Home resorts available directly thru Disney!!

[BraveLittleToaster2]

Thinking about joining DVC, but we get a discount so we need to purchase directly though Disney. Can I choose any home resort, or is there only availability on certain resorts? If so, which ones? Thanks!

 

[disneynutz]

Aulani, PVB, and CCV are currently the resorts being actively sold.

Bill

 

[_auroraborealis_]

It is unlikely the discount on sold out resorts will beat resale pricing.

 

[BraveLittleToaster2]

So buying a resale would be cheaper then directly from Disney even with 20percent off?

 

[BraveLittleToaster2]

If I understand it correctly, with resale you cannot use your points on adventure by disney trips?

 

[skippytx]

So buying a resale would be cheaper then directly from Disney even with 20percent off?

Definitely. BLT is selling for 185 direct from Disney last I checked. Resale is in the 115 to 130 range (listing prices anyway). VGF might be about even after the discount but that's the only one that would come close. Disney wants 185 a point for VGF and resale listings are in the high 140's to 150's. It's my understanding Disney will still sell older properties if you are very insistent and are willing to go on a wait list.

Poly points are being listed around 140ish give or take a bit.

If I understand it correctly, with resale you cannot use your points on adventure by disney trips?

True. You lose some 'perks' when you purchase resale. Those 'perks' have different value to different people. I personally am not interested in using my points towards any of them so they don't have value to me. If someone wanted to use their points for AbD, Disney Cruise Lines, etc that would be something to take into consideration. Some of the other perks like AP discounts can still be had by purchasing a small number of points direct which is what many people do. I'll be purchasing a resale contract in the near future (if I can find one!) but plan on adding 25 points direct from Disney.

From what I've read the point transfer value isn't all that great when using DVC points for other stuff. The consensus seems to be one is better off renting their points and using the funds from the point rental to pay cash for something like a Disney Cruise. It's an extra layer of hassle though.

 

[CaliAdventurer]

VGC would be a good direct with a discount if your rep will find you a contract.

 

[ScubaCat]

So buying a resale would be cheaper then directly from Disney even with 20percent off?

How did you get 20% off direct pricing or is it a promo? It may only apply to the 3 "live" properties currently being actively sold (mentioned above). I dont know where you get that discount from though so that's only a guess, really. Either way that's a nice discount!

 

[_auroraborealis_]

(dupe via bad connection)

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Saratoga and AKV you pay half of Disney prices in resale.

The trade value of direct tends to fall around $6-8 per point at best. Even at a discount, direct points these days have a higher cost per point than that when dues are accounted for.

It can work out for people who bought in 2005, but much less so today.

 

[chalee94]

If I understand it correctly, with resale you cannot use your points on adventure by disney trips?

before you even think about using DVC points outside of DVC resorts (including Aulani in Hawaii and also the HHI and Vero Beach resorts), make sure you look at a point chart for those trading options. the points needed are extreme high - you tend to get a better deal booking with cash and renting your points through David to get cash to pay for it.

 

[amccu18007]

Any small contract that you can get with a discount( 50 points or so) would be better than a large contract with your discount. The small contracts sell for a higher price so getting 20% off would make it closer to a wash. Poly and GF right now seem to go for the most via resale so buying those particular resorts at a discount with contracts broken into smaller 50 point increments could be good. You would still have the benefits of having a larger point contract but would be able to sell them off one at a time if they no longer worked for you in the future.

 

[amccu18007]

Also, Disney can sell you any resort. They have to "find" the points to do so. They push the 3 mentioned above as that is what is new and currently for sale. If you would rather a different resort( VGF or BCV for example) you can still get those directly but may need to be patient in waiting for those point to be found. It seems that they find them fairly quickly.

 

[Dean]

If I understand it correctly, with resale you cannot use your points on adventure by disney trips?

And you shouldn't. It's significantly cheaper to pay cash than use them in this way. Even if you could end up with free points, it's still costs roughly the cost of dues compared to using cash. Just buy less points and pay cash for DCL, ABC, etc. What's the origin of the cash discount, Cast Member Discount? If so there are other restrictions you need to consider. Just spend enough time so you're fully educated and you can make an informed decision but for most, buying resale and then later adding 25 points retail is the best choice. Once you have sufficient on property and DVC experience and knowledge the home resort and number of points questions should be fairly clear. Usually it's best to spend around 6 months actively investigating and have several on property stays with some DVC exploring as a minimum to make an informed decision. Often a DVC rental privately with some exploring with purchasing in mind is the best way to finish out the decision making. Common mistakes are overbuying in terms of home resort, underbuying or overbuying # of points. Many that are early feel they have to have the new top resort that's in active sales, cut it far too close on the points purchase or go way overboard.

 

[BraveLittleToaster2]

Yes, cast member discount. Yes, I'm just starting my research, however, we have stayed in many DVC properties. Every time we go now we stay in a 1 bedroom villa. We've been to Kidani Village, Boardwalk Villas, Wilderness lodge villas, and staying at Bay lake soon. We have enjoyed them all for different reasons. We do tend to like to switch up resorts quite a bit rather then staying at the same place every time. We usually go every 12-24 months. When our youngest is a little older, we will likely need a 2 bedroom. We always stay for 10 days when we go. Looking at the DVC website it seems I would need more then 200 points to be able to do a 2 bedroom for 10 days every other year.

I will look into resale too! Thanks!

 

[Dean]

For this situation SSR resale is the best value. You'll need to compare to the CM discount and look at the restrictions. The last I heard there were restrictions on reselling and you couldn't rent. Just compared and decide. IF you give yourself a cushion of 10=20% on the 1 BR, you should have enough for the 2 BR long term.

 

[kniquy]

I would need more then 200 points to be able to do a 2 bedroom

Probably well over 300 points for your 10 days depending on the season so a 200 point contract would work to go every other year. With your comment about trying different resorts would lead me to buying resale SSR. If you are going 12-24 months then you would likely not benefit from the AP discount. If you were going to go every 12 months then the AP discount would be a great benefit, but if you are qualifying for a CM discount -- do they also offer discounts on AP or as a CM don't you get free admission? I have no clue what benefits a CM gets that is why i am asking.

Your ideal scenario would be to buy a 175 point SSR resale for $14700 (+closing costs ~$700) and then add on a 25 point direct $3625 ($145 per point + closing) = Approx total just over $19000 for 200 points. I wonder if you could get a Cm discount on your add on purchase.

Or go direct for a new resort @ $176 -20% = $141pp $28,200 = so you could potentially save over $9000 - still get the important/usable direct discounts (dining, shopping, AP)

You also mentioned ABD -- with only a 200 point contract - even with banking and borrowing 3 years worth of points (600 points) you might be able to cover the cost of one adult for a North American trip - so that is really not a great use of your points when you consider 3 years of points gets you one person for a 7 day trip.

you do need to work the numbers. It really doesn't sound like the new resorts being sold would be worth it to you to pay a premium with being fine bouncing around and trying different resorts each trip.

 

[Dean]

Probably well over 300 points for your 10 days depending on the season so a 200 point contract would work to go every other year. With your comment about trying different resorts would lead me to buying resale SSR. If you are going 12-24 months then you would likely not benefit from the AP discount. If you were going to go every 12 months then the AP discount would be a great benefit, but if you are qualifying for a CM discount -- do they also offer discounts on AP or as a CM don't you get free admission? I have no clue what benefits a CM gets that is why i am asking.

Your ideal scenario would be to buy a 175 point SSR resale for $14700 (+closing costs ~$700) and then add on a 25 point direct $3625 ($145 per point + closing) = Approx total just over $19000 for 200 points. I wonder if you could get a Cm discount on your add on purchase.

Or go direct for a new resort @ $176 -20% = $141pp $28,200 = so you could potentially save over $9000 - still get the important/usable direct discounts (dining, shopping, AP)

You also mentioned ABD -- with only a 200 point contract - even with banking and borrowing 3 years worth of points (600 points) you might be able to cover the cost of one adult for a North American trip - so that is really not a great use of your points when you consider 3 years of points gets you one person for a 7 day trip.

you do need to work the numbers. It really doesn't sound like the new resorts being sold would be worth it to you to pay a premium with being fine bouncing around and trying different resorts each trip.

They are looking at EOY for a 2 BR down the line based on the post you quoted from. As for the number of points that's best, I didn't feel I had enough info to make a suggestion but 200 per year, 400 EOY is a reasonable round number depending on home resort and the DVC season.

 

[BraveLittleToaster2]

Probably well over 300 points for your 10 days depending on the season so a 200 point contract would work to go every other year. With your comment about trying different resorts would lead me to buying resale SSR. If you are going 12-24 months then you would likely not benefit from the AP discount. If you were going to go every 12 months then the AP discount would be a great benefit, but if you are qualifying for a CM discount -- do they also offer discounts on AP or as a CM don't you get free admission? I have no clue what benefits a CM gets that is why i am asking.

Your ideal scenario would be to buy a 175 point SSR resale for $14700 (+closing costs ~$700) and then add on a 25 point direct $3625 ($145 per point + closing) = Approx total just over $19000 for 200 points. I wonder if you could get a Cm discount on your add on purchase.

Or go direct for a new resort @ $176 -20% = $141pp $28,200 = so you could potentially save over $9000 - still get the important/usable direct discounts (dining, shopping, AP)

You also mentioned ABD -- with only a 200 point contract - even with banking and borrowing 3 years worth of points (600 points) you might be able to cover the cost of one adult for a North American trip - so that is really not a great use of your points when you consider 3 years of points gets you one person for a 7 day trip.

you do need to work the numbers. It really doesn't sound like the new resorts being sold would be worth it to you to pay a premium with being fine bouncing around and trying different resorts each trip.

Yes, I do not need an AP discount as our cast member status is a better deal.

Thanks for all your math, super helpful. We are still deciding if it's even worth it in general since our normal room discounts exceed 20percent. Though, if we ever lose our cast member status the previously purchased DVC could help us to continue going without spending tons of money.

It would most likely be every other year. So it sounds like the 200 would work well. Thanks!

 

[BraveLittleToaster2]

For this situation SSR resale is the best value. You'll need to compare to the CM discount and look at the restrictions. The last I heard there were restrictions on reselling and you couldn't rent. Just compared and decide. IF you give yourself a cushion of 10=20% on the 1 BR, you should have enough for the 2 BR long term.

I will look into the restrictions, thanks! That will be an important thing to consider.