ahead of dd12, and some the other way around. DS10 being a right brained learner has a very hard time with the little details of carry numbers, etc, but does really well w/ larger, more difficult concepts. DD12 is enjoying the rules of adding and multiplying fractions, whereas ds wants to rip his hair out having to do any little details. With Life of Fred, it's not too overwhelming (like you don't do 50 example problems). We started out doing the kids together with it, but stopped that pretty quickly as they both just are so different in their learning styles.

We sometimes get through a couple of chapters in one sitting, and sometimes have to put the book down and review or learn the concept (that's when we'll turn to Kahn when needed, or me just making things up for them to practice, etc). I personally LOVE Kahn and would have loved it as a kid, but my kids just aren't wired that way. I love to have everything laid out, all neat and organized, going problem to problem, chapter to chapter, and marking it all off as I get done. My ds is just all over the place with math, so I've learned to just follow his lead. He's learning though, just not in the exact order the schools would have liked. But that's one of the main reasons we started homeschooling, because of his learning style. I often have to google different ways to teach him math concepts, whereas with my dd I can just explain it the way I know it.
 
southern_redhead, be strong and know that you can do this! I think we have all been through those freak out moments we can think we cannot do this (I know I have and I have an El. Ed. degree!) The peaks more than make up for the valley times!

You mentioned HSLDA, I would do it at least for a year especially since your are pulling the kiddos out mid-year. I would want that extra comfort! It would be great piece of mind for me.

Start looking now for classes, co-ops, lessons for the kids to join. It will amaze you how much extra time you have now that you are teaching! :goodvibes
 
I have a question for my fellow homeschooling parents:

Has anyone used Exploring America by Notgrass Company? I would really love any opinions on this curriculum set.

We have been using the Mystery of History for the last 3 years but the 4th book hasn't been completed yet... so of course, I am looking for a new history curriculum. I really would like to do some form of a comprehensive US History study so if anyone has ideas - I would love to hear them.

My son is 11 and will be starting 7th and 8th grade materials in 2 months (we go year-round). He loves history and is a strong reader.
 

I have a question for my fellow homeschooling parents:

Has anyone used Exploring America by Notgrass Company? I would really love any opinions on this curriculum set.

We have been using the Mystery of History for the last 3 years but the 4th book hasn't been completed yet... so of course, I am looking for a new history curriculum. I really would like to do some form of a comprehensive US History study so if anyone has ideas - I would love to hear them.

My son is 11 and will be starting 7th and 8th grade materials in 2 months (we go year-round). He loves history and is a strong reader.

This is highly regarded on the homeschool forum I am on. When a used set of this goes for sale, it is sold in a few hours if not the hour it is listed. I never have heard anything bad about Notgrass.
 
Less than a month, now, until we come home for good. I am feeling :eek: and :scared1:......

also a kinda :yay::woohoo::cheer2:

I will be so happy to have my youngest, especially, home. We worked on a "make up" work packet last night, some of it was just ridiculous. The thing is, he CAN learn, when the material is presented in a way that fits his learning style. For example: a worksheet for math. The worksheet gave eight "practice problems", beside each of which was a little string of beads to count. The beads were divided into groups to represent the two numbers in the problem (for example 8+4 would have eight beads, a space, and 4 more beads...) Okay, that is fine. EXCEPT, all (ALL!!) eight problems had an answer of 12! The remaining 20-ish problems had NO beads (we drew them beside each problem, perhaps this was their intent....there were no directions so WHO KNOWS?! Pet peeve: worksheets with no instructions LOL) Also, out of the remaining problems, only 1 had an answer of 12. Of course, after getting 12 on the first 8 problems that were given for practice, he was sure he was counting wrong when he got a number other than 12. It was very frustrating. The concept was simple, ONE practice problem (with a set of clear instructions) would have been sufficient. ODS's teacher would have written me a snippy note that he wasn't supposed to draw beads for all of them, that was a crutch. Thankfully, YDS's teacher knows he struggles enough as it is, and doesn't make such comments. In fact, I think she's glad that he has a parent who checks on him to see how he's doing. I so hope she doesn't think we are pulling him out because of her, she has been so good to him/us.

Also, mrsbornkuntry had mentioned (in a much earlier thread) the unit study curriculum A World Of Adventure? I looked at their website and it appears to be almost what I had intended to pull together for myself. Of course, I don't have the actual material to look at, so I don't know the quality of the work. Thoughts? Anyone used it or looked at it? I am leaning toward it, mostly because it is the same timeline I had in mind for the same material I wanted to cover. Also, I think it might be easier on me, the first year anyway, to have everything in one unit (except the math, and we have Life of Fred ... ) I also liked that it offered a "young learner" packet for each unit to give my younger child materials that were more age appropriate. Has anyone used this as a combo with children in the range of the product and used the younger child's pack for a child below the target age?
 
Also, mrsbornkuntry had mentioned (in a much earlier thread) the unit study curriculum A World Of Adventure? I looked at their website and it appears to be almost what I had intended to pull together for myself. Of course, I don't have the actual material to look at, so I don't know the quality of the work. Thoughts? Anyone used it or looked at it? I am leaning toward it, mostly because it is the same timeline I had in mind for the same material I wanted to cover. Also, I think it might be easier on me, the first year anyway, to have everything in one unit (except the math, and we have Life of Fred ... ) I also liked that it offered a "young learner" packet for each unit to give my younger child materials that were more age appropriate. Has anyone used this as a combo with children in the range of the product and used the younger child's pack for a child below the target age?

I think that was me you were thinking of. I don't remember how old your kids are. Without know that here is my response. I started LA when my son was in 3rd grade. It was great compared to what we were using (a Virtual Academy), but I think he was a bit young. This year has gone much better. I've never used the supplements but I wouldn't depend on them. She just came out with the ones she has, and there's been no word on when the rest will be completed. I'd hate for you to fall in love with them (I hear they are great) and then only be able to use the first 3 units.

There is a TON of stuff in LA. We started with the second volume (A New World of Adventure) because we'd just spent over a year on the Ancients and I couldn't think of doing another day, let alone a year more. We are just over a year into using it and we are on day 125. There is a TON of stuff in LA and it's just too much to do in a year. You would really stress yourself out trying. I've never talked to anyone who's done a volume in less than a 1.5 years. Right now we do LA 3 days a week, a Homeschool Class one day a week and Friday's are our catchup day.
 
Well, today was the last day of public school for DS. We start Homeschool on Monday. Ok, now I am getting scared. Any suggestions to calm down and do a good job?
 
Well, today was the last day of public school for DS. We start Homeschool on Monday. Ok, now I am getting scared. Any suggestions to calm down and do a good job?

My suggestion is to enjoy the holidays and not start any formal schooling until January. You could do some fun stuff like learn how Christmas Traditions were started, or a study on snow, or weather in general.

It takes time to adjust from school to home. They say one week for each year they were in school. If you include preschool it was right on for us.
 
I have a question for my fellow homeschooling parents:

Has anyone used Exploring America by Notgrass Company? I would really love any opinions on this curriculum set.

My son is 11 and will be starting 7th and 8th grade materials in 2 months (we go year-round). He loves history and is a strong reader.

Exploring America is the Notgrass High School curriculum. America the Beautiful is for middle school. My dd used Exploring America for 9th and I found it to be a very well-designed and thought out program. It's quite wordy and incorporates literature like Uncle Tom's Cabin and The Scarlet Letter, which are certainly high school materials. So unless your 11-year-old is exceptionally bright and ready for higher order thinking, America the Beautiful might be a better choice. My niece is currently doing this one and LOVES it.
 
My suggestion is to enjoy the holidays and not start any formal schooling until January. You could do some fun stuff like learn how Christmas Traditions were started, or a study on snow, or weather in general.

:thumbsup2 THIS!! Take time to just breath a sigh of relief and do some holiday things. We have usually taken the whole month of December off because we tend to get so busy baking cookies, decorating, shopping, and taking short trips to WDW:laughing:
When you DO start schooling, enjoy the time you have with your DS. You will be not only be an integral part of his learning process, but at the same time, building precious memories with him!
 
Has anyone used the Prairie Home Companion for unit studies?

We were driving home from Thanksgiving last weekend and had the radio set to NPR when PHC came on. Enjoyed the show and noticed they had TS Eliot, Robert Frost and Poe poems set to Sinatra music---fun for all. It occurred to me that these could also be the perfect jumping off point for a unit study. Has anyone here tried that?
 
I think I'm getting ahead of myself, when I post this.. But I'm 30 weeks pregnant, and already considering homeschooling for when he gets old enough. I can't imagine sending my son to the schools I was brought up in, they're horrible now.
 
Has anyone used the Prairie Home Companion for unit studies?

We were driving home from Thanksgiving last weekend and had the radio set to NPR when PHC came on. Enjoyed the show and noticed they had TS Eliot, Robert Frost and Poe poems set to Sinatra music---fun for all. It occurred to me that these could also be the perfect jumping off point for a unit study. Has anyone here tried that?

I haven't, but thank you for posting that. I want to try to do unit studies, and this will be good information to have in "arsenal" :)


Ok, I need everyone to cross their fingers and think positive thoughts/pray for me - tonight I am registering with the umbrella school, and Monday I will be talking to my principal/boss about leaving. I'm EXTREMELY nervous about what attitudes I may put up with for the next two weeks. I know, in the end, it'll all "come out in the wash". I know that if they can't try to understand and be supportive that they aren't really friends, but words hurt. I can think of three that I know will be very vocal about the "mistake" I'm making.

OTOH, I am so excited :banana: and my 12 year old is excited, too. I told him a couple of weeks ago, because I wondered how he would feel about leaving school. At first, he wasn't sure, but as we talked about it he perked up. He has been looking at our Life of Fred math books and asking what other things we will do :woohoo: I hope my other two anticipate the change happily, as well. I'm going to have to make sure to find a homeschool group for activities. My youngest is a social butterfly, that will be his only concern with leaving LOL


Updated ** Well, I did it! I enrolled with the umbrella school. Now, I just have to drop the proverbial bomb tomorrow. I also discussed the change with DD. At first, she was sort of teary eyed. She was afraid she'd never see her friends again. I pointed out that we can still have play dates and sleep overs. Now she is a little happier. I need to start looking for an activity for her (she is playing basketball, but that is a six week thing...) I wish we had a good Girl Scout troop here. They start one up and it piddles out, plus the last woman that start one up was kind of a nutcase. I wouldn't have wanted DD spending much time with her.

I don't plan to start instructing until well after the holidays. I'm hoping to give the kids a month "off", with some minor requirements like reading and some fun field trips, then build up slowly to what we plan to do long term.
 
Let me give a little background first. We are a military family, and our last station was in SE Virginia. DD9 was in York County Schools, and they were fantastic. Good communication, wonderful teachers, live, dynamic classrooms. They tested her in Kindergarten and put her into the Primary Enrichment Program then. She went 1/2 day every week. At the end of 2nd grade she was retested and I was told her results were highly gifted (IQ 145 to 159 range--I wasn't given an exact number). 3rd grade was a full day program once a week where they "earned their medical degree," created a town and businesses, studied logic, and I can't remember the other quarter subject. She thrived, had lots of friends, etc. Yes, we had the occasional temper tantrum over homework, but nothing abnormal there.

We PCSed this summer and are now in Chicopee, Massachusetts. School has been a nightmare since day one. We had her removed from the first classroom she was in because, although I am sure the teaching style works with some kids, ripping up papers, throwing them at her and yelling "What is WRONG with you" doesn't work with my child. Things got better, she wasn't throwing up before school anymore, but she wasn't back to her normal self. I found out from other kids in the neighborhood that she is sitting on her bike at recess, that she is being picked on for being "weird," that she is being made fun of over what she packs in her lunch, etc. DD26 could have handled all of this--she would have won them over or bowled them over, but DD9 is being crushed. We had the Parent-teacher conference last week, and the more I think about it, the more upset I am. She has almost all 4s (As) with a smattering of 3s (Bs) but is slammed on all social skills. The teacher wants to send her to a "special program" with the guidance councilor to teach her social skills (which she had no problem with at her last school). The teacher did not have one single positive thing to say about her, and she was in the room for the meeting. She asks too many questions, she always wants to insert her opinion, she isn't interested in the same things as the other children and doesn't sit still....you know, all normal behavior for a highly gifted kid. The teacher thinks she should be tested for ADD and put on medication. When I asked about it at her old school I was told by the school psychologist, no, sorry, she is just gifted and they don't make a pill for that. She just requires differentiated learning, like every other child who thinks differently. I will not drug her so that the teacher doesn't have to deal with her mind. So...

I think I have talked my husband into homeschooling her (showing him the study on how many highly gifted kids drop out of school because of this kind of stuff helped.)

Now what do I do!?!?!:confused:

I have the school policy on being approved for homeschooling:
Prior to removing the child from public school:

The parent/guardian must submit written notification of establishment of the home-based program to the appropriate administrator before the program is established, and resubmit notification on an annual basis as long as the child or children are being educated in a home-based environment.

The parent/guardian must certify in writing the name, age, place of residence, and number of hours of attendance of each child in the program.

The Superintendent shall give the notice to produce records required by law if there is probable cause to believe the program is not in compliance with the law. Factors to be considered by the Superintendent or School Committee in deciding whether or not to approve a home education proposal may be:

The proposed curriculum and the number of hours of instruction in each of the proposed subjects.
The competency of those teaching the children,
The textbooks, workbooks and other instructional aids to be used by the children and the lesson plans and teaching manuals to be used by the parents.
Periodic standardized testing of the children to ensure educational progress and the attainment of minimum standards.

HELP!!!!

Sorry this is so long, but my heart is breaking--homework was such a chore tonight that she gave herself a nosebleed from crying--she is terrified of making any mistakes.
 
Yay! I didn't know there were homeschooling threads!

I haven't read the whole thread, but I saved it in my favorites so I can!

I am a mom to 5 kids who are homeschooled. Well, really it's mostly internet schooling, but I suplement with plenty of lessons of my own. I was going to use Sonlight curriculum this year, but the costs were adding up and we moved twice this summer. We had to move into my parents' house while our new house wasn't ready to close, so the two moves were too much for me to deal with and I decided to put the kids back into internet school. I also wanted my son to get a diploma, so it worked out well that way for our family. I decided to suplement with traditional homeschooling curriculum b/c I felt like the kids were lacking in certain areas by using an internet school. For one, my middle child was having some real spelling problems. We started doing Sequential Spelling. It has been wonderful. All 4 girls love it, and I am even impressed with how well my 6 year old is spelling, and she is in kindergarten. My son of course thinks he is too old for it. He says it's for babies, but I make him do it anyway!

I teach karate, so the kids get more than the average bricks and mortar kid as far as physicallity goes. 2 of my kids hold black belts and are working toward their adult black belts. One of them is about ready to test for her black belt, so it's an exciting time in our house! Most people tell me they couldn't tell that my kids are homeschooled b/c they are very social. I tell them that with karate and church, they have plenty of friends and outlets for socializing in positive atmospheres.

We are going to be starting sewing and cooking lessons really soon. I am pretty good at both, and want my kids (of course my son is protesting) to have all those skills. They also help me find deals as I am an avid couponer, run my business so they learn tons of math, social, and business skills.

Glad to meet all of you. It's great talking with like-minded parents who enjoy spending time with their kids. I was looking at page one of this thread when a mom was talking about some of the questions/comments us homeschooled parents will run into. One of them was that we'll hear from people that they couldn't spend that much time with their kids everyday. She said she didn't have a response to that, but I immediately thought of what I would say. I like my kids. I will only have them a short period of time from the time they are born until they decide to move out and on with their lives. I want to take advantage of spending as much time as possible with them. Otherwise, why did I want to have so many kids? High five to everyone who likes being around their kids!
 
Overwhelmed Mommy- So sorry to hear that school is crushing your daughters's spirit. I want to yell "Get her out of there!". I think homeschool is a perfect choice for gifted children. My 11 year old daughter is an advanced classical pianist, knows way too much about dogs and is currently studying the genetics of breeding, and writes and knits for fun on her down time. She is socially a little awkward because she talks so much and likes to share her knowledge. She can come across as a know it all and I'm working with her on that. I think school would have been torture for her. I think she would've been teased, bullied, not to mention bored to death. She can finish her "school" in an hour or two and then she has the rest of the day to explore her many other interests. Also, the homeschool crowd we hang out with as well as her church friends provide plenty of social practice. She is a challenge disciplining though because passion can work both ways.

Your state requirements sound a bit complex. I would recommend finding a local homeschool group that could guide you through the red tape. Good luck to you and I hope you can make it work!

(Also, be prepared for a tough transition if you bring her home. When I brought my oldest home in 4th grade it was really tough. He struggled with changing how he thought of school and accepting me as his teacher. It took a good 6 months before things started to fall in place)
 
She is socially a little awkward because she talks so much and likes to share her knowledge. She can come across as a know it all and I'm working with her on that. I think school would have been torture for her. I think she would've been teased, bullied, not to mention bored to death.

Wow, that sounds familar!! Right now, my girl is on a "poop" kick and that is one of the things the teacher complained about. She must have spent 45 min to an hour at Animal Kingdom last spring talking to one of the vets about how and why they use feces for diagnosing animals, and has done a bunch of research on it for both animals and humans on her own. The teacher thinks this is inappropriate. The teasing and bullying is not attended to by the teachers, because they don't see it--they don't supervise the lunch room or the playground, "Noon Mom" volunteers come in to do that.

She can finish her "school" in an hour or two and then she has the rest of the day to explore her many other interests.

This is one of the things I am hoping for. I think we are going to draw up a contract between us, and part of it will be there will be a certain amnt of work to be done each day. If she does it in an hour or two, great! The rest of the day is hers, if it takes her six hours, same thing.

Also, the homeschool crowd we hang out with as well as her church friends provide plenty of social practice. She is a challenge disciplining though because passion can work both ways.

I am hoping to find a good homeschool group. She does have girl scouts and dance. Church, not so much, as there really doesn't seem to be many kids in her age group unless they go to a different service than we do. Hopefully we will find out at practice for the Christmas pagent. She has always been a challenge disciplining, and this is one of the things I am really worried about with homeschooling.

Your state requirements sound a bit complex. I would recommend finding a local homeschool group that could guide you through the red tape. Good luck to you and I hope you can make it work!

Ok, looks like I have to hunt them down faster :). I know one of the dance Moms homeschools, so she should have some leads for me. I am looking at either the Moving beyond the Page or the Calvert curriculum, but I have to see what works best for starting in the middle of the year.

(Also, be prepared for a tough transition if you bring her home. When I brought my oldest home in 4th grade it was really tough. He struggled with changing how he thought of school and accepting me as his teacher. It took a good 6 months before things started to fall in place)

This is one of the things I am really worried about--school was overall a good and happy place for her in VA, unlike here. I now she still enjoys learning things, but I need to get her back to the place she believes in herself, not where she is now thinking she is stupid and ugly and isn't worth anything.


Thank you for your advice and support--I am really scared about all of this.
 
Well, I turned in my notice (and intent to homeschool) yesterday. I have signed up with the umbrella school, and they know not to request records until our last day before holiday break. So far, so good. I don't think anyone completely understands what I'm going to do. I felt it would be better not to get into details (different methods of teaching, traveling, taking ODS back to basics in math...) and just focus on "we won't be here."

Last night, I went to bed and had a panic attack .... What have I done? LOL I calmed down, but it is such a big step... My ODS has been getting more excited. He and DD decided last night that they want to study a foreign language. I don't think we are going to do it as a "course" right now, but I'm looking for some introductory things.
 
He and DD decided last night that they want to study a foreign language. I don't think we are going to do it as a "course" right now, but I'm looking for some introductory things.

Check and see if your library has Mango Languages. It's an online course used by libraries. Best part is it's free, all you need is a library card. They have dozen's of languages! My daughter used it to learn some spanish before she went on a Mission Trip to Chile last year.
 














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